Of Trump or Obama WHO has created more jobs???

[IM2]

Excuses. 1 percent is huge but the 5-6 percent Obama cut it had nothing to do with Obama.

Yeah, we understand.

You DON'T understand evidently, or pretend not to. Again, 2009-205 was not Obama. What happened could have happened if Ariana Grande was president.

Sure. But what Trump has done is the stroke of economic genius only he is capable of.

Yeah, we understand.

 

[Thinker101]

Excuses. 1 percent is huge but the 5-6 percent Obama cut it had nothing to do with Obama.

Yeah, we understand.

You DON'T understand evidently, or pretend not to. Again, 2009-205 was not Obama. What happened could have happened if Ariana Grande was president.

Sure. But what Trump has done is the stroke of economic genius only he is capable of.

Yeah, we understand.

Yep, Obama sure didn't have the magic wand...dumbass.

 

[IM2]

Sane people look at this chart and see that Obama reduced black unemployment 1 point per year for 7 years before Trump took office. It shows a downward trend that started during Obama and continued during Trump. Trump is taking credit for reducing black unemployment himself and that is something this chart shows did not happen.

 

[IM2]

Excuses. 1 percent is huge but the 5-6 percent Obama cut it had nothing to do with Obama.

Yeah, we understand.

You DON'T understand evidently, or pretend not to. Again, 2009-205 was not Obama. What happened could have happened if Ariana Grande was president.

Sure. But what Trump has done is the stroke of economic genius only he is capable of.

Yeah, we understand.

Yep, Obama sure didn't have the magic wand...dumbass.

Yeah, we understand.

 

[protectionist]

Excuses. 1 percent is huge but the 5-6 percent Obama cut it had nothing to do with Obama.

Yeah, we understand.

Just because Obama was around at the time, doesn't mean he gets credit. He do anything. Obama was a community organizer know nothing. He had no background in business economics. That's why Trump has been so successful.

 

[protectionist]

Sane people look at this chart and see that Obama reduced black unemployment 1 point per year for 7 years before Trump took office. It shows a downward trend that started during Obama and continued during Trump. Trump is taking credit for reducing black unemployment himself and that is something this chart shows did not happen.

That's exactly the OPPOSITE OF THE TRUTH. Obama did noting but sit by idly, while the economy and unemployment sprung back to normal on their own. Trump DOES get credit for rescuing us from Obama's lousy decline of GDP from 2.3 to 1.2 in 2016. And also in Obama's last year (2016) unemployment ROSE in 5 different months (March, April, June, August, and September)

2016 4.9 4.9 5.0 5.0 4.8 4.9 4.8 4.9 5.0 4.9 4.7 4.7
2017 4.7 4.7 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.3 4.3 4.4 4.2 4.1 4.2 4.1
2018 4.1 4.1 4.0 3.9 3.8 4.0 3.9 3.8 3.7 3.8 3.7 3.9
2019 4.0 3.8 3.8 3.6 3.6 3.7 3.7

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

 

[IM2]

Excuses. 1 percent is huge but the 5-6 percent Obama cut it had nothing to do with Obama.

Yeah, we understand.

Just because Obama was around at the time, doesn't mean he gets credit. He do anything. Obama was a community organizer know nothing. He had no background in business economics. That's why Trump has been so successful.

Trump has done nothing. He's the one giving himself credit just because he was around at the time.

The Worst Businessman in America
The revelations about Trump's taxes prove he was a grifter and a fraud, a braggart and a blowhard. In other words, he was the same man he is today.

Any dwindling belief that Donald Trump’s business career represented anything other than “The Art of the Scam” died Tuesday night when The New York Times reconstructed the president’s federal tax returns from 1985-1994. In a feat of forensic work worthy of a TV crime series, reporters Russ Buettner and Susanne Craig revealed that Trump lost $1.17 billion in a decade and “appears to have lost more money than any other individual American taxpayer.”

Trump’s dazzling failure helps explain how he and the Republicans have given the nation an era of nearly $1 trillion in annual deficits, despite the buoyant economy.

The Times’ scoop is bracing, even if it comes too late to convince Trump loyalists that they have been hoodwinked by a fraud (if they ever were convincible). What it does suggest is that no coverup lasts forever—and that, sooner or later, Trump’s more recent tax returns will be made public.

