Remember the days when Governor Cuomo caught the heat over the most Covid deaths?

Hayes: Amid coronavirus surge, U.S. stuck with ‘same horrible choice’ as in start of pandemic And remember when Republicans were blaming Cuomo over the high number of cases coming from nursing homes? We'll, who are you going to blame now, because two of the three governors with the highest cases are Republicans? Who are you going to scapegoat now, when it was Republican states who were the loudest voices about opening the economy back up? Face it, the Right doesn't have what it takes to battle this virus, and they are only stalling for the inevitable. And that is a total shut down. Chris Hayes, along with others had it figured out a long time ago, and these Trump Sheep went right along with the commander of genocide in chief, to ignore the whole thing. How can so many people be this damn stupid? And it comes at a cost too. "Loss of Human life!" With Trump in charge, the genocide only gets worse from here on out.

Like I said in March, Trump needs to suspend the election until the virus is eradicated
Trump is the reason we are still fighting this as we are now. With him, it never ends.

Please try to provide a reasonable explanation as to how this statement is even reasonable.

The Cuomovirus devastated New York...and that is Trump's fault.
 
1), not enough beds
If there are no ICU beds at the nursing home there is no good reason to send known china disease carriers there except to infect and kill as many old people as possible
That might make sense to a world full of delusional crazy people, but you're addressing me boss. Tell that to some of these Trump toads who will eat it up like bait on a hook, even though, I'm pretty sure they won't know what the fuck your are talking about either.
I have no idea what you are saying

there was no good reason for cuomo to send wuflu carriers into nursing homes except to kill as many elderly people as possible
 
Since the toads can't explain away the failures of these Republican governors, we'll just show them how full of shit they are ourselves.


You are showing someone is full of shit....you.

I appreciate your non-argument. It was expected.


You claim Republican Governors were failures....according to who ? You ?

Fail.

So you really don't have an argument

The video/ numbers of cases, proves I not only have an argument, I have the facts on my side, minus your non-existent factual rebuttal. So yes, Desantis and Abbott, got caught talking out of both sides of their mouths with contradictions. Now they are back pedaling.
 
1), not enough beds
If there are no ICU beds at the nursing home there is no good reason to send known china disease carriers there except to infect and kill as many old people as possible
That might make sense to a world full of delusional crazy people, but you're addressing me boss. Tell that to some of these Trump toads who will eat it up like bait on a hook, even though, I'm pretty sure they won't know what the fuck your are talking about either.
I have no idea what you are saying

there was no good reason for cuomo to send wuflu carriers into nursing homes except to kill as many elderly people as possible
Those people in nursing homes, were already in nursing homes. It is you who doesn't know what you are talking about.
 
Hayes: Amid coronavirus surge, U.S. stuck with ‘same horrible choice’ as in start of pandemic And remember when Republicans were blaming Cuomo over the high number of cases coming from nursing homes? We'll, who are you going to blame now, because two of the three governors with the highest cases are Republicans? Who are you going to scapegoat now, when it was Republican states who were the loudest voices about opening the economy back up? Face it, the Right doesn't have what it takes to battle this virus, and they are only stalling for the inevitable. And that is a total shut down. Chris Hayes, along with others had it figured out a long time ago, and these Trump Sheep went right along with the commander of genocide in chief, to ignore the whole thing. How can so many people be this damn stupid? And it comes at a cost too. "Loss of Human life!" With Trump in charge, the genocide only gets worse from here on out.
Did any of these Republicans force the virus into nursing homes?
No?

Okay, kindly fuck off now.
 
Since the toads can't explain away the failures of these Republican governors, we'll just show them how full of shit they are ourselves.


You are showing someone is full of shit....you.

I appreciate your non-argument. It was expected.


You claim Republican Governors were failures....according to who ? You ?

Fail.

So you really don't have an argument

The video/ numbers of cases, proves I not only have an argument, I have the facts on my side, minus your non-existent factual rebuttal. So yes, Desantis and Abbott, got caught talking out of both sides of their mouths with contradictions. Now they are back pedaling.


No, dickhead....a spike in cases does not mean anything if they are mostly low risk.

And my rebuttal is show in the World O Meters listing of deaths.

A couple of days ago we were only at 10% of what were at during the peak (in terms of deaths).

So, if they are backpedaling, it's because morons like you have your underwear wedged up your ass over a stupid bud.
 
He wasn't sending them there to kill them.
The legal term is criminal indifference

because the medicos knew that the elderly were most likely to die from the chinese disease

i cant tell you why cuomo condemned them die

but it was not for lack of bed space which trump made sure NY had plenty of
If you are out of hospital beds, should they have sent them to your house then?

"Why Cuomo condemned them to die" is not only stupid, it's a lie. You make shit up, and you are a coward who cannot make any excuses for those who have worse records. You failed to deliver. Move along. You cant debate this OP.
They were never out of hospital beds, you lying sack of shit.
 
