End income tax

[Conservative65]

Most people like Police, millitary, roads, water infrastructure, powerlines and clean air, water and food. I'd increase the income tax on the godamn rich 10% and lower it a little on the middle class.

While letting the poor continue to be freeloaders benefiting from those things while paying nothing into the pot?

 

[SYTFE]

No more IRS. Think about how many problems and $$ that would save.
No more bitching about tax returns
Loss of lobbyists in Washington
Products would be less. Then again, consumption tax would raise it back up... Hmmm
Everyone would pay their "fair share"
Loopholes? What fucking loopholes?

You conservatives literally have no idea how the world works. Not a goddamn clue.

 

[ScienceRocks]

No more IRS. Think about how many problems and $$ that would save.
No more bitching about tax returns
Loss of lobbyists in Washington
Products would be less. Then again, consumption tax would raise it back up... Hmmm
Everyone would pay their "fair share"
Loopholes? What fucking loopholes?

You conservatives literally have no idea how the world works. Not a goddamn clue.

They'd abolish civilization if they could. Somalia would be their dream for the future of america.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Yet, TNHARLY IS RACIST against poor black countries in Africa? Somehow he seems to want to be just as poor and do it on purpose.

 

[Kosh]

25% of income taxes are spent on our military.

RW's want no income tax and a better, stronger military.

maybe they can figure that one out.

And yet that is one of the few things that is Constitutional spending by the Congress..

Silly far left drone!

The lefties regularly have a problem with spending on things specifically in the Constitution but have no problem with spending on things that aren't there. I can point to the Article, Section, and Clause that permits military spending as a delegated power. I have yet to have one lefty show me the word food stamps, WIC, government housing, Medicaid, etc. in the Constitution.

That clause literally says "general welfare" .

That clause doesn't say any of the words you lefties claim are in the Constitution. General welfare doesn't mean social welfare.

General welfare is public welfare, or social welfare.

Another far left debunked narrative being run.

general welfare is in the Preamble:

Promote the general Welfare

This, and the next part of the Preamble, are the culmination of everything that came before it — the whole point of having tranquility, justice, and defense was to promote the general welfare — to allow every state and every citizen of those states to benefit from what the government could provide. The framers looked forward to the expansion of land holdings, industry, and investment, and they knew that a strong national government would be the beginning of that.

Here is a lank for the far left drone here that may help them:

The Constitution for Kids (Kindergarten - 3rd Grade) - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

 

[ScienceRocks]

It's not bribing. It's giving the ones you want what you have. Are you opposed to that?

The government can't give anyone a dime. If the government forces a person that pays the taxes to do it and it's not the person(s) the one whose money it is chooses, that's the wrong person.

It's easy to tell you're not one of those that had someone able to give you anything. That's why you want the government to do it for you.

Let's remember that civilization is never free.

It's fun to say "no tax", but the real issue is how to pay for our civilization.

No one said it's free.

The problem with saying "the real issue is how to pay for civilization is so many are allowed to get by with not funding or contributing to it in any way. What compounds it is those say civilization has to be paid for by those in it justify those not contributing doing so. If civilization has to be funded, why do only certain ones do the funding and everyone benefit from it?

Everybody pays taxes and fees.

We have graduated income tax for very obvious reasons.

And, we allow the wealthy to design our systems - or do you think poor people would choose to spend trillions of dollars to slughter people in Afghanistan and to vonquer Iraq???

The wealthy fund our system. Should the poor people that provide nothing of benefit to society get to dictate how society runs.

The poor people would continue to sit on their asses collecting food stamps, welfare, and any other handout they can get while demanding others foot the bill.

The graduate income tax in nonsense. Taxing people that make more a higher AMOUNT isn't the issue. Taxing them a higher percentage is. You bleeding hearts constantly talk about equality then support things that aren't equal.

You are demanding that those with survival levels of income pay for the BS rich folk want to do.

That is just plain ludicrous.

Remember these people want us to be more like central America where the rich hold all the wealth and the little peon slaves away.

Fuck that.

