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If the GOP allows the govt. to shutdown and the USA to default on its debt, all due to ObamaCare, they will pay the price in November 2014.
Hoffstra? Surrender. Your betters have HIJACKED your thread. Run along now little boy. Your creds are ZERO.
BYE...Don't let the door hit you in the caboose on the way out.
The FLAG is planted...
Ahh yes..Let the spin begin..Nice try. won't wash. The House sent a legitimate budget proposal up to the Senate. Sans funding for Obamacare. A law that has very little support, save for democrats loyal to Obama. So, the Senate has two options. Pass what was sent to them and keep the government running or they can reject the plan and shut down the government.Republicans want to shut down the Federal government and default on our national debt.
I wonder what the financial results of this will be.
I wonder what the election results in 2014, will be.
Gee, seems like the Republicans have become suicidal.
It's their choice.
The people have spoken. Their representatives have listened. There were democrats in the House that voted for the House proposal. It has bi-partisan support.
I think the Senate will cut a deal to delay the start of Obamacare because there are so many democrats who are stepping away from supporting this thing.
So the ball is in the Senate's court. They can take it and cut a deal or they can shut down the government.
the proper way to kill a program, or Federal agency, or Federal dept., is to pass legislation that kills the program.
holding a continuing resolution hostage isn't the way to do it.
The American people understand this.
if the Dems give in now, next year the Republicans will do the exact same thing with the EPA, FEMA, the Department of Education, etc etc.
wrong again. defunding happens all the time.
go tell your mom you need a civics book for 5th graders.
So whats next defund education? Social security? Military benefits?
Where does it end?
wrong again. defunding happens all the time.
go tell your mom you need a civics book for 5th graders.
So whats next defund education? Social security? Military benefits?
Where does it end?
logical fallacy. where does your logic begin?
I really hope they shut down all non-essential parts of this government for at least a week or two. Only then may some of use come to the realization that we don't really need the excess spending we are doing. Just look at the claimed disaster that would befall us due to sequestration. What happened? Nothing of consequence. We "lived" on government spending levels that were 40% less under the Clinton Administration. We should do our best to get spending back to those levels. Note: This has nothing to do with SS/Medicare which are funded pension plans that have nothing to do with this debate.
If the GOP wants to rescope the size of Government, then do it. They never manage to to it when they are calling the shots
But to arbitrarily shut down government after a summers worth of furloughs for no reason other than temper tantrums and inability to get along with others is despicable
Arbitrarily? ROFL Obuma care was never approved by the house, it was an unfunded Senate vote. The house owns funding. Don't like it? Start a revolution, win the war, then write a new constitution.
Ahh yes...The old all or nothing straw man approach..the proper way to kill a program, or Federal agency, or Federal dept., is to pass legislation that kills the program.
holding a continuing resolution hostage isn't the way to do it.
The American people understand this.
if the Dems give in now, next year the Republicans will do the exact same thing with the EPA, FEMA, the Department of Education, etc etc.
wrong again. defunding happens all the time.
go tell your mom you need a civics book for 5th graders.
So whats next defund education? Social security? Military benefits?
Where does it end?
the proper way to kill a program, or Federal agency, or Federal dept., is to pass legislation that kills the program.
holding a continuing resolution hostage isn't the way to do it.
The American people understand this.
if the Dems give in now, next year the Republicans will do the exact same thing with the EPA, FEMA, the Department of Education, etc etc.
wrong again. defunding happens all the time.
go tell your mom you need a civics book for 5th graders.
So whats next defund education? Social security? Military benefits?
Where does it end?
If the GOP wants to rescope the size of Government, then do it. They never manage to to it when they are calling the shots
But to arbitrarily shut down government after a summers worth of furloughs for no reason other than temper tantrums and inability to get along with others is despicable
Arbitrarily? ROFL Obuma care was never approved by the house, it was an unfunded Senate vote. The house owns funding. Don't like it? Start a revolution, win the war, then write a new constitution.
Where you in a coma during 2009 and 2010?
Obamacare was approved in both the House and Senate
I even remember Obama signing it into law
Tried to warn him...Hoffstra? Surrender. Your betters have HIJACKED your thread. Run along now little boy. Your creds are ZERO.
