Quick History lesson

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Quick History lesson

Actually it’s a quick failed rightwing dogma lesson.

 

[Redfish]

Anyone that supports the Civil Rights Act is not a conservative.

totally wrong.

 

[rightwinger]

And the Democrats have elected over a 100.

Nothing says "Party of Slavery" like electing black people to positions of power.*


*Yes, the Dem party was the party of slavery. Back when they were conservatives. No denying that.

It is sad that Republicans have to go back 50 years to find a time they actually supported minorities

Have you asked Alan West about that? How about Thomas Sowell? Mia Love, Deneen Borelli, Charles Payne. Just to name a few that you might recognize.

There are millions of minorities who are conservative and republican.

Many more are waking up to the fraud that dems and libs have perpetrated on them for years.

Who?

How many hold elected office? When was the last time Republicans supported a bill that actually helped minorities?
We know they have supported bills that support the rich

 

[Redfish]

Quick History lesson

Actually it’s a quick failed rightwing dogma lesson.

yeah, sure, the truth scares the shit out of you libtardians doesn't it ?

your entire political philosophy is a lie. liberalism always fails, always has, always will.


freedom and individual responsibility work, always have, always will.

 

[Iceman]

Anyone that supports the Civil Rights Act is not a conservative.

totally wrong.

Telling individuals what they can and cannot do on their private property, and restricting the right of free association is not Conservative. That is why Goldwater opposed it.

The Civil Rights Act is one of the final nails the Left put into the coffin of the old American Republic.

 

[rightwinger]

Hey, Freewilligan, for the third time -- care to answer this question:

How many blacks have republicans elected to Congress in the last, oh 80 years?

Your ignoring it pretty apparent....and maybe this time you can try answering in your own words, before running to cut and paste another large swath of irrelevant garbage.

Republicans have only found six blacks they have found worthy

would you name them, please.

They have elected one black Senator 50 years ago and five Congressmen that lasted one term

Impressive ....Republicans should be proud

 

[LoneLaugher]

I value freedom and individual responsibility. We have things in common, Redphish.

 

[Redfish]

It is sad that Republicans have to go back 50 years to find a time they actually supported minorities

Have you asked Alan West about that? How about Thomas Sowell? Mia Love, Deneen Borelli, Charles Payne. Just to name a few that you might recognize.

There are millions of minorities who are conservative and republican.

Many more are waking up to the fraud that dems and libs have perpetrated on them for years.

Who?

How many hold elected office? When was the last time Republicans supported a bill that actually helped minorities?
We know they have supported bills that support the rich

Do you expect me to post millions of names? I gave you several prominent ones. Would a balanced budget help minorities? would repeal of ACA help minorities? would removing job-killing regulations help minorities? would more freedom help minorities start businesses?

sorry, norton, but your tax and spend liberalism is failing big time as we speak, obamacare will be the final nail in the coffin of liberalism. Its done, a failed experiment that has cost the country trillions and has not brought one person out of poverty, instead is has increased the number in poverty.

 

[Redfish]

Republicans have only found six blacks they have found worthy

would you name them, please.

They have elected one black Senator 50 years ago and five Congressmen that lasted one term

Impressive ....Republicans should be proud

and you have Charlie Rangel and Cynthia McKinney--------wow!

 

[LoneLaugher]

would you name them, please.

They have elected one black Senator 50 years ago and five Congressmen that lasted one term

Impressive ....Republicans should be proud

and you have Charlie Rangel and Cynthia McKinney--------wow!

I think you might be forgetting some.

 

[Erand7899]

Those are remarkable statistics

They show when Republicans used to actually care about Americans

They still do, supporting real freedom is the ultimate in caring for Americans, supporting slavery to the government feeding trougth is the ultimate is not caring.

you have it totally backwards, norton. too much time breathing sewer gas?

Thanks for reminding us how great the Republican Party used to be. It is part of the reason I became a Republican. They were the party that cared about working Americans. The party of equal rights
But then, a radical shift occurred. They became the unabashed party of the rich. Trickle down was their mantra......take care of the rich and they will take care of you
The working class became the enemy

Hogwash! The working class needs jobs, not welfare. Jobs are created by a growing economy, and not by government. You need to quit swilling the kool-aid, and begin to think for yourself.

The rich don't get rich, or stay rich, by sitting on their wealth. They invest that wealth in the economy when they believe they will get a reasonable return on their investment. When government policies, tax rates and regulations make obtaining a reasonable rate of return difficult, the rich look elsewhere for their investments.

The government can only help the economy by improving the economic atmosphere and encouraging investment.

 

[paperview]

They have elected one black Senator 50 years ago and five Congressmen that lasted one term

Impressive ....Republicans should be proud

and you have Charlie Rangel and Cynthia McKinney--------wow!

