ALL wrong next lying leftist murderer. You need to learn the FACTS about the times before you post anything to rebut the Truth
Actually I lean towards the right. Just not a fan of the KKK. I gave you facts. You gave me name calling. Done.
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ALL wrong next lying leftist murderer. You need to learn the FACTS about the times before you post anything to rebut the Truth
Well I'd be fine with a confederate statue being taken down in my community if it was up to a vote and I don't support any of that crap you just spewed. I doubt I'm the only one that feels this way, it's just common sense. Sorry, guess you're just wrong.DAMN LIE they want to subjugate everyone by force, and they know if they can marginalize small groups of people there will be less backlash when they kill them then as the groups are killed, they attatch other people to the groups and kill them AND >>>>>>>>> JUST ASK the 70 women and children they murdered at MT Carmel. Got news for you this shit will end soon and you dimshit scum aren't gonna like it.Pretty simple, people want to remove statues that stand for messages of hate and racism. It's not complicated. You can't really deny that many were erected with those purposes... same thing with the confederate flagYou don't see the difference between the soldiers and the generals/leaders? Come on Marty, think on this one for a few minutes.
It does not matter what the damn statue is, it is being taken down. IT IS about the soldiers, if you are too stupid to know that which I doubt, you are too stupid to know the truth about why anyone would want to remove them.
have you not been paying attention to what's been happening this past week? Trumps business advisory councils, gone. Military generals speaking out. Republican allies to trump like corker speaking out. Open you're eyes chica you got blinders onYou must be able to back that up, if you're going to claim it.You are probably right, the vast majority of the nation including many republicans, accomplished CEOs and Trump supporters are all just crazy and reacting to nothing. Keep running with that. Ignorance is bliss I guessActually, it's absolutely flawless. He called out all of the guilty parties, and lumped ANTIFA in with the white supremacist crowds, where they belong, because they're all thugs.You should check that logic. It's completely wrongIf you didn't think they were blameless, you wouldn't have whined that Trump called them out.Don't make assumptions child... I never said that the left was blameless, in fact i've said the exact opposite many times. Don't put words in my mouth. Maybe take a little less time making false assumptions and more time trying to comprehend and understand what other people are trying to say. My message obviously went right over your head.
The leftists pretending to be rightists getting angry is nothing new, they've been against Trump since the beginning. The leftists whining is also nothing new. No, what I want you to prove is that the "vast majority of the nation" is up in arms over Trump pointing out ANTIFA is also in the wrong.have you not been paying attention to what's been happening this past week? Trumps business advisory councils, gone. Military generals speaking out. Republican allies to trump like corker speaking out. Open you're eyes chica you got blinders onYou must be able to back that up, if you're going to claim it.You are probably right, the vast majority of the nation including many republicans, accomplished CEOs and Trump supporters are all just crazy and reacting to nothing. Keep running with that. Ignorance is bliss I guessActually, it's absolutely flawless. He called out all of the guilty parties, and lumped ANTIFA in with the white supremacist crowds, where they belong, because they're all thugs.You should check that logic. It's completely wrongIf you didn't think they were blameless, you wouldn't have whined that Trump called them out.
You think corker is a leftist pretending to be a rightist? Really? Care to explain why?The leftists pretending to be rightists getting angry is nothing new, they've been against Trump since the beginning. The leftists whining is also nothing new. No, what I want you to prove is that the "vast majority of the nation" is up in arms over Trump pointing out ANTIFA is also in the wrong.have you not been paying attention to what's been happening this past week? Trumps business advisory councils, gone. Military generals speaking out. Republican allies to trump like corker speaking out. Open you're eyes chica you got blinders onYou must be able to back that up, if you're going to claim it.You are probably right, the vast majority of the nation including many republicans, accomplished CEOs and Trump supporters are all just crazy and reacting to nothing. Keep running with that. Ignorance is bliss I guessActually, it's absolutely flawless. He called out all of the guilty parties, and lumped ANTIFA in with the white supremacist crowds, where they belong, because they're all thugs.You should check that logic. It's completely wrong
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You think corker is a leftist pretending to be a rightist? Really? Care to explain why?The leftists pretending to be rightists getting angry is nothing new, they've been against Trump since the beginning. The leftists whining is also nothing new. No, what I want you to prove is that the "vast majority of the nation" is up in arms over Trump pointing out ANTIFA is also in the wrong.have you not been paying attention to what's been happening this past week? Trumps business advisory councils, gone. Military generals speaking out. Republican allies to trump like corker speaking out. Open you're eyes chica you got blinders onYou must be able to back that up, if you're going to claim it.You are probably right, the vast majority of the nation including many republicans, accomplished CEOs and Trump supporters are all just crazy and reacting to nothing. Keep running with that. Ignorance is bliss I guessActually, it's absolutely flawless. He called out all of the guilty parties, and lumped ANTIFA in with the white supremacist crowds, where they belong, because they're all thugs.
