David Hogg's Handlers Have Trained Him Well

The false promise that young Hogg offers is that more gun legislation will stop another school shooting from happening... Just like making gun free zones stopped the shootings.
That's your strawman. In reality strictly regulating handguns and military style semi automatic rifles will reduce the severity if not the rate of school shootings.
It won't, but you go ahead and try to sell that.

Why and how in the world would anyone think that. Have they carried an AR 15 style weapon? Very hard to conceal and they fire the same rounds as a pistol. Much easier to carry a couple of semi auto handguns and get roughly the same results.

Fact is, in close quarters, the handgun would likely do as much, or more damage than the rifle.
 
How can a kid like this get you so upset? He isn't influencing a single person.
He isn’t? He and his schoolmates were instrumental in getting Florida SB 7026 passed.

which will likely save Zero life's. A common sense set of car regulations (see post 154) would save more life's in a few weeks, then that law will save in a hundred years.

but that would make sense and satisfy the lefts logic on the subject.
Nope. Had that law already been on the books, Nikolas Cruz would not have been able to so easily purchase the weapons he used to shoot dozens of people.
 
How can a kid like this get you so upset? He isn't influencing a single person.
He isn’t? He and his schoolmates were instrumental in getting Florida SB 7026 passed.

which will likely save Zero life's. A common sense set of car regulations (see post 154) would save more life's in a few weeks, then that law will save in a hundred years.

but that would make sense and satisfy the lefts logic on the subject.
Nope. Had that law already been on the books, Nikolas Cruz would not have been able to so easily purchase the weapons he used to shoot dozens of people.

He was not supposed to have been able to purchase a gun in the first place.

Commentary: Background Checks Alone Can’t Stop a Mass Shooter—But This Process Could

In this instance, Nikolas Cruz—who the Broward County Sheriff’s Office says confessedto the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School—passed a background check when he purchased his weapon from a gun store. That check would have been a simple, two-minute process in which the dealer placed a call to the FBI, which would have looked at whether Cruz had criminal background or mental health issues on record. Since nothing showed up, the sale went through.


Cruz had a history of troubling behavior—including disputes with neighbors, picking fights with other kids, and animal abuse—that frequently led to the police being called. Yet none of this showed up on his criminal record; a rap sheet is only the tip of the iceberg in terms of the crimes an individual has been involved with.

What makes you think that non reporting will stop with another law? What makes you think that a monster won't simply steal a gun, or buy one from a street thug?

Nope, when you give a bullied child medication that turns them into monsters, pass all the damn laws you want, the monster will win.
 
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The false promise that young Hogg offers is that more gun legislation will stop another school shooting from happening... Just like making gun free zones stopped the shootings.

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Your opinion has been duly noted and rejected by all but the most rabid gun nuts, like yourself.

Bullshit!

Most Americans are against gun-confiscation.....and that is the end game of gun-grabbers. Gun legislation does nothing to prevent gun violence.


Has anyone said a thing about gun confiscation other than the NRA? They scare you to keep the money coming.

Alot of people have mentioned gun-confiscation.
Former Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens was pretty clear about it. And it's not a big secret.


More proof of my claim. Of the thousands of links to his recent remark, can you find a single one, other than a right wing gun nut source, that claims his statement was about wholesale gun confiscation?
 
How can a kid like this get you so upset? He isn't influencing a single person.
He isn’t? He and his schoolmates were instrumental in getting Florida SB 7026 passed.

which will likely save Zero life's. A common sense set of car regulations (see post 154) would save more life's in a few weeks, then that law will save in a hundred years.

but that would make sense and satisfy the lefts logic on the subject.
Nope. Had that law already been on the books, Nikolas Cruz would not have been able to so easily purchase the weapons he used to shoot dozens of people.

He was not supposed to have been able to purchase a gun in the first place.

Commentary: Background Checks Alone Can’t Stop a Mass Shooter—But This Process Could

In this instance, Nikolas Cruz—who the Broward County Sheriff’s Office says confessedto the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School—passed a background check when he purchased his weapon from a gun store. That check would have been a simple, two-minute process in which the dealer placed a call to the FBI, which would have looked at whether Cruz had criminal background or mental health issues on record. Since nothing showed up, the sale went through.


Cruz had a history of troubling behavior—including disputes with neighbors, picking fights with other kids, and animal abuse—that frequently led to the police being called. Yet none of this showed up on his criminal record; a rap sheet is only the tip of the iceberg in terms of the crimes an individual has been involved with.

