Nah, Democrats would never cheat the elections

[Dad2three]

Why New Photo ID Laws Mean Some Won't Vote


Why New Photo ID Laws Mean Some Won't Vote

Because they are illegal aliens?

I couldn't care less if some people are too lazy to get a fucking photo ID and vote. It's better if they don't vote.

I get it Bubba, you PREFER to make it harder to vote, you've shown that over and over!



Paul Weyrich - "I don't want everybody to vote" (Goo Goo)

Paul Weyrich, "father" of the right-wing movement and co-founder of the Heritage Foundation, Moral Majority and various other groups tells his flock that he doesn't want people to vote.

So? What's so good about everyone voting? More than half the people of this country are dumbasses who aren't qualified to vote for head dog catcher, let alone vote for the President of the United States.

TRUE

The ones collecting welfare (the poorest) in those states are almost all Democrats. See, being a red state doesn't mean you don't have any Democrats in your state. If you wern't such a dumbass libturd you would know that.

It’s Official: White Folks in Red States are the Biggest Food Stamp ‘Moochers’ in the Country!


Statistics reveal that the city holding the most beneficiaries of the SNAP program (a favorite target of the GOP) is 99.22% white and 95% Republican. Owsley County, Kentucky earns the lowest median household income in the country, but they are the most prolific government-takers in U.S. existence.



According to a TIME analysis of county-by-county food stamp enrollment data, GOP politicians represent more districts that majorly participate in SNAP than Democrats.


It’s Official: White Folks in Red States are the Biggest Food Stamp ‘Moochers’ in the Country!

 

[Dad2three]

This bill would require the Secretary of State and the Department of Motor Vehicles to establish the California New Motor Voter Program for the purpose of increasing opportunities for voter registration by any person who is qualified to be a voter. Under the program, after the Secretary of State certifies that certain enumerated conditions are satisfied, the Department of Motor Vehicles would be required to electronically provide to the Secretary of State the records of each person who is issued an original or renewal of a driver’s license or state identification card or who provides the department with a change of address, as specified. The person’s motor vehicle records would then constitute a completed affidavit of registration and the person would be registered to vote, unless the person affirmatively declined to be registered to vote during a transaction with the department, the department did not represent to the Secretary of State that the person attested that he or she meets all voter eligibility requirements, as specified, or the Secretary of State determines that the person is ineligible to vote.


The bill would require the Secretary of State to adopt regulations to implement this program, as specified.


Existing law makes it a crime for a person to willfully cause, procure, or allow himself or herself or any other person to be registered as a voter, knowing that he or she or that other person is not entitled to registration. Existing law also makes it a crime to fraudulently vote or attempt to vote.


This bill would provide that if a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote by operation of the California New Motor Voter Program in the absence of a violation by that person of the crime described above, that person’s registration shall be presumed to have been effected with official authorization and not the fault of that person.


Bill Text - AB-1461 Voter registration: California New Motor Voter Program.

The law doesn't state than non-citizens can't be registered to vote. End of discussion.

"The bill would require the Secretary of State to adopt regulations to implement this program, as specified."


"Existing law makes it a crime for a person to willfully cause, procure, or allow himself or herself or any other person to be registered as a voter, knowing that he or she or that other person is not entitled to registration. Existing law also makes it a crime to fraudulently vote or attempt to vote."

Existing law doesn't take measures to ensure they are legal to vote, do that provision is toothless.

An epidemic of fraud happening huh wingnutter?

New database of US voter fraud finds no evidence that photo ID laws are needed - Investigations

You're just another dumbass who ignores the fact that without requiring voter ID, fraud can't be detected.

Says the Bigger Gov't Klown for no reason. Weird

 

[Dad2three]

Agree.....CA has ensured that the issued driver licenses to aliens CANNOT be used for voting......Now, lets eradicate those 31 incidences out of one BILLION voter frauds

If they are registered to vote and photo ID isn't required, then how would that stop them?

TRY to use LOGIC. Why would someone risk a FELONY to use ONE vote to try to swing an election? Perhaps THAT'S why Dubya's FIVE YEAR DOJ UNPRECEDENTED INVESTIGATION COULDN'T PROSECUTE A SINGLE PERSON FOR DOING IT!!!

