GOP revives rule allowing $1 salaries for government employees

[sealybobo]

Forget the $1 rule for politicians. How about every other year instead of the CEO getting the bonus the workers get it. Or split the profits 50% to executives 50% to workers. another $20 million they give employees the bonus?

/---- It's none of your business what companies pay their CEOs. It's not taxpayer money, Fidel.

Then don't complain workers aren't doing as well now as they used to. You sent all those high paying jobs overseas and non union companies only give profit sharing and raises to executives.

You will never make America great again for blue collar. Not like my dad who worked for Ford. He had it real good. Those days are over for blue collar. At least the low skilled ones. Those are the people trumps going to disappoint

Robots now make fords.

Here's the other thing happening people don't realize is happening. Companies are subcontracting jobs to 3rd party companies.

In the past 35% workers were unions. In the future 35% will be temps.

This coming from a person that doesn't belong to a union and won't form one at his place of employment.


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I work for a surprisingly liberal place. Even the president defends unions. We knock them too but he understands their importance. Do you?

I've worked for places I would have love to unionize. But they would just fire you and would the sheep sign up or be told their job will go to Texas? One place actually did cut half our staff then opened up a competitor in Texas we would compete against. Sad. Too many bad places to work.

 

[sealybobo]

Everyone's perspective is different. If you loved every place you've ever worked you'll think differently

 

[rightwinger]

so? is there something wrong with a loan from a parent to a child? Ive gave my daughter 50k for a down payment on her house, did I do something wrong? should I have sent that money to some poor liberal family instead? Not sure exactly what your problem is here. (although I do understand that it is yet another attempt at discrediting Donald Trump)

I fail to see how loaning your children money entitles government to anything from them or me.

what a coincidence. it is about capital, opportunities under Any form of Capitalism. what is wrong with getting it from Uncle Sam, if daddy is not, forthcoming.

whats wrong with getting it from uncle same? uncle sam has no money, that money is taken from the taxpayer, the taxpayer should not be on the hook to cover the bills of a select group of lazy people.
Certainly even you can see that Uncle Sam has no money of its own.

Uncle Sam is We the People

We the People take care of the less fortunate

we the people should all be contributing to society. Those that dont have no value to us and should not be here.

Especially a billionaire President

 

[Papageorgio]

/---- It's none of your business what companies pay their CEOs. It's not taxpayer money, Fidel.

Then don't complain workers aren't doing as well now as they used to. You sent all those high paying jobs overseas and non union companies only give profit sharing and raises to executives.

You will never make America great again for blue collar. Not like my dad who worked for Ford. He had it real good. Those days are over for blue collar. At least the low skilled ones. Those are the people trumps going to disappoint

Robots now make fords.

Here's the other thing happening people don't realize is happening. Companies are subcontracting jobs to 3rd party companies.

In the past 35% workers were unions. In the future 35% will be temps.

This coming from a person that doesn't belong to a union and won't form one at his place of employment.


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I work for a surprisingly liberal place. Even the president defends unions. We knock them too but he understands their importance. Do you?

I've worked for places I would have love to unionize. But they would just fire you and would the sheep sign up or be told their job will go to Texas? One place actually did cut half our staff then opened up a competitor in Texas we would compete against. Sad. Too many bad places to work.

Man you don't remember anything I post do you? If you want to unionize so be, I really don't care either way. Collective bargaining is fine unless you are a public employee. I agree with FDR Truman and Kennedy, public sector unions should not be allowed to have collective bargaining.

 

[danielpalos]

Providing for the general welfare is in our federal Constitution.

You still haven't proved it is just to take money from me.

Congress has the Power to Tax and take money from you. Any other right wing, fantasy diversions?

Yeah, and Hitler killed 6 million Jews. Your point?

that you don't have one, only diversions.

an army group in reserve, would have been superior.

Your point seems to be that whatever government does is just. Hitler had the same point of view.

i will try to keep it simple for you. socialism requires Good planning and not Bad planning.

an army group in reserve, would have been superior.

 

[danielpalos]

Not sure what your point is. Corporate welfare, does what you claim of the poor.

How about you humor me and tell me about this corporate welfare, what (in your own words) is it.

