Did We Betray The Kurds For Trump Towers?

[Hutch Starskey]

....Are we now allowing Turkey to come in and massacre the Kurds, because of his business interests?

No.



Did you miss the entire campaign, where he ran on a platform of bring the troops home?

The only question is, why it took so long.

Are the troops home? No. They were pulled back from the North.

 

[joaquinmiller]

Did we betray the Kurds for Trump Towers? | Editorial

[F]ollowing another phone call between Trump and Turkey’s president, we are suddenly pulling back U.S. troops to make way for Turkey’s planned invasion to clear the Kurds out of the border zone in Syria.

It blindsided the Pentagon, and both houses of Congress: The Kurds were our strongest allies in taking back territory from ISIS. Yet Turkish dictator Recep Tayyip Erdogan considers them terrorists.

And astonishingly, Trump is now abandoning them to die.

[snip]

“I have a little conflict of interest ’cause I have a major, major building in Istanbul,” Trump told Breitbart radio during his campaign. “It’s a tremendously successful job. It’s called Trump Towers—two towers, instead of one, not the usual one, it’s two.”

We withheld hundreds of millions of dollars in aid from Ukraine, potentially because Trump wanted the country to dig up some dirt on his 2020 rival. Are we now allowing Turkey to come in and massacre the Kurds, because of his business interests?

I know this is labeled as an "opinion piece" but for crying out loud.. .

No sources cited
Littered with quotes taken out of context
Littered with thinly veiled contempt for President Twitter

Who wrote this article one of the grade school children of the staff writers that work for NJ.com ? The "star-ledger editorial board" needs a good smack in the mouth for publishing this shoddy piece of trash that only a moron would take seriously.

What quotes are taken out of context? Sources are linked. Your complaint is bullshit.

 

[GWV5903]

Gstring5000 with another out of date BS post!

As it turns out, the Trump towers still exist. You know that, right?

That post is over 7 years old, you know that, right?

I understand it’s hard for you to see...

And that conflict of interest still exists

Allies or Terrorists: Who Are the Kurdish Fighters in Syria?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Trump's enacting Russia's policies on his way out.

-Clear Syria for Turkey/ Russian operations...check
-Throw America's trust and ability to garner support among local fighters into question worldwide......check
-Sow discord/chaos among NATO allies....check
-Sow discord/chaos accross Europe by suggesting "deadbeat european countries" deserve a return of ISIS detainees....check


Putin's wishlist.
Certainly none of that is in America's stategic interest.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Gstring5000 with another out of date BS post!

As it turns out, the Trump towers still exist. You know that, right?

That post is over 7 years old, you know that, right?

I understand it’s hard for you to see...

Yet still relevant, dope.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Is this one of those threads where the OP only wants to hammer Trump, not realizing that Obama did the same damn thing?

Obama owns hotels in Turkey?

Trump owns hotels in Turkey? Dumbass, research before you post stupid stuff.

Owns an interest, dope.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I remain curious about what the US or Trump got out of this betrayal.

Putin's gratitude.

 

[bendog]

Trump's enacting Russia's policies on his way out.

-Clear Syria for Turkey/ Russian operations...check
-Throw America's trust and ability to garner support among local fighters into question worldwide......check
-Sow discord/chaos among NATO allies....check
-Sow discord/chaos accross Europe by suggesting "deadbeat european countries" deserve a return of ISIS detainees....check


Putin's wishlist.
Certainly none of that is in America's stategic interest.

Yes, Putin and Assad benefitted from Trump's abandonment. The war with ISIS has caused thousands of muslim refugees to go to Syria … mainly sunni. But Erdogan killing the Syrian Kurds isn't going to help that. I mean he may have gotten Trump's ok to do a final solution on the Kurds and resettle the refugees in Syria …. but those plans don't seem to work out too well for anyone.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Trump's enacting Russia's policies on his way out.

-Clear Syria for Turkey/ Russian operations...check
-Throw America's trust and ability to garner support among local fighters into question worldwide......check
-Sow discord/chaos among NATO allies....check
-Sow discord/chaos accross Europe by suggesting "deadbeat european countries" deserve a return of ISIS detainees....check


Putin's wishlist.
Certainly none of that is in America's stategic interest.

Yes, Putin and Assad benefitted from Trump's abandonment. The war with ISIS has caused thousands of muslim refugees to go to Syria … mainly sunni. But Erdogan killing the Syrian Kurds isn't going to help that. I mean he may have gotten Trump's ok to do a final solution on the Kurds and resettle the refugees in Syria …. but those plans don't seem to work out too well for anyone.

That's the problem when self interest is the only consideration in making decisions.

NATO should dump Turkey immediately.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Marco Rubio is just like 90% of the GOP. He is a World Policer who loves providing military protections to foreign nations AT OUR EXPENSE without reimbursement.

I bet you hate Rand Paul and Tulsi Gabbard, don't you?

.

Tulsi Gabbard is a far left socialist wannabe. So yeah, I don't like her.

Rand Paul isn't half the man his father is.

Is Rand Paul wrong for wanting our military to stay TF out of all these foreign wars/entanglements?

I mean, fuck. Who is benefiting from fighting ISIS more? The U.S. or the Kurds? Who should do most of the fighting?

.

It was a symbiotic relationship.

Barely. 90% in favor of the Kurds.

.

 

[Thinker101]

Is this one of those threads where the OP only wants to hammer Trump, not realizing that Obama did the same damn thing?

Obama owns hotels in Turkey?

Trump owns hotels in Turkey? Dumbass, research before you post stupid stuff.

Owns an interest, dope.

Owns an interest suggests he owns a portion of the hotel, he does not...dumbass.