 

[Kosh]

No more IRS. Think about how many problems and $$ that would save.
No more bitching about tax returns
Loss of lobbyists in Washington
Products would be less. Then again, consumption tax would raise it back up... Hmmm
Everyone would pay their "fair share"
Loopholes? What fucking loopholes?

You conservatives literally have no idea how the world works. Not a goddamn clue.

They'd abolish civilization if they could. Somalia would be their dream for the future of america.

And yes Obama will be office soon, so that will not happen!

Silly far left drone!

 

[Conservative65]

And yet that is one of the few things that is Constitutional spending by the Congress..

Silly far left drone!

The lefties regularly have a problem with spending on things specifically in the Constitution but have no problem with spending on things that aren't there. I can point to the Article, Section, and Clause that permits military spending as a delegated power. I have yet to have one lefty show me the word food stamps, WIC, government housing, Medicaid, etc. in the Constitution.

That clause literally says "general welfare" .

That clause doesn't say any of the words you lefties claim are in the Constitution. General welfare doesn't mean social welfare.

General welfare is public welfare, or social welfare.

Another far left debunked narrative being run.

general welfare is in the Preamble:

Promote the general Welfare

This, and the next part of the Preamble, are the culmination of everything that came before it — the whole point of having tranquility, justice, and defense was to promote the general welfare — to allow every state and every citizen of those states to benefit from what the government could provide. The framers looked forward to the expansion of land holdings, industry, and investment, and they knew that a strong national government would be the beginning of that.

Here is a lank for the far left drone here that may help them:

The Constitution for Kids (Kindergarten - 3rd Grade) - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

Promoting the general welfare doesn't mean handing someone something they're unwilling to earn. It means keeping the government out of the way so they can better themselves.

 

[Conservative65]

Let's remember that civilization is never free.

It's fun to say "no tax", but the real issue is how to pay for our civilization.

No one said it's free.

The problem with saying "the real issue is how to pay for civilization is so many are allowed to get by with not funding or contributing to it in any way. What compounds it is those say civilization has to be paid for by those in it justify those not contributing doing so. If civilization has to be funded, why do only certain ones do the funding and everyone benefit from it?

Everybody pays taxes and fees.

We have graduated income tax for very obvious reasons.

And, we allow the wealthy to design our systems - or do you think poor people would choose to spend trillions of dollars to slughter people in Afghanistan and to vonquer Iraq???

The wealthy fund our system. Should the poor people that provide nothing of benefit to society get to dictate how society runs.

The poor people would continue to sit on their asses collecting food stamps, welfare, and any other handout they can get while demanding others foot the bill.

The graduate income tax in nonsense. Taxing people that make more a higher AMOUNT isn't the issue. Taxing them a higher percentage is. You bleeding hearts constantly talk about equality then support things that aren't equal.

You are demanding that those with survival levels of income pay for the BS rich folk want to do.

That is just plain ludicrous.

Remember these people want us to be more like central America where the rich hold all the wealth and the little peon slaves away.

Fuck that.

Hey little peon, do something to better yourself and you won't be treated like the peon you've made yourself to be. If you act like a peon, don't be shocked if someone treats you like one.

 

[Conservative65]

Let's remember that civilization is never free.

It's fun to say "no tax", but the real issue is how to pay for our civilization.

No one said it's free.

The problem with saying "the real issue is how to pay for civilization is so many are allowed to get by with not funding or contributing to it in any way. What compounds it is those say civilization has to be paid for by those in it justify those not contributing doing so. If civilization has to be funded, why do only certain ones do the funding and everyone benefit from it?

Everybody pays taxes and fees.

We have graduated income tax for very obvious reasons.

And, we allow the wealthy to design our systems - or do you think poor people would choose to spend trillions of dollars to slughter people in Afghanistan and to vonquer Iraq???

The wealthy fund our system. Should the poor people that provide nothing of benefit to society get to dictate how society runs.

The poor people would continue to sit on their asses collecting food stamps, welfare, and any other handout they can get while demanding others foot the bill.

