Republicans have lost the black vote forever?

[Harry Dresden]

The Republicans idea that blacks are simpleminded, childlike creatures who want "stuff" and are easily led is one sure fire way to attract them to join your party.

Of the 254 counties where food stamp use doubled, 213 voted for Mitt Romney. Clearly, the strategy worked on whites. Kind of. Or did it.

Did those whites just vote for a guy who wanted to take away their food stamps, and who is a pioneer of outsourcing, which is why many of them don't even have jobs.

Hmm, I think I know who are the simpleminded, childlike creatures who want "stuff" and are easily led.

well since you never question your party i think you fall into that category yourself ....

So far, there is nothing the Democrats have done that even comes close to all the fiascoes and debacles and grand failures of the Republican Party.
Clearly, Republicans know what their party did when they treated President Bush like a pariah at the last GOP convention. The one where Republicans threw peanuts at a black CNN camera woman and said, "This is how we feed the animals". Remember that convention? It was the very last one.

and that had what to do with what i said?.....nice dance though.....Polka?....

 

[Harry Dresden]

I hear ya, but i'm more optimistic. As African Americans grow better educated & informed, they'll begin to better understand history. The Republican Party was at the forefront of civil rights for African Americans. They were doing it long before the Democratic Party did. The Democratic Party has been a Johnny-Come-Lately on it.

yea but look at some of the "righties" here and how they talk about non-whites....even if they agree with their policies,why the hell would they want to stand with a party that has a lot of people who are fucking bigots among them and have nothing but contempt for non-whites?....myself i cant see why any minority would want to have anything to do with either party.....

That's cuz you're not bright. The black leaders in the Democratic Party are themselves black.

The leaders in the GOP are crazy ass Teanuts.

i belong to no party,and you follow the Democrats without question.....and im not too bright?.... hold on a second..........

 

[Harry Dresden]

I think the alliance with black voters and the Democratic Party was cemented pretty firmly in the 60s and 70s.

It will take quite a bit for the GOP to break that stranglehold imho.

I don't see Republicans doing a particularly good job of reversing that trend either right now.
A neo-confederate is currently leading the large pack of GOP POTUS hopefuls right now.

Unfortunately, I suspect many in the GOP think Lincoln was a confederate. You can't get a straight answer about that right here at the USMB. They think the Republicans who ended slavery a couple of hundred years ago are the same who lead the GOP today. They clearly aren't.

Why do you have to lie all of the time deanie?

It's pretty damned pathetic.

notice how he doesnt mention how so many lefties here also think the Liberal of today is like the Liberal of yesteryear?.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

And the key word is were. Unfortunately Republicans decided they had more to gain by turning southern states red than addressing concerns of black voters.

Well maybe, but what did the Ds do to capture the blacks?

Seems to me they decided to buy their votes with government handouts...

Most egregious....yes?

You are making the mistake of believing the Democratic party is somehow secretly led by unknown shadowy figures hidden in the background.

The truth is, the Democratic Party is a coalition party of which blacks are integral to the well being of the party itself.

But do me a favor. Tell me why Republicans and Red States get more "hand outs" than anyone and why is that OK.

is that what they told you Dean?.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

In my humble opinion, African Americans have been pretty stupid permanently casting their vote for one Party. They've removed all possibilities of leverage and self-improvement. They've been pitifully duped. Make no mistake about it, they will be left behind. It's all about catering to Hispanics now. They will be shoved down the ladder economically. Hispanics are climbing right over them. This Democrat-orchestrated immigration debacle is gonna hurt them the most. They shouldn't have fallen for that 'Party before Country' nonsense. They're gonna pay for that misguided blunder.

As opposed the Republican Party. 150 years of conservative policies and they all led to the disastrous Bush administration.

Of the 254 counties that doubled food stamps from 2007 to 2011, 213 of them voted for Mitt Romney. Republicans states, for the most part, live off government. They are educational, economic and environmental disasters. With lousy culture. And their elected officials go to states like California and New York looking for skilled workers.