What makes you think that non reporting will stop with another law? What makes you think that a monster won't simply steal a gun, or buy one from a street thug?

Nope, when you give a bullied child medication that turns them into monsters, pass all the damn laws you want, the monster will win.
He would not have been able to easily obtain those weapons. What part of that don’t you understand?
 
How can a kid like this get you so upset? He isn't influencing a single person.
He isn’t? He and his schoolmates were instrumental in getting Florida SB 7026 passed.

which will likely save Zero life's. A common sense set of car regulations (see post 154) would save more life's in a few weeks, then that law will save in a hundred years.

but that would make sense and satisfy the lefts logic on the subject.
Nope. Had that law already been on the books, Nikolas Cruz would not have been able to so easily purchase the weapons he used to shoot dozens of people.

He was not supposed to have been able to purchase a gun in the first place.

Commentary: Background Checks Alone Can’t Stop a Mass Shooter—But This Process Could

In this instance, Nikolas Cruz—who the Broward County Sheriff’s Office says confessedto the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School—passed a background check when he purchased his weapon from a gun store. That check would have been a simple, two-minute process in which the dealer placed a call to the FBI, which would have looked at whether Cruz had criminal background or mental health issues on record. Since nothing showed up, the sale went through.


Cruz had a history of troubling behavior—including disputes with neighbors, picking fights with other kids, and animal abuse—that frequently led to the police being called. Yet none of this showed up on his criminal record; a rap sheet is only the tip of the iceberg in terms of the crimes an individual has been involved with.

What makes you think that non reporting will stop with another law? What makes you think that a monster won't simply steal a gun, or buy one from a street thug?

Nope, when you give a bullied child medication that turns them into monsters, pass all the damn laws you want, the monster will win.
He would not have been able to easily obtain those weapons. What part of that don’t you understand?

God, trying to teach the dense is like, well, trying to teach the dense!

This young man had endured bullying for many years. A quote from one of his classmates:

"
Marolo Alvarez, an 11th grade student at Parkland, remembers students taunting Nikolas Cruz.

Speaking to reporters at a vigil last month for the shooting victims and reported in the TC Palm of the USA Today network, he said he wished he had said something earlier.

I could have said something to administrators, that ‘Hey this kid gets bullied a lot, please help him, please reach out to him.’ I kind of regret not doing that,” said Mr. Alvarez."

He was also likely on an anti-depressant or prescription for ADHD, that is linked to nearly every school shooting since these drugs became available (Interesting not is that it was nearly the same time that these shootings started)

From: Antidepressants Are a Prescription for Mass Shootings – Citizens Commission on Human Rights, CCHR

"Psychiatrists generally will tell you that these people were mentally ill and they weren’t treated in time or didn’t get enough help to prevent the tragedy. However, Dr. Peter Breggin, who is a psychiatrist, stated that depression rarely leads to violence and that it’s only since the SSRI’s came on the market that such mass shootings have taken place.

In a study of thirty-one drugs that are disproportionately linked to reports of violence toward others, five of the top ten are antidepressants. These are Prozac, Paxil, Luvox, Effexor and Pristiq. Two other drugs that are for treating ADHD are also in the top ten which means these are being given to children who could then become violent. One could conclude from this study alone that antidepressants cause both suicidal thoughts and violent behavior. This is a prescription for mass shootings.

No one can talk their way out of explaining how a person who is previously non-violent and given antidepressants suddenly becomes violent or suicidal. There are multiple cases of children who have committed suicide days after starting to take an antidepressant. In a YouTube video, various parents tell their story about what the antidepressants did to their kids
."

Do you, in all seriousness, think that a kid, that has been relentlessly bullied for years, who thinks that it will never end and he is destined to endure it forever, and one who has also had his developing brain dosed with the drugs outlined above, if he can't buy a gun, steal one? Or build a pressure cooker bomb, or simply find a 1 ton truck and likely kill even more?

Make some sense, OK?
 
Your dementia is noted, but in reality, he was in the building next to building #12
He wasn't a survivor.

I wonder if he was one of those that bullied the shooter. I hear one or two of the leaders did, although I can't confirm that.
Of course you can’t.

And you have proof they didn't and can supply that link. From and interview with one of his classmates:

"Marolo Alvarez, an 11th grade student at Parkland, remembers students taunting Nikolas Cruz.