Subsidies for Capitalists of wealth.

In what way, give me a specific example.

Any artificial Persons that receive funds from the government, to advance public policy decisions.

The right wing Only complains when real Persons get checks.

He asked for an example, dumbass.

Any artificial Persons that receive funds from the government, to advance public policy decisions. Only the right wing never gets it.

Artificial persons don't complain about paying our taxes.

 

[danielpalos]

How about you humor me and tell me about this corporate welfare, what (in your own words) is it.

Subsidies for Capitalists of wealth.

In what way, give me a specific example.

Any artificial Persons that receive funds from the government, to advance public policy decisions.

The right wing Only complains when real Persons get checks.

He asked for an example, dumbass.

Hes giving me exactly what I expected.
Proof that he is spewing a talking point without any clue what so ever what he is saying.
basically, proof that he is the typical uninformed liberal.

not at all; you are merely special pleading due to Your not having a valid argument. quibbling is not the same actually having another valid argument and rationale.

 

[bripat9643]

You still haven't proved it is just to take money from me.

Congress has the Power to Tax and take money from you. Any other right wing, fantasy diversions?

Yeah, and Hitler killed 6 million Jews. Your point?

that you don't have one, only diversions.

an army group in reserve, would have been superior.

Your point seems to be that whatever government does is just. Hitler had the same point of view.

i will try to keep it simple for you. socialism requires Good planning and not Bad planning.

an army group in reserve, would have been superior.

Planning is impossible under socialism. That's why it never works.

 

[bripat9643]

How about you humor me and tell me about this corporate welfare, what (in your own words) is it.

Subsidies for Capitalists of wealth.

In what way, give me a specific example.

Any artificial Persons that receive funds from the government, to advance public policy decisions.

The right wing Only complains when real Persons get checks.

He asked for an example, dumbass.

Any artificial Persons that receive funds from the government, to advance public policy decisions. Only the right wing never gets it.

Artificial persons don't complain about paying our taxes.

He asked for an example, dumbass.

 

[danielpalos]

Congress has the Power to Tax and take money from you. Any other right wing, fantasy diversions?

Yeah, and Hitler killed 6 million Jews. Your point?

that you don't have one, only diversions.

an army group in reserve, would have been superior.

Your point seems to be that whatever government does is just. Hitler had the same point of view.

i will try to keep it simple for you. socialism requires Good planning and not Bad planning.

an army group in reserve, would have been superior.

Planning is impossible under socialism. That's why it never works.

just being fantastical? only reason Nazi Germany accomplished what they did, was due to socialism on a national basis.

 

[danielpalos]

Subsidies for Capitalists of wealth.

In what way, give me a specific example.

Any artificial Persons that receive funds from the government, to advance public policy decisions.

The right wing Only complains when real Persons get checks.

He asked for an example, dumbass.

Any artificial Persons that receive funds from the government, to advance public policy decisions. Only the right wing never gets it.

Artificial persons don't complain about paying our taxes.

He asked for an example, dumbass.

corporate bailouts due to a public policy that claims, capitalism should be suspended in favor of socialism, when you are deemed, "too big to fail capitally".

 

[rightwinger]

Then don't complain workers aren't doing as well now as they used to. You sent all those high paying jobs overseas and non union companies only give profit sharing and raises to executives.

You will never make America great again for blue collar. Not like my dad who worked for Ford. He had it real good. Those days are over for blue collar. At least the low skilled ones. Those are the people trumps going to disappoint

Robots now make fords.

Here's the other thing happening people don't realize is happening. Companies are subcontracting jobs to 3rd party companies.

In the past 35% workers were unions. In the future 35% will be temps.

This coming from a person that doesn't belong to a union and won't form one at his place of employment.


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I work for a surprisingly liberal place. Even the president defends unions. We knock them too but he understands their importance. Do you?

I've worked for places I would have love to unionize. But they would just fire you and would the sheep sign up or be told their job will go to Texas? One place actually did cut half our staff then opened up a competitor in Texas we would compete against. Sad. Too many bad places to work.

