Explain to me, the lawful meaning of "SHALL"

[nat4900]

Meet the new thread....
Same as the old thread.
Only a loser pussy like the OP would construct a new thread from an old one.
Mods, please merge.

QUICK......FIRE your reading comprehension GED teacher......

 

[Oddball]

possibly....shall is one of the most litigated words in the English language....because it can also mean "may, will or must."

The last reading I did of Black's, the word "must" is on a par with "shall"....Neither are imperative if you are forced to surrender your rights.

 

[Harry Dresden]

WTF is your whiny OP about? needs a link.

he has no idea what he is talking about....

 

[Harry Dresden]

possibly....shall is one of the most litigated words in the English language....because it can also mean "may, will or must."

The last reading I did of Black's, the word "must" is on a par with "shall"....Neither are imperative if you are forced to surrender your rights.

like they said.....shall is one of the most litigated words in the English language....because it can also mean "may, will or must."

 

[nat4900]

you mean that thread ran from after getting your ass handed to you again?....that one?....

Speaking of asses.....Keep those lips of yours FIRMLY on Trump's fat orange behind, Harry.....LMAO

 

[B. Kidd]

Meet the new thread....
Same as the old thread.
Only a loser pussy like the OP would construct a new thread from an old one.
Mods, please merge.

QUICK......FIRE your reading comprehension GED teacher......

Don't mock me just because a mod has their head up their ass.

 

[Harry Dresden]

you mean that thread ran from after getting your ass handed to you again?....that one?....

Speaking of asses.....Keep those lips of yours FIRMLY on Trump's fat orange behind, Harry.....LMAO

like i asked you in the thread you ran from....show a post of mine kissing trumps ass....are you going to run from this thread now?....

 

[nat4900]

What is SHALL? definition of SHALL (Black's Law Dictionary)

You gonna run away again?

NO...NO.......I FULLY realize that among Trump CULT members you now MUST change even the English language to protect your moron-in-chief.......
Carry on.....its MANDATED by your cult membership...............LOL

 

[Oddball]

NO...NO.......I FULLy realize that among Trump CULT members you now MUST change even the English language to protect your moron-in-chief.......
Carry on.....its MANDATED by your cult membership...............LOL

The legal language in this matter was set long before Trump showed up on the scene, shitferbrains.

 

[nat4900]

the supreme court ruled on the meaning of shall and must in a statute....must means its mandatory, while shall means may.....so shall not be infringed means it may be...

Yes.....Trump ass kisser.......I am "sure" that the writers of almost EVERY Amendment that stated SHALL.........really meant "maybe, depending on whose ass you want to kiss"

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Believe it or not.....on another popular thread, Trump "defenders" are arguing that the term (verb) SHALL really means a politte "may" when House committee members cite the existing LAW as to why Trump's tax returns should be handed over.

But, this is not the only moronic attempt by Trump sycophants.....

Since the Mueller report was handed over to the Trump stooge Barr, it has become obvious that the existing DOJ policy places a sitting president ABOVE the law since it clearly states that such a sitting president cannot be indicted......essentially, a sitting president is ABOVE the scrutiny and repercussions for acts committed by any other citizen.....

However, when it comes to handing over Trump's tax returns, his ass kissers DO revert to making Trump just another citizen who must be "protected" from the meanies who are investigating his probable misdeeds.

I don't expect for Trump followers to take this obvious hypocrisy too seriously....after all, there are strict rules within the Trump cult and any attack on his orange ass SHALL not be tolerate.....LOL

Are you still talking about the Mueller "No Collusion No Obstruction" Report

 

[TemplarKormac]

Believe it or not.....on another popular thread, Trump "defenders" are arguing that the term (verb) SHALL really means a politte "may" when House committee members cite the existing LAW as to why Trump's tax returns should be handed over.

Hate to burst your bubble, nat. For that I am truly sorry. Not.

WHAT IS SHALL?

As used in statutes and similar instruments, this word is generally imperative or mandatory; but it may be construed as merely permissive or directory, (as equivalent to “may,”) to carry out the legislative intention and In cases where no right or benefit to any one depends on its being taken in the imperative sense, and where no public or private right is impaired by its interpretation in the other sense. Also, as against the government, “shall” is to be construed as “may,” unless a contrary intention is manifest.

What is SHALL? definition of SHALL (Black's Law Dictionary)

You gonna run away again?

Oh, so actual law and precedent is repulsive huh, Nat? Were you interested in the actual definition or not? No?

Of course not.

Duly noted.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

the supreme court ruled on the meaning of shall and must in a statute....must means its mandatory, while shall means may.....so shall not be infringed means it may be...

Yes.....Trump ass kisser.......I am "sure" that the writers of almost EVERY Amendment that stated SHALL.........really meant "maybe, depending on whose ass you want to kiss"

Jake, it's going to be very bad. Find a secluded cabin with no TV or electronics for, well the damage should last for the next 25 years

 

[Harry Dresden]

the supreme court ruled on the meaning of shall and must in a statute....must means its mandatory, while shall means may.....so shall not be infringed means it may be...

