Democrats and the Abortion Issue

[HeyNorm]

If the woman chooses to abort the child, she deserves no support. NADA

And if she chooses NOT TO abort the child, if abortion is legal, she does not deserve the State demanding child support from the sperm donor either.

Only if abortion is illegal should child support be mandated.

 

[JoeB131]

You know what is coming if you get your way???
And you have to know this is true.

Women if abortion is passed will next execute children up to the age of 6 most likely. If they do not want their children, they can execute them.

Filicide is already a problem. I believe abortion encourages this vile practice.

Well, no it isn't. This is truly bizarre logic.

 

[schmidlap]

And then we get that authoritarian state out of compelling child support upon men who had no choice in the matter!

How do you think women would feel bout dat?

I have a feeling schmidlap will either fall off the discussion thread, or reply like the he is. Either way, he just ran up against THE MOST PRO CHOICE MEMBER OF THIS BOARD!

You are free to promote your issues, by all means. The State is not ordering you not to.

 

[schmidlap]

So you are a fan of Filicide!!!! Got that marked down.

Of course, you made that up, because truth is antithetical to your agenda.

 

[schmidlap]

Abortionists impose their hate of freedom on their own children. If children were not put to death, I could be a fan of abortion. Abortion is just Death spelled with an A.

Your fantasy that a person is being murdered by a woman before that person has developed during the gestative process in her womb is an irrational proposition that freedom-loving Americans do not accept.

You can indulge your personal belief. You cannot be allowed to inflict it on everyone else.

 

[schmidlap]

No one I know with the exception of rape has been forced to become pregnant.

A woman who becomes pregnant under any circumstances is still free to control her body, rather than the State arrogating that control, until an actual, viable person has developed during gestation.

Do you have a point genious?

That's "genius", not "genious."

 

[HeyNorm]

You are free to promote your issues, by all means. The State is not ordering you not to.

That’s it?

 

[HeyNorm]

A woman who becomes pregnant under any circumstances is still free to control her body, rather than the State arrogating that control, until an actual, viable person has developed during gestation.

That's "genius", not "genious."

Yep, and under my proposal nothing changes. So you agree, if women control the choice, the control the consequences of that choice.

 

[HeyNorm]

Your fantasy that a person is being murdered by a woman before that person has developed during the gestative process in her womb is an irrational proposition that freedom-loving Americans do not accept.

You can indulge your personal belief. You cannot be allowed to inflict it on everyone else.

Exactly, using the pro choice argument, it’s just a parasitic clump of cells. Get rid of it, or take total responsibility if you don’t.

Perfection.

 

[schmidlap]

That’s it?

Yes, you are free to express your personal opinion. Your are not free to impose it on everyone else.

Yep, and under my proposal nothing changes. So you agree, if women control the choice, the control the consequences of that choice.

If you advocating that the provisions of Roe v Wade, the law of the land for half-a-century that most Americans support, be maintained, you are clearly in the majority.

Exactly, using the pro choice argument, it’s just a parasitic clump of cells. Get rid of it, or take total responsibility if you don’t.

Perfection.

Your description of an embryo being "just a parasitic clump of cells" is inaccurate. While it is microscopic and mindless, it has the potential of developing into a person during the gestative process, much like an acorn has the potential of someday becoming an oak tree.

 

[HeyNorm]

Yes, you are free to express your personal opinion. Your are not free to impose it on everyone else.


If you advocating that the provisions of Roe v Wade, the law of the land for half-a-century that most Americans support, be maintained, you are clearly in the majority.


Your description of an embryo being "just a parasitic clump of cells" is inaccurate. While it is microscopic and mindless, it has the potential of developing into a person during the gestative process, much like an acorn has the potential of someday becoming an oak tree.

You avoid the argument. The woman maintains complete control. Potential to us true pro choicers is meaningless. If that potential is not valuable enough to be afforded protection, then should the woman not rid herself of it, it is still her choice, she just can’t force HER choice on anyone else if abortion is legal.

It’s the difference between adult thinking and cult thinking.

 

[schmidlap]

You avoid the argument. The woman maintains complete control. Potential to us true pro choicers is meaningless. If that potential is not valuable enough to be afforded protection, then should the woman not rid herself of it, it is still her choice, she just can’t force HER choice on anyone else if abortion is legal.

It’s the difference between adult thinking and cult thinking.

You can believe whatever you want to believe.

Most American support Roe v Wade.

Do you?

 

[HeyNorm]

You can believe whatever you want to believe.