Hayes: Amid coronavirus surge, U.S. stuck with ‘same horrible choice’ as in start of pandemic And remember when Republicans were blaming Cuomo over the high number of cases coming from nursing homes? We'll, who are you going to blame now, because two of the three governors with the highest cases are Republicans? Who are you going to scapegoat now, when it was Republican states who were the loudest voices about opening the economy back up? Face it, the Right doesn't have what it takes to battle this virus, and they are only stalling for the inevitable. And that is a total shut down. Chris Hayes, along with others had it figured out a long time ago, and these Trump Sheep went right along with the commander of genocide in chief, to ignore the whole thing. How can so many people be this damn stupid? And it comes at a cost too. "Loss of Human life!" With Trump in charge, the genocide only gets worse from here on out.
next week it may be democrat governed states.....now what?....
You tell me? Your side were the idiots running around like spoiled children with AR's crying about opening up, and said you were done with Covid, and the economy was more important. So you fucking tell me man child? Should we assign babysitters for all Republicans because they are too stupid and child like to get it? I love it. Now you ask others after it's too late. WTF is wrong with you Sheep for brains Trump supporters?
oh here is another idiot.....whats my side and when you tell me prove it?.....

next week it may be democrat governed states.....now what?....
The side that can't address the OP. That is what has been proven. DeSantis and Abbott were bragging about opening up their states, while blaming Cuomo for locking down. And? What do you have to say about that? Nothing! You just turn to Democrat governors. You're a coward, and by way of your response, that has been proven.
you dumbass.....why dont read whats been said by the person you want to criticize....i have said many a time that the republicans in congress and elsewhere should go straight to hell....now why dont you show a post of mine saying how wonderful republicans are.....and when you cant i will accept your apology something a coward like you would never do....
LOL! Boss, get a clue. I never said you said that. You redirected the conversation to Democrats. This is about those Governors and Republicans who criticized Cuomo for closing down their economy and blaming him on the the deaths of the nursing home residents. So, now what do they have to say about that? This isn't about Democrats. This is about Republicans running their mouths and now the shoe is on the other foot. No one has addressed my OP. Because they can't.
lol... no you get a clue....all i did was ask you what happens if next week it becomes the democrat states and then all this bullshit you threw at me comes out...its called a conversation, if you cant handle one of them maybe you should not be posting things.....
Ask me when it happens, then I'll tell you. In the mean time, the Right has paralyzed fingers going to a key board where those fingers can't type an explanation to my OP.
yea i remember what you are talking about and yes he got a lot of shit.....no matter who is in charge with this virus from the president on down to the mayors it has to be tough job because you dont know whats going to happen.....from the way this virus behaves to the behavior of the people who are worried about their jobs and were is the money they need to pay their bills and feed their family and on top of that they got the people out there demonstrating and the ones who are just out to do destroy things they dont like.....one state can look good this week and next week not look so good and a lot of it is because the people are worried about not only their well being but their jobs and are willing to take their chances outside.....and it has gotten to the point you dont know who to believe anymore.....trump?....i dont even listen anymore to the guy...the CDC?....other so called "experts"....its getting to be pretty ridiculous.....
I agree. But this last video above shows you my own frustrations. The governor is talking about infections and there are not as many deaths, when that is not the issue. The issue involves what he is not talking about. How many of those infections are asymptomatic that we know nothing about, that can spread to other areas, states, and people, while trying to criticize others? That is the point of this OP.

Other countries who set politics to the side, preserved some semblance of their economy by locking everyone down and flattened their curves. It's the only way we are going to get to door number #3, and we all know it. But, as the OP points out, we are still in denial, and blaming Cuomo was the distraction, while the one's who initially blamed him, are now seeing accelerated numbers of cases in their own states. Dead or not.

And by the way, The Democrat state of California is also seeing rises.

Bottom line, since the federal government doesn't want to get involved, it's up to all governors to lock down for as long as it takes. Because, if we don't, there won't be any economy to go back to anyway.
like i was saying.....the people are getting worried about their welfare and many are willing to take their chances because like everyone else...they need money to survive....what can you do?....that 1200 bucks is long gone....
 
He wasn't sending them there to kill them.
The legal term is criminal indifference

because the medicos knew that the elderly were most likely to die from the chinese disease

i cant tell you why cuomo condemned them die

but it was not for lack of bed space which trump made sure NY had plenty of
If you are out of hospital beds, should they have sent them to your house then?

"Why Cuomo condemned them to die" is not only stupid, it's a lie. You make shit up, and you are a coward who cannot make any excuses for those who have worse records. You failed to deliver. Move along. You cant debate this OP.
They were never out of hospital beds, you lying sack of shit.

Laying off the temps they hired because they didn't need them.
 
there was no good reason for cuomo to send wuflu carriers into nursing homes except to kill as many elderly people as possible
Cuomo was just on Meet the Press, and cited the statistics from the New York Times, that the nursing home deaths as a percentage of total fatalities, New York has less than half the national average, and ranks 46th in the nation. Meaning 45 other states did worse in nursing home deaths as a percentage of their totals.
 
