Homeschooling On The Rise??

[PoliticalChic]

We certainly CAN'T allow parents the right to monitor or control their children's education, in the socialist shit hole you so desire...just as was and is done in ALL totalitarian societies.

After all, it takes a village to raise a child. In your case, the village raised an idiot.

are parents of public school kids not allowed to teach, work with, or discuss education with their own children now?

The result of standardized tests tend to indicate that what you suggest, isn't happening.

 

[ogibillm]

I interacted with many children and many teachers who had different opinions. I dealt with kids of different races, nationalities, religions, economic stature. I interacted with kids from throughout the US. I also dealt with bullies, racists, druggies, jocks, nerds, homosexuals, liberals, conservatives, atheists and fundamentalists

I learned to take in information from a wide range of sources and form my own opinions

Home school kids don't get that opportunity

Another fabrication.

Today's home schooled kids can join co-ops, play sports, go to social events and dances, travel with their families and see the world that's beyond the walls of the government school classroom. Why anyone would think it is superior to stuff a kid into a room with 30 other kids and a teacher whose highest priority is to make all of them sit still and be quiet for an hour is beyond me.

You are correct.

As a member of several home school groups, we use many trips, co-ops, talent shows, science fairs, etc.

You are correct.
As a member of several home school groups, we use many trips, co-ops, talent shows, science fairs, etc.

I rest my case

And

Why anyone would think it is better to stuff a kid into a room with 30 other kids whose highest priority is to be anywhere but there and a teacher whose highest priority is to make all of them sit still and be quiet for an hour is beyond me.

so is it better to have a child in a classroom setting where they are the only priority for someone that doesn't know the subject and doesn't have teaching skills, or is it better to have them in a larger classroom setting taught by a professional with teaching skills and knowledge?

I find that frequently you attempt to engage in a discussion about which you have zero knowledge.

This post of yours certainly qualifies as such.

i find you frequently like to copy and paste a bunch of stuff that doesn't really relate, like when you copied and pasted about the classroom size of catholic private schools versus other private schools when talking about public school

what proof of that is there?

Are you seriously playing ignorant here and pretending you really don't know?

if there's proof i haven't seen it. can you provide it?

Here's just one place to start. Homeschooled Students Well-Prepared For College Study Finds

Students coming from a home school graduated college at a higher rate than their peers -- 66.7 percent compared to 57.5 percent -- and earned higher grade point averages along the way, according to a study that compared students at one doctoral university from 2004-2009.

They're also better socialized than most high school students, says Joe Kelly, anauthor and parenting expert who home-schooled his twin daughters.

"I know that sounds counterintuitive because they're not around dozens or hundreds of other kids every day, but I would argue that's why they're better socialized," Kelly says. "Many home-schoolers play on athletic teams, but they're also interactive with students of different ages."

Home-schooled students often spend less time in class, Kelly says, giving them more opportunity to get out into the world and engage with adults and teens alike.

"The socialization thing is really a nonissue for most home schoolers," he says. "They're getting a lot of it."

does the study show correlation or causation?

 

[ogibillm]

We certainly CAN'T allow parents the right to monitor or control their children's education, in the socialist shit hole you so desire...just as was and is done in ALL totalitarian societies.

After all, it takes a village to raise a child. In your case, the village raised an idiot.

are parents of public school kids not allowed to teach, work with, or discuss education with their own children now?

The result of standardized tests tend to indicate that what you suggest, isn't happening.

how so?

 

[hadit]

Another fabrication.

Today's home schooled kids can join co-ops, play sports, go to social events and dances, travel with their families and see the world that's beyond the walls of the government school classroom. Why anyone would think it is superior to stuff a kid into a room with 30 other kids and a teacher whose highest priority is to make all of them sit still and be quiet for an hour is beyond me.

You are correct.

As a member of several home school groups, we use many trips, co-ops, talent shows, science fairs, etc.

You are correct.
As a member of several home school groups, we use many trips, co-ops, talent shows, science fairs, etc.