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They aren't risking a felony if they can't be caught, and without requiring a photo ID, they can't be caught.

Sure Bubs, sure... lol


VOTING ID'S ONLY STOP THOSE IMPERSONATING OTHERS FROM VOTING. DON'T THINK THE GOP HATE GROUPS WILL SPEND MILLIONS TO FIND THE ONE VOTER WHO SLIPPED THROUGH? lol

How would they find him?

Names, addresses Bubba? You know like when the GOP's PURGES , LEGALLY registered voters today?


Voter Purges

 

[bripat9643]

If they are registered to vote and photo ID isn't required, then how would that stop them?

TRY to use LOGIC. Why would someone risk a FELONY to use ONE vote to try to swing an election? Perhaps THAT'S why Dubya's FIVE YEAR DOJ UNPRECEDENTED INVESTIGATION COULDN'T PROSECUTE A SINGLE PERSON FOR DOING IT!!!

,

They aren't risking a felony if they can't be caught, and without requiring a photo ID, they can't be caught.

Sure Bubs, sure... lol


VOTING ID'S ONLY STOP THOSE IMPERSONATING OTHERS FROM VOTING. DON'T THINK THE GOP HATE GROUPS WILL SPEND MILLIONS TO FIND THE ONE VOTER WHO SLIPPED THROUGH? lol

How would they find him?

Names, addresses Bubba? You know like when the GOP's PURGES , LEGALLY registered voters today?


Voter Purges

How would they know if any given name on the voter roles was used by someone else to vote?

 

[Dad2three]

in other words, Ronald Reagan had a birth certificate and wouldn't have been barred from voting.

Why New Photo ID Laws Mean Some Won't Vote


Why New Photo ID Laws Mean Some Won't Vote

Because they are illegal aliens?

I couldn't care less if some people are too lazy to get a fucking photo ID and vote. It's better if they don't vote.

I get it Bubba, you PREFER to make it harder to vote, you've shown that over and over!



Paul Weyrich - "I don't want everybody to vote" (Goo Goo)

Paul Weyrich, "father" of the right-wing movement and co-founder of the Heritage Foundation, Moral Majority and various other groups tells his flock that he doesn't want people to vote.

I may have lauded your previous post but it seems more than a little bit hypocritical to decry requirements for id's to vote while, simultaneously, requiring id's, background checks, fingerprints and fees in order to exercise another constitutionally protected right

Really? The right to vote kill anyone today?

And until the ACTIVIST court recently, their was NO precedent for an individuals right to bear arms, just MILITIAS!

 

[Dad2three]

TRY to use LOGIC. Why would someone risk a FELONY to use ONE vote to try to swing an election? Perhaps THAT'S why Dubya's FIVE YEAR DOJ UNPRECEDENTED INVESTIGATION COULDN'T PROSECUTE A SINGLE PERSON FOR DOING IT!!!

,

They aren't risking a felony if they can't be caught, and without requiring a photo ID, they can't be caught.

Sure Bubs, sure... lol


VOTING ID'S ONLY STOP THOSE IMPERSONATING OTHERS FROM VOTING. DON'T THINK THE GOP HATE GROUPS WILL SPEND MILLIONS TO FIND THE ONE VOTER WHO SLIPPED THROUGH? lol

How would they find him?

Names, addresses Bubba? You know like when the GOP's PURGES , LEGALLY registered voters today?


Voter Purges

How would they know if any given name on the voter roles was used by someone else to vote?

One vote at a time voter fraud huh? LOL

 

[Dad2three]

This bill would require the Secretary of State and the Department of Motor Vehicles to establish the California New Motor Voter Program for the purpose of increasing opportunities for voter registration by any person who is qualified to be a voter. Under the program, after the Secretary of State certifies that certain enumerated conditions are satisfied, the Department of Motor Vehicles would be required to electronically provide to the Secretary of State the records of each person who is issued an original or renewal of a driver’s license or state identification card or who provides the department with a change of address, as specified. The person’s motor vehicle records would then constitute a completed affidavit of registration and the person would be registered to vote, unless the person affirmatively declined to be registered to vote during a transaction with the department, the department did not represent to the Secretary of State that the person attested that he or she meets all voter eligibility requirements, as specified, or the Secretary of State determines that the person is ineligible to vote.


