Quick History lesson

[Iceman]

The Republicans were carpetbagging pieces of shit when they started out, and they still are today. Piss on them.

 

[Freewill]

Hey Redfish: Tel us again about how the

15th Amendment provided for "the right to vote for all"

Certainly that was the intent if one considers race as everyone.

15th Amendment
<c&p snipped>

Of course now we know it still didn't protect blacks. The democrats were still able to block them by voting through poll taxes, Jim Crow a host of other dirty legislation to block the black freedom.

Hey Mr. Serial Cut 'n Paster -- how about you think a little further on that one.

Anyone else excluded re: the 15th Amendment? Think hard. Think real hard.

The cut and paste is so you will get objective truth very unlike what you give us, subjective BS.

We are talking about race here not your gender.

 

[paperview]

lol. Long as we'rea havin a cut 'n paste party, let's see what another GOP Chairman had to say on the matter:

Bob Herbert, a New York Times columnist, reported a 1981 interview with Lee Atwater, published in Southern Politics in the 1990s by Alexander P. Lamis, in which Lee Atwater discussed politics in the South:

Questioner: But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?
​

Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, "******, ******, ******." By 1968 you can't say "******" &#8212; that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me &#8212; because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "******, ******."
​

Southern strategy

 

[paperview]

Certainly that was the intent if one considers race as everyone.

15th Amendment
<c&p snipped>

Of course now we know it still didn't protect blacks. The democrats were still able to block them by voting through poll taxes, Jim Crow a host of other dirty legislation to block the black freedom.

Hey Mr. Serial Cut 'n Paster -- how about you think a little further on that one.

Anyone else excluded re: the 15th Amendment? Think hard. Think real hard.

The cut and paste is so you will get objective truth very unlike what you give us, subjective BS.

We are talking about race here not your gender.

So, you admit the OP was full on wrong when he said:

"The 15th Amendment : the right to vote for all"

Well, that's progress.

 

[Iceman]

Lets not even get started on the Democrats. They use to be a half way decent party with the Dixiecrat wing, and further back with Jackson and Jefferson, now they are proud of the fact that they want to redistribute money from working whites to welfare dependent non-whites, that is the entire party platform now.

 

[NoNukes]

To complete the education of the liberal left.

BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY
NOTE: All answers are "b."



1. What Party was founded as the anti-slavery Party and fought to free blacks from slavery?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



2. What was the Party of Abraham Lincoln who signed the emancipation proclamation that resulted in the Juneteenth celebrations that occur in black communities today?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



3. What Party passed the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth Amendments to the U. S. Constitution granting blacks freedom, citizenship, and the right to vote?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



4. What Party passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 granting blacks protection from the Black Codes and prohibiting racial discrimination in public accommodations, and was the Party of most blacks prior to the 1960’s, including Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, Booker T. Washington, and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



5. What was the Party of the founding fathers of the NAACP?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



6. What was the Party of President Dwight Eisenhower who sent U.S. troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools, established the Civil Rights Commission in 1958, and appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



7. What Party, by the greatest percentage, passed the Civil Rights Acts of the 1950’s and 1960’s?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



8. What was the Party of President Richard Nixon who instituted the first Affirmative Action program in 1969 with the Philadelphia Plan that established goals and timetables?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



9. What is the Party of President George W. Bush who appointed more blacks to high-level positions than any president in history and who spent record money education, job training and health care to help black Americans prosper?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY

NOTE: All answers are "b."



10. What Party fought to keep blacks in slavery and was the Party of the Ku Klux Klan?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



11. What Party from 1870 to 1930 used fraud, whippings, lynching, murder, intimidation, and mutilation to get the black vote, and passed the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws which legalized racial discrimination and denied blacks their rights as citizens?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



12. What was the Party of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and President Harry Truman who rejected anti-lynching laws and efforts to establish a permanent Civil Rights Commission?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



13. What was the Party of President Lyndon Johnson, who called Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. “that [N-word] preacher” because he opposed the Viet Nam War; and President John F. Kennedy who voted against the 1957 Civil Rights law as a Senator, then as president opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. after becoming president and the FBI investigate Dr. King on suspicion of being a communist?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



14. What is the Party of the late Senators Robert Byrd who was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, Ernest “Fritz” Hollings who hoisted the Confederate flag over the state capitol in South Carolina while governor, and Ted Kennedy who called black judicial nominees “Neanderthals” while blocking their appointments?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



15. What was the Party of President Bill Clinton who failed to fight the terrorists after the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, sent troops to war in Bosnia and Kosovo without Congressional approval, vetoed the Welfare Reform law twice before signing it, and refused to comply with a court order to have shipping companies develop an Affirmative Action Plan?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



16. What is the Party of Vice President Al Gore whose father voted against the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960’s, and who lost the 2000 election as confirmed by a second recount of Florida votes by the “Miami Herald” and a consortium of major news organizations and the ruling by the U.S. Civil Rights Commission that blacks were not denied the right to vote?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



17. What Party is against school vouchers, against school prayers, and takes the black vote for granted without ever acknowledging their racist past or apologizing for trying to expand slavery, lynching blacks and passing the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws that caused great harm to blacks?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party

18. What does any of this have to do with the reality of how the two parties are today. It is history and totally irrellivent. The entire thread is irrellivent.