I rest my case

And

Why anyone would think it is better to stuff a kid into a room with 30 other kids whose highest priority is to be anywhere but there and a teacher whose highest priority is to make all of them sit still and be quiet for an hour is beyond me.

so is it better to have a child in a classroom setting where they are the only priority for someone that doesn't know the subject and doesn't have teaching skills, or is it better to have them in a larger classroom setting taught by a professional with teaching skills and knowledge?

I find that frequently you attempt to engage in a discussion about which you have zero knowledge.

This post of yours certainly qualifies as such.

i find you frequently like to copy and paste a bunch of stuff that doesn't really relate, like when you copied and pasted about the classroom size of catholic private schools versus other private schools when talking about public school

what proof of that is there?

Are you seriously playing ignorant here and pretending you really don't know?

if there's proof i haven't seen it. can you provide it?

Here's just one place to start. Homeschooled Students Well-Prepared For College Study Finds

Students coming from a home school graduated college at a higher rate than their peers -- 66.7 percent compared to 57.5 percent -- and earned higher grade point averages along the way, according to a study that compared students at one doctoral university from 2004-2009.

They're also better socialized than most high school students, says Joe Kelly, anauthor and parenting expert who home-schooled his twin daughters.

"I know that sounds counterintuitive because they're not around dozens or hundreds of other kids every day, but I would argue that's why they're better socialized," Kelly says. "Many home-schoolers play on athletic teams, but they're also interactive with students of different ages."

Home-schooled students often spend less time in class, Kelly says, giving them more opportunity to get out into the world and engage with adults and teens alike.

"The socialization thing is really a nonissue for most home schoolers," he says. "They're getting a lot of it."

does the study show correlation or causation?

Read it for yourself so you can draw your own conclusions. Just in case you've forgotten, here's the link again.

http://i.bnet.com/blogs/homeschool.pdf

 

[ogibillm]

Today's home schooled kids can join co-ops, play sports, go to social events and dances, travel with their families and see the world that's beyond the walls of the government school classroom. Why anyone would think it is superior to stuff a kid into a room with 30 other kids and a teacher whose highest priority is to make all of them sit still and be quiet for an hour is beyond me.

You are correct.

As a member of several home school groups, we use many trips, co-ops, talent shows, science fairs, etc.

You are correct.
As a member of several home school groups, we use many trips, co-ops, talent shows, science fairs, etc.

I rest my case

And

Why anyone would think it is better to stuff a kid into a room with 30 other kids whose highest priority is to be anywhere but there and a teacher whose highest priority is to make all of them sit still and be quiet for an hour is beyond me.

so is it better to have a child in a classroom setting where they are the only priority for someone that doesn't know the subject and doesn't have teaching skills, or is it better to have them in a larger classroom setting taught by a professional with teaching skills and knowledge?

I find that frequently you attempt to engage in a discussion about which you have zero knowledge.

This post of yours certainly qualifies as such.

i find you frequently like to copy and paste a bunch of stuff that doesn't really relate, like when you copied and pasted about the classroom size of catholic private schools versus other private schools when talking about public school

what proof of that is there?

Are you seriously playing ignorant here and pretending you really don't know?

if there's proof i haven't seen it. can you provide it?

Here's just one place to start. Homeschooled Students Well-Prepared For College Study Finds

Students coming from a home school graduated college at a higher rate than their peers -- 66.7 percent compared to 57.5 percent -- and earned higher grade point averages along the way, according to a study that compared students at one doctoral university from 2004-2009.

They're also better socialized than most high school students, says Joe Kelly, anauthor and parenting expert who home-schooled his twin daughters.

"I know that sounds counterintuitive because they're not around dozens or hundreds of other kids every day, but I would argue that's why they're better socialized," Kelly says. "Many home-schoolers play on athletic teams, but they're also interactive with students of different ages."

Home-schooled students often spend less time in class, Kelly says, giving them more opportunity to get out into the world and engage with adults and teens alike.

"The socialization thing is really a nonissue for most home schoolers," he says. "They're getting a lot of it."

does the study show correlation or causation?

