Is another Civil War brewing?

[Roadrunner]

Oh

The only way I would raise a rifle today to defend this country, is if the enemy invaded our soil and declared war on Americans.
Aside from that, this country is no longer worth fighting for.

And you will happily take what freebies you can from it. Your type always takes free things.

I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me for someone else. You don't know me or my motivations. What freebies exactly? I love my country. I'm a proud American and southerner. I support same sex marriage, I support flying the confederate battle flag and old glory. I'm not a racist, I don't discriminate against same sex couples, and I work hard for my piece of the American pie. Fact: This nation is divided. Hate, discrimination, the attack on guns and flags, God, love, and those who think they deserve something for nothing are to blame. Fact: This nations security is being compromised by civil unrest, terrorists, and ourselves. We're far from being united.

I am a 12th generation American.

In the 7th, there was some trouble, and, my people came out on the wrong end of it.

Here in the 12th generation, I honor that they did their duty, came home, and started over.

I despise the desecration of the Confederate flag by ignorant assholes, and it is a shame the tasteful display of it in a historical setting has become a political issue because of the actions of an insane person.

Keeps the peoples' minds off their economic woes though.

To deem the confederate flag a symbol of bigoted hate nationwide because of a very tiny few who have used it to that end is shameful. It does little more than honor those few who hate and invalidate the many who don't. This nation is taking a symbol of southern pride and are handing it over to hateful bigots.

Civil unrest? Damn right! And here we have people so oblivious to what's going on they fuel the racial tension unwittingly by demonizing a flag ... Political correctness so unjust ... So terribly misguided! Here's a thought: Quit attacking THINGS and start dealing with the criminally disturbed PEOPLE who use things to meet their hate filled ends.

By failing to call out the white supremacists and racists who were using the confederate flag for their vile agenda you surrendered control of it over to them.

Had you spoken out against them when they first began using it you might have a point.

But you didn't!

So now your silence is seen as condoning racism.

STFU.

I wasn't BORN when the battle flag began to be used for dubious reasons.

 

[flacaltenn]

It certainly wouldn't be as long.

Hopefully not pal. We need to stop pushing so hard on each other in this country --- so neither of us has to find out.. Southern culture ain't submitting to idiots who are ripping stars n bars off of toy cars.

I LIVE on Civil War Battleground. It's HISTORY. And Northerners as well as Southerners are in AWE of what happened when they tour the sites in my area..

 

[G.T.]

Most people arent bitter old fucks on messageboards and watching fox/msnbc.

Theyre sitting at lunch tables together.
Learning together.
Going to bars/shows/plays.
Going to sporting events


Preppers and civil war weirdos are outliers. Loons, not in the mix of every day life.

Civil war would neva eva eva eva happen.

 

[Nosmo King]

What a lot of hyperbole.
There is not the slightest chance of anything like an organized rebellion against the present government.
There is not the slightest chance that anything presenting itself as a domestic opposing force would survive the first hostile contact with US troops.

There's not the slightest chance of a successful rebellion. There's not the slightest chance of a rebellion consisting of a few beer buddies cruising around in a dirty Dodge Durango.

People revolt because they're hungry or poor or repressed. Someday, they'll produce a reality show about new-confederates or radical militias or gun fetishists. That's as organized as it will get. How can one united a mob angry over rule of law?

Keep your eye on Greece. Everybody there got 85 dollars to live on for a month. They have NO guns but watch them. Here would be that PLUS guns.

They are restricted from withdrawing more than €60.00 a day which amounts to $75.00. And if you're using Greece today as an analog for the United States today, you know nothing about Greece or the United States.

 

[flacaltenn]

You think the CIChief has the balls to be bombing community centers, shopping malls, and govt buildings.? Aint' that easy --- EVEN WITH the armed superiority.. You have to SUBDUE an insurrection.. Before the 1st week ended the "duly constituted govt" might be as popular as say --- ole Assad in Syria.. Just sayin'.

Another Civil War wouldn't be as "clean" as the last one..