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Why can't you answer a simple question? I've asked you serveral times now and you keep diverting with overblown dramatic rhetoric.You still haven't answered my question... Why does it matter to you so much?No I don't think it's sad. I think traditions are carried on and celebrated. Heritage expands through time and we all get closer to a more unified HUMAN race. Preserve history and tradition, but don't start war over bloodlines, that's useless.So, you don't think it's sad if Scottish, English, Spanish, Italian, and Portuguese heritages disappear?
All asked again, why is heritage so important to you? Is it worth dying for?
You're making vivid that the future inhabitants will care about your history, or will respect your heritage.
I don't necessarily think it's a given that the group that goes onto dominate by numbers will respect the group they replace, which is just how stupid you anti-Racists are.
Because of some kind of stupid equality position, they're willing to bring potential abuse upon their own, and even demise to their own.
That's not normal behavior, that's unfeeling, sub-Human, Psychopathic, idiotic, senseless behavior.
Why should anything on the planet matter?
Might as well blow up the planet with a nuclear bomb, destroying all life.
Because nothing matters.
Well, I'm so sorry, I'm not a Psychopath.
To be clear, my arguement to you is that life matters, happiness matters, how we live our lives matter. I don't understand hateful and divisive efforts, especially over something as petty and superficial as race. We are all living together on one planet. Carry on with whatever cultural traditions from your ancestors that you hold dear, instill those values in your children and they will pass them on. But why judge what other people do and spend so much energy spreading such ugliness? What is it about "heritage" that is so important to you?
No more petty empty diversions, answer the question with a thoughtful argument and engage in intellectual debate or stop wasting my time.
Pretty simple, people want to remove statues that stand for messages of hate and racism. It's not complicated. You can't really deny that many were erected with those purposes... same thing with the confederate flagYou don't see the difference between the soldiers and the generals/leaders? Come on Marty, think on this one for a few minutes.
It does not matter what the damn statue is, it is being taken down. IT IS about the soldiers, if you are too stupid to know that which I doubt, you are too stupid to know the truth about why anyone would want to remove them.
You're clearly deflecting because you can't prove that the vast majority of the nation holds your view.You think corker is a leftist pretending to be a rightist? Really? Care to explain why?The leftists pretending to be rightists getting angry is nothing new, they've been against Trump since the beginning. The leftists whining is also nothing new. No, what I want you to prove is that the "vast majority of the nation" is up in arms over Trump pointing out ANTIFA is also in the wrong.have you not been paying attention to what's been happening this past week? Trumps business advisory councils, gone. Military generals speaking out. Republican allies to trump like corker speaking out. Open you're eyes chica you got blinders onYou must be able to back that up, if you're going to claim it.You are probably right, the vast majority of the nation including many republicans, accomplished CEOs and Trump supporters are all just crazy and reacting to nothing. Keep running with that. Ignorance is bliss I guessActually, it's absolutely flawless. He called out all of the guilty parties, and lumped ANTIFA in with the white supremacist crowds, where they belong, because they're all thugs.