Read it for yourself so you can draw your own conclusions.

i believe it's showing correlation, not causation.
in no way does the study account for parents that have attended college, how far from home a student attends school, the economic background of the student, or even degrees pursued.

in other words i can see that at first glance it would make someone believe that homeschooled kids are doing better in college because of their homeschooling, but i just don't see the study supporting homeschooling as the cause.

 

[hadit]

You are correct.

As a member of several home school groups, we use many trips, co-ops, talent shows, science fairs, etc.

You are correct.
As a member of several home school groups, we use many trips, co-ops, talent shows, science fairs, etc.

I rest my case

And

Why anyone would think it is better to stuff a kid into a room with 30 other kids whose highest priority is to be anywhere but there and a teacher whose highest priority is to make all of them sit still and be quiet for an hour is beyond me.

so is it better to have a child in a classroom setting where they are the only priority for someone that doesn't know the subject and doesn't have teaching skills, or is it better to have them in a larger classroom setting taught by a professional with teaching skills and knowledge?

I find that frequently you attempt to engage in a discussion about which you have zero knowledge.

This post of yours certainly qualifies as such.

i find you frequently like to copy and paste a bunch of stuff that doesn't really relate, like when you copied and pasted about the classroom size of catholic private schools versus other private schools when talking about public school

Are you seriously playing ignorant here and pretending you really don't know?

if there's proof i haven't seen it. can you provide it?

Here's just one place to start. Homeschooled Students Well-Prepared For College Study Finds

Students coming from a home school graduated college at a higher rate than their peers -- 66.7 percent compared to 57.5 percent -- and earned higher grade point averages along the way, according to a study that compared students at one doctoral university from 2004-2009.

They're also better socialized than most high school students, says Joe Kelly, anauthor and parenting expert who home-schooled his twin daughters.

"I know that sounds counterintuitive because they're not around dozens or hundreds of other kids every day, but I would argue that's why they're better socialized," Kelly says. "Many home-schoolers play on athletic teams, but they're also interactive with students of different ages."

Home-schooled students often spend less time in class, Kelly says, giving them more opportunity to get out into the world and engage with adults and teens alike.

"The socialization thing is really a nonissue for most home schoolers," he says. "They're getting a lot of it."

does the study show correlation or causation?

Read it for yourself so you can draw your own conclusions.

i believe it's showing correlation, not causation.
in no way does the study account for parents that have attended college, how far from home a student attends school, the economic background of the student, or even degrees pursued.

in other words i can see that at first glance it would make someone believe that homeschooled kids are doing better in college because of their homeschooling, but i just don't see the study supporting homeschooling as the cause.

With a few exceptions, most home schooling parents care very deeply about the quality of the education their kids receive, thus ensuring their home schooled kids receive a good education. Parents who send their kids to government schools can ALSO achieve a better education for their kids if they are care deeply and are involved, but home schooling parents have more tools at their disposal to actually do something about it. The bottom line remains, parents who home school have better opportunities for their kids to get a better education. Tell you what, find a study that concludes home schooled kids do WORSE than their government schooled counterparts and post it for discussion.

 

[rightwinger]

You are correct.

As a member of several home school groups, we use many trips, co-ops, talent shows, science fairs, etc.

You are correct.
As a member of several home school groups, we use many trips, co-ops, talent shows, science fairs, etc.

I rest my case

And

Why anyone would think it is better to stuff a kid into a room with 30 other kids whose highest priority is to be anywhere but there and a teacher whose highest priority is to make all of them sit still and be quiet for an hour is beyond me.

so is it better to have a child in a classroom setting where they are the only priority for someone that doesn't know the subject and doesn't have teaching skills, or is it better to have them in a larger classroom setting taught by a professional with teaching skills and knowledge?

I find that frequently you attempt to engage in a discussion about which you have zero knowledge.

This post of yours certainly qualifies as such.

i find you frequently like to copy and paste a bunch of stuff that doesn't really relate, like when you copied and pasted about the classroom size of catholic private schools versus other private schools when talking about public school

Are you seriously playing ignorant here and pretending you really don't know?

if there's proof i haven't seen it. can you provide it?