Civil war would be a horror for all. The left dreams of watching MSNBC and seeing Obama's Mighty Legions round up anyone not swearing a loyalty oath the party and machine gunning them, then running down to Whole Foods to buy a quiche. The right dreams of Rambo running through the woods defeating bumbling Obamabots who can't figure out how to chamber a round.

Neither vision is realistic. Real conflict will mean that goods and services stop, no food, no lights, no internet, no gay porn for the democrats, no NASCAR for the Republicans. Millions dead with an economy in shambles.

Not very pleasant.

Almost gave ya a funny for that -- but then you got serious.. Pushin and shovin needs to slow down. Because I'm sure there is already a small minority lining up for confrontation...

 

[HenryBHough]

They are restricted from withdrawing more than €60 a day which amounts to $75.00. And if you're using Greece today as an analog for the United States today, you know nothing about Greece or the United States.

It's just a confused sort of timekeeping.

Be patient.

I don't expect to survive what's coming - too much work for too little gain - but I'm keeping a battery powered mini-TV anmd mini-iPad (with lots of battery backup) around so I can watch you urbanites kill each other.

Rural is good.

Rural islands are better tho not perfect.

 

[Roadrunner]

They are restricted from withdrawing more than €60 a day which amounts to $75.00. And if you're using Greece today as an analog for the United States today, you know nothing about Greece or the United States.

It's just a confused sort of timekeeping.

Be patient.

I don't expect to survive what's coming - too much work for too little gain - but I'm keeping a battery powered mini-TV anmd mini-iPad (with lots of battery backup) around so I can watch you urbanites kill each other.

Rural is good.

Rural islands are better tho not perfect.

One of each is best.

 

[CallMeKush]

The only way I would raise a rifle today to defend this country, is if the enemy invaded our soil and declared war on Americans.
Aside from that, this country is no longer worth fighting for.

And you will happily take what freebies you can from it. Your type always takes free things.

I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me for someone else. You don't know me or my motivations. What freebies exactly? I love my country. I'm a proud American and southerner. I support same sex marriage, I support flying the confederate battle flag and old glory. I'm not a racist, I don't discriminate against same sex couples, and I work hard for my piece of the American pie. Fact: This nation is divided. Hate, discrimination, the attack on guns and flags, God, love, and those who think they deserve something for nothing are to blame. Fact: This nations security is being compromised by civil unrest, terrorists, and ourselves. We're far from being united.

I am a 12th generation American.

In the 7th, there was some trouble, and, my people came out on the wrong end of it.

Here in the 12th generation, I honor that they did their duty, came home, and started over.

I despise the desecration of the Confederate flag by ignorant assholes, and it is a shame the tasteful display of it in a historical setting has become a political issue because of the actions of an insane person.

Keeps the peoples' minds off their economic woes though.

To deem the confederate flag a symbol of bigoted hate nationwide because of a very tiny few who have used it to that end is shameful. It does little more than honor those few who hate and invalidate the many who don't. This nation is taking a symbol of southern pride and are handing it over to hateful bigots.

Civil unrest? Damn right! And here we have people so oblivious to what's going on they fuel the racial tension unwittingly by demonizing a flag ... Political correctness so unjust ... So terribly misguided! Here's a thought: Quit attacking THINGS and start dealing with the criminally disturbed PEOPLE who use things to meet their hate filled ends.

By failing to call out the white supremacists and racists who were using the confederate flag for their vile agenda you surrendered control of it over to them.

Had you spoken out against them when they first began using it you might have a point.

But you didn't!

So now your silence is seen as condoning racism.

When it comes to southern pride and the flag that represents the fighting spirit of the south, the racist few are given credence over the rest. Yes, slavery was a part of southern history, but then racial profiling, unfair and unequal wages for woman, and a host of other injustices still prevalent in America, yet old glory still waves.

The American flag stands for a century and a half of slavery, two centuries of suppression of women, and two and a half centuries of civil rights violations including genocide, forced relocations, religious persecution, concentration camps, and torture. This does not include the fact it was forged as an act of open lawless rebellion. Fact: The flag isn't the problem folks!