BYE...Don't let the door hit you in the caboose on the way out.
The FLAG is planted...
good show all..
another goon who spews nothing but Democrat talking points bites the dust...
Ahh yes...The old all or nothing straw man approach..wrong again. defunding happens all the time.
go tell your mom you need a civics book for 5th graders.
So whats next defund education? Social security? Military benefits?
Where does it end?
One thing...education....None of the business of the federal government.
Public education is a state and local matter...
Most federal education mandates are unfunded anyway.
The only reason for the existence of the Dept of Education is to keep employed a whole bunch of do-nothing bureaucrats who cannot be fired from their cushy over paid union jobs.
BY DEMOCRAT TYRANTS like YOU...Forget that Sewerboy? NO REPUBLICANS signed on to it...NOW WE have the call...NO FUNDING for it. It DIES NOW.If the GOP wants to rescope the size of Government, then do it. They never manage to to it when they are calling the shots
But to arbitrarily shut down government after a summers worth of furloughs for no reason other than temper tantrums and inability to get along with others is despicable
Arbitrarily? ROFL Obuma care was never approved by the house, it was an unfunded Senate vote. The house owns funding. Don't like it? Start a revolution, win the war, then write a new constitution.
Where you in a coma during 2009 and 2010?
Obamacare was approved in both the House and Senate
I even remember Obama signing it into law
wrong again. defunding happens all the time.
go tell your mom you need a civics book for 5th graders.
So whats next defund education? Social security? Military benefits?
Where does it end?
Education can, and should, be funded locally. We don't need the feds to manage our municipal services.
SS is a pension plan. It needs to be replaced with something better, but it is not federal spending, rather it is a pension plan that is fully funded, via a pyramid scheme, by the citizens and their employers.
Military benefits are payment for services rendered. No one is asking or even intimating, other than you, and the scum like you, that we should screw over our military.
DEMOCRAT TYRANTS like YOU...Forget that Sewerboy?Arbitrarily? ROFL Obuma care was never approved by the house, it was an unfunded Senate vote. The house owns funding. Don't like it? Start a revolution, win the war, then write a new constitution.
Where you in a coma during 2009 and 2010?
Obamacare was approved in both the House and Senate
I even remember Obama signing it into law
That law is about to be DEFUNDED. Get ready for it.
So whats next defund education? Social security? Military benefits?
Where does it end?
Education can, and should, be funded locally. We don't need the feds to manage our municipal services.
SS is a pension plan. It needs to be replaced with something better, but it is not federal spending, rather it is a pension plan that is fully funded, via a pyramid scheme, by the citizens and their employers.
Military benefits are payment for services rendered. No one is asking or even intimating, other than you, and the scum like you, that we should screw over our military.
Please tell me your not this thick a Government shutdown means you would be screwing over the Military royally.
The MILITARY BY LAW has to be funded...STOP with the scare tactics.So whats next defund education? Social security? Military benefits?
Where does it end?
Education can, and should, be funded locally. We don't need the feds to manage our municipal services.
SS is a pension plan. It needs to be replaced with something better, but it is not federal spending, rather it is a pension plan that is fully funded, via a pyramid scheme, by the citizens and their employers.
Military benefits are payment for services rendered. No one is asking or even intimating, other than you, and the scum like you, that we should screw over our military.
Please tell me your not this thick a Government shutdown means you would be screwing over the Military royally.
Ahh yes...The old all or nothing straw man approach..So whats next defund education? Social security? Military benefits?
Where does it end?
One thing...education....None of the business of the federal government.
Public education is a state and local matter...
Most federal education mandates are unfunded anyway.
The only reason for the existence of the Dept of Education is to keep employed a whole bunch of do-nothing bureaucrats who cannot be fired from their cushy over paid union jobs.
Post above and its not all or nothing and what about Social security you left that out.
I still believe the GOP is going about this the wrong way get the white house back in 16 and then get rid of it.
Arbitrarily? ROFL Obuma care was never approved by the house, it was an unfunded Senate vote. The house owns funding. Don't like it? Start a revolution, win the war, then write a new constitution.
Where you in a coma during 2009 and 2010?
Obamacare was approved in both the House and Senate
I even remember Obama signing it into law
Wrong. The house never approved it.