I think you might be forgetting some.

In alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll those years since ..oh, 1929, you'd think pubs could have found a way to elect just a few more black folks.

Here is a list of African Americans elected to Congress since 1929.
(compiled before the 2010 election, so it does not reflect current count):
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Pay special attention to the party affiliation:

Oscar Stanton De Priest Republican Illinois 1929-1935
Arthur W. Mitchell Democrat Illinois 1935-1943
William L. Dawson Democrat Illinois 1943-1970
Adam Clayton Powell, Jr. Democrat New York 1945-1967, 1967-1971
Charles Diggs Democrat Michigan 1955-1980
Robert N.C. Nix, Sr. Democrat Pennsylvania 1958-1979
John Conyers Democrat 1965-present
Bill Clay Democrat Missouri 1969-2001
Louis Stokes Democrat Ohio 1969-1999
Shirley Chisholm Democrat New York 1969-1983
George W. Collins Democrat Illinois 1970-1972
Ron Dellums Democrat California 1971-1998
Ralph Metcalfe Democrat Illinois 1971-1978
Parren Mitchell Democrat Maryland 1971-1987
Charles B. Rangel Democrat New York 1971-present
Yvonne Brathwaite Burke Democrat California 1973-1979
Cardiss Collins Democrat Illinois 1973-1997
Barbara Jordan Democrat Texas 1973-1979
Andrew Young Democrat Georgia 1973-1977
Harold Ford, Sr. Democrat Tennessee 1975-1997
Julian C. Dixon Democrat California 1979-2000
William H. Gray, III Democrat Pennsylvania 1979-1991
Mickey Leland Democrat Texas 1979-1989
Bennett M. Stewart Democrat Illinois 1979-1981
George W. Crockett, Jr. Democrat Michigan 1980-1991
Mervyn M. Dymally Democrat California 1981-1993
Gus Savage Democrat Illinois 1981-1993
Harold Washington Democrat Illinois 1981-1983
Katie Hall Democrat Indiana 1982-1985
Major Owens Democrat New York 1983-2007
Ed Towns Democrat New York 1983-present
Alan Wheat Democrat Missouri 1983-1995
Charles Hayes Democrat Illinois 1983-1993
Alton R. Waldon, Jr. Democrat New York 1986-1987
Mike Espy Democrat Mississippi 1987-1993
Floyd H. Flake Democrat New York 1987-1998
John Lewis Democrat Georgia 1987-present
Kweisi Mfume Democrat Maryland 1987-1996
Donald M. Payne Democrat New Jersey 1989-present
Craig Anthony Washington Democrat Texas 1989-1995
Barbara-Rose Collins Democrat Michigan 1991-1997
Gary Franks Republican Connecticut 1991-1997
William J. Jefferson Democrat Louisiana 1991-2009
Maxine Waters Democrat California 1991-present
Lucien E. Blackwell Democrat Pennsylvania 1991-1995
Eva M. Clayton Democrat North Carolina 1992-2003
Sanford Bishop Democrat Georgia 1993-present
Corrine Brown Democrat Florida 1993-present
Jim Clyburn Democrat South Carolina 1993-present
Cleo Fields Democrat Louisiana 1993-1997
Alcee Hastings Democrat Florida 1993-present
Earl Hilliard Democrat Alabama 1993-2003
Eddie Bernice Johnson Democrat Texas 1993-present
Cynthia McKinney Democrat Georgia 1993-2003, 2005-2007
Carrie P. Meek Democrat Florida 1993-2003
Mel Reynolds Democrat Illinois 1993-1995
Bobby Rush Democrat Illinois 1993-present
Robert C. Scott Democrat Virginia 1993-present
Walter Tucker Democrat California 1993-1995
Mel Watt Democrat North Carolina 1993-present
Albert Wynn Democrat Maryland 1993-2008
Bennie Thompson Democrat Mississippi 1993-present
Chaka Fattah Democrat Pennsylvania 1995-present
Sheila Jackson-Lee Democrat Texas 1995-present
J. C. Watts Republican Oklahoma 1995-2003
Jesse Jackson, Jr. Democrat Illinois 1995-present
Juanita Millender-McDonald Democrat California 1996-2007
Elijah Cummings Democrat Maryland 1996-present
Julia Carson Democrat Indiana 1997-2007
Danny K. Davis Democrat Illinois 1997-present
Harold Ford, Jr. Democrat Tennessee 1997-2007
Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick Democrat Michigan 1997-present
Gregory W. Meeks Democrat New York 1998-present
Barbara Lee Democrat California 1998-present
Stephanie Tubbs Jones Democrat Ohio 1999-2008
William Lacy Clay, Jr. Democrat Missouri 2001-present
Diane Watson Democrat California 2001-present
Frank Ballance Democrat North Carolina 2003-2004
Artur Davis Democrat Alabama 2003-present
Denise Majette Democrat Georgia 2003-2005
Kendrick Meek Democrat Florida 2003-present
David Scott Democrat Georgia 2003-present
G. K. Butterfield Democrat North Carolina 2004-present
Emanuel Cleaver Democrat Missouri 2005-present
Al Green Democrat Texas 2005-present
Gwen Moore Democrat Wisconsin 2005-present
Yvette D. Clarke Democrat New York 2007-present
Keith Ellison Democrat Minnesota 2007-present
Hank Johnson Democrat Georgia 2007-present
Laura Richardson Democrat California 2007-present
André Carson Democrat Indiana 2008-present
Donna Edwards Democrat Maryland 2008-present
Marcia Fudge Democrat Ohio 2008-present