The graduate income tax in nonsense. Taxing people that make more a higher AMOUNT isn't the issue. Taxing them a higher percentage is. You bleeding hearts constantly talk about equality then support things that aren't equal.

You are demanding that those with survival levels of income pay for the BS rich folk want to do.

That is just plain ludicrous.

Remember these people want us to be more like central America where the rich hold all the wealth and the little peon slaves away.

Fuck that.

I want you to do for yourself instead of demanding free shit all the time. No one owes you a damn thing and if you have to go without because you won't do for yourself, fine by me. Sooner or later, it will be one less we have to fool with and can move on to the next one.

 

[danielpalos]

25% of income taxes are spent on our military.

RW's want no income tax and a better, stronger military.

maybe they can figure that one out.

And yet that is one of the few things that is Constitutional spending by the Congress..

Silly far left drone!

maybe you can quote me naming anything else ?

Maybe you can prove that far left will cut their social programs and not just the military..

How did the US pay for the military before the income tax?

Silly far left drone!

there was no standing army.

This is why the far left is so dangerous!

The United States Army (USA) is the largest branch of the United States Armed Forces and performs land-based military operations. It is one of the seven uniformed services of the United States and is designated as the Army of the United States in the United States Constitution, Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1 and United States Code, Title 10, Subtitle B, Chapter 301, Section 3001. As the largest and senior branch of the U.S. military, the modern U.S. Army has its roots in the Continental Army, which was formed (14 June 1775) to fight the American Revolutionary War (1775–1783)—before the U.S. was established as a country.[6] After the Revolutionary War, the Congress of the Confederation created the United States Army on 3 June 1784, to replace the disbanded Continental Army.[7][8] The United States Army considers itself descended from the Continental Army, and dates its institutional inception from the origin of that armed force in 1775.[6]

United States Army - Wikipedia

This why the far left should never hold any position of power!

why is that? we don't want to wage war on a for-profit basis under our form of capitalism, merely so the rich can get richer, faster.

 

[danielpalos]

25% of income taxes are spent on our military.

RW's want no income tax and a better, stronger military.

maybe they can figure that one out.

And yet that is one of the few things that is Constitutional spending by the Congress..

Silly far left drone!

the common defense And general welfare.

And yes the far left often cites that, but proves they do not understand the Constitution!

The military, post office and few other things are true Constitutional spending!

so is providing for the general welfare.

 

[danielpalos]

FDR did say that the income tax would be temporary to pay for WWII.Sohave we paid off WWII, yet?

we need to pay down our wars on crime, drugs, poverty, and terror.

So FDR started all that? or is this another far left droned debunked religious narrative?

only if you have nothing but diversion. we have an income tax now. let's end our war on drugs, to start.

 

[Kosh]

And yet that is one of the few things that is Constitutional spending by the Congress..

Silly far left drone!

maybe you can quote me naming anything else ?

Maybe you can prove that far left will cut their social programs and not just the military..

How did the US pay for the military before the income tax?

Silly far left drone!

there was no standing army.

This is why the far left is so dangerous!

The United States Army (USA) is the largest branch of the United States Armed Forces and performs land-based military operations. It is one of the seven uniformed services of the United States and is designated as the Army of the United States in the United States Constitution, Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1 and United States Code, Title 10, Subtitle B, Chapter 301, Section 3001. As the largest and senior branch of the U.S. military, the modern U.S. Army has its roots in the Continental Army, which was formed (14 June 1775) to fight the American Revolutionary War (1775–1783)—before the U.S. was established as a country.[6] After the Revolutionary War, the Congress of the Confederation created the United States Army on 3 June 1784, to replace the disbanded Continental Army.[7][8] The United States Army considers itself descended from the Continental Army, and dates its institutional inception from the origin of that armed force in 1775.[6]

United States Army - Wikipedia

This why the far left should never hold any position of power!

why is that? we don't want to wage war on a for-profit basis under our form of capitalism, merely so the rich can get richer, faster.

Yes just look at the illegal wars of Obama..

More far left drone debunked religious dogma!

