Governor of California begs Trump admin for federal help.

[danielpalos]

"Art of the Deal"

yep owning the upper hand. the advantage. the want from your opponent. Funny cali put themselves up as an opponent rather than working with him oximoron much?

Messing with California is not a winner. Trump loses credibility across the board by every state that has to deal with him. The whole posture is ridiculous and beneath an adult who happens to be president.

Trump does not need California. I hope Republicans make California an example for what happens being such morons who fail to take care of the safety of it's people.

LOL, if you don't understand how California's economic engine affects the rest of the country you are a fool.

California can spend $68B on a train to nowhere and $25B a year giving illegals freebies, it can afford to fix a concrete spillway that failed because of neglect from Sacramento

On October 17, 2005 three environmental groups filed a motion with the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission urging federal officials to require that the dam’s emergency spillway be armored with concrete, rather than remain as an earthen spillway and that it did not meet modern safety standards. "In the event of extreme rain and flooding, fast-rising water would overwhelm the main concrete spillway, then flow down the emergency spillway, and that could cause heavy erosion that would create flooding for communities downstream, but also could cause a failure, known as 'loss of crest control.'" FERC and water agencies responsible for the cost of the upgrades said it was unnecessary and concerns were overblown.[26][27]--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oroville_Dam#2005_dam_re-licensing

 

[danielpalos]

No, it isn't. It is almost treated like an insurance problem; but, that would be illegal to our own laws as implemented if it were.

What law prohibits insurance????

See, this is the problem: you have no idea WTF you're even talking about. It's called UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE. It's called WORKMAN'S COMPENSATION INSURANCE. If you don't understand the difference between government provided social programs and insurance, it's not a surprise you rant the way you do.

Dear, our police action on drugs, is also called a drug war. Don't believe everything you are told.

If it were a true commercial venture, private insurance companies would have been, "sued into submission" a long time ago for being illegal to a federal Doctrine and State laws regarding the legal concept of employment at will.

People hesitate with a class action due to perceived, sovereign immunity of Government.

No they wouldn't have no more than you can claim fire damage in your home when you didn't have a fire. Unemployment insurance covers you when you become unemployed through no fault of your own, not when you decide you wish to quit working and collect. Nothing illegal about it.

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Just appealing to ignorance of the law? Employment is at the will of either party. It really is that simple.

Yes it is, but insurance isn't.

It is not a true insurance program; they only call it that. it is a (limited) social safety net.

 

[Richard-H]

Only the sleaziest could justify denying emergency help as pay back for any other political differences.

This is about Trump living up to his responsibilities to the American people. It's not about political tit for tat.

 

[Weatherman2020]

yep owning the upper hand. the advantage. the want from your opponent. Funny cali put themselves up as an opponent rather than working with him oximoron much?

Messing with California is not a winner. Trump loses credibility across the board by every state that has to deal with him. The whole posture is ridiculous and beneath an adult who happens to be president.

Trump does not need California. I hope Republicans make California an example for what happens being such morons who fail to take care of the safety of it's people.

LOL, if you don't understand how California's economic engine affects the rest of the country you are a fool.

California can spend $68B on a train to nowhere and $25B a year giving illegals freebies, it can afford to fix a concrete spillway that failed because of neglect from Sacramento

On October 17, 2005 three environmental groups filed a motion with the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission urging federal officials to require that the dam’s emergency spillway be armored with concrete, rather than remain as an earthen spillway and that it did not meet modern safety standards. "In the event of extreme rain and flooding, fast-rising water would overwhelm the main concrete spillway, then flow down the emergency spillway, and that could cause heavy erosion that would create flooding for communities downstream, but also could cause a failure, known as 'loss of crest control.'" FERC and water agencies responsible for the cost of the upgrades said it was unnecessary and concerns were overblown.[26][27]--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oroville_Dam#2005_dam_re-licensing

"In October 2005, as the Oroville Dam was going through a re-licensing process, the three groups filed a motion urging a federal regulatory agency to require state officials to armor the emergency spillway with concrete so that in the event of extreme rain and flooding, water would not freely cascade down and erode the hillside. The upgrade would have cost millions of dollars and no one wanted to foot the bill, said Ronald Stork, senior policy advocate for Friends of the River, one of the groups that filed the motion."

