More Liberals, Fewer Conservatives

[JakeStarkey]

Edgetho, a mouth of the far right failure, posts leader boards as evidence of what?

That you're too stupid to understand what it means

Says the little boy on the playground.

Your post is evidence of what? Come on, Huckleberry.

 

[Two Thumbs]

this is just proof that you can buy votes.

 

[Pogo]

Did the poll first set out by defining what it means by "Liberal" and "Conservatve"? Without that, this poll is pretty much meaningless.

People generally know what they are.

If you ask 1 person, that person might be confused. If you ask 1,000 people, they'll be pretty accurate.

People know what they are. What they're less likely to know is -- which definition you're using when you toss out a term that's commonly deliberately misused. If that's not specified, then all meaning is lost.

I refer you back to the article's own errant confusion of "Liberal" with "socialist" and "left". Dead giveaway. And you can see the same confusion in these forums.

 

[RandallFlagg]

There are not more liberals, they just have the biggest, loudest mouths

How many Conservatives do you see in here? (from the front page)

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Hell, All I see are clowns.....

 

[SuperDemocrat]

On social issues, liberals matched conservatives for the first time ever, and will soon be the majority.

On Social Ideology the Left Catches Up to the Right

Since people tend to become more liberal as they age and mature, this is all especially bad news for conservatives. Because of young voters replacing old voters who died, the liberals gained a few million more voters between 2012 and 2016.

Since fewer now have jobs and are on the public dole, far be it from them to bite the hand that gives them "free money".

The old MO of increasing the proletariat.

I think young people just getting weary of the increasingly mean spirited tone of conservatives. They tell young people that they are on their own while not seeming to care about their issues like student debt, the environment or lack of opportunity.

And it is going to continue to be that way as long as people keep voting liberal. It is just a matter of time before the economic pain causes people to make a dramatic shift to the right. It might take a full twenty years to finally weed this garbage out but that is the way it is going to be because it appears no republican can win the whitehouse.

 

[RandallFlagg]

On social issues, liberals matched conservatives for the first time ever, and will soon be the majority.

On Social Ideology the Left Catches Up to the Right

Since people tend to become more liberal as they age and mature, this is all especially bad news for conservatives. Because of young voters replacing old voters who died, the liberals gained a few million more voters between 2012 and 2016.

Since fewer now have jobs and are on the public dole, far be it from them to bite the hand that gives them "free money".

The old MO of increasing the proletariat.

I think young people just getting weary of the increasingly mean spirited tone of conservatives. They tell young people that they are on their own while not seeming to care about their issues like student debt, the environment or lack of opportunity.

And it is going to continue to be that way as long as people keep voting liberal. It is just a matter of time before the economic pain causes people to make a dramatic shift to the right. It might take a full twenty years to finally weed this garbage out but that is the way it is going to be because it appears no republican can win the whitehouse.

And if Hillary (the bitch) is elected - this country is lost.

 

[occupied]

On social issues, liberals matched conservatives for the first time ever, and will soon be the majority.

On Social Ideology the Left Catches Up to the Right

Since people tend to become more liberal as they age and mature, this is all especially bad news for conservatives. Because of young voters replacing old voters who died, the liberals gained a few million more voters between 2012 and 2016.

Since fewer now have jobs and are on the public dole, far be it from them to bite the hand that gives them "free money".

The old MO of increasing the proletariat.

I think young people just getting weary of the increasingly mean spirited tone of conservatives. They tell young people that they are on their own while not seeming to care about their issues like student debt, the environment or lack of opportunity.

And it is going to continue to be that way as long as people keep voting liberal. It is just a matter of time before the economic pain causes people to make a dramatic shift to the right. It might take a full twenty years to finally weed this garbage out but that is the way it is going to be because it appears no republican can win the whitehouse.