Speaking to reporters at a vigil last month for the shooting victims and reported in the TC Palm of the USA Today network, he said he wished he had said something earlier.

I could have said something to administrators, that ‘Hey this kid gets bullied a lot, please help him, please reach out to him.’ I kind of regret not doing that,” said Mr. Alvarez."

It appears many did.
 
He isn’t? He and his schoolmates were instrumental in getting Florida SB 7026 passed.

which will likely save Zero life's. A common sense set of car regulations (see post 154) would save more life's in a few weeks, then that law will save in a hundred years.

but that would make sense and satisfy the lefts logic on the subject.
Nope. Had that law already been on the books, Nikolas Cruz would not have been able to so easily purchase the weapons he used to shoot dozens of people.

He was not supposed to have been able to purchase a gun in the first place.

Commentary: Background Checks Alone Can’t Stop a Mass Shooter—But This Process Could

In this instance, Nikolas Cruz—who the Broward County Sheriff’s Office says confessedto the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School—passed a background check when he purchased his weapon from a gun store. That check would have been a simple, two-minute process in which the dealer placed a call to the FBI, which would have looked at whether Cruz had criminal background or mental health issues on record. Since nothing showed up, the sale went through.


Cruz had a history of troubling behavior—including disputes with neighbors, picking fights with other kids, and animal abuse—that frequently led to the police being called. Yet none of this showed up on his criminal record; a rap sheet is only the tip of the iceberg in terms of the crimes an individual has been involved with.

What makes you think that non reporting will stop with another law? What makes you think that a monster won't simply steal a gun, or buy one from a street thug?

Nope, when you give a bullied child medication that turns them into monsters, pass all the damn laws you want, the monster will win.
He would not have been able to easily obtain those weapons. What part of that don’t you understand?

God, trying to teach the dense is like, well, trying to teach the dense!

This young man had endured bullying for many years. A quote from one of his classmates:

"
Marolo Alvarez, an 11th grade student at Parkland, remembers students taunting Nikolas Cruz.

Speaking to reporters at a vigil last month for the shooting victims and reported in the TC Palm of the USA Today network, he said he wished he had said something earlier.

I could have said something to administrators, that ‘Hey this kid gets bullied a lot, please help him, please reach out to him.’ I kind of regret not doing that,” said Mr. Alvarez."

He was also likely on an anti-depressant or prescription for ADHD, that is linked to nearly every school shooting since these drugs became available (Interesting not is that it was nearly the same time that these shootings started)

From: Antidepressants Are a Prescription for Mass Shootings – Citizens Commission on Human Rights, CCHR

"Psychiatrists generally will tell you that these people were mentally ill and they weren’t treated in time or didn’t get enough help to prevent the tragedy. However, Dr. Peter Breggin, who is a psychiatrist, stated that depression rarely leads to violence and that it’s only since the SSRI’s came on the market that such mass shootings have taken place.

In a study of thirty-one drugs that are disproportionately linked to reports of violence toward others, five of the top ten are antidepressants. These are Prozac, Paxil, Luvox, Effexor and Pristiq. Two other drugs that are for treating ADHD are also in the top ten which means these are being given to children who could then become violent. One could conclude from this study alone that antidepressants cause both suicidal thoughts and violent behavior. This is a prescription for mass shootings.

No one can talk their way out of explaining how a person who is previously non-violent and given antidepressants suddenly becomes violent or suicidal. There are multiple cases of children who have committed suicide days after starting to take an antidepressant. In a YouTube video, various parents tell their story about what the antidepressants did to their kids
."

Do you, in all seriousness, think that a kid, that has been relentlessly bullied for years, who thinks that it will never end and he is destined to endure it forever, and one who has also had his developing brain dosed with the drugs outlined above, if he can't buy a gun, steal one? Or build a pressure cooker bomb, or simply find a 1 ton truck and likely kill even more?

Make some sense, OK?
And at 19, he still would not have been able to easily obtain the weapons he used to shoot dozens of people in 6 minutes had the legal age have been 21.
 
Your dementia is noted, but in reality, he was in the building next to building #12
He wasn't a survivor.

I wonder if he was one of those that bullied the shooter. I hear one or two of the leaders did, although I can't confirm that.
Of course you can’t.

And you have proof they didn't and can supply that link. From and interview with one of his classmates:

"Marolo Alvarez, an 11th grade student at Parkland, remembers students taunting Nikolas Cruz.

