Israel on Sunday confiscated nearly 1,000 acres of privately owned Palestinian land near an Israeli

[toastman]

That's what happens when you send in hundreds of suicide bombers into your 'neighbours' cafes, restaurants, synagogues, etc....

Then the solution is selling them a few B-52's.

You don't need suicide bombers when you got the real thing!

They are too stupid to operate modern machinery

Of course, Palestinians are "stupid" they are not quite human to you Jews are they. Racist pig.

I didn't say PAlestinians are stupid you moron.

I'm talking about Hamas . The people who would be operating fighter jets if they had.

You on the other hand are as stupid as they come

 

[Kondor3]

Pest Control hard at work...

The icing on the cake for any well-done annexation...

To keep out the riff-raff...

1,000 acres?

Chump-change, compared to what's coming...

Blocking Palestinian Nazis from blowing themselves up. Worked like a charm!

Fun, too...

 

[Phoenall]

The War started before Israel even became a country..............with clashes and fighting from the beginning of the century...............

The War against Israel as a country has never ended from the day it was recognized and formed.

The war started when Zionists migrated in the hostility with their racist, apartheid policies.

So the many millions of Jews mass murdered from 635 C.E. by arab muslims have nothing to do with the problems. The verses in the Koran and commands in the hadith telling the muslims to "KILL THE JEWS" have nothing to do with the problem. Just the legal migration at the request of the legal land owners to the Jews to settle and make Palestine flourish again.

Now say that you don't show Jew hatred in this post. ( swap Jew, Israeli, Zionist and any other name you want into your post above as they all mean the same thing to filthy white supremacist racists like you )

Can you point to any source that claims that Muslims murdered "millions" of Jews since 635 CE. I doubt there were ever "millions" of Jews in the Middle East after the Roman expulsion of Jews from Palestine. Christians did, in fact, kill millions of Jews, but those Jews were in Europe.

Have you read the hadiths, or are you so illiterate you ant actually read. 50,000 mass murdered in Medina alone by the arab muslim horde, all unarmed peaceful traders. Now just look at the rest of the M.E. from then and you an see where Jews were mass murdered by the arab muslims on the commands of their god. You just wont admit that islam is the biggest mass murderer throughout the pages of history, with hundreds of millions of innocents to their tally.

 

[Phoenall]

That is an opinion written by one Eli E. Hertz, The same guy who drew the fantasy maps you posted earlier

Heres a link A RES 181 II of 29 November 1947 directly to UN Resolution 181

And here is a link to the3 map of San Remo 1920

I doubt if that map is from 1920, as saudi Arabia did not exist at that time,

In 1932, the two kingdoms of the Hejaz and Najd were united as the 'Kingdom of Saudi Arabia'.
History of Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

It was a bit like Palestine it was an area on the map known as Saudi Arabia.

 

[Phoenall]

The War started before Israel even became a country..............with clashes and fighting from the beginning of the century...............

The War against Israel as a country has never ended from the day it was recognized and formed.

The war started when Zionists migrated in the hostility with their racist, apartheid policies.

So the many millions of Jews mass murdered from 635 C.E. by arab muslims have nothing to do with the problems. The verses in the Koran and commands in the hadith telling the muslims to "KILL THE JEWS" have nothing to do with the problem. Just the legal migration at the request of the legal land owners to the Jews to settle and make Palestine flourish again.

Now say that you don't show Jew hatred in this post. ( swap Jew, Israeli, Zionist and any other name you want into your post above as they all mean the same thing to filthy white supremacist racists like you )

Can you point to any source that claims that Muslims murdered "millions" of Jews since 635 CE. I doubt there were ever "millions" of Jews in the Middle East after the Roman expulsion of Jews from Palestine. Christians did, in fact, kill millions of Jews, but those Jews were in Europe.

Killings for Islam

 

[fanger]

All of the other people have committed crimes, the Jews are the only ones who have boasted about committing them. They are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race.Voltaire

 

[Phoenall]

Continued attacks against Israel by Hamas makes Peace Impossible.