"Officials with the California Department of Water Resources, which owns and operates the dam and reservoir, then decided to use the adjacent emergency spillway for the first time since the dam was built nearly 50 years ago."

 

[Weatherman2020]

Only the sleaziest could justify denying emergency help as pay back for any other political differences.

This is about Trump living up to his responsibilities to the American people. It's not about political tit for tat.

Republicans always clean up the mess Democrats create.

 

[danielpalos]

Crazy Cali depends on other states for water, energy and food... they could never stand on their own

Food? the breadbasket for the nation? Energy? the third largest producer? Water? A desalination system and the Pacific ocean? You're the ones with problems.

Crazy Cali is a nanny state and can not be self sufficient...

The 6th largest economy of the world ......... best in the nation. You call us crazy? Can you name a state that can sustain by itself?
You are one crazy dude.

Texas has a gold reserve and creates more energy than it uses. Fully self sustaining.
Next question.

California made the top ten list; Texas didn't.

6. Gold Country (California, United States)--http://www.cmi-gold-silver.com/blog/10-most-prolific-gold-fields-in-the-world/

 

[danielpalos]

Crazy Cali depends on other states for water, energy and food... they could never stand on their own

Food? the breadbasket for the nation? Energy? the third largest producer? Water? A desalination system and the Pacific ocean? You're the ones with problems.

Crazy Cali is a nanny state and can not be self sufficient...

The 6th largest economy of the world ......... best in the nation. You call us crazy? Can you name a state that can sustain by itself?
You are one crazy dude.

Texas has a gold reserve and creates more energy than it uses. Fully self sustaining.
Next question.

doesn't California use Texas energy? haven't they always been a little short on energy?

I know they've been short on other things too. LOL

Besides having the most expensive electricity west of the Mississippi River in the continental U.S., California already has the least reliable electricity. California easily leads the nation with nearly 470 power outages a year, compared to 160 for second place Texas, which is really amazing because Texas produces 125% MORE electricity! (here). California's reliability problems will be multiplied as more wind and solar enter the power mix, intermittent resources located in remote areas that cannot be so easily transported to cities via the grid.--http://www.forbes.com/sites/judeclemente/2016/04/03/californias-growing-imported-electricity-problem/#6d27fb9be96b

We recently legalized marijuana, and expect around a billion a year in revenue. Texas wants to get one billion in gold back from the Fed.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Crazy Cali depends on other states for water, energy and food... they could never stand on their own

Food? the breadbasket for the nation? Energy? the third largest producer? Water? A desalination system and the Pacific ocean? You're the ones with problems.

Crazy Cali is a nanny state and can not be self sufficient...

The 6th largest economy of the world ......... best in the nation. You call us crazy? Can you name a state that can sustain by itself?
You are one crazy dude.

Texas has a gold reserve and creates more energy than it uses. Fully self sustaining.
Next question.

California made the top ten list; Texas didn't.

6. Gold Country (California, United States)--http://www.cmi-gold-silver.com/blog/10-most-prolific-gold-fields-in-the-world/

Gold reserves as in

Most of the gold from California has been removed, much of it sitting in Texas now.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Food? the breadbasket for the nation? Energy? the third largest producer? Water? A desalination system and the Pacific ocean? You're the ones with problems.

Crazy Cali is a nanny state and can not be self sufficient...

The 6th largest economy of the world ......... best in the nation. You call us crazy? Can you name a state that can sustain by itself?
You are one crazy dude.

Texas has a gold reserve and creates more energy than it uses. Fully self sustaining.
Next question.

doesn't California use Texas energy? haven't they always been a little short on energy?

I know they've been short on other things too. LOL

Besides having the most expensive electricity west of the Mississippi River in the continental U.S., California already has the least reliable electricity. California easily leads the nation with nearly 470 power outages a year, compared to 160 for second place Texas, which is really amazing because Texas produces 125% MORE electricity! (here). California's reliability problems will be multiplied as more wind and solar enter the power mix, intermittent resources located in remote areas that cannot be so easily transported to cities via the grid.--http://www.forbes.com/sites/judeclemente/2016/04/03/californias-growing-imported-electricity-problem/#6d27fb9be96b

We recently legalized marijuana, and expect around a billion a year in revenue. Texas wants to get one billion in gold back from the Fed.