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Recent polls show that 62% of Americans believe the statues should be left in place.Well I'd be fine with a confederate statue being taken down in my community if it was up to a vote and I don't support any of that crap you just spewed. I doubt I'm the only one that feels this way, it's just common sense. Sorry, guess you're just wrong.DAMN LIE they want to subjugate everyone by force, and they know if they can marginalize small groups of people there will be less backlash when they kill them then as the groups are killed, they attatch other people to the groups and kill them AND >>>>>>>>> JUST ASK the 70 women and children they murdered at MT Carmel. Got news for you this shit will end soon and you dimshit scum aren't gonna like it.Pretty simple, people want to remove statues that stand for messages of hate and racism. It's not complicated. You can't really deny that many were erected with those purposes... same thing with the confederate flagYou don't see the difference between the soldiers and the generals/leaders? Come on Marty, think on this one for a few minutes.
It does not matter what the damn statue is, it is being taken down. IT IS about the soldiers, if you are too stupid to know that which I doubt, you are too stupid to know the truth about why anyone would want to remove them.
I understand the motivation to stand up to and fight against the "evil"Glad to see you have your priorities straight... I'm fogged in :-/Where do you see evidence that they have issues with the Jews? Their literature and actions show anti-hate efforts against white supremacists and Nazis. That would show that they are trying and stand up for blacks and Jews.First, you look at their organization. They aren't an organization (ANTIFA) I can't find a website for them in this country, only the U.K. If you look, and I'll include a link so you can see, the rhetoric is the exact same as that as the conspiracy nuts who are regularly quoted by nut jobs on both ends. Being what it is, when you beat ANTIFA on the news in this country it's typically the same people you see at G20 summits burning shit. They even say so in their rhetoric on Facebook, twitter and such. Anyway, if you see ANTIFA you can bet BLM was there, code pink and the rest. This is why the beanie and masks. No Democrat dare disavow them because they fear losing more black votes as
well as white people who are "down with the cause". As for the rhetoric. Let's compare them some,
Alleged ANTIFT hand book.
The Antifa Handbook - 1A
"Antifascists argue that after the horrors of chattel slavery and the Holocaust, physical violence against white supremacists is both ethically justifiable and strategically effective. We should not, they argue, abstractly assess the ethical status of violence in the absence of the values and context behind it. Instead, they put forth an ethically consistent, historically informed argument for fighting Nazis before it’s too late."
Hmmm, so it's by their own admission a fact they exist only to cause trouble.
That said, for the purposes of the discussion, does Antifa have an issue with Jews? Yes, it's plainly on all their rhetoric that's on he well in photos and literature. Can you agree about that?
I don't like their tactics so I won't stand up for the violence and destruction, but they do appear to support the anti-hate causes in their mission statement.
Please explain better why you think they are anti Jew and supporting the white supremacists causes like you claimed.
Gotta hold there. Doing the eclipse with my girl child. Way more fun gen this!
Hey, real fast, interesting and informative article. Personally, I would be more inclined to listening to a guy or gal who was not in a mask and breaking stuff. Good article though.
Analysis | Who are the antifa?
But what is antifa? Where did it come from? Militant anti-fascist or “antifa” (pronounced ANtifa) is a radical pan-leftist politics of social revolution applied to fighting the far right. Its adherents are predominantly communists, socialists and anarchists who reject turning to the police or the state to halt the advance of white supremacy. Instead they advocate popular opposition to fascism as we witnessed in Charlottesville.
Well, you might have the right to free speech, but when you come in torch light parades, carrying the swastika and chanting nazi slogans, then show up the next day with shields and clubs, you are beyond the protection of free speech. I was born in the middle of a war created by the Nazis. 50 million people died in that war. There is no way that we can tolerate the bastards getting a foothold here. When they come with weapons, meet them with weapons.Thank you. When we make it ok to remove rights if we don't like you we are finished as a country of who we have been for 250 years.It's been a crazy week and i've engaged in many heated discussions about the events of Charlottesville. I have to admit that i've been greatly conflicted about my anti-racist feelings and my support of free speech. I flirted dangerously close in many discussions to promoting the shutdown of speech for white supremacist groups. I saw them as threats, conveyers of hate speech and given their history which has resulted in millions of deaths I was ok with suppressing their speech and shutting down their causes by whatever means necessary. But, I've had a change of heart.
