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YAWN
So you twisted everything I did in the game into some reason to view me as scum, taking things out of context, not quoting properly so I can defend myself, ignoring that most of that stuff I have explained and not putting my explanations in there.
In other words, you are framing me because you don't like I called you scum.
The last thing for example-I explained in great detail why tso is not a PL to me but you come back and call in a PL. Why do you do that? Because you ignored my comments saying it wasn't. Then put your own twist on it by repeating what SR said.
Yet you ignore the fact Avi won't move his vote of ika despite ika being obviously town.
I didn't twist anything you did in the game. It is obvious when you OMGUS someone. It is obvious when House mirrors your votes. It is obvious that you were eager to lynch MeBelle, Ika and now Tso and impatient about it, not waiting for everyone to give their opinion. I'm not anxious for a TSO lynch although I did say I would go along with it if the majority was in favor, but I'm not rushing it. As Town I believe we need to take time and evaluate why anyone should be lynched.
And, I have listed Avatar as a possible ruler/usurper, but, I'm going for the most obvious ATM.
And, it has nothing to do with you calling me scum. I'm going by what I see. I don't care that you call me Scum, I just want reasons, like I gave for you.
And Wolf, this is not personal. I like you as a person, but this is the game. If you are Scum you should be prepared to be considered Scum and not get agitated when you are accused of being Scum. I need to see proof that you're not, but you told me you didn't have to prove anything to me, so in other words, you just want me to take your word, but that is not my win condition.
Mertex, you would have to get nearly the rest of us to go after the ruler. I am not so sure on House scum but you and Cafe make interesting cases on Wolf and Math.
Putting you me ika Cafe Josh that's 5. We would need three more. We are much less likely to get the support on the ruler. I want to get a scum lynch.
Suppose Wolf and Math have identified each other as scum, which is the ruler? I can help us get a flip but it will make things much easiet if we run at a guard first.
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I do not think House is scum. The things you were mentioning about House are posts I would make regardless of alignment. Attacking logical fallacies does not make someone scummy even if those defenses wind up benefitting scum.
You catch a player like House (supposing I am wrong) by looking for logical inconsistencies).
I didn't twist anything you did in the game. It is obvious when you OMGUS someone. It is obvious when House mirrors your votes. It is obvious that you were eager to lynch MeBelle, Ika and now Tso and impatient about it, not waiting for everyone to give their opinion. I'm not anxious for a TSO lynch although I did say I would go along with it if the majority was in favor, but I'm not rushing it. As Town I believe we need to take time and evaluate why anyone should be lynched.
And Wolf, this is not personal. I like you as a person, but this is the game. If you are Scum you should be prepared to be considered Scum and not get agitated when you are accused of being Scum. I need to see proof that you're not, but you told me you didn't have to prove anything to me, so in other words, you just want me to take your word, but that is not my win condition.
However at this point I think we have to go after guards, not the ruler.
I didn't twist anything you did in the game. It is obvious when you OMGUS someone. It is obvious when House mirrors your votes. It is obvious that you were eager to lynch MeBelle, Ika and now Tso and impatient about it, not waiting for everyone to give their opinion. I'm not anxious for a TSO lynch although I did say I would go along with it if the majority was in favor, but I'm not rushing it. As Town I believe we need to take time and evaluate why anyone should be lynched.
She is not saying she wants a guard over a riler but that the ruler is too well defended.However at this point I think we have to go after guards, not the ruler.
That's just retarded. If you kill the ruler, you take out 4 scum at once.
Why you would want to chase down the guards instead of lynch someone you believe to be the ruler is just nonsense.
I actually want you guys to lynch me now so that when I flip rebel you can go after all those who have been pushing me all game.
I could pretty much do what Mertex did to just about anyone in the game and call them scum and I could point out just about anyone defending anyone and call someone a ruler or a guard.
But I've got better things to do with my day.
And SR calls it interesting and says Cafe's case is interesting when Cafe has barely said a word but chew me out for drama and then she excuses House's hostility. LOL-what a joke that is. She's probably not town either.
As for Cafe, excusing House hostility, I don't know that she was excusing it more than just tolerating it, and she did called it for what it was, where in your case, you actually made excuses and asked me to ignore it and even "liked" his post and reposted it. You claim that it was a joke but it seemed more like you encouraging him and agreeing with him. I'm sure if one of us had reposted one of Rosie's post to you, you wouldn't have ever agreed that we were doing it in good humor.
I actually want you guys to lynch me now so that when I flip rebel you can go after all those who have been pushing me all game.
I could pretty much do what Mertex did to just about anyone in the game and call them scum and I could point out just about anyone defending anyone and call someone a ruler or a guard.
But I've got better things to do with my day.
And SR calls it interesting and says Cafe's case is interesting when Cafe has barely said a word but chew me out for drama and then she excuses House's hostility. LOL-what a joke that is. She's probably not town either.
