Replace the ACA with single payer

[RDD_1210]

Replace the ACA with single payer the rest of the civilized world enjoys. Lets not be left out in the cold!!!!

-It would be cheaper
-Moral

Only rich can afford what the ryans of this world want. That is wrong.

I already have good insurance, I always have. I see no need to change things now when they seem to be working just fine.

I got mine...fuck y'all. You're a true Patriot.

 

[sartre play]

There are no perfect systems any place in the world. working towards the best possible system that works for the most people possible. you will never make every one happy.

 

[Silhouette]

The VA, Medicaid & Medicare are all single payer and all utter disasters.

Yeah, let's do more!

They are underfunded. And, they're not disasters. They were busted. That means oversight works. In for-profit healthcare, nobody is watching the dirty deeds that result in elderly people being offed in a thousand different untraceable ways by the bottom-line policies within.

Funding single-payer with % register taxes on sales each day of sugars, tobacco & booze products will be the people actually needing the care, paying for it. Small co-pay at service, to discourage system overuse. Auditing and reform of ACTUAL medical costs instead of the current racket hospitals & for-profit are doing like a Vegas numbers-game. Malpractice reform; but still accountability of MDs to not indulge in negligence or worse..

The fact that you even heard about problems with the VA, Medicaid & Medicare means the system is working. I can guarantee you that silence in for-profit human health is deadly: Human Health + For Profit (Privatized Healthcare) = Liability Murder (A Case Discussion)

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Replace the ACA with single payer the rest of the civilized world enjoys. Lets not be left out in the cold!!!!

-It would be cheaper
-Moral

Only rich can afford what the ryans of this world want. That is wrong.

I already have good insurance, I always have. I see no need to change things now when they seem to be working just fine.

I got mine...fuck y'all. You're a true Patriot.

I fail to see where not wanting to support another family along with mine says anything about patriotism, in fact, I would think that by supporting myself and not having to rely on others it shows a great deal more contribution to this country than being a mooch.
There is however, no law that would prohibit you from buying health insurance for any family or families you choose to do so for.

 

[Flash]

The VA, Medicaid & Medicare are all single payer and all utter disasters.

Yeah, let's do more!

They are underfunded. And, they're not disasters. They were busted. That means oversight works. In for-profit healthcare, nobody is watching the dirty deeds that result in elderly people being offed in a thousand different untraceable ways by the bottom-line policies within.

Funding single-payer with % register taxes on sales each day of sugars, tobacco & booze products will be the people actually needing the care, paying for it. Small co-pay at service, to discourage system overuse. Auditing and reform of ACTUAL medical costs instead of the current racket hospitals & for-profit are doing like a Vegas numbers-game. Malpractice reform; but still accountability of MDs to not indulge in negligence or worse..

The fact that you even heard about problems with the VA, Medicaid & Medicare means the system is working. I can guarantee you that silence in for-profit human health is deadly: Human Health + For Profit (Privatized Healthcare) = Liability Murder (A Case Discussion)

I will trust the free market and the forces of competition over some asshole bureaucrat (whose boss is a corrupt politician elected by special interest groups) any day.

You say the VA is not funded adequately but the filthy ass government pours billions into the system and the veterans get shitty care. The reason is that typical for any government operation there is not accountability and nobody really gives a shit whether you get the care or not. After all they get the same amount of pay whether you are a satisfied customer or not.

Government always sucks. Government run health care really sucks.

 

[Timmy]

How many Americans could actually afford insurance on their own? A family plan is at least $1000 a month .

Health care is a necessity . Righties act like the industry is regular supply demand widgets .

Unless you'd rather us let people die in the streets ?

My family currently pays $950 per month.

Before ACA, my family paid $150... for a family of 12... you're out of your damn mind.

It's not a necessity, and if it were, competition would keep the prices significantly lower than this. That's how supply, demand, and competition work. You lefttards have turned the Healthcare industry into a government monopoly. Now Healthcare is significantly more expensive, significantly harder to get, and significantly harder to actually use.