The rebel flag is being demonized because a few hate filled people decided to claim it as their own. It's time to TAKE BACK and reclaim the symbol of this nations southern heritage. If not, the hate filled racists win.
Now, some claim victory because this flag is being taken off shelves and flag poles, but it's an empty, pointless, and shallow victory that had done nothing to address the root of hate crimes. An attack on a symbol of southern pride has taken place instead of dealing with the real issue ... Hate! It's an ego victory and nothing more.

The attack on guns, flags, etc. seems to be the modus operandi of the left all while they neglect to deal with the root of violent crimes. On the right, they attack the love shared between same sex couples all while many boast in following Christ who commanded we love one another. Scripture never speaks against love. It does however, convict us all of something.

People attack things like guns, flags, historic monuments, and even love because they're too chicken shit to deal with the real issue's. Hate is prevalent in our society and so hate is further fueled by racists wolves parading around in sheep's clothing.

Last time I checked, it has only been a few decades since racist bigots hijacked the flag in question. Compare that with centuries of oppression under old glory. Old glory still waves, but for some reason more credence has been given to very few racists than the vast majority of southerner's who fly the confederate battle flag proudly, peacefully, and with honor.

What a bunch of thieves! You unwittingly side with racist bigots.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Oh

And you will happily take what freebies you can from it. Your type always takes free things.

I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me for someone else. You don't know me or my motivations. What freebies exactly? I love my country. I'm a proud American and southerner. I support same sex marriage, I support flying the confederate battle flag and old glory. I'm not a racist, I don't discriminate against same sex couples, and I work hard for my piece of the American pie. Fact: This nation is divided. Hate, discrimination, the attack on guns and flags, God, love, and those who think they deserve something for nothing are to blame. Fact: This nations security is being compromised by civil unrest, terrorists, and ourselves. We're far from being united.

I am a 12th generation American.

In the 7th, there was some trouble, and, my people came out on the wrong end of it.

Here in the 12th generation, I honor that they did their duty, came home, and started over.

I despise the desecration of the Confederate flag by ignorant assholes, and it is a shame the tasteful display of it in a historical setting has become a political issue because of the actions of an insane person.

Keeps the peoples' minds off their economic woes though.

To deem the confederate flag a symbol of bigoted hate nationwide because of a very tiny few who have used it to that end is shameful. It does little more than honor those few who hate and invalidate the many who don't. This nation is taking a symbol of southern pride and are handing it over to hateful bigots.

Civil unrest? Damn right! And here we have people so oblivious to what's going on they fuel the racial tension unwittingly by demonizing a flag ... Political correctness so unjust ... So terribly misguided! Here's a thought: Quit attacking THINGS and start dealing with the criminally disturbed PEOPLE who use things to meet their hate filled ends.

By failing to call out the white supremacists and racists who were using the confederate flag for their vile agenda you surrendered control of it over to them.

Had you spoken out against them when they first began using it you might have a point.

But you didn't!

So now your silence is seen as condoning racism.

STFU.

I wasn't BORN when the battle flag began to be used for dubious reasons.

But you never saw fit to call out those "dubious reasons", did you?

 

[Derideo_Te]

What a bunch of thieves! You unwittingly side with racist bigots.

Old Glory saw the freedom of Americans to equal treatment under the law expanded just last Friday. Old glory stands for expanding the rights and freedoms of those who are denied them by the racists and bigots.

So while Old Glory has some sins in the past it has prevailed over ensuring that all Americans have the right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Unfortunately the confederate flag never stood for any of those things. Quite the opposite which is why it was co-opted by the racists because they rightly perceived it as a symbol of their white supremacist beliefs. Roof embraced it, and the racist flag of the Apartheid regime, for that very reason.

There is no justification for flying the confederate flag over any government property whatsoever.

That doesn't mean it won't still fly, but those who do fly it now know that they can't deny the racism for which it stands.

 

[snapzz]

... or is that alarmist?
Even the "gay marriage" is aligning South vs. North...or no?

Could be, but I'd give it less than a 20% chance of really happening.

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I agree less then 20% chance of it really happening.

 

[flacaltenn]

What a bunch of thieves! You unwittingly side with racist bigots.

Old Glory saw the freedom of Americans to equal treatment under the law expanded just last Friday. Old glory stands for expanding the rights and freedoms of those who are denied them by the racists and bigots.

