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For Those Who Don't Understand What Occupy is REALLY About (Obviously LOTS of you)

Three quotes from that great article written by Chuck Norris:

"philosophic and sociological theory in which a culturally diverse society can be dominated (ruled) by one social class, by manipulating the societal culture (beliefs, explanations, perceptions, values) so that its ruling-class worldview is imposed as the societal norm, which is then perceived as a universally valid ideology and status quo beneficial to all of society, whilst benefiting only the ruling class."

To progressives, the masses don't need to understand the principles, just stand up for them. In fact, it's actually better that they remain ignorant. "Here our concern is [only] with the tactic of taking; how the Have-Nots can take power away from the Haves."

Jefferson, "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people. Enable them to see that it is their interest to preserve peace and order, and they will preserve them. And it requires no very high degree of education to convince them of this. They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
 
Three quotes from that great article written by Chuck Norris:

"philosophic and sociological theory in which a culturally diverse society can be dominated (ruled) by one social class, by manipulating the societal culture (beliefs, explanations, perceptions, values) so that its ruling-class worldview is imposed as the societal norm, which is then perceived as a universally valid ideology and status quo beneficial to all of society, whilst benefiting only the ruling class."

To progressives, the masses don't need to understand the principles, just stand up for them. In fact, it's actually better that they remain ignorant. "Here our concern is [only] with the tactic of taking; how the Have-Nots can take power away from the Haves."

Jefferson, "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people. Enable them to see that it is their interest to preserve peace and order, and they will preserve them. And it requires no very high degree of education to convince them of this. They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."

As Norris (among others) proves, the brain power in this nation is solidly on the right.

But the left makes up for it with anger, hatred, hypocrisy, and ignorance.
 
Obey the Gestapo or else! Is this what Americans really want from their Police Force. People should think about that a bit more before answering.
 
Obey the Gestapo or else! Is this what Americans really want from their Police Force. People should think about that a bit more before answering.

Since the Gestapo was the secret police of Hitler's Nazi Party, one could make the point that "you" should think about what you're accusing our police of being, Paul. It's an unfair charactorization and I think you know it.
 
Obey the Gestapo or else! Is this what Americans really want from their Police Force. People should think about that a bit more before answering.

Since the Gestapo was the secret police of Hitler's Nazi Party, one could make the point that "you" should think about what you're accusing our police of being, Paul. It's an unfair charactorization and I think you know it.

I'm speaking more to the mentality of most Americans these days. They're just so entrenched in their Authority-Worship that they have given the Police too much power & control. And the German People also worshipped their Gestapo this way. The Government/Police are often wrong and it's vital we call them on it every single time. There is no need to bow,worship,and defend them. Citizens are not required to do that. They actually do work for us. They're supposed to be our equals. They are not superior in any way. We desperately need to reverse this Authority-Worship course we're on.
 
Since the Gestapo was the secret police of Hitler's Nazi Party, one could make the point that "you" should think about what you're accusing our police of being, Paul. It's an unfair charactorization and I think you know it.

Right.

DHS would be the more accurate comparison to the Gestapo.
 
If they're not smart enough to obey a lawful order and disperse, who's fault is it they got pepper sprayed?

I don't understand why they used pepper spray? What was the purpose? In the old days, they would have used a fire hose, which makes much more sense. The fire hose would have gotten them to move, washed the shit off the sidewalk AND off of the Shitters, in one action.

Thank you. Up till now I thought I was taking crazy pills. Its like they were just so eager to use chemical weapons against the people. Our culture is sick that this is even being debated as acceptable. We mace soldiers in basic training to prepare them for war. Think about it.
 
Obey the Gestapo or else! Is this what Americans really want from their Police Force. People should think about that a bit more before answering.
Suggesting our police forces use gestapo tactics is an insult to all our policemen.

I suggest the intractability of the occupiers more closely resembles gestapo for effectively attacking our policemen by not observing the law and lawful orders to cease and desist.
 
Obey the Gestapo or else! Is this what Americans really want from their Police Force. People should think about that a bit more before answering.
Since the Gestapo was the secret police of Hitler's Nazi Party, one could make the point that "you" should think about what you're accusing our police of being, Paul. It's an unfair charactorization and I think you know it..
I'm speaking more to the mentality of most Americans these days.
Bullshit. The American people are tried of the occupiers making trouble for the masses.
They're just so entrenched in their Authority-Worship that they have given the Police too much power & control. And the German People also worshipped their Gestapo this way. The Government/Police are often wrong and it's vital we call them on it every single time. There is no need to bow,worship,and defend them. Citizens are not required to do that. They actually do work for us. They're supposed to be our equals. They are not superior in any way. We desperately need to reverse this Authority-Worship course we're on.
When the police go into private homes of those who protest and beat them senseless for doing nothing more than protest, then it is police brutality.

When protesters refuse to clear out and when the police try to remove them and they resist, it is the protester who is being brutal against the police.
 
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If they're not smart enough to obey a lawful order and disperse, who's fault is it they got pepper sprayed?