If people die in the streets, they deserve it. There are programs that help people write resume's, and get them interviews on their behalf, as well as programs for homeless people who need food. Before Socialist policies were put in place, people could easily get a job. Of course, if you tax employers 60% of earnings, and tax them again per employee, I imagine hiring becomes a last resort.

And you get no subsidy?

What RED state sold that $150 scam policy? Now that 950 policy is what it actually costs and is GUARANTEED. Now to get competition and going after costs really going. Or maybe Trump will figure out to Nazify the system quickly with single payer lol...

It's not a scam policy if it actually works. My youngest brother was born prematurely and needed absurd amounts of expensive surgery and treatments in order to survive and live a normal life, and our insurance covered more than half of the cost, as well as our dental bills. We're lucky this happened before the ACA was implemented or he'd have likely died.

Half ain't great. How long ago?

I just confirmed with my mother, they paid "Roughly 95%", the company was Aetna. The only things they didn't cover amounted to a few thousand, but they did cover surgeries amounting to millions of dollars, like open heart surgery. My youngest brothers, who are twins, were "Million dollar babies".

So your pre Obamacare plan was over $1000. Not $150.

 

[francoHFW]

How many Americans could actually afford insurance on their own? A family plan is at least $1000 a month .

Health care is a necessity . Righties act like the industry is regular supply demand widgets .

Unless you'd rather us let people die in the streets ?

My family currently pays $950 per month.

Before ACA, my family paid $150... for a family of 12... you're out of your damn mind.

It's not a necessity, and if it were, competition would keep the prices significantly lower than this. That's how supply, demand, and competition work. You lefttards have turned the Healthcare industry into a government monopoly. Now Healthcare is significantly more expensive, significantly harder to get, and significantly harder to actually use.

If people die in the streets, they deserve it. There are programs that help people write resume's, and get them interviews on their behalf, as well as programs for homeless people who need food. Before Socialist policies were put in place, people could easily get a job. Of course, if you tax employers 60% of earnings, and tax them again per employee, I imagine hiring becomes a last resort.

And you get no subsidy?

What RED state sold that $150 scam policy? Now that 950 policy is what it actually costs and is GUARANTEED. Now to get competition and going after costs really going. Or maybe Trump will figure out to Nazify the system quickly with single payer lol...

It's not a scam policy if it actually works. My youngest brother was born prematurely and needed absurd amounts of expensive surgery and treatments in order to survive and live a normal life, and our insurance covered more than half of the cost, as well as our dental bills. We're lucky this happened before the ACA was implemented or he'd have likely died.

Half ain't great. How long ago?

I just confirmed with my mother, they paid "Roughly 95%", the company was Aetna. The only things they didn't cover amounted to a few thousand, but they did cover surgeries amounting to millions of dollars, like open heart surgery. My youngest brothers, who are twins, were "Million dollar babies".

Those were the good old days...Time to use ACA to go after today's ridiculous costs. Go Trump Party!

 

[francoHFW]

Yes obviously increasing competition lowers prices in general, but that doesn't mean the increase in competition would be even nearly enough to make healthcare more affordable for the poor. Where is the viability in even trying this strategy for the industry? Christ if a insurance company wanted to, they could drastically lower their prices to make their care more affordable but they don't do they? It's because they already make a killing off of the prices they have now.

If a price is lowered, it's obviously more affordable to everyone. Businesses exist to make the owner money. If they don't make money, there's no reason for that business to exist. Naturally, if someone has literally no money, they can't afford anything. That's what charity is for, and programs to get them interviews. If they can't pull themselves up in a capitalist system, it's their own fault.

Again, they exist to make money, hence everything having a price. It's called making a living.

Lol none of this shallow reasoning of yours changes the fact that healthcare prices haven't been affordable for the poor for decades.