Yes.....Trump ass kisser.......I am "sure" that the writers of almost EVERY Amendment that stated SHALL.........really meant "maybe, depending on whose ass you want to kiss"

take it up with the supreme court nat....and when are you going to back up what you said about me?...

 

[TemplarKormac]

Believe it or not.....on another popular thread, Trump "defenders" are arguing that the term (verb) SHALL really means a politte "may" when House committee members cite the existing LAW as to why Trump's tax returns should be handed over.

But, this is not the only moronic attempt by Trump sycophants.....

Since the Mueller report was handed over to the Trump stooge Barr, it has become obvious that the existing DOJ policy places a sitting president ABOVE the law since it clearly states that such a sitting president cannot be indicted......essentially, a sitting president is ABOVE the scrutiny and repercussions for acts committed by any other citizen.....

However, when it comes to handing over Trump's tax returns, his ass kissers DO revert to making Trump just another citizen who must be "protected" from the meanies who are investigating his probable misdeeds.

I don't expect for Trump followers to take this obvious hypocrisy too seriously....after all, there are strict rules within the Trump cult and any attack on his orange ass SHALL not be tolerate.....LOL

Are you still talking about the Mueller "No Collusion No Obstruction" Report

What else has he been talking about for the past month?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Believe it or not.....on another popular thread, Trump "defenders" are arguing that the term (verb) SHALL really means a politte "may" when House committee members cite the existing LAW as to why Trump's tax returns should be handed over.

Hate to burst your bubble, nat. For that I am truly sorry. Not.

WHAT IS SHALL?

As used in statutes and similar instruments, this word is generally imperative or mandatory; but it may be construed as merely permissive or directory, (as equivalent to “may,”) to carry out the legislative intention and In cases where no right or benefit to any one depends on its being taken in the imperative sense, and where no public or private right is impaired by its interpretation in the other sense. Also, as against the government, “shall” is to be construed as “may,” unless a contrary intention is manifest.

What is SHALL? definition of SHALL (Black's Law Dictionary)

You gonna run away again?

Oh, so actual law and precedent is repulsive huh, Nat? Were you interested in the actual definition or not? No?

Of course not.

Duly noted.

if nat doesnt agree with it,he is against it....just like those deplorables he talks about...

 

[kyzr]

nat, what about democrat policies?
Instead of whining about Trump in 10 new threads a day, put up some of the "no brainer" democrat policies you support.
Here is a list to pick from. If you can't defend them, then don't whine about why we voted for Trump.
1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. Single Payer Healthcare, aka rationed healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones"
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes to 70% on the wealthy, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
13. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
14. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
15. No new pipelines
16. No offshore drilling
17. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
18. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
19. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
20. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
21. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and paid for the phony Steele Dossier
22. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
23. Refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
24. Give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but not help US citizens living in tent cities
25. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
26. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
27. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
28. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
29. Promote or excuse the murder of newborns, i.e. "infanticide"
30. Change the Electoral College to popular vote
31. All prisoners get to vote, even the Boston Marathon Bomber, so says Bernie

 

[nat4900]

Are you still talking about the Mueller "No Collusion No Obstruction" Report

REALLY?????..................THAT'S what the Mueller report "concluded"????

Find a 5th grader to explain to you even what the stooge Barr stated in his little, cute "summary."

(how dumb are these Trump ass kissers?? ...and fellow morons, "cheer")........LMAO

 

[Lesh]

Believe it or not.....on another popular thread, Trump "defenders" are arguing that the term (verb) SHALL really means a politte "may" when House committee members cite the existing LAW as to why Trump's tax returns should be handed over.

Hate to burst your bubble, nat. For that I am truly sorry. Not.

WHAT IS SHALL?

As used in statutes and similar instruments, this word is generally imperative or mandatory; but it may be construed as merely permissive or directory, (as equivalent to “may,”) to carry out the legislative intention and In cases where no right or benefit to any one depends on its being taken in the imperative sense, and where no public or private right is impaired by its interpretation in the other sense. Also, as against the government, “shall” is to be construed as “may,” unless a contrary intention is manifest.

What is SHALL? definition of SHALL (Black's Law Dictionary)

You gonna run away again?

What's the only word that means mandatory? Here's what law and policy say about "shall, will, may and must."

It only became so in legal writings after 2010

Until recently, law schools taught attorneys that "shall" means "must." That's why many attorneys and executives think "shall" means "must." It's not their fault. The Federal Plain Writing Act and the Federal Plain Language Guidelines only appeared in 2010. And the fact is, even though "must" has come to be the only clear, valid way to express "mandatory," most parts of the Code of Federal Regulations (CFRs) that govern federal departments still use the word "shall" for that purpose.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Are you still talking about the Mueller "No Collusion No Obstruction" Report

REALLY?????..................THAT'S what the Mueller report "concluded"????

Find a 5th grader to explain to you even what the stooge Barr stated in his little, cute "summary."

(how dumb are these Trump ass kissers?? ...and fellow morons, "cheer")........LMAO

Curious, you're a 5th grader aren't you?