California will only become a dump as a result of legalizing marijuana.

 

[Weatherman2020]

 

[charwin95]

Good idea! the damn dam is just protecting a bunch of Republican farmers anyway.

I don't doubt that was a position the governor took to begin with. wow, funny how things change eh?

"Art of the Deal"

yep owning the upper hand. the advantage. the want from your opponent. Funny cali put themselves up as an opponent rather than working with him oximoron much?

Messing with California is not a winner. Trump loses credibility across the board by every state that has to deal with him. The whole posture is ridiculous and beneath an adult who happens to be president.

Trump does not need California. I hope Republicans make California an example for what happens being such morons who fail to take care of the safety of it's people.

That's dumb. Really? Why don't you compare us to any of of the states from................ economy, unemployment, federal taxes, crimes, drugiest ............ to best place to visit.

 

[charwin95]

"Art of the Deal"

yep owning the upper hand. the advantage. the want from your opponent. Funny cali put themselves up as an opponent rather than working with him oximoron much?

Messing with California is not a winner. Trump loses credibility across the board by every state that has to deal with him. The whole posture is ridiculous and beneath an adult who happens to be president.

Trump does not need California. I hope Republicans make California an example for what happens being such morons who fail to take care of the safety of it's people.

LOL, if you don't understand how California's economic engine affects the rest of the country you are a fool.

California can spend $68B on a train to nowhere and $25B a year giving illegals freebies, it can afford to fix a concrete spillway that failed because of neglect from Sacramento

That's dumb #2. Since when you build a train that goes to no where?
Dumb #3. The Oroville has nothing to do with the neglect. It is has something to do nature just like those tornadoes that hit Oklahoma every year.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I don't doubt that was a position the governor took to begin with. wow, funny how things change eh?

"Art of the Deal"

yep owning the upper hand. the advantage. the want from your opponent. Funny cali put themselves up as an opponent rather than working with him oximoron much?

Messing with California is not a winner. Trump loses credibility across the board by every state that has to deal with him. The whole posture is ridiculous and beneath an adult who happens to be president.

Trump does not need California. I hope Republicans make California an example for what happens being such morons who fail to take care of the safety of it's people.

That's dumb. Really? Why don't you compare us to any of of the states from................ economy, unemployment, federal taxes, crimes, drugiest ............ to best place to visit.

Republicans win without KKKalifornia. Let them reap what they have sown.

 

[Weatherman2020]

yep owning the upper hand. the advantage. the want from your opponent. Funny cali put themselves up as an opponent rather than working with him oximoron much?

Messing with California is not a winner. Trump loses credibility across the board by every state that has to deal with him. The whole posture is ridiculous and beneath an adult who happens to be president.

Trump does not need California. I hope Republicans make California an example for what happens being such morons who fail to take care of the safety of it's people.

LOL, if you don't understand how California's economic engine affects the rest of the country you are a fool.

California can spend $68B on a train to nowhere and $25B a year giving illegals freebies, it can afford to fix a concrete spillway that failed because of neglect from Sacramento

That's dumb #2. Since when you build a train that goes to no where?
Dumb #3. The Oroville has nothing to do with the neglect. It is has something to do nature just like those tornadoes that hit Oklahoma every year.

Yes, why have Democrats decided to spend billions on a train to nowhere?
And do tell us what happened when it was brought to everyone's attention that the dam could fail.

 

[charwin95]

Ridiculous! Emergency funding through FEMA or highway funding should be withheld because of a fit of political pique? What kind of free world do you imagine here?

one that must have compliance to exist. D'oh

So because San Francisco declares itself a sanctuary city, the American citizens of Oroville must suffer the consequences? Because a municipality does one thing counter to the regime, every other municipality gets shafted due to political pique?

it's called negotiating. when is the left going to learn how?

Here's some negotiating for you. I pay federal taxes. My town is in trouble. Help us as mandated or we will withhold all revenues due to the federal government and invest that capital in local bonds to insure us against further political pressure from the next huckster buffoon in the White House.

Obastard refused aid from a hurricane and refused aid to Texas from wild fire damage. Wasn't that his decision?