If you have no money, nothing is affordable. By your logic, everything should be 'free', which is Socialism, which was implemented by the USSR, which destroyed their Nation for 90 years and caused their economy to collapse. If you want everything affordable for those who have no money, move to Venezuela. People who can't make it on their own due to lack of motivation and laziness don't deserve to have things paid for by others for them, and therefor don't NEED to be able to afford anything. You Liberals keep complaining that we're the only Nation that doesn't do this, that, or the other thing. Great, if you don't like an equal opportunity Nation where you have to take care of yourself, move somewhere else. We don't need nor want you here. Move to Cuba. Move to Venezuela. Move to a Socialist paradise where all of your policies have already destroyed their economy instead of destroying ours.

That's communism, dupe. Socialism is always democratic, just fair capitalism like every modern country, even us with ACA- once it's fixed. "We're all socialists now!" Finland PM when ACA was passed...

Communism has never been implemented in the history of the world. As defined in the Communist Manifesto, Communism is a system in which everyone is equal in every way, and as such, there is no currency, there is no government, and there are no Social Classes. Every Nation in the history of the world has had one or more of those components, and therefor cannot be defined as Communist. HOWEVER, their systems perfectly match the components needed to be Socialist; Social ownership of equity and the means of production. I'd also like to point out that Socialism is NOT required by definition to be Democratic, and in fact, the most prominent examples weren't. NOWHERE is Socialism EVER defined as needing "Democracy" as a component, EVER.

The definitions of communism and socialism have changed in the last 150 years. Socialism is always democratic and basically fair capitalism.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

My family currently pays $950 per month.

Before ACA, my family paid $150... for a family of 12... you're out of your damn mind.

It's not a necessity, and if it were, competition would keep the prices significantly lower than this. That's how supply, demand, and competition work. You lefttards have turned the Healthcare industry into a government monopoly. Now Healthcare is significantly more expensive, significantly harder to get, and significantly harder to actually use.

If people die in the streets, they deserve it. There are programs that help people write resume's, and get them interviews on their behalf, as well as programs for homeless people who need food. Before Socialist policies were put in place, people could easily get a job. Of course, if you tax employers 60% of earnings, and tax them again per employee, I imagine hiring becomes a last resort.

And you get no subsidy?

What RED state sold that $150 scam policy? Now that 950 policy is what it actually costs and is GUARANTEED. Now to get competition and going after costs really going. Or maybe Trump will figure out to Nazify the system quickly with single payer lol...

It's not a scam policy if it actually works. My youngest brother was born prematurely and needed absurd amounts of expensive surgery and treatments in order to survive and live a normal life, and our insurance covered more than half of the cost, as well as our dental bills. We're lucky this happened before the ACA was implemented or he'd have likely died.

Half ain't great. How long ago?

I just confirmed with my mother, they paid "Roughly 95%", the company was Aetna. The only things they didn't cover amounted to a few thousand, but they did cover surgeries amounting to millions of dollars, like open heart surgery. My youngest brothers, who are twins, were "Million dollar babies".

So your pre Obamacare plan was over $1000. Not $150.

Prove it. Post proof that you know my family's bill better than me. Do it.

My family paid $150 per month. You will either prove your statement or you'll go back to the Flame Zone where brain dead Liberals belong.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

If a price is lowered, it's obviously more affordable to everyone. Businesses exist to make the owner money. If they don't make money, there's no reason for that business to exist. Naturally, if someone has literally no money, they can't afford anything. That's what charity is for, and programs to get them interviews. If they can't pull themselves up in a capitalist system, it's their own fault.

Again, they exist to make money, hence everything having a price. It's called making a living.

Lol none of this shallow reasoning of yours changes the fact that healthcare prices haven't been affordable for the poor for decades.

If you have no money, nothing is affordable. By your logic, everything should be 'free', which is Socialism, which was implemented by the USSR, which destroyed their Nation for 90 years and caused their economy to collapse. If you want everything affordable for those who have no money, move to Venezuela. People who can't make it on their own due to lack of motivation and laziness don't deserve to have things paid for by others for them, and therefor don't NEED to be able to afford anything. You Liberals keep complaining that we're the only Nation that doesn't do this, that, or the other thing. Great, if you don't like an equal opportunity Nation where you have to take care of yourself, move somewhere else. We don't need nor want you here. Move to Cuba. Move to Venezuela. Move to a Socialist paradise where all of your policies have already destroyed their economy instead of destroying ours.