But what do you expect from the far left as they hold FDR as god for imprisoning Americans.

 

[Kosh]

FDR did say that the income tax would be temporary to pay for WWII.Sohave we paid off WWII, yet?

we need to pay down our wars on crime, drugs, poverty, and terror.

So FDR started all that? or is this another far left droned debunked religious narrative?

only if you have nothing but diversion. we have an income tax now. let's end our war on drugs, to start.

Yes a far left debunked narrative being run..

How about the war on poverty? Obama has made poverty worse, so we should stop that war!

 

[Kosh]

25% of income taxes are spent on our military.

RW's want no income tax and a better, stronger military.

maybe they can figure that one out.

And yet that is one of the few things that is Constitutional spending by the Congress..

Silly far left drone!

the common defense And general welfare.

And yes the far left often cites that, but proves they do not understand the Constitution!

The military, post office and few other things are true Constitutional spending!

so is providing for the general welfare.

And the far left proves they do not understand the Constitution when they say such tings!

Here you go this might help you far left drones:

The Constitution for Kids (Kindergarten - 3rd Grade) - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

 

[OnePercenter]

No more IRS. Think about how many problems and $$ that would save.
No more bitching about tax returns
Loss of lobbyists in Washington
Products would be less. Then again, consumption tax would raise it back up... Hmmm
Everyone would pay their "fair share"
Loopholes? What fucking loopholes?

You conservatives literally have no idea how the world works. Not a goddamn clue.

Middle class conservatives are like monkeys at the zoo eating each others poop.

 

[danielpalos]

maybe you can quote me naming anything else ?

Maybe you can prove that far left will cut their social programs and not just the military..

How did the US pay for the military before the income tax?

Silly far left drone!

there was no standing army.

This is why the far left is so dangerous!

The United States Army (USA) is the largest branch of the United States Armed Forces and performs land-based military operations. It is one of the seven uniformed services of the United States and is designated as the Army of the United States in the United States Constitution, Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1 and United States Code, Title 10, Subtitle B, Chapter 301, Section 3001. As the largest and senior branch of the U.S. military, the modern U.S. Army has its roots in the Continental Army, which was formed (14 June 1775) to fight the American Revolutionary War (1775–1783)—before the U.S. was established as a country.[6] After the Revolutionary War, the Congress of the Confederation created the United States Army on 3 June 1784, to replace the disbanded Continental Army.[7][8] The United States Army considers itself descended from the Continental Army, and dates its institutional inception from the origin of that armed force in 1775.[6]

United States Army - Wikipedia

This why the far left should never hold any position of power!

why is that? we don't want to wage war on a for-profit basis under our form of capitalism, merely so the rich can get richer, faster.

Yes just look at the illegal wars of Obama..

More far left drone debunked religious dogma!

But what do you expect from the far left as they hold FDR as god for imprisoning Americans.

what illegal wars? where did we actually invade a country, only to not solve the problem.

 

[Kosh]

No more IRS. Think about how many problems and $$ that would save.
No more bitching about tax returns
Loss of lobbyists in Washington
Products would be less. Then again, consumption tax would raise it back up... Hmmm
Everyone would pay their "fair share"
Loopholes? What fucking loopholes?

You conservatives literally have no idea how the world works. Not a goddamn clue.

Middle class conservatives are like monkeys at the zoo eating each others poop.

See ho the far left elites view anyone not part of the far left religion?

Why does the far left hate unions?

 

[danielpalos]

25% of income taxes are spent on our military.

RW's want no income tax and a better, stronger military.

maybe they can figure that one out.

And yet that is one of the few things that is Constitutional spending by the Congress..

Silly far left drone!

the common defense And general welfare.

And yes the far left often cites that, but proves they do not understand the Constitution!

The military, post office and few other things are true Constitutional spending!

so is providing for the general welfare.

And the far left proves they do not understand the Constitution when they say such tings!

Here you go this might help you far left drones:

The Constitution for Kids (Kindergarten - 3rd Grade) - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

yes, it does. the common defense and general welfare are in the same sentence.