Paul Ryan - Not even a good liar.

We're talking about acting on the recommendations of the panel.

He did - he created a proposal together, with Boehner. When Boehner presented it to his congress, they rejected it.

He did nothing there either................ Leaders lead..............Do you understand what leadership is????? Now lets go back to his statement of halving the deficit.


What has he done.....NOTHING......

The Panel shows us a complete lack of leadership... But I will listen to you tell me how it is.
Indeed, it takes a complete lack of leadership to spend months hashing out panel recommendations, only to walk away from those recommendations and rally your own party to vote against them.

When Republicans pull that shit they get promoted to VP candidate.

And Obama could have gotten every proposal of the commission passed with even a modicum of leadership. But he wouldn't. Because SImpson-Bowles did not represent hsi interest. His interest is in expanding government, not shrinking it. He wants more goverbment, more spending, and higher taxes. Simpson Bowles was merely political cover so he could claim he was in favor of cuts but those meanies in the GOP didnt want them. And he expected fools like you to buy it.
 
He did nothing there either................ Leaders lead..............Do you understand what leadership is????? Now lets go back to his statement of halving the deficit.


What has he done.....NOTHING......

The Panel shows us a complete lack of leadership... But I will listen to you tell me how it is.
Indeed, it takes a complete lack of leadership to spend months hashing out panel recommendations, only to walk away from those recommendations and rally your own party to vote against them.

When Republicans pull that shit they get promoted to VP candidate.

And Obama could have gotten every proposal of the commission passed with even a modicum of leadership. But he wouldn't. Because SImpson-Bowles did not represent hsi interest. His interest is in expanding government, not shrinking it. He wants more goverbment, more spending, and higher taxes. Simpson Bowles was merely political cover so he could claim he was in favor of cuts but those meanies in the GOP didnt want them. And he expected fools like you to buy it.

Obama could have gotten a proposal passed that wasn't even endorsed by the Republicans in the committee that created it?

Republicans would have voted for tax hikes?

LoL. OK then. Even the Republican choice for VP wouldn't vote for it.
 
Of course he isnt a decent liar. He doesn't lie.

The politicians we have to worry about are the ones experienced at lying and can brainwash you into claiming they didnt say something despite having videos proving otherwise.
 
Ryan is obviously not a good liar, but the conservatarians attempting to carry his water in this thread are even less skilled.

Of course we aren't skilled at lying. You don't become skilled at doing something without practice. Since we dont lie, i dont expect we ever will become skilled at it.
 
Ryan is obviously not a good liar, but the conservatarians attempting to carry his water in this thread are even less skilled.

You're right. Ryan is not a good liar. He just tells the truth. And the Left howls.

So he was telling the truth when he accused Obama of failing to act on the recommedations of the committee even though:

(1) the committee made no recommendations
(2) the reason they made no recommendations is because Ryan rallied his own party to block it and
(3) Obama did adopt portions of recommendations provided by some committee members but Boehner backed out of the deal?

OK then. Ayn thanks you for carrying his water.
 
Ryan is obviously not a good liar, but the conservatarians attempting to carry his water in this thread are even less skilled.

You're right. Ryan is not a good liar. He just tells the truth. And the Left howls.

So he was telling the truth when he accused Obama of failing to act on the recommedations of the committee even though:

(1) the committee made no recommendations
(2) the reason they made no recommendations is because Ryan rallied his own party to block it and
(3) Obama did adopt portions of recommendations provided by some committee members but Boehner backed out of the deal?

OK then. Ayn thanks you for carrying his water.

They came back with a report, and Owebama did nothing.

Exactly like Ryan said.

' Ryan said, “He created a bipartisan debt commission. They came back with an urgent report. He thanked them, sent them on their way, and then did exactly nothing.”


You continue to fail.


LOL
 
Notice the echo chamber (sniper fire, pale rider, rabbi, full auto, Avatar, et al ) post nothing of substance, are usually profane and seem challenged by reality. They have been taught well; lie, repeat the lie, repeat the lie over and over and over and thank others who repeat the same lie ad nausea.
 
You're right. Ryan is not a good liar. He just tells the truth. And the Left howls.

So he was telling the truth when he accused Obama of failing to act on the recommedations of the committee even though:

(1) the committee made no recommendations
(2) the reason they made no recommendations is because Ryan rallied his own party to block it and
(3) Obama did adopt portions of recommendations provided by some committee members but Boehner backed out of the deal?

OK then. Ayn thanks you for carrying his water.

They came back with a report, and Owebama did nothing.

No, they didn't. The committee voted down report - at Ryan's behest.

quit lying.
 
So he was telling the truth when he accused Obama of failing to act on the recommedations of the committee even though:

(1) the committee made no recommendations
(2) the reason they made no recommendations is because Ryan rallied his own party to block it and
(3) Obama did adopt portions of recommendations provided by some committee members but Boehner backed out of the deal?

OK then. Ayn thanks you for carrying his water.

They came back with a report, and Owebama did nothing.

No, they didn't. The committee voted down report - at Ryan's behest.

quit lying.

National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform

'A report was released on December 1, 2010'

National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You are getting pummeled, tard.

LOL
 
Ryan is obviously not a good liar, but the conservatarians attempting to carry his water in this thread are even less skilled.

Of course we aren't skilled at lying. You don't become skilled at doing something without practice. Since we dont lie, i dont expect we ever will become skilled at it.