I don't understand why they used pepper spray? What was the purpose? In the old days, they would have used a fire hose, which makes much more sense. The fire hose would have gotten them to move, washed the shit off the sidewalk AND off of the Shitters, in one action.

Thank you. Up till now I thought I was taking crazy pills. Its like they were just so eager to use chemical weapons against the people. Our culture is sick that this is even being debated as acceptable. We mace soldiers in basic training to prepare them for war. Think about it.

Pepper spray is minor compared to the civil disobedience when occupiers are such a disparaging group which really has no idea what they are protesting. OWS was Woodstock in the city park. There is no excuse for that in a nation of laws. When anarchy gets an inch we are wrong in giving it to them. There are ways to fight for what you wish, and occupation of city squares and streets is not it. That type of protest is counter production and the mace, pepper spray and a few cracked heads goes with the territory.

Two of my grown grand children were in New York 2 weeks ago and were amazed at the lack of order within the group, the nastiness of the park where they were staying and the uncouth actions of the protesters. They were also amazed that fewer than 1 in 5 had even a smidgen of reason for the protest. The atmosphere was more like a concert without the music, and one told me that there will probably be many cases of STDs and pregnancies show up in the coming months.

When and if there is an orderly protest for reasonable changes to our policies, ideas which relate to the real problems of income disparity, lack of health care, unfair working conditions I will join the. Under those circumstances I doubt there is a police department in the country that will even get close enough to observe. But when there are mobs of un/misinformed people simply making asses of them selves I salute our police for breaking them up and driving them out.

The OWS mob were nothing more than rabble rousers pushed by shills who hoped to gain from the disorder.

I remember well the traitors and cowards who protested the Vietnam War and the wuss politicians who allowed them to make a statement which was counter productive.
 
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The OWS mob were nothing more than rabble rousers pushed by shills who hoped to gain from the disorder.

Lenin to the Occupados:

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I guess a lot of people here just believe what the MSM and Right Wing E-media
tell them. This would be the only explanation for some of the posts I've seen.
So I thought I'd help! Here is a C&P from a great OWS site. It will give you
guys a better idea of why you should support us! Here ya go:

"1. We don't want to End Capitalism, We Want to End Corporatacracy.

First, let's make it clear, This is a political movement, not an economic
revolt. We want to end the control of our government by Multi-National
Corporations. This is Issue Number One for everyone I've spoken to in Occupy
Wall Street.

Not one Occupier I know of, wants to turn us into the former Soviet Union (although just like the TP, every movement has it's fringe and the MSM loves to find them). We
don't want to end the economic system which allows people to buy the goods of
their choice. But we do want to end a corrupt political system which allows
Multi-National Corporations to buy the politicians of their choice. So the
single most important theme is Taking control of our government away from
Corporations and putting it back into the hands of We the People.

2. We won't tolerate a government that rewards corporate incompetence, greed and
fraud. No More Bank Bailouts.

The banks bought our government and then, after they lined their pockets with
the wealth of our nation, they blackmailed the government into giving them even
MORE money "In order to keep the economy from collapsing". Right. Then, instead
of making or refinancing home loans, Bank of America, Chase, Wells Fargo and
others spent our money on business mergers & acquisitions to benefit the 1%. Oh,
and of course, they paid themselves million dollar bonuses with our money.

We want to set a deadline for payback of existing bailouts. Any company that has
not fully repaid all monies by the deadline, should be broken up so that they
are no longer "too big to fail".

3. We want the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act repealed immediately.
For those of you unfamiliar with it: After the Great Depression, congress passed
the Glass-Steagal act to make sure that banks would never take stupid risks or
use corrupt practices to send the country into another Depression. Then 60 years
later, the banks and companies that bought and paid for Republican Senators Bill
Gramm, Jim Leach and Tom Bliley told them that Glass-Steagal was interfering
with their ability to swindle the American Public. Their masters told these
senators to pass a bill that would NOT ONLY allow them to gamble foolishly again
with American Tax-Payer money - they wanted complete control of our Financial
System by being able OWN both stock brokerages and Insurance Companies too.
Then, once their cohorts completed the creation of what's called a "FIRE
Economy" (an economy based on Finance, Insurance & Real Estate) in America, they
would control everything.

Of course the Senators bowed to their masters and Gramm-Leach-Bliley was passed
with a super-majority that was veto-proof. If it had not been passed, NOT ONE
BANK would have needed bailout money because they would have been prohibited
from investing in the Commercial Mortgage Backed Securities Market.

Some people say we should let "The Market" regulate itself. Are the Banksters
worthy of the trust that was given to them under this law? Here's an example:
Citibank is on trial right now.
While they were selling over $500 MILLION dollars worth of those
toxic mortgage securities to the 99% as a good investment, they were betting the
securities would fail by "Short-Selling" at the same time. In other words, while
they sold your parents these securities for their retirement, they made a bet
the securities would fail - and earned over $140M dollars by doing so. Citibank
is currently offering to pay back about half the money they defrauded out of
regular people as long as no one from the bank goes to jail or even loses their
job. Guess what? The government is going for it. Why? Because the 1% doesn't
have to pay for their crimes. We do. In this case, WE'RE paying their $285M fee
with the bailout money they were given. And people wonder why we're mad."