Here's just one place to start. Homeschooled Students Well-Prepared For College Study Finds

Students coming from a home school graduated college at a higher rate than their peers -- 66.7 percent compared to 57.5 percent -- and earned higher grade point averages along the way, according to a study that compared students at one doctoral university from 2004-2009.

They're also better socialized than most high school students, says Joe Kelly, anauthor and parenting expert who home-schooled his twin daughters.

"I know that sounds counterintuitive because they're not around dozens or hundreds of other kids every day, but I would argue that's why they're better socialized," Kelly says. "Many home-schoolers play on athletic teams, but they're also interactive with students of different ages."

Home-schooled students often spend less time in class, Kelly says, giving them more opportunity to get out into the world and engage with adults and teens alike.

"The socialization thing is really a nonissue for most home schoolers," he says. "They're getting a lot of it."

does the study show correlation or causation?

Read it for yourself so you can draw your own conclusions.

i believe it's showing correlation, not causation.
in no way does the study account for parents that have attended college, how far from home a student attends school, the economic background of the student, or even degrees pursued.

in other words i can see that at first glance it would make someone believe that homeschooled kids are doing better in college because of their homeschooling, but i just don't see the study supporting homeschooling as the cause.

All it shows is that homeschoolers do better than the average student

It does not show whether homeschool students would have performed worse (or as well or better) in a public school

 

[ogibillm]

You are correct.
As a member of several home school groups, we use many trips, co-ops, talent shows, science fairs, etc.

I rest my case

And

so is it better to have a child in a classroom setting where they are the only priority for someone that doesn't know the subject and doesn't have teaching skills, or is it better to have them in a larger classroom setting taught by a professional with teaching skills and knowledge?

I find that frequently you attempt to engage in a discussion about which you have zero knowledge.

This post of yours certainly qualifies as such.

i find you frequently like to copy and paste a bunch of stuff that doesn't really relate, like when you copied and pasted about the classroom size of catholic private schools versus other private schools when talking about public school

if there's proof i haven't seen it. can you provide it?

Here's just one place to start. Homeschooled Students Well-Prepared For College Study Finds

Students coming from a home school graduated college at a higher rate than their peers -- 66.7 percent compared to 57.5 percent -- and earned higher grade point averages along the way, according to a study that compared students at one doctoral university from 2004-2009.

They're also better socialized than most high school students, says Joe Kelly, anauthor and parenting expert who home-schooled his twin daughters.

"I know that sounds counterintuitive because they're not around dozens or hundreds of other kids every day, but I would argue that's why they're better socialized," Kelly says. "Many home-schoolers play on athletic teams, but they're also interactive with students of different ages."

Home-schooled students often spend less time in class, Kelly says, giving them more opportunity to get out into the world and engage with adults and teens alike.

"The socialization thing is really a nonissue for most home schoolers," he says. "They're getting a lot of it."

does the study show correlation or causation?

Read it for yourself so you can draw your own conclusions.

i believe it's showing correlation, not causation.
in no way does the study account for parents that have attended college, how far from home a student attends school, the economic background of the student, or even degrees pursued.

in other words i can see that at first glance it would make someone believe that homeschooled kids are doing better in college because of their homeschooling, but i just don't see the study supporting homeschooling as the cause.

With a few exceptions, most home schooling parents care very deeply about the quality of the education their kids receive, thus ensuring their home schooled kids receive a good education. Parents who send their kids to government schools can ALSO achieve a better education for their kids if they are care deeply and are involved, but home schooling parents have more tools at their disposal to actually do something about it. The bottom line remains, parents who home school have better opportunities for their kids to get a better education. Tell you what, find a study that concludes home schooled kids do WORSE than their government schooled counterparts and post it for discussion.

i'd say home schooled kids have different tools available, not better

 

[Samson]

Home schooling is a great option for many parents. You get to control all the information your children are subjected to and they don't have to go to school with negroes or poor people

More demonizing and racism from a leftist fool.

Lets cut to the chase..