Man you don't remember anything I post do you? If you want to unionize so be, I really don't care either way. Collective bargaining is fine unless you are a public employee. I agree with FDR Truman and Kennedy, public sector unions should not be allowed to have collective bargaining.

They do have the right to collectively bargain

They don't have a right to strike

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Subsidies for Capitalists of wealth.

In what way, give me a specific example.

Any artificial Persons that receive funds from the government, to advance public policy decisions.

The right wing Only complains when real Persons get checks.

He asked for an example, dumbass.

Hes giving me exactly what I expected.
Proof that he is spewing a talking point without any clue what so ever what he is saying.
basically, proof that he is the typical uninformed liberal.

not at all; you are merely special pleading due to Your not having a valid argument. quibbling is not the same actually having another valid argument and rationale.

actually you are unable to give me a specific real example of corporate welfare, mainly because it does not exist, there is no such thing. It does not happen.
its only a made up phrase meant to take the focus away from the ghetto rats that are draining this country. However if I am wrong, then I look forward to your link that will prove this.
In the mean time, you lose, you have no idea what you are talking about, and I suspect that the majority of what you spew is nothing more than talking points that you dont understand.

 

[danielpalos]

In what way, give me a specific example.

Any artificial Persons that receive funds from the government, to advance public policy decisions.

The right wing Only complains when real Persons get checks.

He asked for an example, dumbass.

Hes giving me exactly what I expected.
Proof that he is spewing a talking point without any clue what so ever what he is saying.
basically, proof that he is the typical uninformed liberal.

not at all; you are merely special pleading due to Your not having a valid argument. quibbling is not the same actually having another valid argument and rationale.

actually you are unable to give me a specific real example of corporate welfare, mainly because it does not exist, there is no such thing. It does not happen.
its only a made up phrase meant to take the focus away from the ghetto rats that are draining this country. However if I am wrong, then I look forward to your link that will prove this.
In the mean time, you lose, you have no idea what you are talking about, and I suspect that the majority of what you spew is nothing more than talking points that you dont understand.

I cited wikipedia. you have nothing but appeals to your authority. you have nothing but fallacy; whom do you think, i should believe.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Any artificial Persons that receive funds from the government, to advance public policy decisions.

The right wing Only complains when real Persons get checks.

He asked for an example, dumbass.

Hes giving me exactly what I expected.
Proof that he is spewing a talking point without any clue what so ever what he is saying.
basically, proof that he is the typical uninformed liberal.

not at all; you are merely special pleading due to Your not having a valid argument. quibbling is not the same actually having another valid argument and rationale.

actually you are unable to give me a specific real example of corporate welfare, mainly because it does not exist, there is no such thing. It does not happen.
its only a made up phrase meant to take the focus away from the ghetto rats that are draining this country. However if I am wrong, then I look forward to your link that will prove this.
In the mean time, you lose, you have no idea what you are talking about, and I suspect that the majority of what you spew is nothing more than talking points that you dont understand.

I cited wikipedia. you have nothing but appeals to your authority. you have nothing but fallacy; whom do you think, i should believe.

wikipedia? LOL
Let me clue you in sparky, wikipedia is not a valid source when trying to prove a point of any type. I will wait and see if you can figure this out. Or maybe I will just make something to prove you are wrong and post it on wikipedia.
but to top it off, that garble that you spewed did not link to any specific example of corporate welfare. So I am still waiting.
You could just admit that you have no idea and move on with whatever dignity you are able to salvage, which at this point is not much.

 

[danielpalos]

He asked for an example, dumbass.

Hes giving me exactly what I expected.
Proof that he is spewing a talking point without any clue what so ever what he is saying.
basically, proof that he is the typical uninformed liberal.

not at all; you are merely special pleading due to Your not having a valid argument. quibbling is not the same actually having another valid argument and rationale.

actually you are unable to give me a specific real example of corporate welfare, mainly because it does not exist, there is no such thing. It does not happen.
its only a made up phrase meant to take the focus away from the ghetto rats that are draining this country. However if I am wrong, then I look forward to your link that will prove this.
In the mean time, you lose, you have no idea what you are talking about, and I suspect that the majority of what you spew is nothing more than talking points that you dont understand.

