Debt-free college: Where the 2020 presidential candidates stand

[Ray From Cleveland]

A kid with only a high school education is going to struggle mightily.

Only if he wants.

Walmart to hire hundreds of truck drivers, raise salary to nearly $90,000

 

[initforme]

My kids were given an ultimatum...college and only college upon graduation. It paid off. There were NO other options. They didn't exist.

 

[sakinago]

'A clear divide exists among 2020 presidential Democrats who are rolling out plans to tackle the student debt crisis, whether tuition-free or debt-free policies are the way to win voter support.

By the numbers: Student debt in the United States has reached $1.5 trillion, and is responsible for much of millennials and generation Z's anguish.

In Congress

• Congressional committees have launched hearings to reauthorize the Higher Education Act, which looks to discuss more affordability in college costs, student loan programs and more. Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii) and Rep. Mark Pocan (D-Wisc.) reintroduced legislation to help students become debt free within 5 years of graduating.

Tuition free
These programs provide students 2 years of free tuition at participating state community colleges, associate-degree programs and vocational schools. The majority fall into the category of "last dollar" scholarships, indicating the program pays the difference in tuition after financial aid and grants have kicked in, per CNBC.

• Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is still running on his 2016 campaign promise to make college tuition free and debt free. In 2016, Sanders introduced a bill called the "College for All Act," making public college tuition-free to students through a partnership between the federal government.
• Former HUD Secretary Julián Castro supports tuition-free college.
• Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) wants to eliminate tuition and fees at 4-year public colleges and universities. She also supports free community college tuition for everyone.
• New-age spiritual guru Marianne Williamson supports universal pre-school and free college.

Debt free
This idea aims to cover the costs associated with attending public college without requiring students to take out loans, by establishing federal matches for state spending on higher education and using those funds to fill unmet need for people pursuing degrees

• Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is running her campaign on students being debt free by using proceeds from her wealth tax. Warren is a co-sponsor for the Schatz-Pocan bill and the Sanders bill. She has sponsored and co-sponsored several others including one in 2014 that allowed federal student loan borrowers to refinance their debt at a lower interest rate.
• Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.): She believes universal pre-K and college should be a "fundamental right," to be debt-free, The Atlantic reports. She is a co-sponsor for the Schatz-Pocan bill and the Sanders bill.
• Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.): Introduced a bill in 2018 for baby bonds, which attempted to close the racial-wealth gap in education. Booker is a co-sponsor for the Schatz-Pocan bill.
• Former Texas representative Beto O’Rourke has supported debt-free ideals. In 2018, he tweeted: "We should allow Texans who commit to working in in-demand fields and in underserved communities the chance to graduate debt free." O`Rourke co-sponsored Student Loan Affordability Act until 2015.
• Former tech executive Andrew Yang: Debt forgiveness plans and loan repayment plans, according to his campaign website.

Refinance student loans

• Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) rejected the idea of tuition-free college at a CNN town hall, but called for has called for free 2-year community college degrees. She offered up the idea to refinance loans and expand Pell grants.
• Former representative John Delaney has called for reforming bankruptcy laws so student loan debt can be discharged like all other debts as well as refinancing.

Mixed statements

• Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) is a co-sponsor for the Schatz-Pocan bill and the Sanders bill. In February, she tweeted she'd "allow all students to refinance their loans at 4%" if she were elected president.'

Debt-free college: Where the 2020 presidential candidates stand


I can understand universal healthcare and the $15 minimum wage (I don't fully agree with them - but I can certainly understand the logic behind them).

But this is just bat shit nuts.

No one put a fucking gun to these students heads to go massively into debt...it was 100% their choosing. Why the 'f' do students suddenly deserve to have their tuition paid off by taxpayers? Why this generation and not previous generations? And what makes student loans more important then mortgages? Or business loans? Why have taxpayers pay off student loans but do nothing for low income people with heavy mortgages/debts or business loans (NOT that I am for paying those off either - but at least they make far more sense then just paying off student loans)? What is fucking next? Progressives want taxpayers to pay off their credit cards? Car payments? Gambling debts?

This is progressives being flat out selfish. Many progressives are under 30 with HUGE student debt. So naturally their first thought is themselves.

I will say it again - HELLO? You people voluntarily took the huge student loans. You have no one to blame for them but yourselves. They are 100% YOUR responsibility. Stop pawning your bad decisions on to the rest of America. You fucked up - you get yourselves out of it. It's called 'taking responsibility for your actions'. DUH.

WTF are people still not understanding about how and why tuitions in America are the most inflated thing on this planet. Government guarantees the loan. Because banks know the loans HAVE to be paid back and you can’t declare bankruptcy, they give you as much money as possible. Colleges know students are having loan money thrown at them so they’ll let students take as many classes as they please, including fake as shit classes. This isn’t that hard to figure out.

 

[whitehall]

Right now it seems that the federal government donates billions to colleges and universities and all we get for it is whining by students and rich professors. Let's see colleges trim their budget before they expect conservative mom and pop to pay for the education of kids they don't know and who probably hate them

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I'm out alot. You want good productivity for 10 bucks an hour? Surely you Gest.

If all you're doing is pushing a broom you better be damn good at it or I'll fire your ass and hire someone for 8 bucks an hour.

 

[initforme]

Ahhh yeah. But finding people to drive trucks isn't all that hard. Unless the employer is really really bad. Really bad.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Right now it seems that the federal government donates billions to colleges and universities and all we get for it is whining by students and rich professors. Let's see colleges trim their budget before they expect conservative mom and pop to pay for the education of kids they don't know and who probably hate them

Yep, if you missed my earlier post, nearly 70 billion a year. Trump did cut that down somewhat, but 70 billion is ten times what Trump asked for a wall for one single year. They wouldn't give it to him.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

That all you got? Yep in my late 80s. 85 to be exact. Forgot more than you will ever know.

Alzheimer's is a terrible disease.....

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Only some people. Overall this is the hardest working tough nosed generation ever.

Hilarious! You need to get out more!

The snowflake generation is alive and well!

Lol. I believe he told me he's in his late 80's. Not only is he not the snowflake generation, he's not even the Pepsi generation.

They must be from the Alzheimer's generation.

Dammit!!
Beat me to it.

 

[initforme]

I would have never applied for pushing a broom. Those jobs aren't worth applying for.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Ahhh yeah. But finding people to drive trucks isn't all that hard. Unless the employer is really really bad. Really bad.

It isn't? You better do some research. We need close to 100,000 new drivers we can't find. It's so bad that companies are hiring foreigners to do the job. Walmart didn't increase their pay to 90K a year because good drivers are easy to come by.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

C'mon bring it

Bring it?
You're 85 fer fuks sake!! Ya gonna hit em with your walker?

 

[initforme]

Name calling. Classy. Can't simply correspond.

 

[initforme]

Not talking about hitting. Was asking for simple debate without name calling.

 

[initforme]

Don't use a walker. Ran a 10 k today.

 

[initforme]

Well then perhaps Americans don't aspires to drive truck. Tough job. Sitting that long is horrible for a person. Lack of physical activity is toxic.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I would have never applied for pushing a broom. Those jobs aren't worth applying for.

What does that have to do with the post I responded to?

 

[initforme]

You discussed about firing a broom pusher.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You discussed about firing a broom pusher.

You said he shouldnt work hard for 10 bucks an hour.

 

[initforme]

An employer doesn't expect a low paid worker to be a good worker. They expect and want high turnover on those jobs.