CBO: Stimulus saved between 5 to 25 million jobs

[Chris]

Communism failed.

Socialism actually works quite well....

Yes, Spain is at 23% unemployment and Greece is at 18%. Many of the southern European countries are at 8-10% and it is chronic.

We are choking on 9%.

Socialism just tears it up.

Denmark 6.2%
Sweden 7.5%
Norway 3.3%
Germany 6.9%

 

[Neotrotsky]

Communism failed.

Socialism actually works quite well....

Actually

the Soviet Union was a socialist state


Truth is hard for the Left
In fact, it is their worst enemy

 

[Neotrotsky]

Communism failed.

Socialism actually works quite well....

Yes, Spain is at 23% unemployment and Greece is at 18%. Many of the southern European countries are at 8-10% and it is chronic.

We are choking on 9%.

Socialism just tears it up.

Denmark 6.2%
Sweden 7.5%
Norway 3.3%
Germany 6.9%

PIGS Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain

BRUSSELS—Spain and Italy suffered debt downgrades Friday, triggering a retreat in the euro as European governments scrambled to develop a common approach to restoring confidence in the region's banks.​

Don't mention these
Funny how that works

 

[Chris]

Yes, Spain is at 23% unemployment and Greece is at 18%. Many of the southern European countries are at 8-10% and it is chronic.

We are choking on 9%.

Socialism just tears it up.

Denmark 6.2%
Sweden 7.5%
Norway 3.3%
Germany 6.9%

PIGS Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain

BRUSSELS—Spain and Italy suffered debt downgrades Friday, triggering a retreat in the euro as European governments scrambled to develop a common approach to restoring confidence in the region's banks.​

Don't mention these
Funny how that works

No need to.

Socialism works when it is done right.

Money invested in education, healthcare, technology, research, and infrastructure drives an economy.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Denmark 6.2%
Sweden 7.5%
Norway 3.3%
Germany 6.9%

PIGS Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain

BRUSSELS—Spain and Italy suffered debt downgrades Friday, triggering a retreat in the euro as European governments scrambled to develop a common approach to restoring confidence in the region's banks.​

Don't mention these
Funny how that works

No need to.

Socialism works when it is done right.

Money invested in education, healthcare, technology, research, and infrastructure drives an economy.

Too funny coming from a guy who did not know the Soviet Union was socialist


Money taken out of the economy and wastefully spent does nothing
except create debt

For example Papa Obama's Pork Bill
another failed Papa Obama pet project that did not live up to expectations

$250,000 per job created (excluding the interest expense) and $312,500 per union job, er job created
(so that's how much it cost to purchase votes today)
What a bargain - what fine example of "Keynesian efficiency"
What is the avg wage in the US around $42,000 ?

I can see it now- the new liberal cry!
Give us 5 times the cost of the avg job and we can make 1

To be fair, it is better than his "green job" cost
With $17.2 billion spent on these programs, the cost per actual job created, so far 3545 jobs, comes to $4.853 million per job
(not counting the interest)

Notice Even with Papa Obama’s initial false promise of 65,000 jobs created that would still come to $593,846 per job

Really, only left wing apologists for Papa Obama could take this as a positive

 

[Listening]

Communism failed.

Socialism actually works quite well....

Yes, Spain is at 23% unemployment and Greece is at 18%. Many of the southern European countries are at 8-10% and it is chronic.

We are choking on 9%.

Socialism just tears it up.

Denmark 6.2%
Sweden 7.5%
Norway 3.3%
Germany 6.9%

Three of the four are upper European countries where labor unions are not as strong. The unemployment rate of these countries is pretty consistent. And if 7.5 is "done right", I am ROTF.

 

[Listening]

Denmark 6.2%
Sweden 7.5%
Norway 3.3%
Germany 6.9%

PIGS Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain

BRUSSELS—Spain and Italy suffered debt downgrades Friday, triggering a retreat in the euro as European governments scrambled to develop a common approach to restoring confidence in the region's banks.​

Don't mention these
Funny how that works

No need to.

Socialism works when it is done right.

Money invested in education, healthcare, technology, research, and infrastructure drives an economy.

Socialism does not have a lock (nor does it consistently) invest in anything.

But, it is very clear that capatilism when "done right" will kick the ass of socialism "done right" every day of the week.

I noticed you ran right past a rather good post that explained all that to you. Ho Hum.

 

[Neotrotsky]

PIGS Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain

BRUSSELS—Spain and Italy suffered debt downgrades Friday, triggering a retreat in the euro as European governments scrambled to develop a common approach to restoring confidence in the region's banks.​

Don't mention these
Funny how that works

No need to.

Socialism works when it is done right.

Money invested in education, healthcare, technology, research, and infrastructure drives an economy.

Socialism does not have a lock (nor does it consistently) invest in anything.

But, it is very clear that capatilism when "done right" will kick the ass of socialism "done right" every day of the week.

I noticed you ran right past a rather good post that explained all that to you. Ho Hum.

Well
it is not like he knows what he is talking about
He did not know the Soviet Union was socialist

 

[Listening]

Don't mention these
Funny how that works

Of course not.