That's just a small part of the REAL message of OWS. it's a little bit different
than what the SpinDoctors of the MSM and Right Wing media talk about or allow
you to see, isn't it?

The Whole World is watching and listening to our message. Foreign stations give more accurate coverage than FOX - who still spews BS about wanting Socialism and anarchy.

Here is an example of the more accurate foreign coverage of our message:

Occupy Wall Street Exposes Enormous Corruption Between Government and Corporations - YouTube


Oh--I think we're starting to understand this---:cuckoo:

Tab to taxpayers for Occupy Denver security now close to $800,000 -
Tab to taxpayers for Occupy Denver security now close to $800,000 - The Denver Post

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Obey the Gestapo or else! Is this what Americans really want from their Police Force. People should think about that a bit more before answering.

Since the Gestapo was the secret police of Hitler's Nazi Party, one could make the point that "you" should think about what you're accusing our police of being, Paul. It's an unfair charactorization and I think you know it.

I'm speaking more to the mentality of most Americans these days. They're just so entrenched in their Authority-Worship that they have given the Police too much power & control. And the German People also worshipped their Gestapo this way. The Government/Police are often wrong and it's vital we call them on it every single time. There is no need to bow,worship,and defend them. Citizens are not required to do that. They actually do work for us. They're supposed to be our equals. They are not superior in any way. We desperately need to reverse this Authority-Worship course we're on.

With all respect, Paul? I don't think the Germans "worshipped" their Gestapo. The majority of them lived in fear of it. I repeat, calling our police Gestapo is way out of bounds. The Gestapo did things that would make a billy goat puke...our police look like a bunch of Girl Scouts by comparison.

As for Americans suffering from "Authority-Worship"? I've got to be honest with you...I think respect for authority could be at an all time low these days. You might have had a valid point back in the 50's but those days are long gone and hard to find.
 
Since the Gestapo was the secret police of Hitler's Nazi Party, one could make the point that "you" should think about what you're accusing our police of being, Paul. It's an unfair charactorization and I think you know it.

I'm speaking more to the mentality of most Americans these days. They're just so entrenched in their Authority-Worship that they have given the Police too much power & control. And the German People also worshipped their Gestapo this way. The Government/Police are often wrong and it's vital we call them on it every single time. There is no need to bow,worship,and defend them. Citizens are not required to do that. They actually do work for us. They're supposed to be our equals. They are not superior in any way. We desperately need to reverse this Authority-Worship course we're on.

With all respect, Paul? I don't think the Germans "worshipped" their Gestapo. The majority of them lived in fear of it. I repeat, calling our police Gestapo is way out of bounds. The Gestapo did things that would make a billy goat puke...our police look like a bunch of Girl Scouts by comparison.

As for Americans suffering from "Authority-Worship"? I've got to be honest with you...I think respect for authority could be at an all time low these days. You might have had a valid point back in the 50's but those days are long gone and hard to find.

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For Those Who Don't Understand What Occupy is REALLY About (Obviously LOTS of you

Here is the Occupy Philadelphia Livestream. Very entertaining. And for those supporters who argue that the media is misrepresenting them, I suggest people take a look/see at these livestream reports. Yesterday, they all smoked dope in celebration of 4:20 a.m. This morning they chanted in unison about "global revolution" just like good little Hitler youth. Fascinating shit. Of course, the hundreds parroting in "mic check" don't "really" speak for the group, right? :cuckoo:

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Occupy L.A.

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Occupy NYC

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For Those Who Don't Understand What Occupy is REALLY About (Obviously LOTS of you

Here is the Occupy Philadelphia Livestream. Very entertaining. And for those supporters who argue that the media is misrepresenting them, I suggest people take a look/see at these livestream reports. Yesterday, they all smoked dope in celebration of 4:20 a.m. This morning they chanted in unison about "global revolution" just like good little Hitler youth. Fascinating shit. Of course, the hundreds parroting in "mic check" don't "really" speak for the group, right? :cuckoo:

OccupyPhiladelphia - live streaming video powered by Livestream

Occupy L.A.

Occupy Wall Street Los Angeles - live streaming video powered by Livestream

Occupy NYC

Occupy Wall St NYC - live streaming video powered by Livestream

That's swell. Here's the difference between you and me:
I acknowledge there are some real useless whackjobs in the group.
You are unable to acknowledge that there are those of us in the group who are different.

Would I say ALL Tea Partiers share every single view of Michele Bachman.... Nah. I'm not that stupid or weak.
I've met and interacted with Tea Partiers who were obviously different. Right here, as a matter of fact. Would I be too afraid to acknowledge they exist? Of course not.

You may now continue trying to prove I don't exist....
 

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