Speaking to reporters at a vigil last month for the shooting victims and reported in the TC Palm of the USA Today network, he said he wished he had said something earlier.

I could have said something to administrators, that ‘Hey this kid gets bullied a lot, please help him, please reach out to him.’ I kind of regret not doing that,” said Mr. Alvarez."

It appears many did.
Who's Marolo Alvarez?
 
Your dementia is noted, but in reality, he was in the building next to building #12
He wasn't a survivor.

I wonder if he was one of those that bullied the shooter. I hear one or two of the leaders did, although I can't confirm that.
Of course you can’t.

And you have proof they didn't and can supply that link. From and interview with one of his classmates:

"Marolo Alvarez, an 11th grade student at Parkland, remembers students taunting Nikolas Cruz.

Speaking to reporters at a vigil last month for the shooting victims and reported in the TC Palm of the USA Today network, he said he wished he had said something earlier.

I could have said something to administrators, that ‘Hey this kid gets bullied a lot, please help him, please reach out to him.’ I kind of regret not doing that,” said Mr. Alvarez."

It appears many did.
Who's Marolo Alvarez?

To longtime friend, school shooter Nikolas Cruz was lonely, volatile, ostracized

A parkland 11th grader.
 
which will likely save Zero life's. A common sense set of car regulations (see post 154) would save more life's in a few weeks, then that law will save in a hundred years.

but that would make sense and satisfy the lefts logic on the subject.
Nope. Had that law already been on the books, Nikolas Cruz would not have been able to so easily purchase the weapons he used to shoot dozens of people.

He was not supposed to have been able to purchase a gun in the first place.

Commentary: Background Checks Alone Can’t Stop a Mass Shooter—But This Process Could

In this instance, Nikolas Cruz—who the Broward County Sheriff’s Office says confessedto the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School—passed a background check when he purchased his weapon from a gun store. That check would have been a simple, two-minute process in which the dealer placed a call to the FBI, which would have looked at whether Cruz had criminal background or mental health issues on record. Since nothing showed up, the sale went through.


Cruz had a history of troubling behavior—including disputes with neighbors, picking fights with other kids, and animal abuse—that frequently led to the police being called. Yet none of this showed up on his criminal record; a rap sheet is only the tip of the iceberg in terms of the crimes an individual has been involved with.

What makes you think that non reporting will stop with another law? What makes you think that a monster won't simply steal a gun, or buy one from a street thug?

Nope, when you give a bullied child medication that turns them into monsters, pass all the damn laws you want, the monster will win.
He would not have been able to easily obtain those weapons. What part of that don’t you understand?

God, trying to teach the dense is like, well, trying to teach the dense!

This young man had endured bullying for many years. A quote from one of his classmates:

"
Marolo Alvarez, an 11th grade student at Parkland, remembers students taunting Nikolas Cruz.

Speaking to reporters at a vigil last month for the shooting victims and reported in the TC Palm of the USA Today network, he said he wished he had said something earlier.

I could have said something to administrators, that ‘Hey this kid gets bullied a lot, please help him, please reach out to him.’ I kind of regret not doing that,” said Mr. Alvarez."

He was also likely on an anti-depressant or prescription for ADHD, that is linked to nearly every school shooting since these drugs became available (Interesting not is that it was nearly the same time that these shootings started)

From: Antidepressants Are a Prescription for Mass Shootings – Citizens Commission on Human Rights, CCHR

"Psychiatrists generally will tell you that these people were mentally ill and they weren’t treated in time or didn’t get enough help to prevent the tragedy. However, Dr. Peter Breggin, who is a psychiatrist, stated that depression rarely leads to violence and that it’s only since the SSRI’s came on the market that such mass shootings have taken place.

In a study of thirty-one drugs that are disproportionately linked to reports of violence toward others, five of the top ten are antidepressants. These are Prozac, Paxil, Luvox, Effexor and Pristiq. Two other drugs that are for treating ADHD are also in the top ten which means these are being given to children who could then become violent. One could conclude from this study alone that antidepressants cause both suicidal thoughts and violent behavior. This is a prescription for mass shootings.

No one can talk their way out of explaining how a person who is previously non-violent and given antidepressants suddenly becomes violent or suicidal. There are multiple cases of children who have committed suicide days after starting to take an antidepressant. In a YouTube video, various parents tell their story about what the antidepressants did to their kids
."