Any link?
Or are you just displaying your rotten regular racist behavior again.

 

[charwin95]

I'm so old I remember him saying Trump was not my President and he would fight Trump on everything.
Of course any 3 day old infant is that old too.

The left kept saying how the California economy is so great. Then let them deal with it on their own.

We should cut off the $360+ billions we donate to federal taxes every year then will see what happens to America's economy.

The State of California does not pay a dime to DC, dufus.

Really? So where does our federal taxes go?

Learn to read, dufus.

Why? Your the one that keep babbling all these falsehood...... So I'm asking you a question. I am asking you again. where does our federal taxes go?

 

[charwin95]

Crazy Cali depends on other states for water, energy and food... they could never stand on their own

Food? the breadbasket for the nation? Energy? the third largest producer? Water? A desalination system and the Pacific ocean? You're the ones with problems.

Crazy Cali is a nanny state and can not be self sufficient...

The 6th largest economy of the world ......... best in the nation. You call us crazy? Can you name a state that can sustain by itself?
You are one crazy dude.

Texas has a gold reserve and creates more energy than it uses. Fully self sustaining.
Next question.

Really? Really?
It imports products from Mexico worth $84 billions from Mexico every year. Crops produce in Texas does not represents they can sustain by itself. What do you think is missing from Texas agricultural products?




Crops

Cotton is Texas' most valuable crop, generating 9% of the state's total agriculutural receipts and 29% of the nation's cotton revenues. Texas is the nation's #1 cotton-producer. The state named cotton their official state fiber/fabric in 1997.

Other important products in this category are greenhouse and nursery products, corn for grain, hay (#3 among the states), and wheat. Texas is a leading (#3) producer of greenhouse and nursery products (flowers, ornamental shrubs, young trees).

Other major field crops in Texas are sorghum grain (#2 among the states), peanuts, rice (#5 among the states), and cane for sugar.

The leading fruits produced in Texas are watermelons, grapefruits (official state fruit) and cantaloupes.

Important Texas vegetables include onions (official state vegetable), potatoes, and cabbages. Texas is the #1 producer of cabbages among the states.

Texas is also a leading producer of pecans (official health nut).

Mushrooms are also grown commercially in Texas.

 

[jc456]

one that must have compliance to exist. D'oh

So because San Francisco declares itself a sanctuary city, the American citizens of Oroville must suffer the consequences? Because a municipality does one thing counter to the regime, every other municipality gets shafted due to political pique?

That's the way Trumpty Dumpty thinks so that's the way he pays back his revenge.

it's called having the upper hand. It's what all of the mayors in the sanctuary cities think they have. D'oh cali just got burned. what goes around, comes around. don't you fking libs know anything?

That is how NAZI work but America doesn't work that way Dude.
I pay my federal tax and I expect help when I need help just like you paid your car insurance Dude.
Just because we don't agree with that buffoon in the White House that doesn't mean he is allowed to neglect his responsibility to the state of California which part of the USA.
But I do dare him to cut off off those funding and say no then will see how this country will turn up.

Does California have the right to neglect its responsibility to their citizens?

Did California have the responsibility to keep Christine Rousselle safe?

How about Kate Steinle?

 

[charwin95]

Crazy Cali depends on other states for water, energy and food... they could never stand on their own

Food? the breadbasket for the nation? Energy? the third largest producer? Water? A desalination system and the Pacific ocean? You're the ones with problems.

Crazy Cali is a nanny state and can not be self sufficient...

The 6th largest economy of the world ......... best in the nation. You call us crazy? Can you name a state that can sustain by itself?
You are one crazy dude.

Texas has a gold reserve and creates more energy than it uses. Fully self sustaining.
Next question.

doesn't California use Texas energy? haven't they always been a little short on energy?

I know they've been short on other things too. LOL

How can we use Texas energy?

 

[jc456]

Only the sleaziest could justify denying emergency help as pay back for any other political differences.

This is about Trump living up to his responsibilities to the American people. It's not about political tit for tat.

oh now it's not tit for tat. I'm tired of you libs thinking you are owed something. the tit for tat has been going on since Jan 20th. But what the fk you don't give two shits right? Now you don't want pay back and going to make that statement? fk off.