Most American support Roe v Wade.

Do you?

I support a woman’s right to choose for herself. Do you?

 

[schmidlap]

I support a woman’s right to choose for herself. Do you?

Within the purview of Roe v Wade, of course. Like most freedom-loving Americans.

 

[HeyNorm]

Within the purview of Roe v Wade, of course. Like most freedom-loving Americans.

Funny guy.

Now the fetus has value.

 

[schmidlap]

Funny guy.

Now the fetus has value.

The fetus cannot assigned a "value" by those who presume to dictate values.

That is a personal and private matter for the person whose womb constitutes the essential context.

 

[SavannahMann]

Republicans Are in Damage Control Mode Over Abortion

Arizona’s 1864 abortion law has local party leaders flailing to avoid alienating voters.

www.thenation.com

To those of us with three-digit IQ's, the Dobbs decision took abortion off the table as a FEDERAL issue. It is a matter for the States to decide, period. In fact, if Congress passed a law trying to establish a Federal/National position on abortion, "we" all know that law would be nullified as unconstitutional as quickly as a case could be brought and appealed up through the Federal court pyramid.

But look at what has happened in recent months. Our Addled President has openly stated that if he were permitted to do so, he would pass just such an unconstitutional law to "protect a woman's so-called Right to Choose." And although we all know that he is no Constitutional scholar, even he knows that is bullshit.

Democrat (Biden) television ads have grotesquely painted a picture of some woman rushing to an out-of-state abortion clinic being stopped by police and forced to do a pregnancy test. [A pox on the house of every Leftist who was involved in any way with that abortion of an ad].

Clearly, the Democrats are determined to make this non-issue their biggest pitch in the coming general election campaign.

What can you say about this? They are knowingly focusing on something they know the President can literally do NOTHING about, in the hope that their voters are too ignorant to realize it.

And of course, the Media, far from pointing out Democrat duplicity, are constantly posting articles and opinion pieces that support this false Narrative of Biden "protecting abortion rights."

Sometimes I think the Left is stupid, but in this case, I think it's evil.

And yet Republicans have promised a Federal Law prohibiting Abortions nationally. Trump has said he would sign it. Care to try again for your faux outrage?

 

[jbander]

Republicans Are in Damage Control Mode Over Abortion

Arizona’s 1864 abortion law has local party leaders flailing to avoid alienating voters.

www.thenation.com

To those of us with three-digit IQ's, the Dobbs decision took abortion off the table as a FEDERAL issue. It is a matter for the States to decide, period. In fact, if Congress passed a law trying to establish a Federal/National position on abortion, "we" all know that law would be nullified as unconstitutional as quickly as a case could be brought and appealed up through the Federal court pyramid.

But look at what has happened in recent months. Our Addled President has openly stated that if he were permitted to do so, he would pass just such an unconstitutional law to "protect a woman's so-called Right to Choose." And although we all know that he is no Constitutional scholar, even he knows that is bullshit.

Democrat (Biden) television ads have grotesquely painted a picture of some woman rushing to an out-of-state abortion clinic being stopped by police and forced to do a pregnancy test. [A pox on the house of every Leftist who was involved in any way with that abortion of an ad].

Clearly, the Democrats are determined to make this non-issue their biggest pitch in the coming general election campaign.

What can you say about this? They are knowingly focusing on something they know the President can literally do NOTHING about, in the hope that their voters are too ignorant to realize it.

And of course, the Media, far from pointing out Democrat duplicity, are constantly posting articles and opinion pieces that support this false Narrative of Biden "protecting abortion rights."

Sometimes I think the Left is stupid, but in this case, I think it's evil.

Your ideas will do and achieve the best possible out come that could be asked for , The destruction of MAGA and force conservatives to put together a voice and party that speaks for them and not be hate driven as these MAGA pigs are now.

 

[jbander]

And yet Republicans have promised a Federal Law prohibiting Abortions nationally. Trump has said he would sign it. Care to try again for your faux outrage?

From a piece of shit God and leader of the right who has had and used the abortion system more then 99.9999% of the population. Love the hypocrisy.

 

[Robert W]

Your fantasy that a person is being murdered by a woman before that person has developed during the gestative process in her womb is an irrational proposition that freedom-loving Americans do not accept.

You can indulge your personal belief. You cannot be allowed to inflict it on everyone else.

Men get executed for killing humans. The woman kills humans. She will tell you she kills humans. It is the sole purpose of filicide.