The bill would require the Secretary of State to adopt regulations to implement this program, as specified.


Existing law makes it a crime for a person to willfully cause, procure, or allow himself or herself or any other person to be registered as a voter, knowing that he or she or that other person is not entitled to registration. Existing law also makes it a crime to fraudulently vote or attempt to vote.


This bill would provide that if a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote by operation of the California New Motor Voter Program in the absence of a violation by that person of the crime described above, that person’s registration shall be presumed to have been effected with official authorization and not the fault of that person.


Bill Text - AB-1461 Voter registration: California New Motor Voter Program.

The law doesn't state than non-citizens can't be registered to vote. End of discussion.

"The bill would require the Secretary of State to adopt regulations to implement this program, as specified."


"Existing law makes it a crime for a person to willfully cause, procure, or allow himself or herself or any other person to be registered as a voter, knowing that he or she or that other person is not entitled to registration. Existing law also makes it a crime to fraudulently vote or attempt to vote."

Existing law doesn't take measures to ensure they are legal to vote, do that provision is toothless.

An epidemic of fraud happening huh wingnutter?

New database of US voter fraud finds no evidence that photo ID laws are needed - Investigations

You're just another dumbass who ignores the fact that without requiring voter ID, fraud can't be detected.

A new nationwide analysis of 2,068 alleged election-fraud cases since 2000 shows that while fraud has occurred, the rate is infinitesimal, and in-person voter impersonation on Election Day, which prompted 37 state legislatures to enact or consider tough voter ID laws, is virtually non-existent.


Nah, Democrats would never cheat the elections | Page 14 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[bripat9643]

in other words, Ronald Reagan had a birth certificate and wouldn't have been barred from voting.

Why New Photo ID Laws Mean Some Won't Vote


Why New Photo ID Laws Mean Some Won't Vote

Because they are illegal aliens?

I couldn't care less if some people are too lazy to get a fucking photo ID and vote. It's better if they don't vote.

I get it Bubba, you PREFER to make it harder to vote, you've shown that over and over!



Paul Weyrich - "I don't want everybody to vote" (Goo Goo)

Paul Weyrich, "father" of the right-wing movement and co-founder of the Heritage Foundation, Moral Majority and various other groups tells his flock that he doesn't want people to vote.

I may have lauded your previous post but it seems more than a little bit hypocritical to decry requirements for id's to vote while, simultaneously, requiring id's, background checks, fingerprints and fees in order to exercise another constitutionally protected right

Really? The right to vote kill anyone today?

And until the ACTIVIST court recently, their was NO precedent for an individuals right to bear arms, just MILITIAS!

THe 2nd Amendment doesn't grant anyone the right to kill anyone. The 2nd Amendment has always protected the right of individuals to bear arms. That's what "the people" means everywhere else it's used in the Constitution. That's what jurists have interpreted it to mean.

 

[nat4900]

If they are registered to vote

Who the hell told you they're registered to vote?????

....but, take heart, there are a few other dimwits like you who actually "thank you" for your stupidity.

 

[nat4900]

I may have lauded your previous post but it seems more than a little bit hypocritical to decry requirements for id's to vote while, simultaneously, requiring id's, background checks, fingerprints and fees in order to exercise another constitutionally protected right

Perhaps you may think its highly "hypocritical"...however, if someone votes illegally, it may not constitute the end of democracy...whereas a criminal gets a hold of a gun illegally, your sorry ass may be on the line because of a mass murder spree.....If you can't see the difference, stop a grown walking by your basement window and ask for clarification.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

in other words, Ronald Reagan had a birth certificate and wouldn't have been barred from voting.

Why New Photo ID Laws Mean Some Won't Vote


Why New Photo ID Laws Mean Some Won't Vote

Because they are illegal aliens?

I couldn't care less if some people are too lazy to get a fucking photo ID and vote. It's better if they don't vote.