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has been stonewalling the House Ways and Means Committee’s demand, buttressed by a 1924 law, for the last six years of Trump’s federal returns. In a coincidence that might embarrass a political novelist, the Times’ story broke just as Mnuchin was attending a 2020 Trump fundraiser—the kind of event past treasure secretaries have avoided out of conflict-of-interest concerns.

But just as New York’s tabloid culture of the 1980s and 1990s made Trump, his residency in the state may ultimately break him. The New York legislature, which has its own hefty share of grifters, is moving toward approving a bill that would provide Trump’s state tax returns to the House Ways and Means Committee on request.

Since the information on state and federal taxes is virtually identical, such legislation might help solve the tantalizing mystery of why and how Trump, who worshipped debt, began paying for expensive properties (including golf courses) with cash in 2006. It is worth noting that the Mueller report neither went back that far nor scrutinized Trump’s finances.

The Times bombshell story also revealed that in business—if, alas, not yet in politics—Trump the Braggart eventually became exposed as Trump the Blowhard.

One of Trump’s few profit-making ventures in the late 1980s was his version of the age-old Wall Street boiler-room scam known as “pump and dump.” Repeatedly, Trump would announce that he was seeking to acquire majority control of a major company like United Airlines and then, when the stock jumped, he’d sell his relatively small holdings at a major profit. Trump pulled off the same scheme with publicly touted investments in Hilton Hotels, Gillette, and Federated Department Stores.

But stock analysts, with money on the line, noticed that Trump never followed through after his initial braggadocio about a takeover attempt. In late 1989, a purported Trumpian raid on American Airlines inspired mostly yawns and giggles. According to the Times’ analysis, Trump appeared to have lost more than $30 million when American Airlines stock dropped sharply.

Thus ended the ignominious saga of Donald Trump, Corporate Raider.

The Worst Businessman in America

 

[IM2]

Sane people look at this chart and see that Obama reduced black unemployment 1 point per year for 7 years before Trump took office. It shows a downward trend that started during Obama and continued during Trump. Trump is taking credit for reducing black unemployment himself and that is something this chart shows did not happen.

That's exactly the OPPOSITE OF THE TRUTH. Obama did noting but sit by idly, while the economy and unemployment sprung back to normal on their own. Trump DOES get credit for rescuing us from Obama's lousy decline of GDP from 2.3 to 1.2 in 2016. And also in Obama's last year (2016) unemployment ROSE in 5 different months (March, April, June, August, and September)

2016 4.9 4.9 5.0 5.0 4.8 4.9 4.8 4.9 5.0 4.9 4.7 4.7
2017 4.7 4.7 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.3 4.3 4.4 4.2 4.1 4.2 4.1
2018 4.1 4.1 4.0 3.9 3.8 4.0 3.9 3.8 3.7 3.8 3.7 3.9
2019 4.0 3.8 3.8 3.6 3.6 3.7 3.7

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Yeah, We understand.

 

[protectionist]

Yeah, We understand.

Which means you're lying. We understand THAT.

 

[rjs330]

Trump has been in "office" for 30 months, so compare how many jobs have been created in the first 30 months in office between these 2 presidents???

Its time to review one's cultist mentality with a strong dose of reality......

heres a little reality for you,,,

government doesnt create jobs,,,they only kill them,,,

Good point.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

bear513, post: 2294449

His Obama care was a job killer

What an idiot. We have record low unemployment with Obamacare in effect.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

protectionist, post: 22949045

Just because Obama was around at the time, doesn't mean he gets credit. He do anything. Obama was a community organizer know nothing. He had no background in business economics. That's why Trump has been so successful.

Why is TrumpO successful and Obama is not. The referenced chart shows absolutely no change in the rate of decline in black unemployment after TrumpO was inaugurated.

If Obama was doing nothing so must TrumoO be doing nothing.

 

[protectionist]

Trump has done nothing. He's the one giving himself credit just because he was around at the time.

The Worst Businessman in America
The revelations about Trump's taxes prove he was a grifter and a fraud, a braggart and a blowhard. In other words, he was the same man he is today.

Any dwindling belief that Donald Trump’s business career represented anything other than “The Art of the Scam” died Tuesday night when The New York Times reconstructed the president’s federal tax returns from 1985-1994. In a feat of forensic work worthy of a TV crime series, reporters Russ Buettner and Susanne Craig revealed that Trump lost $1.17 billion in a decade and “appears to have lost more money than any other individual American taxpayer.”

