I guess I have to explain reality to the Trumpers, so they can understand!

[Doc7505]

Everyone who isn't a left lunatic is paid by Putin.

You really, really are not good at this.

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Of course you have to agree with that statement if you're covering for Iran and Palestine....

 

[Billiejeens]

You can debate that all you want but the economy (rent, inflation, food, etc) is not Biden's fault. End of story.

He posted facts and you respond with words?

 

[john doe 101]

Yes, we (and the economy) were better under Trump than under Biden BUT it is not the presidents that made it happen but the forces not under anyone's control that made it happen.

It is the pandemic (Covid) that caused this to happen


and

The COVID-19 pandemic precipitated a devastatingly sharp contraction of economic activity and huge job losses in early 2020, as government restrictions and fear of the virus kept people at home and businesses shut

Housing Market?

Prices of Real Estate in Europe​

Saldo06/04/2023
COVID-19 has had a significant impact on various sectors of the economy. The real estate market is no different. Recent research shows that year-over-year increases in real estate prices have increased during the pandemic.

Unemployment?

The impact of the COVID-19 crisis on the euro area labour market for men and women​

I can go on and on an on. The entire world was affected the SAME way due to the Pandemic. This was not Biden that caused it and as such, comparisons between Trump and Biden regarding the economy are pure misinformation.

Here in sum of what I stated above:

How has the economy of the United States been affected by COVID-19?

The COVID-19 pandemic's economic consequences are unprecedented for the U.S. by any measure. The toll we estimate that it took on the nation's gross domestic product is twice the size of that of the Great Recession of 2007-2009.

The reality is that Trump did not handle the pandemic as he should have. Here is an example of how Japan, who moved rapidly to stop the pandemic through shut-downs, has done better than the U.S. and Europe have done:

The Japanese Economy and the COVID-19 Pandemic​

Japan's management of COVID-19 infection is considered better compared to that of the United States, Europe, and other countries.

and Biden has done better than Europe in making our economy better

View attachment 1007566

So get off the misinformation campaign you guys are in. Biden is not responsible for things being worse than when Trump was president. Start keying on what is to come if Trump or Biden are elected and stop using the economy as the basis for your debate.

The red hatted trump supporter thinks much like an ancient caveman.

 

[Kilroy2]

Its an age old argument that never has been settled. How much control does the president have over the economy and how much credit does he deserve in a 4 year period.

Trump's Final Numbers - FactCheck.org

Some positive numbers but the standout is the public debt

50% increase well with tax cuts it was inevitable

jobs was down

corporate profits was up (rich get richer) 17%

Jobs took a dive

Income was up slightly 8%

economic growth down

Jobs up and employment rate down

Economic growth up

gasoline price way up

jobs up

earning down

employment down

well depends on what you focus own

Still the big lie was his comments on COVID 19 as he downplayed it to look good

The one thing that sticks in my mind is Trumps comments on COVID

Covid-19 will go away ‘like a miracle’ its only a few cases

Its only a few cases and nothing to worry about

Suggested checking if disinfectant could be injected into humans

 

[SmokeALib]

You can debate that all you want but the economy (rent, inflation, food, etc) is not Biden's fault. End of story.

Of course it's not.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Then you are not worth even talking to.

You learn fast.

 

[Luckyone]

He posted facts and you respond with words?

I gave facts in the OP and he did not address them

 

[Luckyone]

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Are you claiming that high taxes, inflation, and supply side shortages were caused by Covid?

Read the links in the OP and you tell me what THEY say about the topic.

 

[Luckyone]

Is that your answer to the OP? Hahahaha

 

[Luckyone]

Everyone who isn't a left lunatic is paid by Putin.

You really, really are not good at this.

Well, that may be true but one thing for sure, I am better than you. At least I give supporting facts, data, statistics and links to them. You supply words to support your views. You are a joke

 

[skye]

Yes, we (and the economy) were better under Trump than under Biden BUT it is not the presidents that made it happen but the forces not under anyone's control that made it happen.

It is the pandemic (Covid) that caused this to happen


and

The COVID-19 pandemic precipitated a devastatingly sharp contraction of economic activity and huge job losses in early 2020, as government restrictions and fear of the virus kept people at home and businesses shut

Housing Market?

Prices of Real Estate in Europe​

Saldo06/04/2023
COVID-19 has had a significant impact on various sectors of the economy. The real estate market is no different. Recent research shows that year-over-year increases in real estate prices have increased during the pandemic.

Unemployment?

The impact of the COVID-19 crisis on the euro area labour market for men and women​

I can go on and on an on. The entire world was affected the SAME way due to the Pandemic. This was not Biden that caused it and as such, comparisons between Trump and Biden regarding the economy are pure misinformation.