I get it Bubba, you PREFER to make it harder to vote, you've shown that over and over!



Paul Weyrich - "I don't want everybody to vote" (Goo Goo)

Paul Weyrich, "father" of the right-wing movement and co-founder of the Heritage Foundation, Moral Majority and various other groups tells his flock that he doesn't want people to vote.

I may have lauded your previous post but it seems more than a little bit hypocritical to decry requirements for id's to vote while, simultaneously, requiring id's, background checks, fingerprints and fees in order to exercise another constitutionally protected right

Really? The right to vote kill anyone today?

And until the ACTIVIST court recently, their was NO precedent for an individuals right to bear arms, just MILITIAS!

So who are the militias?

 

[nat4900]

They don't need an ID to vote, so what good does that do? If they were registered and they don't need an ID to vote, then what's stops them from voting?

Here's some dimwitted right winger who THEN basically is openly (but not having enough brain cells to realize it) stating that the original post of this thread is unadulterated bullshit.

Of course, Brip, what's to stop right wingers from ALSO cheating??? Come on, gather up some corpses and take them with you to the polls next Nov.like we "obviously" do.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

This bill would require the Secretary of State and the Department of Motor Vehicles to establish the California New Motor Voter Program for the purpose of increasing opportunities for voter registration by any person who is qualified to be a voter. Under the program, after the Secretary of State certifies that certain enumerated conditions are satisfied, the Department of Motor Vehicles would be required to electronically provide to the Secretary of State the records of each person who is issued an original or renewal of a driver’s license or state identification card or who provides the department with a change of address, as specified. The person’s motor vehicle records would then constitute a completed affidavit of registration and the person would be registered to vote, unless the person affirmatively declined to be registered to vote during a transaction with the department, the department did not represent to the Secretary of State that the person attested that he or she meets all voter eligibility requirements, as specified, or the Secretary of State determines that the person is ineligible to vote.


The bill would require the Secretary of State to adopt regulations to implement this program, as specified.


Existing law makes it a crime for a person to willfully cause, procure, or allow himself or herself or any other person to be registered as a voter, knowing that he or she or that other person is not entitled to registration. Existing law also makes it a crime to fraudulently vote or attempt to vote.


This bill would provide that if a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote by operation of the California New Motor Voter Program in the absence of a violation by that person of the crime described above, that person’s registration shall be presumed to have been effected with official authorization and not the fault of that person.


Bill Text - AB-1461 Voter registration: California New Motor Voter Program.

The law doesn't state than non-citizens can't be registered to vote. End of discussion.

"The bill would require the Secretary of State to adopt regulations to implement this program, as specified."


"Existing law makes it a crime for a person to willfully cause, procure, or allow himself or herself or any other person to be registered as a voter, knowing that he or she or that other person is not entitled to registration. Existing law also makes it a crime to fraudulently vote or attempt to vote."

That's fine and dandy if a person is trying to illegally register to vote. But what happens when the state automatically registers you? You're certainly not breaking any kind of law.

 

[nat4900]

You're just another dumbass who ignores the fact that without requiring voter ID, fraud can't be detected.

So, this thread has gone from CA allowing millions of aliens to vote.....to the old photo ID requirement....

So, let me ask you irate right wingers.....

Let's say I am an illegal....
I then have to find some idiot republican (like BriP), knock him over the head on election day, and THEN show up at the polls and cast my ILLEGAL LIBERAL vote.

 

[bripat9643]

They aren't risking a felony if they can't be caught, and without requiring a photo ID, they can't be caught.

Sure Bubs, sure... lol


VOTING ID'S ONLY STOP THOSE IMPERSONATING OTHERS FROM VOTING. DON'T THINK THE GOP HATE GROUPS WILL SPEND MILLIONS TO FIND THE ONE VOTER WHO SLIPPED THROUGH? lol

How would they find him?

Names, addresses Bubba? You know like when the GOP's PURGES , LEGALLY registered voters today?


Voter Purges

How would they know if any given name on the voter roles was used by someone else to vote?