That really makes no sense, current trends do not support your theory. The pendulum has swung right for a very long time, the apex of the swing occurred when republicans nearly defaulted the government and crashed the economy with their debt ceiling stunt. Now all they do is gripe with their fatalistic bullshit that we can no longer afford to do great things or tackle the hard challenges. These young kids want some optimism and courage, republicans have abandoned it.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Whatever. A real liberal would not vote for a democrat.

 

[mamooth]

I don't know who the hell said it - I heard it was Winston Churchill (but I didn't attribute it because I don't know).

Given that Churchill was more conservative when young and more liberal when old, you can be certain he never said such a foolish thing.

Prove me wrong that people don't become more conservative with maturity.

Busting Myth People Turn More Liberal With Age

 

[RandallFlagg]

On social issues, liberals matched conservatives for the first time ever, and will soon be the majority.

On Social Ideology the Left Catches Up to the Right

Since people tend to become more liberal as they age and mature, this is all especially bad news for conservatives. Because of young voters replacing old voters who died, the liberals gained a few million more voters between 2012 and 2016.

Since fewer now have jobs and are on the public dole, far be it from them to bite the hand that gives them "free money".

The old MO of increasing the proletariat.

I think young people just getting weary of the increasingly mean spirited tone of conservatives. They tell young people that they are on their own while not seeming to care about their issues like student debt, the environment or lack of opportunity.

And it is going to continue to be that way as long as people keep voting liberal. It is just a matter of time before the economic pain causes people to make a dramatic shift to the right. It might take a full twenty years to finally weed this garbage out but that is the way it is going to be because it appears no republican can win the whitehouse.

That really makes no sense, current trends do not support your theory. The pendulum has swung right for a very long time, the apex of the swing occurred when republicans nearly defaulted the government and crashed the economy with their debt ceiling stunt. Now all they do is gripe with their fatalistic bullshit that we can no longer afford to do great things or tackle the hard challenges. These young kids want some optimism and courage, republicans have abandoned it.

So, we'll put you strongly in Hillary's column. She, like Obama will save us all, right?

 

[JoeB131]

Since fewer now have jobs and are on the public dole, far be it from them to bite the hand that gives them "free money".

The old MO of increasing the proletariat.

But why do fewer of them have jobs?

Mostly because rich people have either replaced them with machines, sent their jobs overseas or imposed on their co-workers to work twice as hard for less money.

"The Capitalist will sell the Communist the rope we use to hang him." - Vladimir Lenin.

 

[kaz]

At least that's the conclusion of a WSJ article.

Conservatives still outnumber liberals, but not as much as in the past.

In three national polls conducted so far in 2015, the analysis found that 26% of registered voters identified themselves as liberals — up from 23% in 2014. At the same time, the share of voters identifying as conservatives dropped to 33% from 37% in 2014.

The analysis by GOP pollster Bill McInturff, who looked at survey data from 2010 to 2015, found that the biggest ideological shifts came among women, young people, Latinos and well-educated voters, as well as people in the West and in cities. ...

Mr. McInturff said it wasn’t immediately clear what accounts for the shift. Another poll analysis by Gallup also suggests there has been a leftward movement on social issues: 31% of adults in a May 6-10 poll identified themselves as liberal on social issues — the largest share since Gallup started asking the question in 1999, and the first time social liberals matched the share who said they were socially conservative. On economic issues, by contrast, conservatives continued to dominate by a 39%-19% margin. ...

“Americans’ growing social liberalism is evident not only in how they describe their views on social issues but also in changes in specific attitudes, such as increased support for same-sex marriage and legalizing marijuana,” the Gallup report said.

Mr. McInturff’s analysis of WSJ/NBC data found that the demographic group that now has the most liberals – and that has seen the most dramatic swing to the left since 2010 — is women aged 18-49. Among those voters in 2015 polls, 37% said they were liberal, 23% said they were conservative — a 20 point swing since 2010 when 27% said they were liberal and 33% said they were conservative.

