If Jesus Is God

Astonishing as it may sound, it is an admitted fact that prior to the sixteenth century, the word “Jehovah,” was unheard of. Whenever the origin of this word appeared in its true Hebrew form in Jewish Scriptures (read from right to left as in Arabic) Yet, Huh, Wav, Huh; or YHWH. these four letters were preceded by a substitute word “Adonai,” to warn the reader that the following word was not to be articulated. The Jews took meticulous care in repeating this exercise in their “Book of God” six thousand, eight hundred and twenty-three times - interpolating the words “Adonai” or “Elohim.” They sincerely believed that this awesome name of God was never to be pronounced.



This prohibition was no ordinary affair: It called for a penalty of death on one who dared to utter it, and this taboo has been more successful than all the “DO’s” and “DON’T’s” of the Ten Commandments put together.



If Jehovah is the name of God, and if the 27 Books of the New Testament were inspired by Him, then it is an anomaly of the highest order, that He (Jehovah) signally failed to have His Own Name recorded in “His Word” (N.T.) the Christian addition to the Jewish Bible. The Christians claim that they have in their possession over twenty-four thousand so-called “originals” of their Holy Writ in the Greek language, and yet not a single parchment has “Jehovah” written in it. Curiously this “name of God” (?) has been sacrilegiously replaced by the Greek words kyrios and theos’, which mean ‘Lord’ and ‘God.’ Yet, miracle of miracles - Alleluya! - no devil or saint has been able to eliminate the word “Allah” from the so-called New Testament of the Christians.



The “Tetragrammaton”

Why not for a change ask him, a question or two. Ask him where he got the word Jehovah from? He will surely reply - “From the Holy Bible.” What does it say? Does it spell out the word Jehovah? “No,” he will reply. “There is a ‘tetragrammaton’ in the Bible from which the word Jehovah is derived.” What is a tetragrammaton?



No one seems to have heard this highly mystical term. In the University of Illinois in the U.S.A. I asked a gathering of students and lecturers whether any one had heard this jaw-breaker! Not one of them knew its meaning! But every Jehovah’s Witness seems to know, even the commonest of them. They have really specialised - ours is a world of special is at ion. They are Professors of the one word - Jehovah.



What then is a “tetragrammaton!” The Jehovah’s Witness replies, “Y H W H!” “No!” “What I want to know from you is, what does the word tetragrammaton mean?” You will find him most reluctant in explaining. Either he does not really know, or he is feeling embarrassed in replying. “Tetra,” in Greek means four, and “grammaton,” means letters. It simply means “a four letter word.”



Can you read into Y H W H the word Jehovah? I cannot. “No!”, says the Jehovah’s Witness, “we ought to add vowels to these four consonants to produce the sound. Originally, both Hebrew and Arabic were written without the vowel signs The native of each language was able to read if even without those vowels. Not so the outsider, for whose benefit the vowels were invented.



The “J” sickness

Let us add the vowels as the “Witness” suggests. YHWH becomes YeHoWaH. Juggle as you like but you can never materialise Jehovah! Ask him, from which hat he drew his “J”. He will tell you that “this is the ‘popular’ pronunciation from the 16th century.” The exact sound of the four letters YHWH is known neither to the Jews nor to the Gentiles, yet he is ramming Jehovah down every ones throats. The European Christians have developed a fondness (sickness) for the letter “J” They add J’s where there are no Jays. Look!



Yael > he converts to Joel

Yehuda > he converts to Juda

Yeheshua > he converts to Joshua

Yusuf > he converts to Joseph

Yunus > he converts to Jonah

Yesus > he converts to Jesus

Yehowa > he converts to Jehovah



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We do not speak Hebrew, we speak english. That is why we use-Job,Jesus, etc as well-Jehovah.
 
John 1:1. The Word was God.

In the Greek-- The only word for God or god is Theos--thus a differential had to be used. In the Greek Ho Theos was the true living God, Which was in the second line. Plain Theos is in the last line. It did not call the Logos the God. Mistranslating by the religion that came out of Rome has mislead billions. They created the trinity god at one of their councils in the 4th century, No trinity was taught at the first council of Nicea in 325. Nor prior to those councils-They invented it because Jesus was not with them. They were the foretold son of destruction= the great apostasy.
 
They were the foretold son of destruction= the great apostasy.
From your posts it appears one of the purposes of the Jehovah Witnesses denomination is to launch attacks on other Christian denominations. Is the purpose of faith to start a denomination to beat up on other faith denomination(s)?
 
From your posts it appears one of the purposes of the Jehovah Witnesses denomination is to launch attacks on other Christian denominations. Is the purpose of faith to start a denomination to beat up on other faith denomination(s)?