...in allllllllllllllllllllllllllllll those years...THREE republicans.
93 democrats. ---> Since 1929.
Grand Total: THREE REPUBLICANS.
THREE.

*note again this was compiled pre-2010 elections. Since then a few more added, including the one termer West, and the Senator that was installed by the Governor (not elected as Senator)

 

[Kosh]

It is amazing how the Republicans were the party that did the most for minorities, but the Democrats try and take credit for it.

Yet some how the African American community goes (D) yet holding more values in the (R) category.

The current conspiracy theory is that many in the African American communities turned on the (R)'s because they did not get what was promised to them such as the land, etc.

The black vote held for Hoover in 1932, but started moving toward Roosevelt. By 1940 the majority of northern blacks were voting Democratic.

Minority parties tend to factionalize and after 1936 the GOP split into a conservative faction (dominant in the West and Midwest) and a liberal faction (dominant in the Northeast)—combined with a residual base of inherited progressive Republicanism active throughout the century. In 1936 Kansas governor Alf Landon and his young followers defeated the Herbert Hoover faction. Landon generally supported most New Deal programs, but carried only two states in the Roosevelt landslide with his moderate campaign. The GOP was left with only 16 senators and 88 representatives to oppose the New Deal, with Massachusetts Senator Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. as the sole victor over a Democratic incumbent.

Roosevelt alienated many conservative Democrats, in 1937, by his unexpected plan to “pack” the Supreme Court via the Judiciary Reorganization Bill of 1937. Following a sharp recession that hit early in 1938, major strikes all over the country, and Roosevelt's failed efforts to radically reorganize the Supreme Court and federal courts, the GOP gained 75 House seats in 1938. Conservative Democrats, mostly from the South, joined with Republicans led by Senator Robert A. Taft to create the conservative coalition, which dominated domestic issues in Congress until 1964.

Of course what started the whole movement for Africian Americans to side with the (D)'s was this man:

Marcus Mosiah Garvey, Jr., ONH (17 August 1887 – 10 June 1940), was a Jamaican political leader, publisher, journalist, entrepreneur, and orator who was a staunch proponent of the Black nationalism and Pan-Africanism movements, to which end he founded the Universal Negro Improvement Association and African Communities League (UNIA-ACL). He founded the Black Star Line, part of the Back-to-Africa movement, which promoted the return of the African diaspora to their ancestral lands.

Since the ideas of the New Deal corresponded with the teachings of Garvey, the African American community supported (D)'s.

Blacks mostly voted Republican from after the Civil War and through the early part of the 20th century. That’s not surprising when one considers that Abraham Lincoln was the first Republican president, and the white, segregationist politicians who governed Southern states in those days were Democrats. The Democratic Party didn’t welcome blacks then, and it wasn’t until 1924 that blacks were even permitted to attend Democratic conventions in any official capacity. Most blacks lived in the South, where they were mostly prevented from voting at all.

The election of Roosevelt in 1932 marked the beginning of a change. He got 71 percent of the black vote for president in 1936 and did nearly that well in the next two elections, according to historical figures kept by the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies. But even then, the number of blacks identifying themselves as Republicans was about the same as the number who thought of themselves as Democrats.

It wasn’t until Harry Truman garnered 77 percent of the black vote in 1948 that a majority of blacks reported that they thought of themselves as Democrats. Earlier that year Truman had issued an order desegregating the armed services and an executive order setting up regulations against racial bias in federal employment.

Even after that, Republican nominees continued to get a large slice of the black vote for several elections. Dwight D. Eisenhower got 39 percent in 1956, and Richard Nixon got 32 percent in his narrow loss to John F. Kennedy in 1960.

But then President Lyndon B. Johnson pushed through the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 (outlawing segregation in public places) and his eventual Republican opponent, Sen. Barry Goldwater, opposed it. Johnson got 94 percent of the black vote that year, still a record for any presidential election.