Ok, lying Religio-nut.

FACT CHECK: Ryan takes factual shortcuts in speech - Yahoo! News

So justbecause a headline says something, you believe it? No wonder you are an Obama voter.
Let's look at even the first item:

RYAN: "And the biggest, coldest power play of all in Obamacare came at the expense of the elderly. ... So they just took it all away from Medicare. Seven hundred and sixteen billion dollars, funneled out of Medicare by President Obama."

THE FACTS: Ryan's claim ignores the fact that Ryan himself incorporated the same cuts into budgets he steered through the House in the past two years as chairman of its Budget Committee, using the money for deficit reduction. And the cuts do not affect Medicare recipients directly, but rather reduce payments to hospitals, health insurance plans and other service providers.

Note that "The Facts" do NOT refute Ryan's claim. They merely deflect to Ryan's own plan, which is not at issue here.
Your post is a fail.
 
They came back with a report, and Owebama did nothing.

No, they didn't. The committee voted down report - at Ryan's behest.

quit lying.

National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform

'A report was released on December 1, 2010'

National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You are getting pummeled, tard.

LOL
Hint: The more they deflect and the more they cry "liar" the less right they are.
 
Of course we aren't skilled at lying. You don't become skilled at doing something without practice. Since we dont lie, i dont expect we ever will become skilled at it.

Ok, lying Religio-nut.

FACT CHECK: Ryan takes factual shortcuts in speech - Yahoo! News

So justbecause a headline says something, you believe it? No wonder you are an Obama voter.
Let's look at even the first item:

RYAN: "And the biggest, coldest power play of all in Obamacare came at the expense of the elderly. ... So they just took it all away from Medicare. Seven hundred and sixteen billion dollars, funneled out of Medicare by President Obama."

THE FACTS: Ryan's claim ignores the fact that Ryan himself incorporated the same cuts into budgets he steered through the House in the past two years as chairman of its Budget Committee, using the money for deficit reduction. And the cuts do not affect Medicare recipients directly, but rather reduce payments to hospitals, health insurance plans and other service providers.

Note that "The Facts" do NOT refute Ryan's claim. They merely deflect to Ryan's own plan, which is not at issue here.
Your post is a fail.

And the cuts do not affect Medicare recipients directly, but rather reduce payments to hospitals, health insurance plans and other service providers.
 

So justbecause a headline says something, you believe it? No wonder you are an Obama voter.
Let's look at even the first item:

RYAN: "And the biggest, coldest power play of all in Obamacare came at the expense of the elderly. ... So they just took it all away from Medicare. Seven hundred and sixteen billion dollars, funneled out of Medicare by President Obama."

THE FACTS: Ryan's claim ignores the fact that Ryan himself incorporated the same cuts into budgets he steered through the House in the past two years as chairman of its Budget Committee, using the money for deficit reduction. And the cuts do not affect Medicare recipients directly, but rather reduce payments to hospitals, health insurance plans and other service providers.

Note that "The Facts" do NOT refute Ryan's claim. They merely deflect to Ryan's own plan, which is not at issue here.
Your post is a fail.

And the cuts do not affect Medicare recipients directly, but rather reduce payments to hospitals, health insurance plans and other service providers.

Does your back ever get tired moving the goalposts, or your hands from deflecting?

The point is that Obamacare takes that money from Medicare. Ryan was correct. All the spinning and deflecting does not change that.
 

So justbecause a headline says something, you believe it? No wonder you are an Obama voter.
Let's look at even the first item:

RYAN: "And the biggest, coldest power play of all in Obamacare came at the expense of the elderly. ... So they just took it all away from Medicare. Seven hundred and sixteen billion dollars, funneled out of Medicare by President Obama."

THE FACTS: Ryan's claim ignores the fact that Ryan himself incorporated the same cuts into budgets he steered through the House in the past two years as chairman of its Budget Committee, using the money for deficit reduction. And the cuts do not affect Medicare recipients directly, but rather reduce payments to hospitals, health insurance plans and other service providers.

Note that "The Facts" do NOT refute Ryan's claim. They merely deflect to Ryan's own plan, which is not at issue here.
Your post is a fail.

And the cuts do not affect Medicare recipients directly, but rather reduce payments to hospitals, health insurance plans and other service providers.

If one out of six hospitals close, and service providers stop providing due to Obama's raid on the Medicare funds, does that affect Medicare recipients directly?

That was rhetorical. We all know the answer. You are a fucking retard.
 
They came back with a report, and Owebama did nothing.

No, they didn't. The committee voted down report - at Ryan's behest.

quit lying.

National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform

'A report was released on December 1, 2010'

National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You are getting pummeled, tard.

LOL

from your own link.

A report was released on December 1, 2010, but failed a vote on December 3 with 11 of 18 votes in favor, with a supermajority of 14 votes needed to formally endorse the blueprint.[3] Voting for the report were Bowles, Coburn, Conrad, Crapo, Cote, Durbin, Fudge, Gregg, Rivlin, Simpson, and Spratt. Voting against were Baucus, Becerra, Camp, Hensarling, Ryan, Schakowsky and Stern.

Jesus you guys are the new frothy LOLberals who will kiss the ass of their messiah, I see. Holy shit. It's like the fucking twilight zone in here.

:lmao:
 

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