Do you, in all seriousness, think that a kid, that has been relentlessly bullied for years, who thinks that it will never end and he is destined to endure it forever, and one who has also had his developing brain dosed with the drugs outlined above, if he can't buy a gun, steal one? Or build a pressure cooker bomb, or simply find a 1 ton truck and likely kill even more?

Make some sense, OK?
And at 19, he still would not have been able to easily obtain the weapons he used to shoot dozens of people in 6 minutes had the legal age have been 21.

Yet, as pointed out already, a gun was not his only, nor probably his most deadly option.
 
He wasn't a survivor.

I wonder if he was one of those that bullied the shooter. I hear one or two of the leaders did, although I can't confirm that.
Of course you can’t.

And you have proof they didn't and can supply that link. From and interview with one of his classmates:

"Marolo Alvarez, an 11th grade student at Parkland, remembers students taunting Nikolas Cruz.

Speaking to reporters at a vigil last month for the shooting victims and reported in the TC Palm of the USA Today network, he said he wished he had said something earlier.

I could have said something to administrators, that ‘Hey this kid gets bullied a lot, please help him, please reach out to him.’ I kind of regret not doing that,” said Mr. Alvarez."

It appears many did.
Who's Marolo Alvarez?

To longtime friend, school shooter Nikolas Cruz was lonely, volatile, ostracized

A parkland 11th grader.
So Marolo Alvarez is not one of the "leaders." Thanks for playin'. :thup:
 
Nope. Had that law already been on the books, Nikolas Cruz would not have been able to so easily purchase the weapons he used to shoot dozens of people.

He was not supposed to have been able to purchase a gun in the first place.

Commentary: Background Checks Alone Can’t Stop a Mass Shooter—But This Process Could

In this instance, Nikolas Cruz—who the Broward County Sheriff’s Office says confessedto the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School—passed a background check when he purchased his weapon from a gun store. That check would have been a simple, two-minute process in which the dealer placed a call to the FBI, which would have looked at whether Cruz had criminal background or mental health issues on record. Since nothing showed up, the sale went through.


Cruz had a history of troubling behavior—including disputes with neighbors, picking fights with other kids, and animal abuse—that frequently led to the police being called. Yet none of this showed up on his criminal record; a rap sheet is only the tip of the iceberg in terms of the crimes an individual has been involved with.

What makes you think that non reporting will stop with another law? What makes you think that a monster won't simply steal a gun, or buy one from a street thug?

Nope, when you give a bullied child medication that turns them into monsters, pass all the damn laws you want, the monster will win.
He would not have been able to easily obtain those weapons. What part of that don’t you understand?

God, trying to teach the dense is like, well, trying to teach the dense!

This young man had endured bullying for many years. A quote from one of his classmates:

"
Marolo Alvarez, an 11th grade student at Parkland, remembers students taunting Nikolas Cruz.

Speaking to reporters at a vigil last month for the shooting victims and reported in the TC Palm of the USA Today network, he said he wished he had said something earlier.

I could have said something to administrators, that ‘Hey this kid gets bullied a lot, please help him, please reach out to him.’ I kind of regret not doing that,” said Mr. Alvarez."

He was also likely on an anti-depressant or prescription for ADHD, that is linked to nearly every school shooting since these drugs became available (Interesting not is that it was nearly the same time that these shootings started)

From: Antidepressants Are a Prescription for Mass Shootings – Citizens Commission on Human Rights, CCHR

"Psychiatrists generally will tell you that these people were mentally ill and they weren’t treated in time or didn’t get enough help to prevent the tragedy. However, Dr. Peter Breggin, who is a psychiatrist, stated that depression rarely leads to violence and that it’s only since the SSRI’s came on the market that such mass shootings have taken place.

In a study of thirty-one drugs that are disproportionately linked to reports of violence toward others, five of the top ten are antidepressants. These are Prozac, Paxil, Luvox, Effexor and Pristiq. Two other drugs that are for treating ADHD are also in the top ten which means these are being given to children who could then become violent. One could conclude from this study alone that antidepressants cause both suicidal thoughts and violent behavior. This is a prescription for mass shootings.

No one can talk their way out of explaining how a person who is previously non-violent and given antidepressants suddenly becomes violent or suicidal. There are multiple cases of children who have committed suicide days after starting to take an antidepressant. In a YouTube video, various parents tell their story about what the antidepressants did to their kids
."

