Kasich commits political suicide

[Rustic]

Wow.. crystal ball's working overtime I see.

Sorry, there's a helluva lot more excitement over Trump and Carson then your seventy year old washed up has been and that nutbag Sanders. Look at Bush, he's a RINO, actually, probably a leftist... and he's failing miserably. The GOP swept you guys in the last two elections. Wll it happen next year? I dunno, but rule it out is absurd... Obama's been an unmitigated disaster, as has been these RINO's.

Excitement over Trump and Carson? By a minority of Republicans responding to polls. And you mistake amusement for excitement.

The last two presidential elections no conservatives showed up to the polls just Rinos...

Your perception is my point. The fringe right perception of 'conservative' is so narrow, so exclusionary, so extreme.....that almost no republicans meet it. No moderates do. And obviously no liberals do.

In all of congress......perhaps 40 folks meet your definition. And among the general public, fewer still.

No, the last two presidential Rinos received hardly any votes in the elections, hence losing.
If the real conservatives ran they would have won, because a good number of people would have actually showed up to the polls. There for winning.

So, in the Republican primary where most conservatives vote, they were not able to select a "real" conservative but in the general election, where everyone votes, including the majority party, the democrats, and moderates in the middle, the conservatives would suddenly win? Do you have any idea how stupid that argument is?

Progressives run the Rino party, that simple.

 

[Katzndogz]

Kasich had no chance anyway.

Which doesn't undermine the truth of his statement.

It makes his statement nonsense.

 

[bedowin62]

when you say a majority support immigration you need to make it clear you're too stupid to see a difference between immigratin and ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION


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[Skylar]

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Feb 13, 2013 - It is becoming clear that not only do many scientists dispute the asserted global warming crisis, but these skeptical scientists may indeed form a scientific consensus. ... Only 36 percent of geoscientists and engineers believe that humans are creating a global warming crisis

With your study's introduction opening with this statement:

With all of the hysteria, all of the fear, all of the phony science, could it be that man-made global warming is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people? (Inhofe, 2003)

With the study being a poll of very, very specific individuals:

To address this, we reconstruct the frames of one group of experts who have not received much attention in previous research and yet play a central role in understanding industry responses – professional experts in petroleum and related industries.

They only cited those who worked in the oil or related industries. The study was to determine how those scientists who work in the oil industry justify their opposition to global warming.

Not only are we interested in the positions [professional experts in petroleum and related industries] take towards climate change and in the recommendations for policy development and organizational decision-making that they derive from their framings, but also in how they construct and attempt to safeguard their expert status against others. To gain an understanding of the competing expert claims and to link them to issues of professional resistance and defensive institutional work, we combine insights from various disciplines and approaches: framing, professions literature, and institutional theory.

The authors of the study were very, very clear that they weren't polling scientists in general and was not a representative sample of the views of scientists on the issue. Nor did they ever claim it was:

First and foremost, our study is not a representative survey. Although our data set is large and diverse enough for our research questions, it cannot be used for generalizations such as “respondents believe …” or “scientists don’t believe …” Our research reconstructs the frames the members of a professional association hold about the issue and the argumentative patterns and legitimation strategies these professionals use when articulating their assumptions. Our research does not investigate the distribution of these frames and, thus, does not allow for any conclusions in this direction. We do point this out several times in the paper, and it is important to highlight it again.

And finally, even the characterization of their study for the narrow sample they did examine was incorrectly protrayed by Forbes:

In addition, even within the confines of our non-representative data set, the interpretation that a majority of the respondents believe that nature is the primary cause of global warming is simply not correct. To the contrary: the majority believes that humans do have their hands in climate change, even if many of them believe that humans are not the only cause.

When you sample a representative survey of climate scientists in general, the consensus is overwhelming:

Examining the Scientific Consensus on Climate Change - Doran - 2009 - Eos, Transactions American Geophysical Union - Wiley Online Library

Between 90% to 97% back human caused climate change.