I think we can be smarter than that and not empower these assholes to strip us of our freedoms. It is a slippery slope once you start suppressing speech. We have legal censorship in a variety of areas which i'm fine with, but shutting down groups from holding rallies, having websites and protesting is only going to lead to bad things. Note that I in no way support any provocation of violence or destruction resulting from rallies or protests. If that happens then shut them down immediately and make arrests.
I would promote fighting these douchebags by ignoring them and minimizing them in a SMART way. Don't lower yourself to fight with them and fuel their cause. Take away their statues and flags that empower them in public forums and show them that our communities outright reject their hateful views. Or construct monuments and statues of civil rights leaders next to the confederate statues and tell the story about how we prevailed and fought agains their hate, and WE WON. Ignore their rallies and don't give them the exposure or attention that they crave. Speak louder and stronger for equality.
I still think that the Presidents comments that minimized the ugliness of the Nazi's and White Supremacists were wildly inappropriate. He tried to spread the blame to the left for the anti-protests and it deluded his message of condemnation that should have been crystal clear in opposition of the hate groups. He should have spread the message in a better way to fight against it. I don't want to relitigate Trumps actions in this OP but I did want to share my change of opinion and open up a discussion about productive ways to move forward that combats the hate and preserves our right of free speech.
A great idea!!Well, you might have the right to free speech, but when you come in torch light parades, carrying the swastika and chanting nazi slogans, then show up the next day with shields and clubs, you are beyond the protection of free speech. I was born in the middle of a war created by the Nazis. 50 million people died in that war. There is no way that we can tolerate the bastards getting a foothold here. When they come with weapons, meet them with weapons.Thank you. When we make it ok to remove rights if we don't like you we are finished as a country of who we have been for 250 years.It's been a crazy week and i've engaged in many heated discussions about the events of Charlottesville. I have to admit that i've been greatly conflicted about my anti-racist feelings and my support of free speech. I flirted dangerously close in many discussions to promoting the shutdown of speech for white supremacist groups. I saw them as threats, conveyers of hate speech and given their history which has resulted in millions of deaths I was ok with suppressing their speech and shutting down their causes by whatever means necessary. But, I've had a change of heart.
I think we can be smarter than that and not empower these assholes to strip us of our freedoms. It is a slippery slope once you start suppressing speech. We have legal censorship in a variety of areas which i'm fine with, but shutting down groups from holding rallies, having websites and protesting is only going to lead to bad things. Note that I in no way support any provocation of violence or destruction resulting from rallies or protests. If that happens then shut them down immediately and make arrests.
I would promote fighting these douchebags by ignoring them and minimizing them in a SMART way. Don't lower yourself to fight with them and fuel their cause. Take away their statues and flags that empower them in public forums and show them that our communities outright reject their hateful views. Or construct monuments and statues of civil rights leaders next to the confederate statues and tell the story about how we prevailed and fought agains their hate, and WE WON. Ignore their rallies and don't give them the exposure or attention that they crave. Speak louder and stronger for equality.
I still think that the Presidents comments that minimized the ugliness of the Nazi's and White Supremacists were wildly inappropriate. He tried to spread the blame to the left for the anti-protests and it deluded his message of condemnation that should have been crystal clear in opposition of the hate groups. He should have spread the message in a better way to fight against it. I don't want to relitigate Trumps actions in this OP but I did want to share my change of opinion and open up a discussion about productive ways to move forward that combats the hate and preserves our right of free speech.
In Boston, we saw the best way to destroy these cancers on society. 40,000 good citizens showed up to say 'no way' to the nazis. And the police stated that anyone with weapons would immediately be arrested. The cowards did not show up. Nor will they if they have to face the good citizens of this nation.