I cited wikipedia. you have nothing but appeals to your authority. you have nothing but fallacy; whom do you think, i should believe.

wikipedia? LOL
Let me clue you in sparky, wikipedia is not a valid source when trying to prove a point of any type. I will wait and see if you can figure this out. Or maybe I will just make something to prove you are wrong and post it on wikipedia.
but to top it off, that garble that you spewed did not link to any specific example of corporate welfare. So I am still waiting.
You could just admit that you have no idea and move on with whatever dignity you are able to salvage, which at this point is not much.

look sparky, you are even less of a source than wikipedia. it really is that simple.

 

[hangover]

If you're a maker not a taker why are you complaining? The only ones still hurting from bush great recession are poorly educated blue collar. The Republicans aren't going to really help you

He's carrying the load for you, douche bag. That's why he's complaining.

Bullshit boot licker. If anyone's getting hosed it's us middle class.

The government hoses everyone except the poor. You're trying to justify it.

You really think the poor are going to pay the national debt? Prisons are full of the poor. You have serious brain damage.

He doesn't think the rich are fucking us just the poor. Meanwhile the mega corporations are loving NAFTA and they've never been richer.

2 months ago Republicans admitted ge and all the companies like them pay no taxes. I can't stand republicans

Republicans can't even stand themselves. McCain, Graham, and the rest of congress will be fighting Trump for the next four years. Trump and the GOP defines the ugliness of this country.

 

[thereisnospoon]

If we have mediocre government employees it is because we WANTED mediocre government. Therefore we cut salaries, thus not attracting any but mediocre employees.

You don't set salary based on what you have - you set it on the basis of what you want.

This is just capitalism. Every corporation knows this stuff.

We have mediocre government employees because of A. a lack of accountability to the public and B. affirmative action hiring.

C. unrealistic rules protecting federal workers from being terminated

 

[thereisnospoon]

Unemployment is already currently 15-20%. Anyone who's buying their current 5% number, must also believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Clause.

it is why we need unemployment compensation, simply for being unemployed in our at-will employment States.

it already exists. For 12 to 24 weeks. Then you get your ass back to work.
Again you refer to "we"...

it is why we need unemployment compensation, simply for being unemployed in our at-will employment States.

those of us it applies to.

What does at will employment have to do with anything?

 

[thereisnospoon]

You guys want to "make America great again". My dad back in 1960's went from high school to Ford. He was one of those poorly educated blue collar workers trump promised he would bring their good jobs back. He lied. No way jobs will ever be this good again. My dad was paid well, great benefits, had job security because of the union, got profit sharing and a pension because of the union too. Amazing medical benefits too.

Trump will never make America that great again. Maybe he will make us better than we are right now but America middle class will never be as good as us liberals created with unions labor laws and new deals. The rich won the class warfare you didn't even know was happening

The unions sucked the life out of those companies paying the benefits. Auto companies were paying more in pensions than they were on steel. The unions were vampires sucking the life out of the companies that employed them. As with all parasites, when the host dies, so does the union parasite.

Just a few years ago we saw it happen with Hostess. The company begged the union to let the company survive. The union said no. Where did they think the money was going to come from?

Hostess closed. Sold off the recipes and the owners pocketed a few million. No comfort for the deservedly unemployed union members.

not this right wing fantasy, again.

Hostess merely had, lousy capital management that was overpriced under Any form of True capitalism. Management compensation should have been cut to cover the short fall, not Labor compensation. It was not a labor issue, it was a management issue and they should have taken responsibility instead of simply blamed Labor.

Not this fascist left wing fantasy again....

Unions celebrated killing their jobs,...fuck them...only true capitalism will stop you fascists....

Without unions, this country would not have health benefits, week ends, minimum wage, over time, vacations, or a 40 hour work week. Cons are the fascists, and you know it.

When it comes to the poor im starting to agree with Republicans. The poo, in general, are bad citizens and wwe're subsodizing it.

But when it comes to workers I agree with liberals. Republicans would make us all poor if they could. Labor isn't an asset to them its an expense.

Labor is a commodity. And labor is also in part a liability and in part an asset.
The balance is struck when labor is an asset equal to or more desirable greater than its liability