Homeschool parents declare....I am such a great parent, I homeschool my child because I want my child to receive the best education possible

In reality, they homeschool because they are afraid their child may be exposed to ideas the parents don't support and "God forbid" they are exposed to negroes, gays, hispanics, poor kids, atheists and even worse......liberals

So what?

 

[Samson]

All it shows is that homeschoolers do better than the average student

It does not show whether homeschool students would have performed worse (or as well or better) in a public school

Data shows that homeschooled kids learned what they needed to learn to do well on the test that generated the data.

The test is given to measure learning.

Homeschooled kids score higher on the test: they learn more.

What's the problem? You have a problem with kids learning more?

 

[ogibillm]

All it shows is that homeschoolers do better than the average student

It does not show whether homeschool students would have performed worse (or as well or better) in a public school

Data shows that homeschooled kids learned what they needed to learn to do well on the test that generated the data.

The test is given to measure learning.

Homeschooled kids score higher on the test: they learn more.

What's the problem? You have a problem with kids learning more?

the problem is claiming that they score better because they were homeschooled. that may or may not be the case, but it hasn't been proven here that the cause of better performance is homeschooling.

 

[rightwinger]

All it shows is that homeschoolers do better than the average student

It does not show whether homeschool students would have performed worse (or as well or better) in a public school

Data shows that homeschooled kids learned what they needed to learn to do well on the test that generated the data.

The test is given to measure learning.

Homeschooled kids score higher on the test: they learn more.

What's the problem? You have a problem with kids learning more?

No...I have a problem with your conclusions

A homeschooled kid with educated parents who are involved in his education will perform better than average whether he is homeschooled or in a public school

 

[Andylusion]

http://i.bnet.com/blogs/homeschool.pdf

Perfect example of what I'm talking about. Complete crap. Clearly that document is cheery picking evidence by using all the recent data, and we know how doing that skews the results.

Second, the time frame is clearly, and obviously being skewed because 2004 to 2009, Bush was president, and we know all research was skewed by Bush being president. Obama was only in office for 1 of the years the researched covered, and clearly would have shown much different results if more Obama years had been counted.

Third, the research included Catholic schools, and by merely including such religious institution, it calls into question all the other data used, since we all know 'thou shalt not learn' is part of the catechism. Therefore the fact people from a religious based learning institution, had higher average marks than public schools, we know this is not possible, and therefore all the data is invalidated.

Lastly, the entire paper is completely discredited by focusing on ACT scores of Math, English, Writing, and Science. The very fact that they focused on such outdated topics, instead of ACT Environmentalism, Multiculturalism, Ebonics, Common Core.

Seriously, how can you post this tripe, and expect us to take it seriously?

 

[hadit]

You are correct.
As a member of several home school groups, we use many trips, co-ops, talent shows, science fairs, etc.

I rest my case

And

so is it better to have a child in a classroom setting where they are the only priority for someone that doesn't know the subject and doesn't have teaching skills, or is it better to have them in a larger classroom setting taught by a professional with teaching skills and knowledge?

I find that frequently you attempt to engage in a discussion about which you have zero knowledge.

This post of yours certainly qualifies as such.

i find you frequently like to copy and paste a bunch of stuff that doesn't really relate, like when you copied and pasted about the classroom size of catholic private schools versus other private schools when talking about public school

if there's proof i haven't seen it. can you provide it?

Here's just one place to start. Homeschooled Students Well-Prepared For College Study Finds

Students coming from a home school graduated college at a higher rate than their peers -- 66.7 percent compared to 57.5 percent -- and earned higher grade point averages along the way, according to a study that compared students at one doctoral university from 2004-2009.

They're also better socialized than most high school students, says Joe Kelly, anauthor and parenting expert who home-schooled his twin daughters.

"I know that sounds counterintuitive because they're not around dozens or hundreds of other kids every day, but I would argue that's why they're better socialized," Kelly says. "Many home-schoolers play on athletic teams, but they're also interactive with students of different ages."

Home-schooled students often spend less time in class, Kelly says, giving them more opportunity to get out into the world and engage with adults and teens alike.

"The socialization thing is really a nonissue for most home schoolers," he says. "They're getting a lot of it."

does the study show correlation or causation?