 

[Rustic]

Kasich outed himself as another illegal loving traitor to his country. Are these clowns dense in the head or something? We are sick and tired of the millions of illegals pouring into this country, killing, raping, robbing our citizens, committing all manner of crimes, brazenly breaking our laws, jumping on the public assistance dole, sticking us with their healthcare and education costs, enough already GET OUT!

Once progressives get that cushy job, they will do anything to keep it...

 

[Davros]

libs are losers who lie to themselves

spamming the board is pathetic

everything you post can be rebutted one by one. poor desperate loser! lol

He says before spamming the board with misleading articles.

 

[bedowin62]

THE ONLY supporting of the Tea Party that mattes is with the ones who elected them dullard.

just what do you want to see done with them since you say they are so unpopular you mindless moron?
AGAIN if you dont like democracy move to North Korea

 

[rightwinger]

Kasich had no chance anyway.

Which doesn't undermine the truth of his statement.

Kasich will still make a great VP candidate

 

[BluesLegend]

Kasich outed himself as another illegal loving traitor to his country. Are these clowns dense in the head or something? We are sick and tired of the millions of illegals pouring into this country, killing, raping, robbing our citizens, committing all manner of crimes, brazenly breaking our laws, jumping on the public assistance dole, sticking us with their healthcare and education costs, enough already GET OUT!

Then why do most Americans support immigration reform and a path for citizenship?

Two in three U.S. adults favor a plan to allow immigrants who are living illegally in the U.S. to remain in the country and become citizens if they meet certain requirements over time.

In U.S., 65% Favor Path to Citizenship for Illegal Immigrants

Are they and those that believe that illegals should be allowed to work here for a limited time all 'traitors' too?

They don't, welcome to reality.

So the polling is all wrong. And you're right.....

Because you say so?

I won't debate the left's lies and propaganda nonsense. Kasich should go run for office in Mexico.

 

[Davros]

THE ONLY supporting of the Tea Party that mattes is with the ones who elected them dullard.

just what do you want to see done with them since you say they are so unpopular you mindless moron?
AGAIN if you dont like democracy move to North Korea

The tea party does not have a majority in congress.

 

[bedowin62]

who opposes this majority dullard???

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[Rustic]

The last two presidential elections no conservatives showed up to the polls just Rinos...

Your perception is my point. The fringe right perception of 'conservative' is so narrow, so exclusionary, so extreme.....that almost no republicans meet it. No moderates do. And obviously no liberals do.

In all of congress......perhaps 40 folks meet your definition. And among the general public, fewer still.

Actually, most Americans support lower taxes, balanced budgets, and secured borders. It's too bad the Republican Party got hijacked by Neocon/Progressive assholes. It's time to clean house.

So what? Most Americans support Medicare and Medicaid too. Most Americans want to have their cake and eat it too. Sane politicians realize tough choices have to be made that will be largely unpopular.

Bigger Government and Open Borders is not what most Republicans want. And they haven't been properly represented. It's time to change that.

We don't have 'open borders'. And on virtually every policy position by your hard right fringe, the American public is on the other side.

They oppose PP funding. The American people support it.
They oppose same sex marriage. The American people support it.
They oppose raising the minimum wage. The American people support it.
They oppose there being a minimum wage. The American people support it.
They oppose any global warming measures. The American people support it.
They denounce the very idea of climate change. The American people support it.
They oppose expanding environmental protections. The American people support it.
They oppose improving ties with Cuba. The American people support improved relations with Cuba.
They want an expanded role for the US military overseas. The American people don't.
They oppose immigration reform. The American people support it.
They support the Tea Party. Americans overwhelminly don't with support at record low.
They support lowering capital gains taxes. Most Americans support raising them.
They oppose net neutrality. The American people support it.
They oppose a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. The American people support it.

Our borders are like a screen door on a submarine, stopping nothing.