That's communism, dupe. Socialism is always democratic, just fair capitalism like every modern country, even us with ACA- once it's fixed. "We're all socialists now!" Finland PM when ACA was passed...

Communism has never been implemented in the history of the world. As defined in the Communist Manifesto, Communism is a system in which everyone is equal in every way, and as such, there is no currency, there is no government, and there are no Social Classes. Every Nation in the history of the world has had one or more of those components, and therefor cannot be defined as Communist. HOWEVER, their systems perfectly match the components needed to be Socialist; Social ownership of equity and the means of production. I'd also like to point out that Socialism is NOT required by definition to be Democratic, and in fact, the most prominent examples weren't. NOWHERE is Socialism EVER defined as needing "Democracy" as a component, EVER.

The definitions of communism and socialism have changed in the last 150 years. Socialism is always democratic and basically fair capitalism.

In other words, you have nothing to back up your assertion, and you're just going to keep repeating yourself until everyone gets sick of your baseless argument. The definition never changed, Socialists called it Communism to distance themselves from their failures.

 

[RDD_1210]

Replace the ACA with single payer the rest of the civilized world enjoys. Lets not be left out in the cold!!!!

-It would be cheaper
-Moral

Only rich can afford what the ryans of this world want. That is wrong.

I already have good insurance, I always have. I see no need to change things now when they seem to be working just fine.

I got mine...fuck y'all. You're a true Patriot.

I fail to see where not wanting to support another family along with mine says anything about patriotism, in fact, I would think that by supporting myself and not having to rely on others it shows a great deal more contribution to this country than being a mooch.
There is however, no law that would prohibit you from buying health insurance for any family or families you choose to do so for.

I know this probably bothers you, but "We the people...."

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Replace the ACA with single payer the rest of the civilized world enjoys. Lets not be left out in the cold!!!!

-It would be cheaper
-Moral

Only rich can afford what the ryans of this world want. That is wrong.

I already have good insurance, I always have. I see no need to change things now when they seem to be working just fine.

I got mine...fuck y'all. You're a true Patriot.

I fail to see where not wanting to support another family along with mine says anything about patriotism, in fact, I would think that by supporting myself and not having to rely on others it shows a great deal more contribution to this country than being a mooch.
There is however, no law that would prohibit you from buying health insurance for any family or families you choose to do so for.

I know this probably bothers you, but "We the people...."

I know this probably bothers you but, WE the people means that we ALL share in building the country. Not some of us provide everything for everyone that too lazy to work and would prefer to be a drain on society.
No where does anything in the constitution say I need to cover all the expenses of some piece of low life shit that thinks they have a right to dig in other peoples pockets while they themselves do nothing.
Sorry to sound cold but the sooner that class of people all die off from starvation or disease, the sooner this country can start to advance. They hold us back.
Instead of complaining about those that do contribute, how about you figure out how to get these social leeches off their ass and have them support themselves.

 

[francoHFW]

And you get no subsidy?

What RED state sold that $150 scam policy? Now that 950 policy is what it actually costs and is GUARANTEED. Now to get competition and going after costs really going. Or maybe Trump will figure out to Nazify the system quickly with single payer lol...

It's not a scam policy if it actually works. My youngest brother was born prematurely and needed absurd amounts of expensive surgery and treatments in order to survive and live a normal life, and our insurance covered more than half of the cost, as well as our dental bills. We're lucky this happened before the ACA was implemented or he'd have likely died.

Half ain't great. How long ago?

I just confirmed with my mother, they paid "Roughly 95%", the company was Aetna. The only things they didn't cover amounted to a few thousand, but they did cover surgeries amounting to millions of dollars, like open heart surgery. My youngest brothers, who are twins, were "Million dollar babies".

So your pre Obamacare plan was over $1000. Not $150.

Prove it. Post proof that you know my family's bill better than me. Do it.

My family paid $150 per month. You will either prove your statement or you'll go back to the Flame Zone where brain dead Liberals belong.