Younger voters also saw a notable swing to the left, with 35% of 18-34-year-olds saying they are liberal and 26% saying the are conservative. In 2010, that age group split 28% liberal-32% conservative.​

Liberals Make Big Comeback in 2015 Poll Analysis Finds - Washington Wire - WSJ

You look at all the liberals on this site who call themselves moderates and even conservatives and I don't know how much stock I put in self ratings

 

[RandallFlagg]

I don't know who the hell said it - I heard it was Winston Churchill (but I didn't attribute it because I don't know).

Given that Churchill was more conservative when young and more liberal when old, you can be certain he never said such a foolish thing.

Prove me wrong that people don't become more conservative with maturity.

Busting Myth People Turn More Liberal With Age

Why Are Older People More Conservative Psychology Today


See, I can post links, too.

 

[kaz]

I think young people just getting weary of the increasingly mean spirited tone of conservatives.

What a hypocrite

 

[kaz]

Since fewer now have jobs and are on the public dole, far be it from them to bite the hand that gives them "free money".

The old MO of increasing the proletariat.

But why do fewer of them have jobs?

Mostly because rich people have either replaced them with machines, sent their jobs overseas or imposed on their co-workers to work twice as hard for less money.

"The Capitalist will sell the Communist the rope we use to hang him." - Vladimir Lenin.

Yeah, we need more low end jobs turning wrenches, that's what will make our country richer

 

[JoeB131]

You look at all the liberals on this site who call themselves moderates and even conservatives and I don't know how much stock I put in self ratings

I agree with that. SO let's look at what the two idealogies are actually selling.

Now, the reason why I considered myself a conservative for so many years is because to my mind, the notion of someone taking 40% of my wealth and giving it to people on welfare or no-work government jobs was kind of offensive. I'm still not really keen on it.

But the conservative message, after their philosophy has FAILED to bring working folks prosperity they've promised us for the last 30 years, is that we should all just be happier working harder for less money and be glad when big corporations screw us. And when their greed wrecks the economy like it did in 2008, we should all be happy to pay their bailouts.

"But, but, but... that's not real conservatism" you'll whine. Right. The idealogical koolaid drinkers would have let the whole thing collapse, because, hey, fuck you, working people. They read that in an Ayn Rand novel once, and forget old Ayn went on social security and medicare to extend her useless life.

 

[Edgetho]

liberturdians are SERIOUSLY hurting the Conservative movement.

After Ted Cruz (aka; Mr Haney from Green Acres) shut the government down a year and a half ago -- That absolutely KILLED us.

Before that were the complete liberturdian IMBECILES Todd (legitimate rape) Akin and Richard (God intended for that rape to give you a baby) Mourdock.

And Christine (I am not a Witch) O'Donnell and.... A lot more.

liberturdians are hurting the movement. We thought they were our friends. They are not. They are an infliction and they need to go

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, we need more low end jobs turning wrenches, that's what will make our country richer

We did pretty well when the wrench turning jobs paid good money and the wealth was more evenly distributed. thanks for playing.

 

[mamooth]

See, I can post links, too.

But your link defined conservative as "set in their ways", not by a political barometer. So if their ways are already liberal, your study says they'll became more solidly liberal.

My link. OTOH, pointed out people tend towards more liberal political positions as they age. Common sense, really. For example, someone who was a rabid segregationist in their youth is probably not a rabid segregationist now.

So, they're not really contradictory. People tend to keep the same political positions, but if they do change, they tend to change towards the liberal.

 

[JoeB131]

liberturdians are SERIOUSLY hurting the Conservative movement.

After Ted Cruz (aka; Mr Haney from Green Acres) shut the government down a year and a half ago -- That absolutely KILLED us.

Before that were the complete liberturdian IMBECILES Todd (legitimate rape) Akin and Richard (God intended for that rape to give you a baby) Mourdock.

And Christine (I am not a Witch) O'Donnell and.... A lot more.

liberturdians are hurting the movement. We thought they were our friends. They are not. They are an infliction and they need to go

okay, while I'm always happy to see you guys fight amongst yourselves, what is your philosophy?