Question about God and praying for help.

If I needed help I'd ask for it from the LORD. Why should you perish? Why not repent and call upon the LORD to save you before you are destroyed? Hell has no exits. Why go there?

It is written:
Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright, for the end of that man is peace. But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off.
Psalm 37:37,38
 
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I'm interested in hearing from every person who believes in a God. Atheists will not be a part of this discussion.

I have had a long term discussion with people of faith on this subject but I never thought to bring it up before the people here. I always maintained that one should not ask God for things or help for yourself. I believe that you should pray for others, but not for yourself. Asking for forgiveness, sure, but don't ask for things like a promotion at work, or help with your finances, help losing weight, or even to save your marriage. Pray for others, for their marriages, their kids, maybe even their finances but not for your own.

Seems selfish to me.

What do your beliefs tell you about this?
Do you want the Lord to heal you?
 
If I needed help I'd ask for it from the LORD. Why should you perish? Why not repent and call upon the LORD to save you before you are destroyed? Hell has no exits. Why go there?

It is written:
Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright, for the end of that man is peace. But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off.
Psalm 37:37,38
Can you really prove that hell exists?
 
I'm interested in hearing from every person who believes in a God. Atheists will not be a part of this discussion.

I have had a long term discussion with people of faith on this subject but I never thought to bring it up before the people here. I always maintained that one should not ask God for things or help for yourself. I believe that you should pray for others, but not for yourself. Asking for forgiveness, sure, but don't ask for things like a promotion at work, or help with your finances, help losing weight, or even to save your marriage. Pray for others, for their marriages, their kids, maybe even their finances but not for your own.

Seems selfish to me.

What do your beliefs tell you about this?
Do you want the Lord to heal you?
Why did the Lord make me fucked up in the first place that I'd need him to heal me? He screw up?
 
You were born with the sin of Adam and Eve. You must be born again. It is written:

John 3 King James Version (KJV)
3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

24 For John was not yet cast into prison.

25 Then there arose a question between some of John's disciples and the Jews about purifying.

26 And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him.

27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.

28 Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him.

29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.

30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.

32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.

33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.

34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

King James Version (KJV)
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You were born with the sin of Adam and Eve. You must be born again. It is written:

John 3 King James Version (KJV)
3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

24 For John was not yet cast into prison.

25 Then there arose a question between some of John's disciples and the Jews about purifying.

26 And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him.

27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.

28 Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him.

29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.

30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.

32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.

33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.

34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

King James Version (KJV)
Public Domain
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If I needed help I'd ask for it from the LORD. Why should you perish? Why not repent and call upon the LORD to save you before you are destroyed? Hell has no exits. Why go there?

It is written:
Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright, for the end of that man is peace. But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off.
Psalm 37:37,38
Can you really prove that hell exists?
Hell is mentioned over 400 times in the Old Testament and again many, many times in the New Testament. Jesus Christ would not warn us about hell if it were not a real place. Ex-Satanists have testified that hell is real and many have testified of seeing Lucifer there. Others have had visions of hell while interceding for the lost, etc.

Watch this and then decide if hell is where you really want to be. Making an informed decision is your best move here. So let's get you informed and THEN you can decide.

 
If I needed help I'd ask for it from the LORD. Why should you perish? Why not repent and call upon the LORD to save you before you are destroyed? Hell has no exits. Why go there?

It is written:
Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright, for the end of that man is peace. But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off.
Psalm 37:37,38
Can you really prove that hell exists?
Hell is mentioned over 400 times in the Old Testament and again many, many times in the New Testament. Jesus Christ would not warn us about hell if it were not a real place. Ex-Satanists have testified that hell is real and many have testified of seeing Lucifer there. Others have had visions of hell while interceding for the lost, etc.
So in other words, you have nothing, Spiderman is mentioned more than 400 times in DC Comics and we all know that he doesn't really exist for lack of real proof. So, got any real proof?
 
You were born with the sin of Adam and Eve. You must be born again. It is written:

John 3 King James Version (KJV)
3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

24 For John was not yet cast into prison.

25 Then there arose a question between some of John's disciples and the Jews about purifying.

26 And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him.

27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.

28 Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him.

29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.

30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.

32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.

33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.

34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

King James Version (KJV)
Public Domain
king-james-bible.png
Total lie. Don't believe it. The Authorized King James Version Holy Bible is the pure Word of God. Reading it and acting upon it's instruction has led to millions of souls being saved, delivered, and healed. No other book on earth has had such results. What book are you reading?
 
If I needed help I'd ask for it from the LORD. Why should you perish? Why not repent and call upon the LORD to save you before you are destroyed? Hell has no exits. Why go there?

It is written:
Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright, for the end of that man is peace. But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off.
Psalm 37:37,38
Can you really prove that hell exists?
Hell is mentioned over 400 times in the Old Testament and again many, many times in the New Testament. Jesus Christ would not warn us about hell if it were not a real place. Ex-Satanists have testified that hell is real and many have testified of seeing Lucifer there. Others have had visions of hell while interceding for the lost, etc.
So in other words, you have nothing, Spiderman is mentioned more than 400 times in DC Comics and we all know that he doesn't really exist for lack of real proof. So, got any real proof?
The comic book characters are based on fallen angels, demons and the occult. If you have any burn them. That would be a good start for you.
 
Non-Christian here.....

The formula for prayer that my wife and I use generally consists of.....

Thanks & Praise
Requests (for ourselves and others)
Recognition of Power

The firdt two parts are pretty standard to most styles of prayer in pretty much every denomination I'm familiar with. Its the Recognition part at the end which seems to surprise most people.....