Trump’s dazzling failure helps explain how he and the Republicans have given the nation an era of nearly $1 trillion in annual deficits, despite the buoyant economy.

The Times’ scoop is bracing, even if it comes too late to convince Trump loyalists that they have been hoodwinked by a fraud (if they ever were convincible). What it does suggest is that no coverup lasts forever—and that, sooner or later, Trump’s more recent tax returns will be made public.

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has been stonewalling the House Ways and Means Committee’s demand, buttressed by a 1924 law, for the last six years of Trump’s federal returns. In a coincidence that might embarrass a political novelist, the Times’ story broke just as Mnuchin was attending a 2020 Trump fundraiser—the kind of event past treasure secretaries have avoided out of conflict-of-interest concerns.

But just as New York’s tabloid culture of the 1980s and 1990s made Trump, his residency in the state may ultimately break him. The New York legislature, which has its own hefty share of grifters, is moving toward approving a bill that would provide Trump’s state tax returns to the House Ways and Means Committee on request.

Since the information on state and federal taxes is virtually identical, such legislation might help solve the tantalizing mystery of why and how Trump, who worshipped debt, began paying for expensive properties (including golf courses) with cash in 2006. It is worth noting that the Mueller report neither went back that far nor scrutinized Trump’s finances.

The Times bombshell story also revealed that in business—if, alas, not yet in politics—Trump the Braggart eventually became exposed as Trump the Blowhard.

One of Trump’s few profit-making ventures in the late 1980s was his version of the age-old Wall Street boiler-room scam known as “pump and dump.” Repeatedly, Trump would announce that he was seeking to acquire majority control of a major company like United Airlines and then, when the stock jumped, he’d sell his relatively small holdings at a major profit. Trump pulled off the same scheme with publicly touted investments in Hilton Hotels, Gillette, and Federated Department Stores.

But stock analysts, with money on the line, noticed that Trump never followed through after his initial braggadocio about a takeover attempt. In late 1989, a purported Trumpian raid on American Airlines inspired mostly yawns and giggles. According to the Times’ analysis, Trump appeared to have lost more than $30 million when American Airlines stock dropped sharply.

Thus ended the ignominious saga of Donald Trump, Corporate Raider.

The Worst Businessman in America

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[NotfooledbyW]

protectionist, post: 22949109,

Trump DOES get credit for rescuing us from Obama's lousy decline of GDP from 2.3 to 1.2 in 2016.

You must really be impressed at the way Obama rescued us from this REPUBLICAN mess.

TrumpO had it pretty damn easy is what you are telling me.


Thank you President Obama.

 

[protectionist]

government doesnt create jobs,,,they only kill them,,,

Good point.[/QUOTE]

Not a good point at all.. certainly government creates jobs. Trump has created jobs (for AMERICANS) by getting rid of illegal aliens, cutting the corporate tax (a lot), reducing business regulation (a lot), getting Chinese products out of our stores by setting tariffs, and reducing immigrant remittances$$ by reducing immigration.

 

[protectionist]

You must really be impressed at the way Obama rescued us from this REPUBLICAN mess.
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TrumpO had it pretty damn easy is what you are telling me. Thank you President Obama.

Try reading the thread before you post, fool. I've already refuted that repeatedly here.

BTW, when GDP was at its worst (in 2009), according to your chart, guess who was president.

 

[protectionist]

Why is TrumpO successful and Obama is not. The referenced chart shows absolutely no change in the rate of decline in black unemployment after TrumpO was inaugurated.

If Obama was doing nothing so must TrumoO be doing nothing.

Go back to my prior posts for the easy answer to that, and in the future, read the previous posts before posting.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

protectionist, post: 22949322

Try reading the thread before you post, fool. I've already refuted that repeatedly here.

You can’t tefute facts. I realize idiots think they can.

 

[protectionist]

You can’t tefute facts. I realize idiots think they can.

You were refuted before you even posted.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

protectionist, post: 22949322,

BTW, when GDP was at its worst (in 2009), according to your chart, guess who was president.

Yep. It was Obama. He was inaugurated at the end of January and passed his first major stimulus package in February six months later the rescue from the worst recession since the Great Depression had already begun.

TrumpO didn’t pass a major economic package until December 2017 and about six months after that we got TrumpO’s one time highest quarter GDP at 4.2%.

Now who will save us from TrumpO’s short/llived 4.2 qtr now that he’s dropped us back into the 2.0 range?