Hams, Hezballah, the Muslim Brotherhood, Iran, and etc. refusing to accept Israel's right to exist makes Peace Impossible.

There will never be Peace under these conditions............

NEVER.

Nor will there be peace with continued land confiscation for new settlements.

Read the Oslo accords before making LYING statements as the one above.

It's not a lie. Land confiscation in this manner is theft.

How would you feel if it was YOUR property? How would you feel if the new "settlement" built on YOUR property denied you admittence because you were of the wrong ethnicity?

First prove that the arab muslims held title to the land, and the easy way to do that would be to point to the treaty or mandate that says "this land will be arab muslims"

Like I do with the Mandate for Palestine's delineation of the land of the Jewish national home

Delineating the final geographical area of Palestine designated for the Jewish National Home on September 16, 1922, as described by the Mandatory

PALESTINE



INTRODUCTORY.


POSITION, ETC.​

Palestine lies on the western edge of the continent of Asia between Latitude 30º N. and 33º N., Longitude 34º 30’ E. and 35º 30’ E.

On the North it is bounded by the French Mandated Territories of Syria and Lebanon, on the East by Syria and Trans-Jordan, on the South-west by the Egyptian province of Sinai, on the South-east by the Gulf of Aqaba and on the West by the Mediterranean. The frontier with Syria was laid down by the Anglo-French Convention of the 23rd December, 1920, and its delimitation was ratified in 1923. Briefly stated, the boundaries are as follows: -

North. – From Ras en Naqura on the Mediterranean eastwards to a point west of Qadas, thence in a northerly direction to Metulla, thence east to a point west of Banias.

East. – From Banias in a southerly direction east of Lake Hula to Jisr Banat Ya’pub, thence along a line east of the Jordan and the Lake of Tiberias and on to El Hamme station on the Samakh-Deraa railway line, thence along the centre of the river Yarmuq to its confluence with the Jordan, thence along the centres of the Jordan, the Dead Sea and the Wadi Araba to a point on the Gulf of Aqaba two miles west of the town of Aqaba, thence along the shore of the Gulf of Aqaba to Ras Jaba.

South. – From Ras Jaba in a generally north-westerly direction to the junction of the Neki-Aqaba and Gaza-Aqaba Roads, thence to a point west-north-west of Ain Maghara and thence to a point on the Mediterranean coast north-west of Rafa.

West. – The Mediterranean Sea.




So any land inside these borders is Jewish and owned by Israel.

 

[Phoenall]

So it's ok for a government to confiscate privately owned land?

Privately owned by whom, exactly?

The Palestinians that it was confiscated from (according to the article).

So when did they get title to this land ? and who gave them the title ?

 

[Phoenall]

Okay...........I'm spamming the thread with the History of the Region...............because I'm tired of the Lies..............

Primarily because the History is credible to the argument against those saying the Land was STOLEN...................

The Land was STOLEN.............by the TURKS...........................killing all who didn't like..............

The Massacres began well before WWI...............So much so that Western powers were ready to go to War against the Ottomans long before WWI...................

It was the systematic GENOCIDE of all INFIDELS of the time by the TURKS.................It was simply how they ROLLED BACK THEN.................

So today they can say................................SEE THERE WAS NO JEWS AND CHRISTIANS THERE......................They are correct...............THE TURKS SAW TO THAT..............They KILLED THEM ALL...............................

So to all you MUSLIM APOLOGISTS..................PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT.

Readers Digest Version: Because various groups in ancient history over ran various lands and killed a bunch of people it's ok for people in modern (supposedly civilized) times to do so now. What's the difference between Russia vis a vis the Ukraine and Israel vis a vis Palestine? Not much. Except that Russia at least lets the people stay in the conquored territory.

International law says the land is Jewish and that is all that matters, the UN did not have the authority to carve it up so the original borders stand.

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[SAYIT]

Thank you for clarifying.