Do you, in all seriousness, think that a kid, that has been relentlessly bullied for years, who thinks that it will never end and he is destined to endure it forever, and one who has also had his developing brain dosed with the drugs outlined above, if he can't buy a gun, steal one? Or build a pressure cooker bomb, or simply find a 1 ton truck and likely kill even more?

Make some sense, OK?
And at 19, he still would not have been able to easily obtain the weapons he used to shoot dozens of people in 6 minutes had the legal age have been 21.

Yet, as pointed out already, a gun was not his only, nor probably his most deadly option.
It's what he chose and had easy access to.
 
He was not supposed to have been able to purchase a gun in the first place.

Commentary: Background Checks Alone Can’t Stop a Mass Shooter—But This Process Could

What makes you think that non reporting will stop with another law? What makes you think that a monster won't simply steal a gun, or buy one from a street thug?

Nope, when you give a bullied child medication that turns them into monsters, pass all the damn laws you want, the monster will win.
He would not have been able to easily obtain those weapons. What part of that don’t you understand?

God, trying to teach the dense is like, well, trying to teach the dense!

This young man had endured bullying for many years. A quote from one of his classmates:

"
Marolo Alvarez, an 11th grade student at Parkland, remembers students taunting Nikolas Cruz.

Speaking to reporters at a vigil last month for the shooting victims and reported in the TC Palm of the USA Today network, he said he wished he had said something earlier.

I could have said something to administrators, that ‘Hey this kid gets bullied a lot, please help him, please reach out to him.’ I kind of regret not doing that,” said Mr. Alvarez."

He was also likely on an anti-depressant or prescription for ADHD, that is linked to nearly every school shooting since these drugs became available (Interesting not is that it was nearly the same time that these shootings started)

From: Antidepressants Are a Prescription for Mass Shootings – Citizens Commission on Human Rights, CCHR

"Psychiatrists generally will tell you that these people were mentally ill and they weren’t treated in time or didn’t get enough help to prevent the tragedy. However, Dr. Peter Breggin, who is a psychiatrist, stated that depression rarely leads to violence and that it’s only since the SSRI’s came on the market that such mass shootings have taken place.

In a study of thirty-one drugs that are disproportionately linked to reports of violence toward others, five of the top ten are antidepressants. These are Prozac, Paxil, Luvox, Effexor and Pristiq. Two other drugs that are for treating ADHD are also in the top ten which means these are being given to children who could then become violent. One could conclude from this study alone that antidepressants cause both suicidal thoughts and violent behavior. This is a prescription for mass shootings.

No one can talk their way out of explaining how a person who is previously non-violent and given antidepressants suddenly becomes violent or suicidal. There are multiple cases of children who have committed suicide days after starting to take an antidepressant. In a YouTube video, various parents tell their story about what the antidepressants did to their kids
."

Do you, in all seriousness, think that a kid, that has been relentlessly bullied for years, who thinks that it will never end and he is destined to endure it forever, and one who has also had his developing brain dosed with the drugs outlined above, if he can't buy a gun, steal one? Or build a pressure cooker bomb, or simply find a 1 ton truck and likely kill even more?

Make some sense, OK?
And at 19, he still would not have been able to easily obtain the weapons he used to shoot dozens of people in 6 minutes had the legal age have been 21.

Yet, as pointed out already, a gun was not his only, nor probably his most deadly option.
It's what he chose and had easy access to.

And taking a 1 ton truck and mowing down 30, 40 or 50 would have made you FEEL SOOOOOO much better.

Thanks for playing
 
I wonder if he was one of those that bullied the shooter. I hear one or two of the leaders did, although I can't confirm that.
Of course you can’t.

And you have proof they didn't and can supply that link. From and interview with one of his classmates:

"Marolo Alvarez, an 11th grade student at Parkland, remembers students taunting Nikolas Cruz.

Speaking to reporters at a vigil last month for the shooting victims and reported in the TC Palm of the USA Today network, he said he wished he had said something earlier.

I could have said something to administrators, that ‘Hey this kid gets bullied a lot, please help him, please reach out to him.’ I kind of regret not doing that,” said Mr. Alvarez."

It appears many did.
Who's Marolo Alvarez?

To longtime friend, school shooter Nikolas Cruz was lonely, volatile, ostracized

A parkland 11th grader.
So Marolo Alvarez is not one of the "leaders." Thanks for playin'. :thup:

Link?