Exposing the darkness is not attacking them, its trying to get our fellow humans out of the darkness. God warned all of them in revelation--GET OUT OF HER. because it says all serving in the false religions( Babylon the great) will be held responsible for all of her sins. Should we just stand by and do nothing?
That is like walking by a house at 4 am that is on fire and not knocking to wake those up and just saying oh well they can just perish. Which path would you choose.
 
Trinitarians belielve that god takes three seperate forms that ar three sides of a single being the father, who created the universe, Jesus, the son, who was god in human form, and the "holy spirit" which resides in the hearts of the faithful.


I am a Unitarian, meaning Ibelief god takes one, singular form. Jesus was a human prophet, not god or even the son of god.
 
Trinitarians belielve that god takes three seperate forms that ar three sides of a single being the father, who created the universe, Jesus, the son, who was god in human form, and the "holy spirit" which resides in the hearts of the faithful.


I am a Unitarian, meaning Ibelief god takes one, singular form. Jesus was a human prophet, not god or even the son of god.


Every translation on earth assures Jesus was Gods son. He was not God--Acts 2:22-Gods power went through him. No prophet was ever raised from the dead. Gods son was.
 
Every translation on earth assures Jesus was Gods son. He was not God--Acts 2:22-Gods power went through him. No prophet was ever raised from the dead. Gods son was.
The creators of the bible went through tens of thousands of books that were considered scripture by various sects of Christians and cherry picked those that matched their own ideals.

There were multiple unitarian sects that didnt view Jesus as divine. Their holy books were excluded from the bible because Rome had decided to support trinitarianism and proclaimed unitarianism as heresy.
 
That is like walking by a house at 4 am that is on fire and not knocking to wake those up and just saying oh well they can just perish.
Bad analogy. It is more like being so worried and involved about telling others what is wrong with them, there is little time left for one's own worship or self-examination. Also, that "fire" you think you see in another's home is a nightlight in the darkness.

Seriously, is your main point to gather people to tell others how wrong they are? Good luck with that.
 
The creators of the bible went through tens of thousands of books that were considered scripture by various sects of Christians and cherry picked those that matched their own ideals.

There were multiple unitarian sects that didnt view Jesus as divine. Their holy books were excluded from the bible because Rome had decided to support trinitarianism and proclaimed unitarianism as heresy.

He was still Gods son. God sent him to the earth.( John 5:30) He wasnt God. He was divine because Gods power went through him.( Acts 2:22) He had godlike qualities. He was created direct-first and last, all other things created through him.
 
Bad analogy. It is more like being so worried and involved about telling others what is wrong with them, there is little time left for one's own worship or self-examination. Also, that "fire" you think you see in another's home is a nightlight in the darkness.

Seriously, is your main point to gather people to tell others how wrong they are? Good luck with that.

Everyone who is not obeying Jesus-- eternal life houses are on fire. I am knocking. I share scripture to show them their error--They refuse to listen. Noah warned everyone he could back then- Hebrews 11:7 says he condemned the world and its ways. They laughed at him until God locked the door and the rains began. Most assuredly pounded on it but Noah couldnt let them in it was locked on the outside. It took him 40 years to build the ark. They came from all over to see it and laugh at him.
 
I don't need a video where 2 guys argue about e-mail.
But, otherwise, You, [B]toty5[/B] did a pretty good job in Your post #40

Yes, it is a definite problem for most of deluded Christendom who are worshiping a name invented by Edom.
As for the "New Testament" Christ's name is #2424 in Strong's Bible Concordance, and even though James Strong was a bit deluded by the then current use of Jesus, Mr. Strong managed to see beyond that and wrote the name as (still using a J) Jehoshua, which also applies to Joshua, spelled as Yehoshua, meaning Yah Saves and thus, despite the problems the Greek language had with these names, Yah or Yahveh-Saves is thus also the name of the Messiah, YahShua or YahvehShua who referred to Himself as a Son of Adam, born into the lineage of Adam, Noah, Shem, Laban, Abraham, Isaac and Yacob, all Syrians and their wives too. Deuteronomy 26:5 had Yahveh, via Moses, telling Israel to at least once a year confess in public that Abraham was a Syrian, and they too.

The King of His Universe expects His people to struggle in finding their way through the mess, using His Word/Logic as a base upon which to put everything together. Only the Overcomers enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Heaven being His Presence. Most Christians are too busy saying He is not here.
 
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He was still Gods son. God sent him to the earth.( John 5:30) He wasnt God. He was divine because Gods power went through him.( Acts 2:22) He had godlike qualities. He was created direct-first and last, all other things created through him.
Unitarians view him a human ordered by god to spread a message


Oh and I would put much stock in the NT being accurate. None one who actuaaly knew Jesus wrote them the were written between 80to 100 years after the cruifiction.
 