Read it for yourself so you can draw your own conclusions.

i believe it's showing correlation, not causation.
in no way does the study account for parents that have attended college, how far from home a student attends school, the economic background of the student, or even degrees pursued.

in other words i can see that at first glance it would make someone believe that homeschooled kids are doing better in college because of their homeschooling, but i just don't see the study supporting homeschooling as the cause.

All it shows is that homeschoolers do better than the average student

It does not show whether homeschool students would have performed worse (or as well or better) in a public school

Irrelevant. To make that claim plausible, you have to accept the idea that rural students are generally superior in intellect than urban students. I don't accept that.

 

[hadit]

And
I find that frequently you attempt to engage in a discussion about which you have zero knowledge.

This post of yours certainly qualifies as such.

i find you frequently like to copy and paste a bunch of stuff that doesn't really relate, like when you copied and pasted about the classroom size of catholic private schools versus other private schools when talking about public school

Here's just one place to start. Homeschooled Students Well-Prepared For College Study Finds

does the study show correlation or causation?

Read it for yourself so you can draw your own conclusions.

i believe it's showing correlation, not causation.
in no way does the study account for parents that have attended college, how far from home a student attends school, the economic background of the student, or even degrees pursued.

in other words i can see that at first glance it would make someone believe that homeschooled kids are doing better in college because of their homeschooling, but i just don't see the study supporting homeschooling as the cause.

With a few exceptions, most home schooling parents care very deeply about the quality of the education their kids receive, thus ensuring their home schooled kids receive a good education. Parents who send their kids to government schools can ALSO achieve a better education for their kids if they are care deeply and are involved, but home schooling parents have more tools at their disposal to actually do something about it. The bottom line remains, parents who home school have better opportunities for their kids to get a better education. Tell you what, find a study that concludes home schooled kids do WORSE than their government schooled counterparts and post it for discussion.

i'd say home schooled kids have different tools available, not better

Well, they have parents who are willing to do a LOT of hard work educating them. I'd say that's a far superior tool than what a lot of government schooled kids have.

 

[ogibillm]

i find you frequently like to copy and paste a bunch of stuff that doesn't really relate, like when you copied and pasted about the classroom size of catholic private schools versus other private schools when talking about public school
does the study show correlation or causation?

Read it for yourself so you can draw your own conclusions.

i believe it's showing correlation, not causation.
in no way does the study account for parents that have attended college, how far from home a student attends school, the economic background of the student, or even degrees pursued.

in other words i can see that at first glance it would make someone believe that homeschooled kids are doing better in college because of their homeschooling, but i just don't see the study supporting homeschooling as the cause.

With a few exceptions, most home schooling parents care very deeply about the quality of the education their kids receive, thus ensuring their home schooled kids receive a good education. Parents who send their kids to government schools can ALSO achieve a better education for their kids if they are care deeply and are involved, but home schooling parents have more tools at their disposal to actually do something about it. The bottom line remains, parents who home school have better opportunities for their kids to get a better education. Tell you what, find a study that concludes home schooled kids do WORSE than their government schooled counterparts and post it for discussion.

i'd say home schooled kids have different tools available, not better

Well, they have parents who are willing to do a LOT of hard work educating them. I'd say that's a far superior tool than what a lot of government schooled kids have.

so those parents, if they were to send their kids to public school, would not work to help their education? doesn't that seem silly

 

[hadit]

All it shows is that homeschoolers do better than the average student

It does not show whether homeschool students would have performed worse (or as well or better) in a public school

Data shows that homeschooled kids learned what they needed to learn to do well on the test that generated the data.

The test is given to measure learning.

Homeschooled kids score higher on the test: they learn more.

What's the problem? You have a problem with kids learning more?

the problem is claiming that they score better because they were homeschooled. that may or may not be the case, but it hasn't been proven here that the cause of better performance is homeschooling.

Like I said before, find a study that concludes the cause of their superior performance is NOT home schooling and we'll discuss it. I find it amusing that we are supposed to believe on the one hand that ignorant, poorly educated parents are attempting to home school their kids and doing a bad job of it, while on the other hand, the home schooled kids are superior in some way to the ones trapped in failing government schools.