Octocrissy is a wanna be scientist (those smart people who liver somewhere in the matrix).

Why would anyone screw up their imaginary world with real facts (you know those things the right is accused of ignoring).

Like the stimulus failed.

Look at the top three...Norway, Denmark, Sweden. They have natural resources out the wazoo and they have a combined population the size of Florida. It would be hard not to do well in that kind of country.

 

[Sundial]

A suggestion for you and all of the other socialists on here. If you don't like it here MOVE!
Move to one of those socialist utopias and get back to us in 5 years on how green the grass is on the other side of the fence.
One thing is for sure, you will not have your desired socialist system here. That I can guarantee you would never come about. Not without a lot of bloodshed.
When government attempts to change the rules of the game to satisfy their own agenda, the net result is anger then conflict.
Don't think you can walk into my house or have your operatives do it for you and take what is mine. I will do what I see fit to stop that from happening. If a person becomes prone and assumes room temperature, not my problem.
OK Chris, come get ya some.

It's my country, asshat.
If you don't like democracy, get the fuck out.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Don't mention these
Funny how that works

Of course not.

Octocrissy is a wanna be scientist (those smart people who liver somewhere in the matrix).

Why would anyone screw up their imaginary world with real facts (you know those things the right is accused of ignoring).

Like the stimulus failed.

He is an apologist for Papa Obama

 

[Listening]

Well
it is not like he knows what he is talking about
He did not know the Soviet Union was socialist

Careful,

He'll ink off and post another one of those stupid graphs.

 

[Sundial]

Money taken out of the economy and wastefully spent does nothing
except create debt

How does money get "taken out of the economy," according to you?

 

[Listening]

He is an apologist for Papa Obama

Well, the stimulus did create 5 to 25 million jobs.

Oh wait...it saved that many. Until it ran out.

I noticed that filings for unemployment are up.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

It definitely saved my job.

And I don't work for the government.

You do know that half the stimulus was tax cuts, right?

how did it save your job, exactly?

The first time home buyers tax incentive.

It saved the real estate industry.

Just the auto industry was more than a million jobs.

Funny how the GObP/Repubs were all kinds of critical right up until it was time to take credit. Then, there they'd be, holding a shovel or a big pair of scissors to cut that ribbon and get their pictures taken.

Yes it was successful but it wasn't big enough. Neither was the second one. And, yes, it was tax cuts which the pub/bag voter took but won't acknowledge.

Difference between this time and last is that President Obama saved the world market from collapse the first time. This time, the world collapse could take us with it.

Won't the GObP/Repubs be thrilled. They'll be able to keep right on lying and hang it Obama. The 99% will be hurt bad but that's not their problem because their owned by the 1%.

 

[Listening]

It's my country, asshat.
If you don't like democracy, get the fuck out.

Would that be a democratic republic

or a social democracy ?

 

[Neotrotsky]

Money taken out of the economy and wastefully spent does nothing
except create debt

How does money get "taken out of the economy," according to you?

As the debt is paid

where does the money go to ?

Consuming today, one has to give up future consuming
We can only "kick this can" down the road for so long
We have already spent our children's, grandchildren and great grandchildren's future
How many generations should we go ?


Gov't creates no wealth
it only moves money around

Granted, it could cause increases in one area over another
but it is at the lost of some other entity

 

[Listening]

This time, the world collapse could take us with it.

Let's hope it does.

Becaues then, everyone living off the government is going to find out what it means to work.

 

[Neotrotsky]

how did it save your job, exactly?

The first time home buyers tax incentive.

It saved the real estate industry.

Just the auto industry was more than a million jobs.

Funny how the GObP/Repubs were all kinds of critical right up until it was time to take credit. Then, there they'd be, holding a shovel or a big pair of scissors to cut that ribbon and get their pictures taken.

Yes it was successful but it wasn't big enough. Neither was the second one. And, yes, it was tax cuts which the pub/bag voter took but won't acknowledge.

Difference between this time and last is that President Obama saved the world market from collapse the first time. This time, the world collapse could take us with it.

Won't the GObP/Repubs be thrilled. They'll be able to keep right on lying and hang it Obama. The 99% will be hurt bad but that's not their problem because their owned by the 1%.

CNN: Goldman Sachs was top Obama donor


Truth is hard for the left

 

[thereisnospoon]

Communism failed.

Socialism actually works quite well....

Yes, Spain is at 23% unemployment and Greece is at 18%. Many of the southern European countries are at 8-10% and it is chronic.

We are choking on 9%.

Socialism just tears it up.

Denmark 6.2%
Sweden 7.5%
Norway 3.3%
Germany 6.9%

Germany is hanging on by a thread AND that country's government refuses to splurge on the other EU partner's problems
Denmark, Sweden and Norway's populations don't equal California's.
Now, if these nations are so perfect, go ahead and pack your shit and go. Cuz your socialist utopia isn't going to happen here.
BTW, you have been told numerous times to post links to any stats or statements made.
Without links, you stats mean precisely...dick.