Can Gun Nuts Please Stop Saying You Need Guns to Protect Yourself From A Potential Tyrannical Government!!!

[Red Front]

Obama is only a communist in your mind. He's a defender of capitalism, not communism. We don't bailout bankers.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

It makes you sound mentally challenged.

Having guns is not going to protect you from the police or military. With normal police equipment, SWAT teams, police tactics and fire power etc, they can easily neutralize any armed threat or movement. They wouldn't even break a sweat. Not to mention, police surveillance tactics will make it impossible for an anti-government group to organize a big enough threat to the regime. You don't have a chance. And that is only the police. Your little AR-15 isn't going to do anything to a drone, tank, apache helicopter, fighter jet or combat unit (much less special forces). There is a reason you have not seen a people's uprising to over-throw a government even in Africa in decade. And really only Sudan has been overthrown by a military coup.

No, the only reason you want certain guns (such as a AR-15) is because you like to have them.

It is true the vast majority of gun owners are responsible and good people, including AR-15 owners. But that 1% or 0.05% that are not responsible can cause havoc, as we just saw in Highland park (an event I was on my way to attend and an event to which I know many people that were directly effected).

If you want to hunt, then a single shot hunting rifle will suffice. If it is about home defense, then handguns and shotguns (which as both short-range) would be sufficient.

There are many things that can be done, such as arm teachers, have cops in schools, secure soft targets, better mental health facilities, red flag rules and immunity for snitching, involuntary institutionalization, high standards for gun ownership, higher and minimum sentences for illegal gun possession, Federal no buy lists, vicarious liability for guns for the gun owner etc., but stop with the argument that you need guns for tyrannical governments! Because it is foolish.

There should be a ban on all guns other then single shot hunting rifles, handguns and shotguns.

Now I know handguns are by far the weapon of choice in the vast number of homicides, but so called "assault rifles" (yes I know that is a term the liberals made up) it by far a more sufficient weapon to commit mass murder then a handgun, even if they are semi-automatic (vs full).

Keep sticking to these stances that turn off the moderates (e.g. ban on abortion and do nothing on guns) and then cry about how Demorats can win with gas over $5-6, out of control inflation, major blunders in foreign policy and everyone hating woke politics. If the Demorats keep the House and pick up senate seats you are going to see the most radical changes to this country that we haver ever seen.

 

[fncceo]

Yes, it raped Russia. It decimated it economically and otherwise. Then Putin applied socialist policies that saved it.

 

[Red Front]

You hate the working class. My grandfather was American Communist Party. I was deluged with propaganda. Boy was he mad when I started asking him the hard questions.

He was just like you, ignorant, hateful, and stupid.

You're the one all hot-headed, throwing the insults.

 

[westwall]

Obama is only a communist in your mind. He's a defender of capitalism, not communism.
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Obama is only a communist in your mind. He's a defender of capitalism, not communism.

Funny how multinationals did gangbusters under him, while the small corporations were driven out of business.

That is called fascism, communism light for the uninformed, not capitalism

 

[westwall]

You're the one all hot-headed, throwing the insults.

Yeah, because idiots like you are tiresome.

 

[Red Front]

You hate the working class. My grandfather was American Communist Party. I was deluged with propaganda. Boy was he mad when I started asking him the hard questions.

He was just like you, ignorant, hateful, and stupid.

How do I hate the working class?

 

[Red Front]

Yeah, because idiots like you are tiresome.

Insults are the refuge of a weak argument. It's easy to insult people when you're hiding behind a computer hundreds or thousands of miles away. Civilize yourself.

 

[westwall]

How do I hate the working class?

Yes. Communists ultimately hate everybody. They use people to accomish a goal, then get rid of them.

 

[westwall]

Insults are the refuge of a weak argument. It's easy to insult people when you're hiding behind a computer hundreds or thousands of miles away. Civilize yourself.

Nah, insults are fun. Your droning replies, and walls of text are the indicators of a weak argument.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Pati3nce

 

[Red Front]

Nah, insults are fun. Your droning replies, and walls of text are the indicators of a weak argument.

Evidence amounts to "walls of texts" to someone not committed to the truth. It's a nuisance for you to read anything.

 

[fncceo]

Launch a satellite on the way up to pay for the trip, bring back minerals for free

Satellites operate in low Earth orbit, at a cost of around $7,000 per KG to reach by rocket.

The cost of a sending a rocket to the asteroid belts is $150,000 per KG ... not including the cost of the rocket and payload, just fuel and disposables.

It's not good enough to just get there, you have to stop (with the associated fuel costs), deploy robotic drones to mine, collect and process ore, send the payload BACK to Earth orbit for $150,000 per KG ... then get it out of orbit back to Earth. Round trip time, about 36 months.

Not exactly a cost-effective way to find raw materials.

 

[Red Front]

Yes. Communists ultimately hate everybody. They use people to accomish a goal, then get rid of them.

How so? Explain.

 

[fncceo]

Yes, it raped Russia.

It was consensual ...

 

[westwall]

Evidence amounts to "walls of texts" to someone not committed to the truth. It's a nuisance for you to read anything.

No, walls of text are you cutting and pasting a load of malarkey.

 

[westwall]

How so? Explain.

Read your history. Look up "penal battalions"

 

[Red Front]

Satellites operate in low Earth orbit, at a cost of around $7,000 per KG to reach by rocket.

The cost of a sending a rocket to the asteroid belts is $150,000 per KG ... not including the cost of the rocket and payload, just fuel and disposables.

It's not good enough to just get there, you have to stop (with the associated fuel costs), deploy robotic drones to mine, collect and process ore, send the payload BACK to Earth orbit for $150,000 per KG ... then get it out of orbit back to Earth. Round trip time, about 36 months.

Not exactly a cost-effective way to find raw materials.

The US government is the issuer of the currency. It will never run out of money, so comparing our government to a private enterprise or some other organization, isn't applicable. We have a yearly GDP of 22 trillion dollars. Allowing Elon to put up a satellite network, paid for by the American people, that then is not owned by the public. Elon gets the profits, how is that good? We contract private companies to develop infrastructure and assets in space and then those companies own the infrastructure. Huh???? Why???? The American people should own the infrastructure. It should be publicly owned or nationalized. The profits should be deposited in our public treasury.

 

[Red Front]

Read your history. Look up "penal battalions"

Your silly exercise of citing supposed death tolls to invalidate socialism is just pathetic. I can just as easily do the same with capitalism. It's dumb.

 

[westwall]

The US government is the issuer of the currency. It will never run out of money, so comparing our government to a private enterprise or some other organization, isn't applicable. We have a yearly GDP of 22 trillion dollars. Allowing Elon to put up a satellite network, paid for by the American people, that then is not owned by the public. Elon gets the profits, how is that good? We contract private companies to develop infrastructure and assets in space and then those companies own the infrastructure. Huh???? Why???? The American people should own the infrastructure. It should be publicly owned or nationalized. The profits should be deposited in our public treasury.

The currency is rapidly approaching worthlessness.

Read what happens in a hyper inflationary spiral.