Wolf, there is a difference between reading someone as town/scum and actually going to their defense when someone accuses them of being Scum. Go ahead and show where I have gone out of my way to defend anyone or jump in a few posts after someone accuses them of being Scum and defend them.
As for Cafe, excusing House hostility, I don't know that she was excusing it more than just tolerating it, and she did called it for what it was, where in your case, you actually made excuses and asked me to ignore it and even "liked" his post and reposted it. You claim that it was a joke but it seemed more like you encouraging him and agreeing with him. I'm sure if one of us had reposted one of Rosie's post to you, you wouldn't have ever agreed that we were doing it in good humor.
Deal. I think you are town but wrong.I'll make you folks a deal.
I'll help you lynch Wolfsister77 if we lynch Mertex after Wolf flips town.
I'm still solid on Avatar as obvscum, but I'm flexible.
Deal. I think you are town but wrong.I'll make you folks a deal.
I'll help you lynch Wolfsister77 if we lynch Mertex after Wolf flips town.
I'm still solid on Avatar as obvscum, but I'm flexible.
Vote: Wolfsister
Post #33 Wolf advocates lynching MeBelle instead of replacing her after Wake had already announced in Post #18 that he would replace her. Post #94, House mirrors a policy lynch on Mebelle. Nobody else supported or went along with a PL on MeBelle.
If you're going to reference quoted content, perhaps you should at least point to the right post. This particular issue is just a case of hair splitting because you got all butt hurt over a typo in my post earlier and here you are being a hypocrite by bastardizing quotes, yourself.
Your concern is duly noted.Practice what you preach, drama queen.
Post #103 Wolf was caught by Josh for calling rebels "they"
Post #108 SR votes for Wolf, Post #124 House comes to Wolf's defense, and in Post #134 SR tells House he is hard defending Wolf without a town read on her.
Hear ye, hear ye... this is what Mertex calls coming to Wolfsister's defense when being called out on grammatical errors by Josh:
Post #124
She actually did it twice... "their" instead of "our", too.
Nice catch.
Post #142 SR says she wants Wolf lynched....and in Post #152 Wolf does an OMGUS vote on SR. Post #162 House comes along and mirrors Wolf's vote on SR.
Wrong. I sheeped ika because his idea was interesting, as I stated quite plainly.
I can go along with random voting if that is what folks want to do.
Vote: ScarletRage
Sheeping ika, my vote is not indicative of a read.
Post #211 Josh posts a good explanation of WS use of wrong pronouns - (Wolf had used "they" to refer to rebels).
And that you completely omitted the fact I corrected & complemented Josh on his point when you've gone to such painstaking research to build a case against me just shows your motives are scummy.
Let's review that post:
Post #124
She actually did it twice... "their" instead of "our", too.
Nice catch.
Scummy Mertex is scummy.
Post #215 House discounts and argues against SR's contention that the ruler can get aggressive. (Wolf has been aggressive in her claims and votes)
Seems like you are making sure to explain all reasons away.Yeah, because people can't hold a different opinion unless they're scum, right hive queen?
That's just silly.Plus the king can afford to get real aggressive.
No way I'd be out to piss people off if I could insta-lose the game for my team.
SR made a good point about the king/ruler being aggressive at first because the guards wouldn't bus him/her.It's common sense that the ruler would be calling for his own head on a pike by pissing people off. Look at this dumbassery I'm having to respond to. You think somebody that actually has a big ol' secret like being the ruler would want to put themselves in my position?
DERP!
Post #225 Josh notes that Wolf is seriously naming people as guards, but voting for others. Post #226, House immediately responds to Josh that he should read up Wolf's meta, (defending Wolf).
Advising a player that is new to the site to read up on a player's meta before jumping to conclusions isn't much of a defense. That advice holds whether the player being discussed is scum or town.
That you'd twist solid advice as damning evidence shows how much you're working to fabricate a read.
Post #263 SR votes for Ika. Post #266 Wolf sheeps SR's vote on Ika. Post #270 House votes Ika. Post #300 House anxious to lynch Ika.
Sure was.
Post #300
Give the man his l-1 so we can start being productive, plzkthx.
Know why I said that? Oh wait, we'll get there...
Post #325 I mentioned to Avi that Ika wasn't the only one being defended (by Arden) and mention that Aye and House also defended Wolf. Post #326 House accuses me of trying to put spotlight on him. (He didn't like that I mentioned he was defending Wolf).
Post #326
can't speak for the others but I'm voting for ika because he was the first player I saw where another player was defending him. Seems prudent that the king would have others defending him or her
Before anyone was defending Ika, House and Aye were defending Wolf...
Look at Mertex all trying to cast me in a less than saintly light.
Repent! Repent! Ask, and you shall be forgiven.
Yep....but it was a fact that both you and Aye came to the defense of Wolf before Arden came to the defense of Ika.It's called banter.