And you also have links showing that the leaders were not themselves a part of the group(s) that bullied him. Be so kind.
 
He would not have been able to easily obtain those weapons. What part of that don’t you understand?

God, trying to teach the dense is like, well, trying to teach the dense!

This young man had endured bullying for many years. A quote from one of his classmates:

"
Marolo Alvarez, an 11th grade student at Parkland, remembers students taunting Nikolas Cruz.

Speaking to reporters at a vigil last month for the shooting victims and reported in the TC Palm of the USA Today network, he said he wished he had said something earlier.

I could have said something to administrators, that ‘Hey this kid gets bullied a lot, please help him, please reach out to him.’ I kind of regret not doing that,” said Mr. Alvarez."

He was also likely on an anti-depressant or prescription for ADHD, that is linked to nearly every school shooting since these drugs became available (Interesting not is that it was nearly the same time that these shootings started)

From: Antidepressants Are a Prescription for Mass Shootings – Citizens Commission on Human Rights, CCHR

"Psychiatrists generally will tell you that these people were mentally ill and they weren’t treated in time or didn’t get enough help to prevent the tragedy. However, Dr. Peter Breggin, who is a psychiatrist, stated that depression rarely leads to violence and that it’s only since the SSRI’s came on the market that such mass shootings have taken place.

In a study of thirty-one drugs that are disproportionately linked to reports of violence toward others, five of the top ten are antidepressants. These are Prozac, Paxil, Luvox, Effexor and Pristiq. Two other drugs that are for treating ADHD are also in the top ten which means these are being given to children who could then become violent. One could conclude from this study alone that antidepressants cause both suicidal thoughts and violent behavior. This is a prescription for mass shootings.

No one can talk their way out of explaining how a person who is previously non-violent and given antidepressants suddenly becomes violent or suicidal. There are multiple cases of children who have committed suicide days after starting to take an antidepressant. In a YouTube video, various parents tell their story about what the antidepressants did to their kids
."

Do you, in all seriousness, think that a kid, that has been relentlessly bullied for years, who thinks that it will never end and he is destined to endure it forever, and one who has also had his developing brain dosed with the drugs outlined above, if he can't buy a gun, steal one? Or build a pressure cooker bomb, or simply find a 1 ton truck and likely kill even more?

Make some sense, OK?
And at 19, he still would not have been able to easily obtain the weapons he used to shoot dozens of people in 6 minutes had the legal age have been 21.

Yet, as pointed out already, a gun was not his only, nor probably his most deadly option.
It's what he chose and had easy access to.

And taking a 1 ton truck and mowing down 30, 40 or 50 would have made you FEEL SOOOOOO much better.

Thanks for playing
Your deflection is noted and dismissed. You really want to compare the annual number of murders by vehicles versus the number of murders by guns?
 
How can a kid like this get you so upset? He isn't influencing a single person.
He isn’t? He and his schoolmates were instrumental in getting Florida SB 7026 passed.

which will likely save Zero life's. A common sense set of car regulations (see post 154) would save more life's in a few weeks, then that law will save in a hundred years.

but that would make sense and satisfy the lefts logic on the subject.
Nope. Had that law already been on the books, Nikolas Cruz would not have been able to so easily purchase the weapons he used to shoot dozens of people.

He was not supposed to have been able to purchase a gun in the first place.

Commentary: Background Checks Alone Can’t Stop a Mass Shooter—But This Process Could

In this instance, Nikolas Cruz—who the Broward County Sheriff’s Office says confessedto the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School—passed a background check when he purchased his weapon from a gun store. That check would have been a simple, two-minute process in which the dealer placed a call to the FBI, which would have looked at whether Cruz had criminal background or mental health issues on record. Since nothing showed up, the sale went through.


Cruz had a history of troubling behavior—including disputes with neighbors, picking fights with other kids, and animal abuse—that frequently led to the police being called. Yet none of this showed up on his criminal record; a rap sheet is only the tip of the iceberg in terms of the crimes an individual has been involved with.

What makes you think that non reporting will stop with another law? What makes you think that a monster won't simply steal a gun, or buy one from a street thug?

Nope, when you give a bullied child medication that turns them into monsters, pass all the damn laws you want, the monster will win.
He would not have been able to easily obtain those weapons. What part of that don’t you understand?

I posted earlier about the law that would have made him unable to get a gun in the first place. You ignored that of course.
 

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