Seems those that own the land the statues are on are the ones that should be making the decisions as to whether they stay or go. In other words the cities, universities, and counties.Recent polls show that 62% of Americans believe the statues should be left in place.Well I'd be fine with a confederate statue being taken down in my community if it was up to a vote and I don't support any of that crap you just spewed. I doubt I'm the only one that feels this way, it's just common sense. Sorry, guess you're just wrong.DAMN LIE they want to subjugate everyone by force, and they know if they can marginalize small groups of people there will be less backlash when they kill them then as the groups are killed, they attatch other people to the groups and kill them AND >>>>>>>>> JUST ASK the 70 women and children they murdered at MT Carmel. Got news for you this shit will end soon and you dimshit scum aren't gonna like it.Pretty simple, people want to remove statues that stand for messages of hate and racism. It's not complicated. You can't really deny that many were erected with those purposes... same thing with the confederate flagYou don't see the difference between the soldiers and the generals/leaders? Come on Marty, think on this one for a few minutes.
It does not matter what the damn statue is, it is being taken down. IT IS about the soldiers, if you are too stupid to know that which I doubt, you are too stupid to know the truth about why anyone would want to remove them.
Are you willing to support that?
Look asshole, the people that wanted to speak were able to speak. They just were not allowed weapons and shields. And without those, the cowards did not show up.A great idea!!Well, you might have the right to free speech, but when you come in torch light parades, carrying the swastika and chanting nazi slogans, then show up the next day with shields and clubs, you are beyond the protection of free speech. I was born in the middle of a war created by the Nazis. 50 million people died in that war. There is no way that we can tolerate the bastards getting a foothold here. When they come with weapons, meet them with weapons.Thank you. When we make it ok to remove rights if we don't like you we are finished as a country of who we have been for 250 years.It's been a crazy week and i've engaged in many heated discussions about the events of Charlottesville. I have to admit that i've been greatly conflicted about my anti-racist feelings and my support of free speech. I flirted dangerously close in many discussions to promoting the shutdown of speech for white supremacist groups. I saw them as threats, conveyers of hate speech and given their history which has resulted in millions of deaths I was ok with suppressing their speech and shutting down their causes by whatever means necessary. But, I've had a change of heart.
I think we can be smarter than that and not empower these assholes to strip us of our freedoms. It is a slippery slope once you start suppressing speech. We have legal censorship in a variety of areas which i'm fine with, but shutting down groups from holding rallies, having websites and protesting is only going to lead to bad things. Note that I in no way support any provocation of violence or destruction resulting from rallies or protests. If that happens then shut them down immediately and make arrests.
I would promote fighting these douchebags by ignoring them and minimizing them in a SMART way. Don't lower yourself to fight with them and fuel their cause. Take away their statues and flags that empower them in public forums and show them that our communities outright reject their hateful views. Or construct monuments and statues of civil rights leaders next to the confederate statues and tell the story about how we prevailed and fought agains their hate, and WE WON. Ignore their rallies and don't give them the exposure or attention that they crave. Speak louder and stronger for equality.
I still think that the Presidents comments that minimized the ugliness of the Nazi's and White Supremacists were wildly inappropriate. He tried to spread the blame to the left for the anti-protests and it deluded his message of condemnation that should have been crystal clear in opposition of the hate groups. He should have spread the message in a better way to fight against it. I don't want to relitigate Trumps actions in this OP but I did want to share my change of opinion and open up a discussion about productive ways to move forward that combats the hate and preserves our right of free speech.
In Boston, we saw the best way to destroy these cancers on society. 40,000 good citizens showed up to say 'no way' to the nazis. And the police stated that anyone with weapons would immediately be arrested. The cowards did not show up. Nor will they if they have to face the good citizens of this nation.
Squelch dissenting opinion.
It makes it ever so much easier to control the masses.
Man, you are really struggling to give direct answers... let's stop with the foolish assumptions and just talk straight shall we?Why can't you answer a simple question? I've asked you serveral times now and you keep diverting with overblown dramatic rhetoric.You still haven't answered my question... Why does it matter to you so much?No I don't think it's sad. I think traditions are carried on and celebrated. Heritage expands through time and we all get closer to a more unified HUMAN race. Preserve history and tradition, but don't start war over bloodlines, that's useless.
All asked again, why is heritage so important to you? Is it worth dying for?
You're making vivid that the future inhabitants will care about your history, or will respect your heritage.