Okay stop pretending the private sector is the key to any program'a success. The for profit motive fails at programs meant for the population at large. None of this bullshit you're saying changes the fact that healthcare has always been unaffordable to the poor and growing population in the middle class. Healthcare costs have only gone up prior to ObamaCare. These corporations make a killing off necessary healthcare being charged at ridiculous rates. What exactly is going to bring these costs down if there is very little government interference.

The Private Sector is the key to everything except infrastructure, and possibly that, too. True Capitalism regulates itself, advances faster, generates constant jobs and constant economic growth, and higher wages. Competition causes business to have to have the best prices, work conditions, payment, and product. There's literally no way for the government to do anything better than the Private Sector, and it has failed every time it has tried.

As I pointed out earlier in the thread, my family's Healthcare went from $150 to $950. Your argument is invalid.

True unregulated capitalism is a success huh? So the lack of proper regulation on Wall Street is not the reason for Great Recession? And no, your anecdotal story doesn't mean jack shit if, statistically, healthcare costs have been rising for decades. If you let corporations do whatever the fuck they want, where is the motive for them to lower their costs if they are already making a killing off necessary treatments like cancer treatment or prescriptions costs?

Yes, it is a success. The recession was a result of the government being allowed to run amok and expand its powers far beyond what they should be, much like the Great Depression.

Another competing business having lower costs and a better product stealing all of their customers? What we had before ACA was not only better, but wasn't actual capitalism due to government regulations. Competition beyond state lines would have been an unregulated capitalist healthcare system, and would have results in people getting the lowest cost and best product, because that's how capitalism works.

Even if costs were rising before ACA, ACA caused them to rise significantly faster, and has given us a far, far worse product.

Both the depressions happened after 8 years of GOP in power and deregulated insanity and greed, ignorant dupe. "a result of the government being allowed to run amok and expand its powers far beyond what they should be" ? WTH are you talking about? LOL

Actually, the Great Depression was caused by FDR, who re-implemented a lot of Woodrow Wilson's failed policies. He turned a mild recession into a Great Depression by attacking businesses with the full force unconstitutional powers the president should never have had. Including but not limited to compulsory unionism, locking prices high, minimum wage laws, and basically taking full control of private industry with the NIRA. His policies drastically increased the cost of hiring employees and the cost of goods and services, which actually promoted monopolizing businesses.

Read something- You're out of your tiny brainwashed mind. When FDR became president, it was the height of the depression, over 3 years since the crash....

 

[Silhouette]

The VA, Medicaid & Medicare are all single payer and all utter disasters.

Yeah, let's do more!

They are underfunded. And, they're not disasters. They were busted. That means oversight works. In for-profit healthcare, nobody is watching the dirty deeds that result in elderly people being offed in a thousand different untraceable ways by the bottom-line policies within.

Funding single-payer with % register taxes on sales each day of sugars, tobacco & booze products will be the people actually needing the care, paying for it. Small co-pay at service, to discourage system overuse. Auditing and reform of ACTUAL medical costs instead of the current racket hospitals & for-profit are doing like a Vegas numbers-game. Malpractice reform; but still accountability of MDs to not indulge in negligence or worse..

The fact that you even heard about problems with the VA, Medicaid & Medicare means the system is working. I can guarantee you that silence in for-profit human health is deadly: Human Health + For Profit (Privatized Healthcare) = Liability Murder (A Case Discussion)

I will trust the free market and the forces of competition over some asshole bureaucrat (whose boss is a corrupt politician elected by special interest groups) any day.

Yes, I trusted the free market and they murdered my family member. Have funs with dems shits.. We fund military, police & fire protection with tax money. They're socialized human life protectors and you don't seem to have a problem with them. I'd prefer public oversight and direct auditing of entities charged with life and death. You'd like to see profit enter that equation. That's a deadly wish my friend.

 

[RDD_1210]

Replace the ACA with single payer the rest of the civilized world enjoys. Lets not be left out in the cold!!!!

-It would be cheaper
-Moral

Only rich can afford what the ryans of this world want. That is wrong.