 

[Iceman]

Both the Democrats and Republicans are utter shit, and anyone that supports them is a joke.

 

[Freewill]

To complete the education of the liberal left.

BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY
NOTE: All answers are "b."



1. What Party was founded as the anti-slavery Party and fought to free blacks from slavery?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



2. What was the Party of Abraham Lincoln who signed the emancipation proclamation that resulted in the Juneteenth celebrations that occur in black communities today?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



3. What Party passed the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth Amendments to the U. S. Constitution granting blacks freedom, citizenship, and the right to vote?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



4. What Party passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 granting blacks protection from the Black Codes and prohibiting racial discrimination in public accommodations, and was the Party of most blacks prior to the 1960’s, including Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, Booker T. Washington, and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



5. What was the Party of the founding fathers of the NAACP?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



6. What was the Party of President Dwight Eisenhower who sent U.S. troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools, established the Civil Rights Commission in 1958, and appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



7. What Party, by the greatest percentage, passed the Civil Rights Acts of the 1950’s and 1960’s?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



8. What was the Party of President Richard Nixon who instituted the first Affirmative Action program in 1969 with the Philadelphia Plan that established goals and timetables?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



9. What is the Party of President George W. Bush who appointed more blacks to high-level positions than any president in history and who spent record money education, job training and health care to help black Americans prosper?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party



BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY

NOTE: All answers are "b."



10. What Party fought to keep blacks in slavery and was the Party of the Ku Klux Klan?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



11. What Party from 1870 to 1930 used fraud, whippings, lynching, murder, intimidation, and mutilation to get the black vote, and passed the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws which legalized racial discrimination and denied blacks their rights as citizens?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



12. What was the Party of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and President Harry Truman who rejected anti-lynching laws and efforts to establish a permanent Civil Rights Commission?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



13. What was the Party of President Lyndon Johnson, who called Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. “that [N-word] preacher” because he opposed the Viet Nam War; and President John F. Kennedy who voted against the 1957 Civil Rights law as a Senator, then as president opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. after becoming president and the FBI investigate Dr. King on suspicion of being a communist?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



14. What is the Party of the late Senators Robert Byrd who was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, Ernest “Fritz” Hollings who hoisted the Confederate flag over the state capitol in South Carolina while governor, and Ted Kennedy who called black judicial nominees “Neanderthals” while blocking their appointments?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



15. What was the Party of President Bill Clinton who failed to fight the terrorists after the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, sent troops to war in Bosnia and Kosovo without Congressional approval, vetoed the Welfare Reform law twice before signing it, and refused to comply with a court order to have shipping companies develop an Affirmative Action Plan?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



16. What is the Party of Vice President Al Gore whose father voted against the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960’s, and who lost the 2000 election as confirmed by a second recount of Florida votes by the “Miami Herald” and a consortium of major news organizations and the ruling by the U.S. Civil Rights Commission that blacks were not denied the right to vote?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party



17. What Party is against school vouchers, against school prayers, and takes the black vote for granted without ever acknowledging their racist past or apologizing for trying to expand slavery, lynching blacks and passing the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws that caused great harm to blacks?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party

18. What does any of this have to do with the reality of how the two parties are today. It is history and totally irrellivent. The entire thread is irrellivent.

19. What side of the aisle is more likely to discredit this test as not relevant yet bring up Nixon's southern strategy?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

lol. Long as we'rea havin a cut 'n paste party, let's see what another GOP Chairman had to say on the matter:

Bob Herbert, a New York Times columnist, reported a 1981 interview with Lee Atwater, published in Southern Politics in the 1990s by Alexander P. Lamis, in which Lee Atwater discussed politics in the South:

Questioner: But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?
​

Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, "******, ******, ******." By 1968 you can't say "******" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "******, ******."
​

Southern strategy

The GOP’s Southern Strategy was a brilliant success – providing republicans a dependable, locked voting block likely for decades to come; and it will likely allow them to retain control of the House even during democratic years.

Why should they be ashamed of, or deny something, so successful?

 

[paperview]

Hey, Freewilligan, for the third time -- care to answer this question:

How many blacks have republicans elected to Congress in the last, oh 80 years?

Your ignoring it pretty apparent....and maybe this time you can try answering in your own words, before running to cut and paste another large swath of irrelevant garbage.

 

[peach174]

13th amendment: abolished slavery
100% republican support, 23% democrat support

14th amendment: gave citizenship to freed slaves
94% republican support, 0% democrat support

15th amendment: right to vote for all
100% republican support, 0% democrat support

Obamacare
0% republican support
100% democrat support


Need I say more?