Here in sum of what I stated above:

How has the economy of the United States been affected by COVID-19?

The COVID-19 pandemic's economic consequences are unprecedented for the U.S. by any measure. The toll we estimate that it took on the nation's gross domestic product is twice the size of that of the Great Recession of 2007-2009.

The reality is that Trump did not handle the pandemic as he should have. Here is an example of how Japan, who moved rapidly to stop the pandemic through shut-downs, has done better than the U.S. and Europe have done:

The Japanese Economy and the COVID-19 Pandemic​

Japan's management of COVID-19 infection is considered better compared to that of the United States, Europe, and other countries.

and Biden has done better than Europe in making our economy better

View attachment 1007566

So get off the misinformation campaign you guys are in. Biden is not responsible for things being worse than when Trump was president. Start keying on what is to come if Trump or Biden are elected and stop using the economy as the basis for your debate.

You don't have to explain anything!

what nerve!

 

[Luckyone]

You are awful at this.

I take it that comment as a badge of honor coming from you!

 

[skye]

Is that why you posted disingenuous misinformation?

Probably, yes.

 

[skye]

You’re overpaid at a nickel a post.

^^^ That too OP!

 

[Luckyone]

I agree that the response to Covid affected the economy (and politics) more than any other factor. Whether by design or ignorance, shutting down the economy was a gross overreaction that had (and will continue to have) tremendous consequences. For example, the accumulation of $34 trillion (and counting) in debt is a generational burden which will not be borne easily.

The funny thing is that Japan did shut down the economy right away and they have done 10 times better than us (read the link I enclosed), meaning that facts do not support your statement.

 

[Luckyone]

When Joe Bribem went to war on fossil fuels (So he could push his Green New Deal) energy prices, necessarily had to skyrocket and diesel fuel is why food prices went way up, which then everything else goes up.

Increased fuel prices will lead to people paying more for food in shops and restaurants, an industry trade body has said. The high cost of diesel will end up being passed on to customers, the Federation of Wholesale Distributors said.

Fuel price jump will hit food bills, distributors warn - BBC News​

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60674028

Really? you sure about that? Unfortunately for you, facts don't support your views

Big Oil is doing way better under Biden than under Trump​

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Yes, we (and the economy) were better under Trump than under Biden BUT it is not the presidents that made it happen but the forces not under anyone's control that made it happen.

It is the pandemic (Covid) that caused this to happen


and

The COVID-19 pandemic precipitated a devastatingly sharp contraction of economic activity and huge job losses in early 2020, as government restrictions and fear of the virus kept people at home and businesses shut

Housing Market?

Prices of Real Estate in Europe​

Saldo06/04/2023
COVID-19 has had a significant impact on various sectors of the economy. The real estate market is no different. Recent research shows that year-over-year increases in real estate prices have increased during the pandemic.

Unemployment?

The impact of the COVID-19 crisis on the euro area labour market for men and women​

I can go on and on an on. The entire world was affected the SAME way due to the Pandemic. This was not Biden that caused it and as such, comparisons between Trump and Biden regarding the economy are pure misinformation.

Here in sum of what I stated above:

How has the economy of the United States been affected by COVID-19?

The COVID-19 pandemic's economic consequences are unprecedented for the U.S. by any measure. The toll we estimate that it took on the nation's gross domestic product is twice the size of that of the Great Recession of 2007-2009.

The reality is that Trump did not handle the pandemic as he should have. Here is an example of how Japan, who moved rapidly to stop the pandemic through shut-downs, has done better than the U.S. and Europe have done:

The Japanese Economy and the COVID-19 Pandemic​

Japan's management of COVID-19 infection is considered better compared to that of the United States, Europe, and other countries.

and Biden has done better than Europe in making our economy better

View attachment 1007566

So get off the misinformation campaign you guys are in. Biden is not responsible for things being worse than when Trump was president. Start keying on what is to come if Trump or Biden are elected and stop using the economy as the basis for your debate.

Being retarded has to be painful.

 

[Luckyone]

You don't appear to know who the Democrat candidate is but you want to "shut up" misinformation? LOL Are you the person to be doing that, Lucky?

I have stated repeatedly since the first day here than I am all about preventing Trump from getting elected because he is pancreatic cancer that will cause our death. All other candidates, no matter what they bring to the table, the worst they can do is give us diabetes.............from which we will survive much longer than getting pancreatic cancer and it is even possible that we WON'T get diabetes. With Trump, cancer is a given.

This is my thought

 

[Luckyone]

Bullshit. The inflationary policies of Democrats have devastated our economy. And they did it of purpose. They even promised that they would fuck the USA by causing inflation.

Look it up, moron.

Facts, statistics and data do not support your view

 

[Luckyone]

Being retarded has to be painful.

Evidently you are in pain. I feel sorry for you