I already have good insurance, I always have. I see no need to change things now when they seem to be working just fine.

I got mine...fuck y'all. You're a true Patriot.

I fail to see where not wanting to support another family along with mine says anything about patriotism, in fact, I would think that by supporting myself and not having to rely on others it shows a great deal more contribution to this country than being a mooch.
There is however, no law that would prohibit you from buying health insurance for any family or families you choose to do so for.

I know this probably bothers you, but "We the people...."

I know this probably bothers you but, WE the people means that we ALL share in building the country. Not some of us provide everything for everyone that too lazy to work and would prefer to be a drain on society.
No where does anything in the constitution say I need to cover all the expenses of some piece of low life shit that thinks they have a right to dig in other peoples pockets while they themselves do nothing.
Sorry to sound cold but the sooner that class of people all die off from starvation or disease, the sooner this country can start to advance. They hold us back.
Instead of complaining about those that do contribute, how about you figure out how to get these social leeches off their ass and have them support themselves.

You said "I have good insurance, I see no reason to change things". But keep trying to change the topic now that you've outed yourself for the asshole you are.

 

[there4eyeM]

Replace the ACA with single payer the rest of the civilized world enjoys. Lets not be left out in the cold!!!!

-It would be cheaper
-Moral

Only rich can afford what the ryans of this world want. That is wrong.

I already have good insurance, I always have. I see no need to change things now when they seem to be working just fine.

I got mine...fuck y'all. You're a true Patriot.

Perhaps the poster just prefers single 'prayer'.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

I already have good insurance, I always have. I see no need to change things now when they seem to be working just fine.

I got mine...fuck y'all. You're a true Patriot.

I fail to see where not wanting to support another family along with mine says anything about patriotism, in fact, I would think that by supporting myself and not having to rely on others it shows a great deal more contribution to this country than being a mooch.
There is however, no law that would prohibit you from buying health insurance for any family or families you choose to do so for.

I know this probably bothers you, but "We the people...."

I know this probably bothers you but, WE the people means that we ALL share in building the country. Not some of us provide everything for everyone that too lazy to work and would prefer to be a drain on society.
No where does anything in the constitution say I need to cover all the expenses of some piece of low life shit that thinks they have a right to dig in other peoples pockets while they themselves do nothing.
Sorry to sound cold but the sooner that class of people all die off from starvation or disease, the sooner this country can start to advance. They hold us back.
Instead of complaining about those that do contribute, how about you figure out how to get these social leeches off their ass and have them support themselves.

You said "I have good insurance, I see no reason to change things". But keep trying to change the topic now that you've outed yourself for the asshole you are.

I was responding to your post, You are the one that changed the topic and tried to make it look as if the preamble suggested we cover the cost for the lazy,
However considering you are having a hard time keeping up with what you yourself are posting, I really see no reason to expect you to be able to keep up with others.
as far as me being an asshole? I dont agree, An asshole is someone that expects others to pay for them while they give noting of value in return. An asshole is not somebody that supports themselves without demanding that others suppliment his/her lifestyle.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Replace the ACA with single payer the rest of the civilized world enjoys. Lets not be left out in the cold!!!!

-It would be cheaper
-Moral

Only rich can afford what the ryans of this world want. That is wrong.

I already have good insurance, I always have. I see no need to change things now when they seem to be working just fine.

I got mine...fuck y'all. You're a true Patriot.

Perhaps the poster just prefers single 'prayer'.

I dont care what you prefer as long as I dont have to pay for it and I can continue on with the excellent coverage that I have been providing my family without assistance since I started working.

 

[kaz]

Cost rises have been lower since? Yet it's still increasing rapidly.

I mean, if you force people to buy things, I imagine most people would buy that thing. Though, let's be fair, it wasn't for workers, but for all those people who are being encouraged to stay poor because the Democrats are promising to take care of them, so they can be lazy slobs.

Funny you're calling others brainwashed while repeating what the Establishment has been telling you to say. Lack of self-awareness is a staple of Liberal whackjobs.