I don't necessarily think it's a given that the group that goes onto dominate by numbers will respect the group they replace, which is just how stupid you anti-Racists are.
Because of some kind of stupid equality position, they're willing to bring potential abuse upon their own, and even demise to their own.
That's not normal behavior, that's unfeeling, sub-Human, Psychopathic, idiotic, senseless behavior.
Why should anything on the planet matter?
Might as well blow up the planet with a nuclear bomb, destroying all life.
Because nothing matters.
Well, I'm so sorry, I'm not a Psychopath.
To be clear, my arguement to you is that life matters, happiness matters, how we live our lives matter. I don't understand hateful and divisive efforts, especially over something as petty and superficial as race. We are all living together on one planet. Carry on with whatever cultural traditions from your ancestors that you hold dear, instill those values in your children and they will pass them on. But why judge what other people do and spend so much energy spreading such ugliness? What is it about "heritage" that is so important to you?
No more petty empty diversions, answer the question with a thoughtful argument and engage in intellectual debate or stop wasting my time.
So, you sound like you hate diversity.
You seem to want to destroy the diversity of the World.
Why should we destroy diverse, and unique heritages when we can humanely just enforce immigration laws?
No, race is not really superficial.
There's clear sweeping disparities between the races in intelligence.
No, you can't just explain away the disparities of intelligence by only environmental explanations.
We have always tried to restrain our tards. I wish the left would do the same.It's been a crazy week and i've engaged in many heated discussions about the events of Charlottesville. I have to admit that i've been greatly conflicted about my anti-racist feelings and my support of free speech. I flirted dangerously close in many discussions to promoting the shutdown of speech for white supremacist groups. I saw them as threats, conveyers of hate speech and given their history which has resulted in millions of deaths I was ok with suppressing their speech and shutting down their causes by whatever means necessary. But, I've had a change of heart.
I think we can be smarter than that and not empower these assholes to strip us of our freedoms. It is a slippery slope once you start suppressing speech. We have legal censorship in a variety of areas which i'm fine with, but shutting down groups from holding rallies, having websites and protesting is only going to lead to bad things. Note that I in no way support any provocation of violence or destruction resulting from rallies or protests. If that happens then shut them down immediately and make arrests.
I would promote fighting these douchebags by ignoring them and minimizing them in a SMART way. Don't lower yourself to fight with them and fuel their cause. Take away their statues and flags that empower them in public forums and show them that our communities outright reject their hateful views. Or construct monuments and statues of civil rights leaders next to the confederate statues and tell the story about how we prevailed and fought agains their hate, and WE WON. Ignore their rallies and don't give them the exposure or attention that they crave. Speak louder and stronger for equality.
I still think that the Presidents comments that minimized the ugliness of the Nazi's and White Supremacists were wildly inappropriate. He tried to spread the blame to the left for the anti-protests and it deluded his message of condemnation that should have been crystal clear in opposition of the hate groups. He should have spread the message in a better way to fight against it. I don't want to relitigate Trumps actions in this OP but I did want to share my change of opinion and open up a discussion about productive ways to move forward that combats the hate and preserves our right of free speech.
What kind of racist would want to import blacks into their back yards? Uh, the kind that see blacks a subhuman work horses whose only purpose is to serve their master. Maybe use the women preparing the meals and for the occasional rape. Get the guys out in the fields to do the grunt work. Yeah, those kind of racists DID that. You're not the sharpest tool in the shed are you?Pretty simple, people want to remove statues that stand for messages of hate and racism. It's not complicated. You can't really deny that many were erected with those purposes... same thing with the confederate flagYou don't see the difference between the soldiers and the generals/leaders? Come on Marty, think on this one for a few minutes.
It does not matter what the damn statue is, it is being taken down. IT IS about the soldiers, if you are too stupid to know that which I doubt, you are too stupid to know the truth about why anyone would want to remove them.
What hate, and Racism in those statues?
The Confederates were economic extreme Capitalists.
They saw slavery as a means of profit, nothing to do with hate, and racism.
For goodness sake, slavery was a business, which imported Blacks into their own backyards.
How is that racist?
How many racists do you know want to import Blacks into their own backyards?