So while Old Glory has some sins in the past it has prevailed over ensuring that all Americans have the right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Unfortunately the confederate flag never stood for any of those things. Quite the opposite which is why it was co-opted by the racists because they rightly perceived it as a symbol of their white supremacist beliefs. Roof embraced it, and the racist flag of the Apartheid regime, for that very reason.

There is no justification for flying the confederate flag over any government property whatsoever.

That doesn't mean it won't still fly, but those who do fly it now know that they can't deny the racism for which it stands.

You want to live in a society baby-proofed for morons? Or preserve liberty and freedom of expression??
Hell of a lot of work to do to finish the baby -- proofing. Might be easier to subdue the violent morons..

 

[Marianne]

... or is that alarmist?
Even the "gay marriage" is aligning South vs. North...or no?

I don't think so but then again it depends on what happens in 2016. I'll be heading South if it does. Got some peeps in Houston that might give us a hand resettling.

 

[flacaltenn]

Don't tell me that the 3 teachers who failed Roof in the 9th grade didn't know he needed help..
Or his parents who enabled him.. Blaming folks who have "Rebels" as a High School mascot seems completely unproductive to me..... Might even have the REVERSE effect.. And confirm to mental midgets that they NEED a Confederate flag to identify with...

Hell -- that idiot has no idea of where the Mason Dixon Line is or a clue of where State's Rights stem from...

 

[MarcATL]

It never truly ended. Divided still to this day due to hate, intolerance, and the pursuit to stifle certain cultures - America is not yet made the leap to one nation, we're far from being united, but are rather at war with our own countrymen. When and how can this end when flags, love, god, and guns are being attacked from all fronts instead of addressing our true ailments ... hate!

Bullshit, but for a few malcontents, we are all Americans.

When our enemies shoot at us, there are no Dash-Americans.

The only way I would raise a rifle today to defend this country, is if the enemy invaded our soil and declared war on Americans.
Aside from that, this country is no longer worth fighting for.

Since when? When did this country become unworthy of your defense?

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[MarcATL]

Not between the North and South, no.

If not them, then who?

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[MarcATL]

... or is that alarmist?
Even the "gay marriage" is aligning South vs. North...or no?

You're right. It is alarmist.

And I believe, in the land of Johnny Mercer and Tennessee Williams and William Faulkner there are LGBT people living, working, paying taxes, active in their community and church and thankful that they have equal access to the protections of a marriage license.

The Conservatives who, as usual, are acting out in a fit of pique would find it difficult to rally armed support for the cause of repressing American citizens.

People as a whole will not be shooting gays. Gays are a side issue on it's best day. People will be shooting democrats.

How will you identify them?

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[MarcATL]

You're right. It is alarmist.

And I believe, in the land of Johnny Mercer and Tennessee Williams and William Faulkner there are LGBT people living, working, paying taxes, active in their community and church and thankful that they have equal access to the protections of a marriage license.

The Conservatives who, as usual, are acting out in a fit of pique would find it difficult to rally armed support for the cause of repressing American citizens.

People as a whole will not be shooting gays. Gays are a side issue on it's best day. People will be shooting democrats.

No, they won't.

People WILL be shooting democrats. Greece could start shooting them any time now.

You and your buds such as Roadrunner are the village idiots. The end is predestined, and it will be so much different than you hope.

75% of the guns owned in America are by Republicans.

100% of this country's tanks and missiles are owned by the government. Make their day punk.

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[Mac1958]

... or is that alarmist?
Even the "gay marriage" is aligning South vs. North...or no?

Sporadic events, but that will be it.

The division pimps gain more influence, they win again, and some people will suffer.

.

 

[MarcATL]

People as a whole will not be shooting gays. Gays are a side issue on it's best day. People will be shooting democrats.

No, they won't.

People WILL be shooting democrats. Greece could start shooting them any time now.

You and your buds such as Roadrunner are the village idiots. The end is predestined, and it will be so much different than you hope.

75% of the guns owned in America are by Republicans.

Republicans have gone crazy, but even they aren't that crazy.

A literal handful are, have you been observing the thread?

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