How many Americans could actually afford insurance on their own? A family plan is at least $1000 a month .

Health care is a necessity . Righties act like the industry is regular supply demand widgets .

Unless you'd rather us let people die in the streets ?

My family currently pays $950 per month.

Before ACA, my family paid $150... for a family of 12... you're out of your damn mind.

It's not a necessity, and if it were, competition would keep the prices significantly lower than this. That's how supply, demand, and competition work. You lefttards have turned the Healthcare industry into a government monopoly. Now Healthcare is significantly more expensive, significantly harder to get, and significantly harder to actually use.

If people die in the streets, they deserve it. There are programs that help people write resume's, and get them interviews on their behalf, as well as programs for homeless people who need food. Before Socialist policies were put in place, people could easily get a job. Of course, if you tax employers 60% of earnings, and tax them again per employee, I imagine hiring becomes a last resort.

And you get no subsidy?

What RED state sold that $150 scam policy? Now that 950 policy is what it actually costs and is GUARANTEED. Now to get competition and going after costs really going. Or maybe Trump will figure out to Nazify the system quickly with single payer lol...

It's not a scam policy if it actually works. My youngest brother was born prematurely and needed absurd amounts of expensive surgery and treatments in order to survive and live a normal life, and our insurance covered more than half of the cost, as well as our dental bills. We're lucky this happened before the ACA was implemented or he'd have likely died.

Why would he have died under the ACA?

Because the ACA is essentially Medicare. There are like three cut rate doctors and one overfilled hospital in half a State that takes it. It's shitty insurance

 

[Flash]

The VA, Medicaid & Medicare are all single payer and all utter disasters.

Yeah, let's do more!

They are underfunded. And, they're not disasters. They were busted. That means oversight works. In for-profit healthcare, nobody is watching the dirty deeds that result in elderly people being offed in a thousand different untraceable ways by the bottom-line policies within.

Funding single-payer with % register taxes on sales each day of sugars, tobacco & booze products will be the people actually needing the care, paying for it. Small co-pay at service, to discourage system overuse. Auditing and reform of ACTUAL medical costs instead of the current racket hospitals & for-profit are doing like a Vegas numbers-game. Malpractice reform; but still accountability of MDs to not indulge in negligence or worse..

The fact that you even heard about problems with the VA, Medicaid & Medicare means the system is working. I can guarantee you that silence in for-profit human health is deadly: Human Health + For Profit (Privatized Healthcare) = Liability Murder (A Case Discussion)

I will trust the free market and the forces of competition over some asshole bureaucrat (whose boss is a corrupt politician elected by special interest groups) any day.

Yes, I trusted the free market and they murdered my family member. Have funs with dems shits.. We fund military, police & fire protection with tax money. They're socialized human life protectors and you don't seem to have a problem with them. I'd prefer public oversight and direct auditing of entities charged with life and death. You'd like to see profit enter that equation. That's a deadly wish my friend.

The Libtard solution for every government failure is always to always throw more money at it. The VA sucks because it is run by bureaucrats who don't really give a damn if you are treated or not and whose bosses are corrupt and elected by special interest groups who also really don't give a damn. No amount of additional money is going to fix that.

The VA is marginal at best and a disaster for many people at worse.

I am a veteran and I needed a procedure a few years ago. The VA would have treated me at no cost.

Instead of going to the VA I chose to spend the $2K insurance deductible and have it done privately. I got the procedure done in less time than it would have taken me to get my first appointment with a doctor and have the procedure scheduled.

There were three private facilities in my area that had the equipment to do the procedure and they were all in competition to get my business. I got excellent high quality service. If I had waited for the damn VA It would have taken me over a year to get the same thing done that I got within two months.

Government always sucks. It is incompetent, inefficient, non caring and subject to the political whims of the day. Anybody would be an idiot to trust something as important as health care to some friggin government bureaucrat.

We don't need government run heath care in this country. What we need is for the stupid government to get out of the health care business so that the free market and competition can provide the best service at the lowest possible cost. Moon Bats never seem to understand the power of a free market, do they?