Land confiscations do, however occur:

Supreme Court orders Israel's AG to explain law allowing confiscation of Palestinian land in Jerusalem

And as your article shows, there are remedies available to all in Israeli courts.

Israel court rules against separation wall in Beit Jala Maan News Agency

Palestinians enjoy land victory in Israeli courts Reuters

Palestinian landowners and Israeli residents declare victory after uniting to save historic Roman terraces - Telegraph

 

[SAYIT]

You wouldn't know the truth if it bitch slapped you. Like why does your title allude to "this sunday" posted on April 5, 2015, when your source documentation talk about something that happened last year?

That is the extent of your truth. Because it certainly is not extant.

I posted it the day it was published or re-published on Yahoo.
Truth the Bitch has slapped you many times to no avail!

But the "land grab that wasn't" was not a true story at any publishing:

The Israeli land grab that wasn t - The Washington Post

 

[eagle1462010]

Caratzas Bookstore The Genocide of the Ottoman Greeks

ships immediately
Studies on the State Sponsored Campaign of Extermination of the Christians of Asia Minor (1912-1922) and Its Aftermath: History, Law, Memory

Edited by Tessa Hofmann, Matthias Bjørnlund and Vasileios Meichanetsidis

hardcover; 512 pages, 37 photographs, maps

The period of transition from the collapse of the Ottoman Empire to the foundation of the Turkish Republic was characterized by a number of processes largely guided by a narrow elite that aimed to construct a modern, national state. One of these processes was the deliberate and planned elimination, indeed extermination, of the Christian (and certain other) minorities. According to demographic studies, the numbers are stark: In 1912 the areas of Asia Minor and Thrace were inhabited by about 4-5 million Christians and 7-8 million Muslims; by 1923 only 250-300,000 Christians remained.

Raphael Lemkin, the legal scholar who introduced the term genocide into international law, formulated his early ideas on the definition of this war crime by studying the destruction of the Christians of Asia Minor, while the distinguished Turcologist Neoklis Sarris has noted that the annihilation of the Christian minorities represented an integral element in the formation of the Turkish Republic. As the editors of this volume note the recent resolution by the International Association of Genocide Scholars recognizing the Greek and Syriac genocides suggests a wider range of victim groups. This volume therefore represents an effort to provide an outline and a direction of a more extensive study of the deliberate destruction and elimination of a Greek presence that spanned over three millennia, in the space that became the Turkish Republic.

The last two decades have seen a massive amount of research of the genocide of the Armenian population in the Ottoman/Turkish space; our publishing house has produced a number of works, most notable of which was the eyewitness testimony of the Leslie A. Davis, US Consul in Harput (The Slaughterhouse Province: An American Diplomat's Report on the Armenian Genocide of 1915-1917). Much less scholarly work has been done on the genocide of the Greeks of Asia Minor and Thrace; there are many reasons for this, including the fact that Turkish governments have been successful in intimidating diplomats in the context of Turkish-Greek relations of the last generation, and of subverting academic integrity (inducing some scholars to make a career as denialists supported by international NGOs, all in the name of countering nationalism).

 

[SAYIT]

The don't exist because they never did. Palestinian is a made up name for Arab invader.

True story, bigmouth.

It doesn't matter what name you call them. You could call them "Roudy's Lost Left Nut" and it would still be the same; there was an indigenous population of non-Jewish residents living there at the time of the Zionist migration and THEY HAVE RIGHTS!

Yanno, the (Saudi) Hashemite Kings of Jordan have for decades ruled over their indigenous yet powerless Palestinian majority. In fact, Arab/Muslim tyrants have done the same to most of the 350 million Mideast Arabs. How is it you reserve all your hate for Jooos?

 

[eagle1462010]

Much is said about how the Arabs owned the land and La La La. How it was stolen.............How the Israeli's are BIGOTS and RACIST................

But they don't mention WHY THERE WAS SO FEW IN THE REGION.................

And I again say, because they were EXTERMINATED....................In the death throws of the Ottoman Empire...........