The following year Johnson signed the 1965 Voting Rights Act. No Republican presidential candidate has gotten more than 15 percent of the black vote since.

Footnote: Younger African American voters have been edging away from the Democratic Party in recent years. David Bositis of the Joint Center notes "a fairly long-term pattern of decreasing identification with the Democrats by younger African Americans." Of course, it remains to be seen what the 2008 campaign will bring.

Sources

Bositis, David A. "Blacks and the 2004 Democratic National Convention." Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, Table 1, Presidential vote and party identification of black Americans, 1936–2000; p. 9.

Bositis, David A. "The Black Vote in 2004," Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, 2005.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_Republican_Party Link Added by Intense.

 

[boedicca]

13th amendment: abolished slavery
100% republican support, 23% democrat support

14th amendment: gave citizenship to freed slaves
94% republican support, 0% democrat support

15th amendment: right to vote for all
100% republican support, 0% democrat support

Obamacare
0% republican support
100% democrat support


Need I say more?

Yea you do need to say more. When was it that the Republican party decided they no longer wanted to support minorities?

When did the Repubs decide they no longer needed the support of minorities?


And if ANY political party decided to make a minority (blacks and Hispanic) a political scapegoat, how long do you think the minority will support this political party?

What a tool.

The Dems and their MSM Megaphones like to promote the idea that the GOP doesn't support minorities...but it is the welfare state Big Government Cronyism programs that Dems enact which keep minorities undereducated, unemployed and poor.

Hopenchange!

 

[Intense]

13th amendment: abolished slavery
100% republican support, 23% democrat support

14th amendment: gave citizenship to freed slaves
94% republican support, 0% democrat support

15th amendment: right to vote for all
100% republican support, 0% democrat support

Obamacare
0% republican support
100% democrat support


Need I say more?

Yea you do need to say more. When was it that the Republican party decided they no longer wanted to support minorities?

When did the Repubs decide they no longer needed the support of minorities?


And if ANY political party decided to make a minority (blacks and Hispanic) a political scapegoat, how long do you think the minority will support this political party?

At what cost?
How much compensation does it take to buy Your Vote? How much for You to abandon Principle?

 

[rightwinger]

Have you asked Alan West about that? How about Thomas Sowell? Mia Love, Deneen Borelli, Charles Payne. Just to name a few that you might recognize.

There are millions of minorities who are conservative and republican.

Many more are waking up to the fraud that dems and libs have perpetrated on them for years.

Who?

How many hold elected office? When was the last time Republicans supported a bill that actually helped minorities?
We know they have supported bills that support the rich

Do you expect me to post millions of names? I gave you several prominent ones. Would a balanced budget help minorities? would repeal of ACA help minorities? would removing job-killing regulations help minorities? would more freedom help minorities start businesses?

sorry, norton, but your tax and spend liberalism is failing big time as we speak, obamacare will be the final nail in the coffin of liberalism. Its done, a failed experiment that has cost the country trillions and has not brought one person out of poverty, instead is has increased the number in poverty.

Try delivering some of those phantom jobs you have been promising and maybe minorities will start to come around.
Try showing some respect without claiminig they are mooches looking for handouts
Try presenting yourself as anything but shills for the rich

Until such time, Republicans will lose the minority vote.......rightfully so

 

[OODA_Loop]

Hogwash! The working class needs jobs, not welfare.

Keep the poor dependent on the .gov check.

Stay in power for ever.

The last thing the Dems want to encourage is self-sufficiency.

 

[paperview]

It is amazing how the Republicans were the party that did the most for minorities, but the Democrats try and take credit for it.
<snip>

With the exception of a few lines, you just cut and pasted wholesale Wikipedia and Factcheck.

Didn't even give them credit for using that information word for word.

Nice job.

 

[rightwinger]

Footnote: Younger African American voters have been edging away from the Democratic Party in recent years. David Bositis of the Joint Center notes "a fairly long-term pattern of decreasing identification with the Democrats by younger African Americans." Of course, it remains to be seen what the 2008 campaign will bring.

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I remember what happened to Republicans and the black vote in 2008

 

[paperview]

Footnote: Younger African American voters have been edging away from the Democratic Party in recent years. David Bositis of the Joint Center notes "a fairly long-term pattern of decreasing identification with the Democrats by younger African Americans." Of course, it remains to be seen what the 2008 campaign will bring.

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I remember what happened to Republicans and the black vote in 2008

That's part of what makes part of that FactCheck/Wiki cut and past so funny.

"Of course, it remains to be seen what the 2008 campaign will bring."

lol

How did it go there OKoshbiGosh?