Recognition of Power is about remembering who truly makes the decisions in our lives. It includes phrases such as.... " If it is Your will..." and "Only through You can....".
 
Non-Christian here.....

The formula for prayer that my wife and I use generally consists of.....

Thanks & Praise
Requests (for ourselves and others)
Recognition of Power

The firdt two parts are pretty standard to most styles of prayer in pretty much every denomination I'm familiar with. Its the Recognition part at the end which seems to surprise most people.....

Recognition of Power is about remembering who truly makes the decisions in our lives. It includes phrases such as.... " If it is Your will..." and "Only through You can....".
You cannot receive from a God that you do not trust and believe in. Apart from Jesus Christ there are no answers to prayer.
 
You were born with the sin of Adam and Eve.

Really.

14When Jesus saw this, He was indignant and told them, “Let the little children come to Me, and do not hinder them! For the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. 15Truly I tell you, whoever does not receivethe kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.”16And He took the children in His arms, placed His hands on them, and blessed them.…
 
You were born with the sin of Adam and Eve.

Really.

14When Jesus saw this, He was indignant and told them, “Let the little children come to Me, and do not hinder them! For the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. 15Truly I tell you, whoever does not receivethe kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.”16And He took the children in His arms, placed His hands on them, and blessed them.…
Do you understand why Jesus told them to let the little children come to him? Little children are covered - they do not go to limbo if they die. They go straight to heaven. Once you are of the age of accountability - you are to come to the LORD and repent of your sins as it is written in Romans 10:9,10. There is an age of accountability - but little children are not of the age of accountability. That is why it is foolishness to baptize babies. One must know what they are doing to repent and be baptized. A baby cannot possibly repent. You're problem is that you have not rightly divided the Word of God. You must be born again. Read John Chapter 3 and Romans 10:9,10.
 
You cannot receive from a God that you do not trust and believe in. Apart from Jesus Christ there are no answers to prayer.

With all due respect, your God spit in my face for 27 years. I was not going to waste the rest of my life on that. I respect your choice and would hope that you would respect mine as well.
 
You cannot receive from a God that you do not trust and believe in. Apart from Jesus Christ there are no answers to prayer.

With all due respect, your God spit in my face for 27 years. I was not going to waste the rest of my life on that. I respect your choice and would hope that you would respect mine as well.
My God never spit in your face. My God loves you deeply and you can count on it that whoever harmed you in His Name is going to answer for it. Do not let what some false Christian did to you stop you from coming to Jesus Christ. Please! I'm telling you. The LORD loves you. He would never spit in your face. EVER.
 
I'm interested in hearing from every person who believes in a God. Atheists will not be a part of this discussion.

I have had a long term discussion with people of faith on this subject but I never thought to bring it up before the people here. I always maintained that one should not ask God for things or help for yourself. I believe that you should pray for others, but not for yourself. Asking for forgiveness, sure, but don't ask for things like a promotion at work, or help with your finances, help losing weight, or even to save your marriage. Pray for others, for their marriages, their kids, maybe even their finances but not for your own.

Seems selfish to me.

What do your beliefs tell you about this?

Is asking for healing for yourself selfish? Is asking for deliverance selfish?

I don't think it is selfish at all.

I think it is, certainly to some degree.

If you notice the example given to us by Jesus, we seek the Father's will.

So what is the will of the Father for your life? The key is to seek his will because you trust that this is what is best for you and those around you.

In the Bible we are commanded to pray for each other and for such things as healing. I see no difference in praying for your own healing. Why would it be OK to pray for another's healing but not your own? It makes no sense. You simply want a body that is able to function properly so that you can be about the "Father's business", which is not selfish at all.
 
I'm interested in hearing from every person who believes in a God. Atheists will not be a part of this discussion.

I have had a long term discussion with people of faith on this subject but I never thought to bring it up before the people here. I always maintained that one should not ask God for things or help for yourself. I believe that you should pray for others, but not for yourself. Asking for forgiveness, sure, but don't ask for things like a promotion at work, or help with your finances, help losing weight, or even to save your marriage. Pray for others, for their marriages, their kids, maybe even their finances but not for your own.

Seems selfish to me.

What do your beliefs tell you about this?

Is asking for healing for yourself selfish? Is asking for deliverance selfish?

I don't think it is selfish at all.

I think it is, certainly to some degree.

If you notice the example given to us by Jesus, we seek the Father's will.

So what is the will of the Father for your life? The key is to seek his will because you trust that this is what is best for you and those around you.

In the Bible we are commanded to pray for each other and for such things as healing. I see no difference in praying for your own healing. Why would it be OK to pray for another's healing but not your own? It makes no sense. You simply want a body that is able to function properly so that you can be about the "Father's business", which is not selfish at all.
It is written:
Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
 
My God never spit in your face. My God loves you deeply and you can count on it that whoever harmed you in His Name is going to answer for it. Do not let what some false Christian did to you stop you from coming to Jesus Christ. Please! I'm telling you. The LORD loves you. He would never spit in your face. EVER.

I grew up in a deeply religious, conservative Christian family. You can't swing your arm at a family gathering without hitting church workers from pastors down to ushers and readers. I understand your viewpoint. I just disagree with it.

Im not here to tell you thst you're wrong; justthst your view of God is different thsn mine. I hope your Faith is a great strength to you and meets your needs. It doesn't meet mine. Have a wonderful day.
 

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