 

[PoliticalChic]

All it shows is that homeschoolers do better than the average student

It does not show whether homeschool students would have performed worse (or as well or better) in a public school

Data shows that homeschooled kids learned what they needed to learn to do well on the test that generated the data.

The test is given to measure learning.

Homeschooled kids score higher on the test: they learn more.

What's the problem? You have a problem with kids learning more?

the problem is claiming that they score better because they were homeschooled. that may or may not be the case, but it hasn't been proven here that the cause of better performance is homeschooling.

Like I said before, find a study that concludes the cause of their superior performance is NOT home schooling and we'll discuss it. I find it amusing that we are supposed to believe on the one hand that ignorant, poorly educated parents are attempting to home school their kids and doing a bad job of it, while on the other hand, the home schooled kids are superior in some way to the ones trapped in failing government schools.

Can you see why our Leftist pals will never accept your conclusion?

If they did, the only proper response by government would be vouchers.....and then where would the Democrat Party be?

 

[hadit]

Read it for yourself so you can draw your own conclusions.

i believe it's showing correlation, not causation.
in no way does the study account for parents that have attended college, how far from home a student attends school, the economic background of the student, or even degrees pursued.

in other words i can see that at first glance it would make someone believe that homeschooled kids are doing better in college because of their homeschooling, but i just don't see the study supporting homeschooling as the cause.

With a few exceptions, most home schooling parents care very deeply about the quality of the education their kids receive, thus ensuring their home schooled kids receive a good education. Parents who send their kids to government schools can ALSO achieve a better education for their kids if they are care deeply and are involved, but home schooling parents have more tools at their disposal to actually do something about it. The bottom line remains, parents who home school have better opportunities for their kids to get a better education. Tell you what, find a study that concludes home schooled kids do WORSE than their government schooled counterparts and post it for discussion.

i'd say home schooled kids have different tools available, not better

Well, they have parents who are willing to do a LOT of hard work educating them. I'd say that's a far superior tool than what a lot of government schooled kids have.

so those parents, if they were to send their kids to public school, would not work to help their education? doesn't that seem silly

I'll quote myself,

Parents who send their kids to government schools can ALSO achieve a better education for their kids if they are care deeply and are involved

but you would have to prove that those same kids can get the same high quality education in the failed government schools. Would they be allowed to leap two grades ahead in one subject while catching up in another? Would they be allowed to pursue interests that don't coincide with the priorities of the teacher, the principal, the school board and the bureaucrats in DC? No.

The home schooling parent has the flexibility to educate their children in the manner that works the best for the children instead of warehousing them and trying to pound square pegs into round holes. Instead of drugging a kid with ADD, let him get up and run around every 10 minutes or so. He'll be happier, calmer, and better able to focus. You can't do that in a classroom where one teacher has to make 30 kids sit still and be quiet for an hour at a time.

 

[hadit]

All it shows is that homeschoolers do better than the average student

It does not show whether homeschool students would have performed worse (or as well or better) in a public school

Data shows that homeschooled kids learned what they needed to learn to do well on the test that generated the data.

The test is given to measure learning.

Homeschooled kids score higher on the test: they learn more.

What's the problem? You have a problem with kids learning more?

the problem is claiming that they score better because they were homeschooled. that may or may not be the case, but it hasn't been proven here that the cause of better performance is homeschooling.

Like I said before, find a study that concludes the cause of their superior performance is NOT home schooling and we'll discuss it. I find it amusing that we are supposed to believe on the one hand that ignorant, poorly educated parents are attempting to home school their kids and doing a bad job of it, while on the other hand, the home schooled kids are superior in some way to the ones trapped in failing government schools.

Can you see why our Leftist pals will never accept your conclusion?

If they did, the only proper response by government would be vouchers.....and then where would the Democrat Party be?

Funny thing about that. Black and Hispanic Americans, both staunch democrat voting blocs, strongly support vouchers and school choice, yet the democrat party spits on them for doing so. Kinda Stockholm Syndrome there.