Those are remarkable statistics

They show when Republicans used to actually care about Americans

They still do.
They are the party that is trying to stop the New Health Care law that is going to ruin America and all individual Americans freedom.

 

[rightwinger]

Hey, Freewilligan, for the third time -- care to answer this question:

How many blacks have republicans elected to Congress in the last, oh 80 years?

Your ignoring it pretty apparent....and maybe this time you can try answering in your own words, before running to cut and paste another large swath of irrelevant garbage.

Republicans have only found six blacks they have found worthy

 

[peach174]

lying, its what they do best------following the example of their savior, the liar in chief, Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama.

Hey Redfish: Tel us again about how the

15th Amendment provided for "the right to vote for all"

Certainly that was the intent if one considers race as everyone.

15th Amendment

The 15th Amendment was written to protect the right of citizens to be able to vote, regardless of their race, color, or previous condition of servitude. Although this article promised a lot for African Americans of the time, states and local polls found loop holes in the legislation to prevent them from voting. De jure segregation continued to oppose African Americans from gaining a strong hold in politics. Poll taxes were used to discourage poor races from voting, along with literacy tests made it difficult. Property qualifications made it a requirement to own property in order to be able to vote. It wasn't until nearly 95 years later that the Voting Rights Act of 1965 was passed, which enforced the promises of the 15th Amendment, along with the 24th Amendment, which banned the poll tax from being required to vote.

The 15th Amendment was ratified in 1970 after almost 1 year of deciding after the proposal of it February 26, 1869. Michigan was the 5th state to ratify the 15th amendment, while Tennessee was the latest to sign it in 1997.

Source:
"Ratification of Constitutional Amendments", U.S. Constitution Online

Of course now we know it still didn't protect blacks. The democrats were still able to block them by voting through poll taxes, Jim Crow a host of other dirty legislation to block the black freedom.

That's a typing error- the 15th Amendment was ratified in 1870 not 1970.

 

[paperview]

Hey, Freewilligan, for the third time -- care to answer this question:

How many blacks have republicans elected to Congress in the last, oh 80 years?

Your ignoring it pretty apparent....and maybe this time you can try answering in your own words, before running to cut and paste another large swath of irrelevant garbage.

Republicans have only found six blacks they have found worthy

And the Democrats have elected over a 100.

Nothing says "Party of Slavery" like electing black people to positions of power.*


*Yes, the Dem party was the party of slavery. Back when they were conservatives. No denying that.

 

[Iceman]

Hey, Freewilligan, for the third time -- care to answer this question:

How many blacks have republicans elected to Congress in the last, oh 80 years?

Your ignoring it pretty apparent....and maybe this time you can try answering in your own words, before running to cut and paste another large swath of irrelevant garbage.

Democrats, the party of the Blacks and other non-whites.

Between the GOP and the Democrats, no one represents White interests.

 

[rightwinger]

Hey, Freewilligan, for the third time -- care to answer this question:

How many blacks have republicans elected to Congress in the last, oh 80 years?

Your ignoring it pretty apparent....and maybe this time you can try answering in your own words, before running to cut and paste another large swath of irrelevant garbage.

Republicans have only found six blacks they have found worthy

And the Democrats have elected over a 100.

Nothing says "Party of Slavery" like electing black people to positions of power.*


*Yes, the Dem party was the party of slavery. Back when they were conservatives. No denying that.

It is sad that Republicans have to go back 50 years to find a time they actually supported minorities

 

[Redfish]

Republicans have only found six blacks they have found worthy

And the Democrats have elected over a 100.

Nothing says "Party of Slavery" like electing black people to positions of power.*


*Yes, the Dem party was the party of slavery. Back when they were conservatives. No denying that.

It is sad that Republicans have to go back 50 years to find a time they actually supported minorities

Have you asked Alan West about that? How about Thomas Sowell? Mia Love, Deneen Borelli, Charles Payne. Just to name a few that you might recognize.

There are millions of minorities who are conservative and republican.

Many more are waking up to the fraud that dems and libs have perpetrated on them for years.

 

[Redfish]

Hey, Freewilligan, for the third time -- care to answer this question:

How many blacks have republicans elected to Congress in the last, oh 80 years?

Your ignoring it pretty apparent....and maybe this time you can try answering in your own words, before running to cut and paste another large swath of irrelevant garbage.

Republicans have only found six blacks they have found worthy

And the Democrats have elected over a 100.

Nothing says "Party of Slavery" like electing black people to positions of power.*


*Yes, the Dem party was the party of slavery. Back when they were conservatives. No denying that.

Robert KKK Byrd and LBJ were not conservatives--------what else ya got?

 

[Redfish]

Hey, Freewilligan, for the third time -- care to answer this question:

How many blacks have republicans elected to Congress in the last, oh 80 years?

Your ignoring it pretty apparent....and maybe this time you can try answering in your own words, before running to cut and paste another large swath of irrelevant garbage.

Republicans have only found six blacks they have found worthy

would you name them, please.

 

[Iceman]

Anyone that supports the Civil Rights Act is not a conservative.