Sadly, they are so pathetic, they actually believe they are the model of what the rest of the country should be like. Well, I don't want to be like "failures". That's why I'm a Democrat.

yea we can see the flag in your ass.....

 

[Flopper]

I hear ya, but i'm more optimistic. As African Americans grow better educated & informed, they'll begin to better understand history. The Republican Party was at the forefront of civil rights for African Americans. They were doing it long before the Democratic Party did. The Democratic Party has been a Johnny-Come-Lately on it.

And the key word is were. Unfortunately Republicans decided they had more to gain by turning southern states red than addressing concerns of black voters.

Well maybe, but what did the Ds do to capture the blacks?

Seems to me they decided to buy their votes with government handouts...

Most egregious....yes?

The Republicans lost the black vote not because they opposed integration but because the Democratic presidents, Kennedy and Johnson championed the fight for integration, sending legislation to Congress such as the Civil Rights Act and Voter's Act, and sending federal Marshals into the South to enforce the law.

Meanwhile the 1960 Republican candidate for President, Barry Goldwater was voting against the Civil Rights Bill and declaring he would oppose the Voting Rights Bill. Outspoken conservatives such as William H. Buckley Jr. supported white southern segregation with claims that came close to endorsing white supremacy in the South. And when Republicans jumped on the states right bandwagon which was the rallying cry of southern segregationist, Republicans lost the black vote just as Democrats lost the white southern vote.

The Johnson social welfare bills such as Medicare, the Equal Opportunity Act, Head Start benefited not just blacks but people of all races. I'm sure this legislation attracted black voters to the democratic party just as it attracted poor people of all races but even without it, the Republican party had lost the black vote.

 

[jasonnfree]

yea Republicans are so much better.....have you read any posts by righties like Katz?....yea those Blacks and other Minorities get treated with so much respect....

African Americans and Unions should have been at the forefront of opposing this Democrat-orchestrated mess. They had the most to lose. African Americans will now be booted to the bottom of the ladder, while Hispanics climb right over them. And this massive influx of Slave Labor is gonna kill Unions off once and for all. People should reconsider that 'Party before Country' mentality. It often forces one to support agendas that are not in their best interests.

why anyone would say they belong to either party is beyond me.....

I do it because I'm only given two choices. One guy has to be somewhat different than the other in some ways. Write in votes, third parties etc. are a wasted vote I think. Politicians don't sit up and take notice of them. Unless people really work to change the 2 party system this is what we're stuck with.

 

[Bush92]

And the key word is were. Unfortunately Republicans decided they had more to gain by turning southern states red than addressing concerns of black voters.

Well maybe, but what did the Ds do to capture the blacks?

Seems to me they decided to buy their votes with government handouts...

Most egregious....yes?

You are making the mistake of believing the Democratic party is somehow secretly led by unknown shadowy figures hidden in the background.

The truth is, the Democratic Party is a coalition party of which blacks are integral to the well being of the party itself.

But do me a favor. Tell me why Republicans and Red States get more "hand outs" than anyone and why is that OK.

Democratic Party is a coalition party

 

[Bush92]

And the key word is were. Unfortunately Republicans decided they had more to gain by turning southern states red than addressing concerns of black voters.

Well maybe, but what did the Ds do to capture the blacks?

Seems to me they decided to buy their votes with government handouts...

Most egregious....yes?

The Republicans lost the black vote not because they opposed integration but because the Democratic presidents, Kennedy and Johnson championed the fight for integration, sending legislation to Congress such as the Civil Rights Act and Voter's Act, and sending federal Marshals into the South to enforce the law.

Meanwhile the 1960 Republican candidate for President, Barry Goldwater was voting against the Civil Rights Bill and declaring he would oppose the Voting Rights Bill. Outspoken conservatives such as William H. Buckley Jr. supported white southern segregation with claims that came close to endorsing white supremacy in the South. And when Republicans jumped on the states right bandwagon which was the rallying cry of southern segregationist, Republicans lost the black vote just as Democrats lost the white southern vote.

The Johnson social welfare bills such as Medicare, the Equal Opportunity Act, Head Start benefited not just blacks but people of all races.

Goldwater was 1964 and he was right. Federal government operating beyond Constitution.

 

[jasonnfree]

GOP is in favor of people empowering themselves through hard work and rugged individualism. Democrats favor making people a permanent "victim class" through welfare and handouts. So yes, the GOP will never have the vote of a group where the majority will not help themselves and produce babies out of wedlock 70% of the time.

Republicans approve of the American farmer—
but they are willing to help him go broke.

They stand four-square for the American home—
but not for housing.

They are strong for labor—
but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights.

They favor minimum wage—the smaller the minimum wage the better.

They endorse educational opportunity for all—
but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools.

They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine—
for people who can afford them.

They consider electrical power a great blessing—
but only when the private power companies get their rake-off.

They think American standard of living is a fine thing—
so long as it doesn't spread to all the people.

And they admire the Government of the United States so much
that they would like to buy it."

~ President Harry S. Truman

Bill Clinton, Al Gore and NAFTA sure helped the working class huh? Democrats are shit. There are no more Harry Truman Democrats left. They are all Obama-Clinton socialist now.

Bill clinton pushing nafta through disproved the propaganda that he was a socialist. Any policy at all that's helping the working class, has been given us by democrats of the past. A real liberal could hardly make it to the debates in modern politics controlled almost 100% by big money. This is how far right the country has turned since reagan. Name something a republican has ever done for you. Never mind, you used to be a republican president.

 

[jasonnfree]

since millions of Blacks of been on that poor plantation since the days of slavery.....what have the Democrats done to get them off it?.....

Glad you asked

Affirmative action did a lot to open up job opportunities never imagined by blacks. It opened up schools, management level positions, the military. It was of course opposed by Republicans
Add to that jobs training programs, jobs placement, small business set asides for minorities, minority set aside loans programs....all opposed by Republicans

Now.....your turn
What have Republicans offered blacks to get them off that "plantation"?

you forget RW i dont care for Republicans any more than i care for your little party......Republicans treat people like shit.....you see that here every day.....Democrats throw bones out and hope everyone thinks they are doing something.....but the fact remains.....there are and have always been millions of blacks in poverty.....most of those blacks who got out did so on their own with hard work and doing good in school or they had a door opened for them because they were good in sports or had some musical talent....but the regular people who did not have those doors opened?.....just languished in poverty their whole lives....how come rich neighborhoods have schools with everything a school should have while the poor parts of town have to sometimes have classes in the fucking bathroom because their normal room was considered unsafe structurally... quite a few "leaders" in my State have said the State Prisons are better maintained than many Schools around here.....oh in case you havent noticed California is a Democratic State that has always thrown lots of money to Education .....i guess most of that went to the good neighborhoods....

I've seen a few nice schools built in low income neighborhoods such as in santa ana, ca.

 

[Dad2three]

Look at how many people even today believe Sen Joe McCarthy used his House Unamerican Activities Committee to blacklist innocent Hollywood writers and start a "Red Scare"

That's the same propaganda machine that set out the fictional --and totally wrong -- LBJ Civil Rights Hero story

I pronounce you King Wing Nutter


The term McCarthyism, coined in 1950 in reference to McCarthy's practices, was soon applied to similar anti-communist activities. Today the term is used more generally in reference to demagogic, reckless, and unsubstantiated accusations, as well as public attacks on the character or patriotism of political opponents

American Heritage Dictionary Entry: McCarthyism

Reagan served as the head of Hollywood's actors' union, the Screen Actors Guild. In his union capacity, Reagan volunteered to serve the FBI as a secret informant against Communists in the entertainment industry. He testified against the Hollywood Ten before the House Un-American Activities Committee.


“Hollywood Ten.”

These men, who became known as the Hollywood Ten, not only refused to cooperate with the investigation but denounced the HUAC anti-communist hearings as an outrageous violation of their civil rights, as the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution gave them the right to belong to any political organization they chose. Some compared the committee’s coercive methods and intimidating tactics to the oppressive measures enacted in Nazi Germany. “I am not on trial here,” declared screenwriter Lawson. “This committee is on trial.”


BUT CONSERVATIVES LOVE THE CONSTITUTION *SHAKING HEAD*

You Stupid Fucking moron!

Unbelievable!

What a fucking Moron!!

HUAC is House...House, not senate. McCarthy was a Senator, how could he have ANYTHING to do with the HUAC!!

You stupid, stupid paid hack! Hopefully your handlers get a refund

Got it, YOU are to ignorant to follow along

"Reagan served as the head of Hollywood's actors' union, the Screen Actors Guild. In his union capacity, Reagan volunteered to serve the FBI as a secret informant against Communists in the entertainment industry. He testified against the Hollywood Ten before the House Un-American Activities Committee."

 

[Dad2three]

Well maybe, but what did the Ds do to capture the blacks?

Seems to me they decided to buy their votes with government handouts...

Most egregious....yes?

The Republicans lost the black vote not because they opposed integration but because the Democratic presidents, Kennedy and Johnson championed the fight for integration, sending legislation to Congress such as the Civil Rights Act and Voter's Act, and sending federal Marshals into the South to enforce the law.

Meanwhile the 1960 Republican candidate for President, Barry Goldwater was voting against the Civil Rights Bill and declaring he would oppose the Voting Rights Bill. Outspoken conservatives such as William H. Buckley Jr. supported white southern segregation with claims that came close to endorsing white supremacy in the South. And when Republicans jumped on the states right bandwagon which was the rallying cry of southern segregationist, Republicans lost the black vote just as Democrats lost the white southern vote.

The Johnson social welfare bills such as Medicare, the Equal Opportunity Act, Head Start benefited not just blacks but people of all races.

Goldwater was 1964 and he was right. Federal government operating beyond Constitution.

More opinion NOT based in facts as SCOTUS has REPEATEDLY affirmed!

 

[Flopper]

Democrats have done nothing for Blacks but make them dependent upon the federal government. Affirmative action programs are a good example of this. So is welfare and public housing. Democratic Party needs a permanent victim class and white guilt in order to survive. You live in the greatest nation (well...used to be) on earth with the most opportunity for economic advancement. I know. Pulled myself up for very humble standards and worked my ass off to do it. Served my nation in combat and have given back all I can to my country since I have been in private sector. The one thing I cannot stand is a fucking crybaby...and the Democratic Party and MSNBC are full of them. Oh BTW...I voted Democrat for almost 30 years...then Clinton and NAFTA sell out. Then Democratic Party only wanted to serve the cultural needs of Blacks, Gays, and NOW butch dykes. Now we have Obama...fuck you DNC.

No, Democrats have not made blacks dependent on welfare. Becoming dependent is either a personal choice or it's unavoidable. The average amount of time a person spends on welfare is 21 months. The average amount of time spent on SNAP is 8 months.

 

[gipper]

Well maybe, but what did the Ds do to capture the blacks?

Seems to me they decided to buy their votes with government handouts...

Most egregious....yes?

The Republicans lost the black vote not because they opposed integration but because the Democratic presidents, Kennedy and Johnson championed the fight for integration, sending legislation to Congress such as the Civil Rights Act and Voter's Act, and sending federal Marshals into the South to enforce the law.

Meanwhile the 1960 Republican candidate for President, Barry Goldwater was voting against the Civil Rights Bill and declaring he would oppose the Voting Rights Bill. Outspoken conservatives such as William H. Buckley Jr. supported white southern segregation with claims that came close to endorsing white supremacy in the South. And when Republicans jumped on the states right bandwagon which was the rallying cry of southern segregationist, Republicans lost the black vote just as Democrats lost the white southern vote.

The Johnson social welfare bills such as Medicare, the Equal Opportunity Act, Head Start benefited not just blacks but people of all races.

Goldwater was 1964 and he was right. Federal government operating beyond Constitution.

Goldwater was right...the welfare state is unconstitutional, but the Constitution is a meaningless piece of paper, in the mind of the leftest...well until it can be used for their purposes.

I do not know how the leftist can factually argue that the welfare state has benefited blacks. The facts clearly show that before our corrupt and fraudulent government imposed the welfare state, blacks families were intact, their p-schools worked, and most had jobs they could support their families with. Little crime, drugs, and gangs existed.

 

[rightwinger]

The Republicans lost the black vote not because they opposed integration but because the Democratic presidents, Kennedy and Johnson championed the fight for integration, sending legislation to Congress such as the Civil Rights Act and Voter's Act, and sending federal Marshals into the South to enforce the law.

Meanwhile the 1960 Republican candidate for President, Barry Goldwater was voting against the Civil Rights Bill and declaring he would oppose the Voting Rights Bill. Outspoken conservatives such as William H. Buckley Jr. supported white southern segregation with claims that came close to endorsing white supremacy in the South. And when Republicans jumped on the states right bandwagon which was the rallying cry of southern segregationist, Republicans lost the black vote just as Democrats lost the white southern vote.

The Johnson social welfare bills such as Medicare, the Equal Opportunity Act, Head Start benefited not just blacks but people of all races.

Goldwater was 1964 and he was right. Federal government operating beyond Constitution.

Goldwater was right...the welfare state is unconstitutional, but the Constitution is a meaningless piece of paper, in the mind of the leftest...well until it can be used for their purposes.

I do not know how the leftist can factually argue that the welfare state has benefited blacks. The facts clearly show that before our corrupt and fraudulent government imposed the welfare state, blacks families were intact, their p-schools worked, and most had jobs they could support their families with. Little crime, drugs, and gangs existed.

It goes much further than welfare

Blacks moved to the cities in droves for the jobs. Manufacturing was king, 80% of our products were made in the USA. Starting in the 80s, those jobs moved out of the cities and out of the country. Poor blacks were the least capable of moving with the jobs, welfare filled that void. Welfare did not cause the problem but it sustained it

 

[rdean]

yea but look at some of the "righties" here and how they talk about non-whites....even if they agree with their policies,why the hell would they want to stand with a party that has a lot of people who are fucking bigots among them and have nothing but contempt for non-whites?....myself i cant see why any minority would want to have anything to do with either party.....

That's cuz you're not bright. The black leaders in the Democratic Party are themselves black.

The leaders in the GOP are crazy ass Teanuts.

i belong to no party,and you follow the Democrats without question.....and im not too bright?.... hold on a second..........

You belong to no party? Liar. You are most definitely a teanut. At the very least, a "nut".

 

[Wildman]

Have Republicans lost the black vote......?

just the ones without enough sense to break away from their liarberal demorat slave masters..

most all intelligent "blacks" are freedom lovers with a mind of their own, not the mind of a slave to the demorat party.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Well maybe, but what did the Ds do to capture the blacks?

Seems to me they decided to buy their votes with government handouts...

Most egregious....yes?

The Republicans lost the black vote not because they opposed integration but because the Democratic presidents, Kennedy and Johnson championed the fight for integration, sending legislation to Congress such as the Civil Rights Act and Voter's Act, and sending federal Marshals into the South to enforce the law.

Meanwhile the 1960 Republican candidate for President, Barry Goldwater was voting against the Civil Rights Bill and declaring he would oppose the Voting Rights Bill. Outspoken conservatives such as William H. Buckley Jr. supported white southern segregation with claims that came close to endorsing white supremacy in the South. And when Republicans jumped on the states right bandwagon which was the rallying cry of southern segregationist, Republicans lost the black vote just as Democrats lost the white southern vote.

The Johnson social welfare bills such as Medicare, the Equal Opportunity Act, Head Start benefited not just blacks but people of all races.

Goldwater was 1964 and he was right. Federal government operating beyond Constitution.

Ok then stop crying about the result of your support then.

 

[rightwinger]

Republicans lost the black vote and said....we don't care
Republicans lost the gay vote and said....we don't care
Republicans lost the Hispanic vote and said....we don't care
Republicans lost the womens vote and said....we don't care

Republicans lost the election and said........somebody must be cheating