Post #340 I ask Wolf why she is anxious to have Ika lynched, her response "he's worthless....." House agrees with her comment and in Post #361 House posts "Bingo" to WS claim that Ika is worthless. And in post #384 Wolf votes for Ika, again.
Remember that point I said we'd be getting to? Here it is.
Post #299
still not caring, i only joined this spcific game so you guys could have upsuper.
if you dont want to do my way fine, but i just saying that you wont be expecting anything from me for the entirety of the game
So yeah... by ika's own admission, he was useless. That you went to such trouble to research all these posts and didn't catch that just shows your motivation here is scummy...
Oh, broken record? Just shows how egregious your slips are.
Post #392, Wolf becomes agitated because I voted for her, accuses me of voting for every one that calls me Scum, yet nobody has called me Scum or voted for me at this point. Post#416 House tries to calm down Wolf.
Post #416
Wolf, maybe you should focus less on the words being used and more on the intent behind those words.
It is easy to get knocked off track by a player's attacks, but those posts are easier to deal with when you ask yourself what effects such posts are designed to have.
This was a hard lesson I learned "over there", if you remember.
When I instigate, I'm anti-town. When I attempt to deescalate, I'm... scum?
Logic fail.
Post #464 Josh claims Wolf is scum. Post #904 Josh notices House sheeps Wolf.
The problem with this assertion is that House didn't sheep Wolf, did he? No, he didn't.
I will likely sheep a green whose logic I agree with.
(2 minutes later)
Post #784
Looking back over the start of the day, it was indeed FA_Q2 that brought the old drama back to the fore.
Vote: FA_Q2
What makes this particularly egregious is the fact I've already addressed this very point with your scum buddy MathBlade.
Post: 792
Vote House
Reason: Admitting that he will sheep instead of having his own reasons.
Hope you're paying attention to your sister, Scarlet.
And here you are again, repeating what Wolf said, that FA brought the drama back. You certainly do seem concerned about Wolf.
Or they may be able to see the pattern.The folks that only play here might fall for this stupid b/s, but I know you know better.
I'm paying attention to everyone. We need to lynch the ruler. I think you are scum for openly saying you won't think. So I'm going to bed quite happy my vote is here after that OMGUS change in my "suspected" alignment in your readwall.
Sheeping is more often than not scum. Townies have to deduce scum. Scum does not.
Lying MathBlade is lying.
I will likely sheep a green whose logic I agree with.
(Note the timestamp)
Looking back over the start of the day, it was indeed FA_Q2 that brought the old drama back to the fore.
Vote: FA_Q2
Totes sheeped there, didn't I? What's that you say? I did that to cover my as after Math called me out?
Vote House
Reason: Admitting that he will sheep instead of having his own reasons.
Nope, my vote preceded her scummy post.
Too bad, so sad.
Post #914 Wolf makes an excuse when House asks her why she changed Cafe from "town" to "Scum" - (shortly after Cafe gave her reads and listed Wolf as Scum).
Cafe had called Wolf on it and told her it seemed like an OMGUS vote, so then Wolf claims she had miscounted and quickly moves Cafe back to Town.
It would not be the first time that Scum tries to distance themselves from other Scum by making a scummy observation. Nothing new.Wait, wait, wait... if I'm supposedly a guard, why am I poking my ruler with a stick and drawing attention to her mistake? That's pretty fucking dumb, innit? Your logic, that is.
Your misrep goes far beyond the realm of incompetence and should confirm to any holdouts that you are scum.
Sure, sure, but you still haven't explained why you defend Wolf so much and mirror most of her votes, not to mention agreeing with her on Pls that don't help town. I'm sure folks can make up their own minds about what I posted but thanks for your attempt at rebuttal.
People crawling all over my posts and yelling misrep is something that happens to me all the time.
Yeah, but I back mine up.
What a joke of a response. Not even worth my time.
My last reply to you says all I have to say to you.
Wolf your reads are pretty much whoever attacks you is scum. That is textbook scum ina game like this.
If what Mertex did is so easy (it isn't), why don't you do it with your own scumreads?
Cafe's supplement to Josh's initial mental reference case (rebels as they) was compelling. Mertex then did a lot there to build on that. Am I 100% bet my game life on it that Mertex is right about the two of you? No. Her work is the best example we have of scumhunting and pretty valid.
Humoring you for a moment, suppose Mertex is scum, which of the current wagons is she trying to save? Make your case.
LOL-It's the most ridiculous case I have seen all game. And if you think that is good, then I guess you just want to see me as scum so bad you aren't thinking clearly. Almost all of it is her interpretation of things House has done in the game and a few non-alignment indicative things I have done and call me scum. I know my alignment and I know ridiculous allegations when I see them. No, everyone who attacks me is not scum. Everyone who makes up reasons to have a scumread on me is suspect.
LOL-lynch me please and you will see I am a rebel, go right ahead