In the Greek-- The only word for God or god is Theos--thus a differential had to be used. In the Greek Ho Theos was the true living God, Which was in the second line. Plain Theos is in the last line. It did not call the Logos the God. Mistranslating by the religion that came out of Rome has mislead billions. They created the trinity god at one of their councils in the 4th century, No trinity was taught at the first council of Nicea in 325. Nor prior to those councils-They invented it because Jesus was not with them. They were the foretold son of destruction= the great apostasy.


Correct.

The word theos without the definite article Ho before it just means godlike or like God. So it should read "the Word was with The God (Ho Theos) and the word was like God,(theos)" (definitely not God.)
 
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Perhaps you're a jackass.

Look here. There's figurative language.. poetic language.. that would lend itself to spirit, father and "child of God".

The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. Genesis 1:1–2.


lol... Perhaps. Perhaps the people having bible studies are not interested in studying the Bible at all but indoctrinating morons into maintaining and perpetuating irrational beliefs. Apparently years in bible study haven't helped you understand a goddamn thing. ie, the tribulation is over. Right......



That being said the verse from Genesis just shows that the earth was already a planet, a ball of confusion, before light was spoken into existence, a reference to when the law was given.

The earth was without form, (law) and void (life was astonishingly pointless); and darkness (superstition) covered the face of the deep.(the unknown).... then God said , "let there be light"

Even so the darkness has never mastered the light, the law. Even though it is easy.

Some people just "prefer darkness to light because their deeds are evil." (Jesus H. Christ)

How could con men hypnotize and lull their victims to sleep to pick their pockets if I kept waking them up with sound reasoning ? That's why no one wanted me in their bible study..


Not good for business. lol.....Some things never change.....until they do....


BTW noticing that there is poetic language and metaphors in scripture doesn't help you a goddamn bit unless you comprehend the hidden meaning...Try harder.

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I don't need a video where 2 guys argue about e-mail.
But, otherwise, You, [B]toty5[/B] did a pretty good job in Your post #40

Yes, it is a definite problem for most of deluded Christendom who are worshiping a name invented by Edom.
As for the "New Testament" Christ's name is #2424 in Strong's Bible Concordance, and even though James Strong was a bit deluded by the then current use of Jesus, Mr. Strong managed to see beyond that and wrote the name as (still using a J) Jehoshua, which also applies to Joshua, spelled as Yehoshua, meaning Yah Saves and thus, despite the problems the Greek language had with these names, Yah or Yahveh-Saves is thus also the name of the Messiah, YahShua or YahvehShua who referred to Himself as a Son of Adam, born into the lineage of Adam, Noah, Shem, Laban, Abraham, Isaac and Yacob, all Syrians and their wives too. Deuteronomy 26:5 had Yahveh, via Moses, telling Israel to at least once a year confess in public that Abraham was a Syrian, and they too.

The King of His Universe expects His people to struggle in finding their way through the mess, using His Word/Logic as a base upon which to put everything together. Only the Overcomers enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Heaven being His Presence. Most Christians are too busy saying He is not here.
2Peter 3:3 foretold the ridiculers of his presence. It is YHWH( Jehovah) who is doing it all through Jesus( Acts 2:22)
 
Unitarians view him a human ordered by god to spread a message


Oh and I would put much stock in the NT being accurate. None one who actuaaly knew Jesus wrote them the were written between 80to 100 years after the cruifiction.
Written by Gods holy spirit directing those men. The religion that came out of Rome altered things to fit false council teachings.
 
Correct.

The word theos without the definite article Ho before it just means godlike or like God. So it should read "the Word was with The God (Ho Theos) and the word was like God,(theos)" (definitely not God.)
a god small g. in the last line.
 
Written by Gods holy spirit directing those men. The religion that came out of Rome altered things to fit false council teachings.
And did the holy spirit direct the roman politions who decided which book went into the bible?

Cause there were about a dozen more gospels that early christians considered scriptue that didnt make the cut.

I think the decisions weremade based on politics more than gods will.
 
And did the holy spirit direct the roman politions who decided which book went into the bible?

Cause there were about a dozen more gospels that early christians considered scriptue that didnt make the cut.

I think the decisions weremade based on politics more than gods will.

Actually they added more books. But those who read them saw they were not in harmony with the 66 books. God used the wicked in the OT and the Romans to wipe out many of the apostocised Israelites. He surely can keep his bible in tact. The teachings of Jesus are the same. Its those teachings that expose 99% of all religions claiming to be christian as false ones. Few know what he actually teaches.
 

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