MSNBC socialist Sees the Light.

[Freewill]

What O'Donnell really accomplished, if not intentionally, was to give himself an extra measure of credibility in the future when he does rip the Kochs.

Doubtful, he didn't change his party affiliation nor his political leaning, so he still has little creds. More like he found an acorn.

 

[Ibentoken]

The evil Koch brothers also gave 25 million to the United Negro College Fund.

 

[Ibentoken]

Bottom line is,

a civilized, prosperous society should not have to depend on the whims of the super-rich in order to have great hospitals.

Who does George Soros give to?

 

[Ibentoken]

When David Koch gives up politics and gives all those megabucks to a decent charity that decent people can appreciate then I will consider him something other than a rich sociopath trying to play puppet master.

So how come you don't feel the same way about George Soros?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Bottom line is,

a civilized, prosperous society should not have to depend on the whims of the super-rich in order to have great hospitals.

Who does George Soros give to?

What does that have to do with my statement?

 

[NYcarbineer]

btw, this hospital is a NON-PROFIT. The best hospital of its kind in the country is a NON-PROFIT.

Now how is that possible when conservatives claim that the only path to excellence must include a profit incentive?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Did some of you miss the part in the clip where O'Donnell says he agrees with Harry Reid about the Koch brothers?

 

[Samson]

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Wow, good for him.

I wonder how many people gave pause to his very good point that an intelligent person can hold two opposing views in their mind and still function.

All I usually see from partisan ideologues is 100% this or 100% that.

My guess is that most chose not to complicate their comfy little worlds with that part.

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Indeed.

Their Predictability rarely compensates for their Ability to Bore.

 

[Ibentoken]

Bottom line is,

a civilized, prosperous society should not have to depend on the whims of the super-rich in order to have great hospitals.

Who does George Soros give to?

What does that have to do with my statement?

Kinda early to start playing dumb, isn't it.

 

[Ibentoken]

Did some of you miss the part in the clip where O'Donnell says he agrees with Harry Reid about the Koch brothers?

What does that have to do what anything?

 

[asterism]

Here is where you see the conflict of our current system vs. the "Fair Tax". Libertarians, Tea party and some Republicans are pushing for.

Today, the Rich are looking for ways to donate to charities because it's more profitable to, as the system is set up. If they don't donate, they will be taxed more! It's not a good hearted investment at all. It's simply a way to get more profit!

"Giving to the needy" sometimes brings your tax bracket down and it's extremely common for the rich to be forced to give to the needy so they get more profit.

Note; In the fair tax, they just assume people will give to the needy. Because so much is given already.........(They never mention it's the churches)

There is no way for high income earners to get more profit through charitable giving. That's only possible for people below Alternative Minimum Tax thresholds.

 

[Camp]

As of this morning the Koch brothers were worth 41.3 billion dollars, 6 billion dollars more than they were worth last year. Soros was worth 23.8 billion dollars.
They could give hundreds of millions of dollars away and it's like you or me buying a sandwich for a homeless guy.

David Koch - Forbes

 

[NYcarbineer]

Did some of you miss the part in the clip where O'Donnell says he agrees with Harry Reid about the Koch brothers?

What does that have to do what anything?

What 'light' are you referring to in the thread title?

 

[Machaut]

Here is where you see the conflict of our current system vs. the "Fair Tax". Libertarians, Tea party and some Republicans are pushing for.

Today, the Rich are looking for ways to donate to charities because it's more profitable to, as the system is set up. If they don't donate, they will be taxed more! It's not a good hearted investment at all. It's simply a way to get more profit!

"Giving to the needy" sometimes brings your tax bracket down and it's extremely common for the rich to be forced to give to the needy so they get more profit.

I am not convinced that you understand how this works. Explain in greater detail.

Note; In the fair tax, they just assume people will give to the needy. Because so much is given already.........(They never mention it's the churches)

I am not convinced that you understand what point you're trying to make here. Explain in greater detail.

 

[asterism]

They could donate a hell of a lot more to a hell of a lot more places.

Billionaires write their donations off of their taxes. They aren't humanitarians.

Explain to me how you think that works.

$25 Million in donations means there is a tax burden reduction of $5 Million (assuming 20% capital gains rate). Does that make the person more or less wealthy than not donating at all?

 

[Ibentoken]

Did some of you miss the part in the clip where O'Donnell says he agrees with Harry Reid about the Koch brothers?

What does that have to do what anything?

What 'light' are you referring to in the thread title?

An awakening. Larry awoke to the fact that the Koch brothers do good with money. How much has George Soros given to charities?

 

[NYcarbineer]

As of this morning the Koch brothers were worth 41.3 billion dollars, 6 billion dollars more than they were worth last year. Soros was worth 23.8 billion dollars.
They could give hundreds of millions of dollars away and it's like you or me buying a sandwich for a homeless guy.

David Koch - Forbes

Haven't you heard? Buying a homeless guy a sandwich makes him lazy and perpetuates his poverty. Charity HARMS the needy,

if you believe the RWnuts around here.

 

[NYcarbineer]

What does that have to do what anything?

What 'light' are you referring to in the thread title?

An awakening. Larry awoke to the fact that the Koch brothers do good with money. How much has George Soros given to charities?

Do you have any evidence that O'Donnell up until this episode had no idea that super-rich rightwingers give money to charities?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Who does George Soros give to?

What does that have to do with my statement?

Kinda early to start playing dumb, isn't it.

Your response had nothing to do with my statement.

 

[Mac1958]

Did some of you miss the part in the clip where O'Donnell says he agrees with Harry Reid about the Koch brothers?

Wow, you really are a True Believer. It's like you're genetically prohibited from giving even an inch, even as much as O'Donnell did.

I wonder what you think would happen if you did.

Fascinating stuff.

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