 

[paddymurphy]

Excitement over Trump and Carson? By a minority of Republicans responding to polls. And you mistake amusement for excitement.

The last two presidential elections no conservatives showed up to the polls just Rinos...

Your perception is my point. The fringe right perception of 'conservative' is so narrow, so exclusionary, so extreme.....that almost no republicans meet it. No moderates do. And obviously no liberals do.

In all of congress......perhaps 40 folks meet your definition. And among the general public, fewer still.

No, the last two presidential Rinos received hardly any votes in the elections, hence losing.
If the real conservatives ran they would have won, because a good number of people would have actually showed up to the polls. There for winning.

So, in the Republican primary where most conservatives vote, they were not able to select a "real" conservative but in the general election, where everyone votes, including the majority party, the democrats, and moderates in the middle, the conservatives would suddenly win? Do you have any idea how stupid that argument is?

Progressives run the Rino party, that simple.

Go form your own party then.

 

[Rustic]

THE ONLY supporting of the Tea Party that mattes is with the ones who elected them dullard.

just what do you want to see done with them since you say they are so unpopular you mindless moron?
AGAIN if you dont like democracy move to North Korea

The tea party does not have a majority in congress.

Bingo!!!
The progressives do...

 

[bedowin62]

who opposes THIS majority dimwit/?


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[paddymurphy]

THE ONLY supporting of the Tea Party that mattes is with the ones who elected them dullard.

just what do you want to see done with them since you say they are so unpopular you mindless moron?
AGAIN if you dont like democracy move to North Korea

The tea party does not have a majority in congress.

Bingo!!!
The progressives do...

Because more Americans agree with what you falsely call progressive.

 

[bedowin62]

who denies a majority of Americans FEEL THIS WAY???



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[bedowin62]

THE ONLY supporting of the Tea Party that mattes is with the ones who elected them dullard.

just what do you want to see done with them since you say they are so unpopular you mindless moron?
AGAIN if you dont like democracy move to North Korea

The tea party does not have a majority in congress.

Bingo!!!
The progressives do...

Because more Americans agree with what you falsely call progressive.

YAWN
every time a left-wing loser is confronted with PROGRESSIVE FAILURE he starts crying he never really had any power

 

[BluesLegend]

Kasich outed himself as another illegal loving traitor to his country. Are these clowns dense in the head or something? We are sick and tired of the millions of illegals pouring into this country, killing, raping, robbing our citizens, committing all manner of crimes, brazenly breaking our laws, jumping on the public assistance dole, sticking us with their healthcare and education costs, enough already GET OUT!

Once progressives get that cushy job, they will do anything to keep it...

That's true across government and party lines.

 

[Rustic]

Please... listen to yourself and try not to sound too stupid.

TRADITIONALLY, the republican base is CONSERVATIVE... not moderate, and certainly not LIBERAL. Now the TRUE, TRADITIONAL, CONSERVATIVE BASE of the republican party is FED UP with this moderate horse crap, which basically means DEM LITE. They want the republican party to GET BACK to it's traditional CONSERVATIVE platforms, and that's what Trump, Carson and Cruz are doing, and that's why they're KILLING their "moderate" presidential competition.

What part about that are you missing? You been on a long vacation on another planet or something, or do you just enjoy regurgitating leftist BS?

"GET BACK to it's traditional CONSERVATIVE platforms" And in what years do you suppose the Republican party platform was more conservative than it is now? When Eisenhower ran? Nixon? Reagan or either Bush?

Irrelevant.

No, very relevant. As 'unprecedented' and 'traditional' are mutually exclusive.

No, irrelevant. The issue at hand is the upcoming presidential election and the future of the conservative agenda, not the distant past.

When we're discussing 'traditional conservative platforms', congress never having been this conservative in this century would be immediately relevant.

You've abandoned that argument. And well you should have. You were going no where.

Over the last couple decades congress the least conservative in history, vast majority of members are and have been progressives.