1), not enough beds
If there are no ICU beds at the nursing home there is no good reason to send known china disease carriers there except to infect and kill as many old people as possible
That might make sense to a world full of delusional crazy people, but you're addressing me boss. Tell that to some of these Trump toads who will eat it up like bait on a hook, even though, I'm pretty sure they won't know what the fuck your are talking about either.
I have no idea what you are saying

there was no good reason for cuomo to send wuflu carriers into nursing homes except to kill as many elderly people as possible
Those people in nursing homes, were already in nursing homes. It is you who doesn't know what you are talking about.


Actually nursing home deaths in New York were mostly from infected staff. Who didn't know they were infected, or went to work anyway. Those transferred in were kept in isolation. In short it was spread by people they didn't know were infected, not from those that they knew were.
 
there was no good reason for cuomo to send wuflu carriers into nursing homes except to kill as many elderly people as possible
Cuomo was just on Meet
the Press, and cited the statistics from the New York Times, that the nursing home deaths as a percentage of total fatalities, New York has less than half the national average, and ranks 46th in the nation. Meaning 45 other states did worse in nursing home deaths as a percentage of their totals.

In terms of percentages it appears he is correct. In terms of absolute numbers, he's still at the top of the list.

That and just about every other categoy has his state is is responsible for 1/4 of total deaths in the U.S.

He should not be taking any credit for any numbers anywhere.
 
No, dickhead....a spike in cases does not mean anything if they are mostly low risk.

Maybe you know nothing about infectious disease, but even if they don't suffer any ill effects, they spread the disease as if they were.

The younger age group can spread it to their friends, and most dangerously to their jobs, and to their families. This infecting a group that suffers complications and risk of death.
 
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1), not enough beds
If there are no ICU beds at the nursing home there is no good reason to send known china disease carriers there except to infect and kill as many old people as possible
That might make sense to a world full of delusional crazy people, but you're addressing me boss. Tell that to some of these Trump toads who will eat it up like bait on a hook, even though, I'm pretty sure they won't know what the fuck your are talking about either.
I have no idea what you are saying

there was no good reason for cuomo to send wuflu carriers into nursing homes except to kill as many elderly people as possible
Those people in nursing homes, were already in nursing homes. It is you who doesn't know what you are talking about.


Actually nursing home deaths in New York were mostly from infected staff. Who didn't know they were infected, or went to work anyway. Those transferred in were kept in isolation. In short it was spread by people they didn't know were infected, not from those that they knew were.
And that was probably the case. But, the Right made it a convenient argument out of thin air to put all the blame on Cuomo.
 
No, dickhead....a spike in cases does not mean anything if they are mostly low risk.

Maybe you know nothing about infectious disease, but even if they don't suffer any ill effects, they spread the disease as if they were.

The younger age group can spread it to their friends, and most dangerously to their jobs, and to their families. This infecting a group that suffers complications and risk of death.

We've been down this road 100 time.

We are doing a much better job of protecting the vulnerable.

Your whole cloth argument has not panned out.
 
1), not enough beds
If there are no ICU beds at the nursing home there is no good reason to send known china disease carriers there except to infect and kill as many old people as possible
That might make sense to a world full of delusional crazy people, but you're addressing me boss. Tell that to some of these Trump toads who will eat it up like bait on a hook, even though, I'm pretty sure they won't know what the fuck your are talking about either.
I have no idea what you are saying

there was no good reason for cuomo to send wuflu carriers into nursing homes except to kill as many elderly people as possible
Those people in nursing homes, were already in nursing homes. It is you who doesn't know what you are talking about.


Actually nursing home deaths in New York were mostly from infected staff. Who didn't know they were infected, or went to work anyway. Those transferred in were kept in isolation. In short it was spread by people they didn't know were infected, not from those that they knew were.
And that was probably the case. But, the Right made it a convenient argument out of thin air to put all the blame on Cuomo.

At one point, New York was responsible for 1/7th of deaths GLOBALLY.

The Cuomovirus really screwed him.
 
there was no good reason for cuomo to send wuflu carriers into nursing homes except to kill as many elderly people as possible
Cuomo was just on Meet
the Press, and cited the statistics from the New York Times, that the nursing home deaths as a percentage of total fatalities, New York has less than half the national average, and ranks 46th in the nation. Meaning 45 other states did worse in nursing home deaths as a percentage of their totals.

In terms of percentages it appears he is correct. In terms of absolute numbers, he's still at the top of the list.

That and just about every other categoy has his state is is responsible for 1/4 of total deaths in the U.S.

He should not be taking any credit for any numbers anywhere.
No, but since Trump had no ban on Europe at the time, it is easy to see why infections were everywhere in New York, and especially the city. So, responsible? No! Took the biggest hit for infections? Yes!
 

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