 

[Wry Catcher]

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Did we betray the Kurds for Trump Towers? | Editorial

[F]ollowing another phone call between Trump and Turkey’s president, we are suddenly pulling back U.S. troops to make way for Turkey’s planned invasion to clear the Kurds out of the border zone in Syria.

It blindsided the Pentagon, and both houses of Congress: The Kurds were our strongest allies in taking back territory from ISIS. Yet Turkish dictator Recep Tayyip Erdogan considers them terrorists.

And astonishingly, Trump is now abandoning them to die.

[snip]

“I have a little conflict of interest ’cause I have a major, major building in Istanbul,” Trump told Breitbart radio during his campaign. “It’s a tremendously successful job. It’s called Trump Towers—two towers, instead of one, not the usual one, it’s two.”

We withheld hundreds of millions of dollars in aid from Ukraine, potentially because Trump wanted the country to dig up some dirt on his 2020 rival. Are we now allowing Turkey to come in and massacre the Kurds, because of his business interests?

Are you people this dumb? It's like you've just decided to pay attention to this part of the world 8 minutes ago. Where was your concern for the Kurds, oh I don't know, forever? The Turks have been savaging the Kurds forever. And yes, even under the messiah Obama. Now we're going to pull out 50 people and you are suddenly concerned?

Ukraine? Why are you concerned, the prosecutor investigating Biden's son was fired a long time ago.

Those of us who follow geopolitics understood the Kurd's situation, that they are our allies and the Commander-in-Chief tossed them under the bus without consulting anyone.

Trump is inept, incompetent and a dunce when it comes to foreign policy (and everything a Commander-in Chief & a President of the United States should know). That and the fact that he won't listen to anyone who does not tell him what he wants to hear, and we get what you elected, chaos.

Trump has put two million Kurdish Families in harms way, and he doesn't give a damn about their future.

You apparently have not followed geopolitics for long. The travails of the Kurds very much predates Trump. They also predate Obama, who was no help to them. If you wish to truly side with the Kurds I'd suggest you listen to them at some point. I can assure you, Trump withdrawing 50 people will be quite low on the multi-decade complaint list they have. One of the first will probably be facing brand new US weapons, even from ISIS, for at least the last decade. Their true enemy are the Turks. the US siding with the Turks over the Kurds is hardly a Trump thing. Educate yourself on the subject.

Your spin is noted, and it did not turn. Turkey is allied with the US in NATO. The Fact is, as I am writing this, the Kurds' villages on the border of Syria and Turkey are being bombarded by the Turkey Military, and being murdered by Kurdish Militias.

The clear, probative reason for Turkey's ethnic cleansing of the Kurds' was Trump's callous and stupid telephone call with the Turkish President, giving him a green light to engage in this slaughter of Kurdish Families.

 

[g5000]

I remain curious about what the US or Trump got out of this betrayal.

It's the classic tail wagging the dog. Like Clinton did during his impeachment inquiry.

Trump has blood on his hands.

 

[g5000]

Marco Rubio is just like 90% of the GOP. He is a World Policer who loves providing military protections to foreign nations AT OUR EXPENSE without reimbursement.

I bet you hate Rand Paul and Tulsi Gabbard, don't you?

.

Tulsi Gabbard is a far left socialist wannabe. So yeah, I don't like her.

Rand Paul isn't half the man his father is.

Is Rand Paul wrong for wanting our military to stay TF out of all these foreign wars/entanglements?

I mean, fuck. Who is benefiting from fighting ISIS more? The U.S. or the Kurds? Who should do most of the fighting?

.

It's amazing to see how Trump has turned the GOP into the cut and run party.

When will you people ever figure out he is, and always will be, a Democrat?!?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Marco Rubio is just like 90% of the GOP. He is a World Policer who loves providing military protections to foreign nations AT OUR EXPENSE without reimbursement.

I bet you hate Rand Paul and Tulsi Gabbard, don't you?

.

What do you mean by, "AT OUR EXPENSE without reimbursement."?

 

[sartre play]

The Kurds have been helping us since WW2, great fighters, very westernized, sure they have their own agenda, doesn't seem to conflict with ours.

 

[Lesh]

Owns an interest suggests he owns a portion of the hotel, he does not...dumbass.

He makes a million a year on each...thanks for the distinction without a difference

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Even long time Trump lickspittle Lindsey Graham is opposed:

None of that is going to happen. Europe depends on Turkey to hold the line against a muslim invasion of millions.

Communist Kurds v the slaughter of Europe. It's not a hard decision. Especially for Europe.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Marco Rubio is just like 90% of the GOP. He is a World Policer who loves providing military protections to foreign nations AT OUR EXPENSE without reimbursement.

I bet you hate Rand Paul and Tulsi Gabbard, don't you?

.

Tulsi Gabbard is a far left socialist wannabe. So yeah, I don't like her.

Rand Paul isn't half the man his father is.

Is Rand Paul wrong for wanting our military to stay TF out of all these foreign wars/entanglements?

I mean, fuck. Who is benefiting from fighting ISIS more? The U.S. or the Kurds? Who should do most of the fighting?

.

It's amazing to see how Trump has turned the GOP into the cut and run party.

When will you people ever figure out he is, and always will be, a Democrat?!?

I don't give a sheep shit what the fuck he is. He is doing as I wish by pulling us out of all these bullshit foreign "police actions" that never end and do nothing but benefit the military/industrial complex.

When he gets us involved in another foreign "police action" I will be bitching at his orange ass the whole way.

.

 

[Rambunctious]

The Kurds have been helping us since WW2, great fighters, very westernized, sure they have their own agenda, doesn't seem to conflict with ours.

Not all Kurd's are one in the same....look it up.....did you know some Kurd's worse enemy are other Kurd's?....