One vote at a time voter fraud huh? LOL

That's how all voter fraud is committed, isn't it? Well, except for the cases where Democrat poll workers suddenly find uncounted ballots in the trunk of their car.

 

[bripat9643]

You're just another dumbass who ignores the fact that without requiring voter ID, fraud can't be detected.

So, thgis thread has gone from CA allowing millions of aliens to vote.....to the old photo ID requirement....

So, let me ask you irate right wingers.....

Let's say I am an illegal....
I then have to find some idiot republican (like BriP), knock him over the head on election day, and THEN show up at the polls and cast my ILLEGAL LIBERAL vote.

No, if the state registered you to vote, and the state doesn't require ID to vote, then you just show up to vote, regardless of what it says on you license.

Libs can't really be this stupid, can they?

 

[nat4900]

How would they know if any given name on the voter roles was used by someone else to vote?

Obviously, Brip hasn't yet EVER voted and doesn't know what the procedure (signing on the line with the voter's name) may be.....NOW, we've gotten in the other stupidity claim that those darn illegals are actually voting TWICE.

BTW, nitwit, "roles" are what actors play....."rolls" are voting registers and, of course, sweet breakfast treats.

 

[bripat9643]

How would they know if any given name on the voter roles was used by someone else to vote?

Obviously, Brip hasn't yet EVER voted and doesn't know what the procedure (signing on the line with the voter's name) may be.....NOW, we've gotten in the other stupidity claim that those darn illegals are actually voting TWICE.

BTW, nitwit, "roles" are what actors play....."rolls" are voting registers and, of course, sweet breakfast treats.

So you don't think an imposter can sign on the name of the person he's impersonating?

 

[Dad2three]

Why New Photo ID Laws Mean Some Won't Vote


Why New Photo ID Laws Mean Some Won't Vote

Because they are illegal aliens?

I couldn't care less if some people are too lazy to get a fucking photo ID and vote. It's better if they don't vote.

I get it Bubba, you PREFER to make it harder to vote, you've shown that over and over!



Paul Weyrich - "I don't want everybody to vote" (Goo Goo)

Paul Weyrich, "father" of the right-wing movement and co-founder of the Heritage Foundation, Moral Majority and various other groups tells his flock that he doesn't want people to vote.

I may have lauded your previous post but it seems more than a little bit hypocritical to decry requirements for id's to vote while, simultaneously, requiring id's, background checks, fingerprints and fees in order to exercise another constitutionally protected right

Really? The right to vote kill anyone today?

And until the ACTIVIST court recently, their was NO precedent for an individuals right to bear arms, just MILITIAS!

THe 2nd Amendment doesn't grant anyone the right to kill anyone. The 2nd Amendment has always protected the right of individuals to bear arms. That's what "the people" means everywhere else it's used in the Constitution. That's what jurists have interpreted it to mean.

Sure Bubs, sure. The activists SCOTUS NEVER before said it WAS an individual right, UNTIL ______ ?

It was ALWAYS a collectivist MILITIA right Bubs!

The second doesn't kill? Neither does Roe/Wade...

 

[Dad2three]

Why New Photo ID Laws Mean Some Won't Vote


Why New Photo ID Laws Mean Some Won't Vote

Because they are illegal aliens?

I couldn't care less if some people are too lazy to get a fucking photo ID and vote. It's better if they don't vote.

I get it Bubba, you PREFER to make it harder to vote, you've shown that over and over!



Paul Weyrich - "I don't want everybody to vote" (Goo Goo)

Paul Weyrich, "father" of the right-wing movement and co-founder of the Heritage Foundation, Moral Majority and various other groups tells his flock that he doesn't want people to vote.

I may have lauded your previous post but it seems more than a little bit hypocritical to decry requirements for id's to vote while, simultaneously, requiring id's, background checks, fingerprints and fees in order to exercise another constitutionally protected right

Really? The right to vote kill anyone today?

And until the ACTIVIST court recently, their was NO precedent for an individuals right to bear arms, just MILITIAS!

So who are the militias?

Well in CONTEXT of the Founders time, it was COMPROMISE legislation to allow the SOUTHERN CONservative slave states to have slave patrols Bubs!

Today, IMO, it's National Guard