You see, Hitler wasn't the first to practice GENOCIDE................THE OTTOMANS had the Market Share of it before Hitler was even on the radar..................

Why would Jews and Christians Flee these Regions and seek another home...................Because they were being slaughtered along with the Christians by the Ottomans every where else..............

Britain and France had every right to Kick their asses in the Middle East in WWII...............and had every right to Rule the Region after WWI.

 

[eagle1462010]

I have told the story already of the Armenians..............

Now I tell the story of the Greeks.................

Same time frame..............SAME SLAUGHTER......................

The Muslims do not have a moral leg to stand on.............their history of Brutality and outright GENOCIDE are a SCOURGE OF THE EARTH...................

Here is what the Middle East is built on.................

 

[SAYIT]

Under the UN charter they gave up those rights if they chose violence and open conflict over Peace..............

They had laid out a Map for a Palestinian State.............but they chose War.............under the Mandate the UN or Israel had no obligation to recognize it if they chose War.

They didn't give up their rights, their "rights" were taken away.

And they didn't "choose" war, they did what you and I would do if our home was invaded by a foreign force...

Camel crap. The Arabs in 1947, having already usurped 77% of the Palestine mandated land mass (Jordan), violently rejected a UN recommendation that they settle for 50% of what was left (including ALL of Jerusalem), leaving the Jews with three small Bantustans (see map below). The very thought that the region's Jews would no longer have to live under their rule - even on those unsustainable patches of land - was too much for the Arabs to bear.

 

[SAYIT]

Pest Control hard at work...

The icing on the cake for any well-done annexation...

To keep out the riff-raff...

1,000 acres?

Chump-change, compared to what's coming...

Many countries, including Saudi Arabia, build fences to protect their citizens. In doing so Israel protects even the 20% of her population who are Palestinian Arabs. In fact, Israel's fence has saved many lives (see: pre and post-fence casualty figures) Not surprisingly, Nazis find only Israel's to be offensive.

Saudis build 1 000-mile Yemen border fence - BBC News

 

[eagle1462010]

From the last report by the British............

1921...............700,000 people in Palestine
.......................77,000 were Christians
.......................76,000 were Jews

1937..............1,600,000 people in Palestine
......................400,000 people were Jews
......................? Christians..............

Britain was encouraging immigration there............Said it was underdeveloped and underpopulated...........

So in 16 years 323,000 Jews immigrated to the area........
.......................577,000 Muslims immigrated to the area...........As I don't see the Christian population in the reports....................will have to dig deeper...........


Either way, the Jews were there buying and cultivating land...............improving the land and making the Desert Bloom................using modern agriculture methods of irrigation and the like...................

Turning Desert into useful land......................later in History the Arabs were bitching that they didn't give it to them................as it was NO LONGER DESERT.............................

My post from early in the discussion......................

Is there any question anymore why there is a question mark by the Christians of the region..............

Any Christian and or Jew who decides to live under Muslim Rule is a fool...............eventually they will suffer the same fate as the rest..................as History has shown.

Creating Israel ensured the survival of the Jews there...............Had the Western powers not done so the Jews would very probably been mass murdered again by now......................Glad they had the SPINE to do so.

 

[SAYIT]

The War forced them out when the neighboring countries attacked Israel.............telling them to leave while they did it...........

That is one of the most ridiculous comments I've ever heard regarding this issue!

No one just up and leaves a home they've been living in for generations, because someone "ASKS THEM TO!"

They left for various reasons and exhortations by fellow Arabs was certainly one of them:

Khalid al-Azm, who was prime minister of Syria from 17 December 1948 to 30 March 1949, listed in his memoirs a number of reasons for the Arab defeat in an attack on the Arab leaders including his own predecessor Jamil Mardam Bey.

Fifth: the Arab governments' invitation to the people of Palestine to flee from it and seek refuge in adjacent Arab countries.... Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homeland, while it is we who constrained them to leave it...
Causes of the 1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia