Roosevelt: Cold Water Splashed In His Face!

[regent]

What a waste if time trying to convince a few USMB members to hate FDR. First the American people rated the candidates with the election process, the people elected FDR four times, a record that may stand as long as the nation.
After the president leaves office the historians then rate the ex-presidents. They recently rated FDR number one, the best. He may not remain the best as we continually elect new presidents. How come liberals don't attack Lincoln?

He's not the best, the vast majority of any civilization is ignorant, and most people today only know what the government education system told them. People think that FDR lead the nation out of the great depression, and we just showed you that he not only turned the recession into a depression to start with, but also extended it with policies that did the opposite of what he claimed they did. If you think this is wrong, then explain how the policies I mentioned would help the economy. Otherwise, you have no ground to stand on.

What prolonged the great depression was FDR's reverting back to the fiscally conservative policy of balancing the budget in 1937 which set back the economic gains which had been made.

That seems to be the most correct answer. Most historians seem to accept that explanation.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

FDR was a socialist jackass and this nation would have been better off if his brain had bled out 10 years before it did

 

[Pumpkin Row]

What a waste if time trying to convince a few USMB members to hate FDR. First the American people rated the candidates with the election process, the people elected FDR four times, a record that may stand as long as the nation.
After the president leaves office the historians then rate the ex-presidents. They recently rated FDR number one, the best. He may not remain the best as we continually elect new presidents. How come liberals don't attack Lincoln?

He's not the best, the vast majority of any civilization is ignorant, and most people today only know what the government education system told them. People think that FDR lead the nation out of the great depression, and we just showed you that he not only turned the recession into a depression to start with, but also extended it with policies that did the opposite of what he claimed they did. If you think this is wrong, then explain how the policies I mentioned would help the economy. Otherwise, you have no ground to stand on.

What prolonged the great depression was FDR's reverting back to the fiscally conservative policy of balancing the budget in 1937 which set back the economic gains which had been made.

He did absolutely nothing conservative, his policies were socialist the way he regulated businesses and vastly expanded the government. Something tells me you didn't even go check his policies, you just wanted to find some way to blame Conservatives, even if you had to lie to do so.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

What a waste if time trying to convince a few USMB members to hate FDR. First the American people rated the candidates with the election process, the people elected FDR four times, a record that may stand as long as the nation.
After the president leaves office the historians then rate the ex-presidents. They recently rated FDR number one, the best. He may not remain the best as we continually elect new presidents. How come liberals don't attack Lincoln?

He's not the best, the vast majority of any civilization is ignorant, and most people today only know what the government education system told them. People think that FDR lead the nation out of the great depression, and we just showed you that he not only turned the recession into a depression to start with, but also extended it with policies that did the opposite of what he claimed they did. If you think this is wrong, then explain how the policies I mentioned would help the economy. Otherwise, you have no ground to stand on.

What prolonged the great depression was FDR's reverting back to the fiscally conservative policy of balancing the budget in 1937 which set back the economic gains which had been made.

That seems to be the most correct answer. Most historians seem to accept that explanation.

Leave it to a Liberal to pass up an explanation for lies. You must love the Liberal Media and Hillary.

 

[regent]

FDR was a socialist jackass and this nation would have been better off if his brain had bled out 10 years before it did

When all else fails, throw in some name calling.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

FDR was a socialist jackass and this nation would have been better off if his brain had bled out 10 years before it did

When all else fails, throw in some name calling.

You'll get over it...and if you don't I really don't give a damn. You and your little feller friend are clueless on what FDR was all about. That is obvious....by the way a 14 y/o schooled ya

 

[regent]

FDR was a socialist jackass and this nation would have been better off if his brain had bled out 10 years before it did

When all else fails, throw in some name calling.

You'll get over it...and if you don't I really don't give a damn. You and your little feller friend are clueless on what FDR was all about. That is obvious....by the way a 14 y/o schooled ya

At least he seems to read history and doesn't create it to fit his thesis.

 

[Tehon]

What a waste if time trying to convince a few USMB members to hate FDR. First the American people rated the candidates with the election process, the people elected FDR four times, a record that may stand as long as the nation.
After the president leaves office the historians then rate the ex-presidents. They recently rated FDR number one, the best. He may not remain the best as we continually elect new presidents. How come liberals don't attack Lincoln?

He's not the best, the vast majority of any civilization is ignorant, and most people today only know what the government education system told them. People think that FDR lead the nation out of the great depression, and we just showed you that he not only turned the recession into a depression to start with, but also extended it with policies that did the opposite of what he claimed they did. If you think this is wrong, then explain how the policies I mentioned would help the economy. Otherwise, you have no ground to stand on.

What prolonged the great depression was FDR's reverting back to the fiscally conservative policy of balancing the budget in 1937 which set back the economic gains which had been made.

He did absolutely nothing conservative, his policies were socialist the way he regulated businesses and vastly expanded the government. Something tells me you didn't even go check his policies, you just wanted to find some way to blame Conservatives, even if you had to lie to do so.

FDR was a capitalist with many ties to wall street bankers and his policies were Keynesian which is economic theory rooted in capitalism. In 1937 FDR shifted his policy away from Keynesian economic theory, which was working, toward a conservative fiscal policy of neo-liberal austerity, which was proven a failure.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What a waste if time trying to convince a few USMB members to hate FDR. First the American people rated the candidates with the election process, the people elected FDR four times, a record that may stand as long as the nation.
After the president leaves office the historians then rate the ex-presidents. They recently rated FDR number one, the best. He may not remain the best as we continually elect new presidents. How come liberals don't attack Lincoln?

He's not the best, the vast majority of any civilization is ignorant, and most people today only know what the government education system told them. People think that FDR lead the nation out of the great depression, and we just showed you that he not only turned the recession into a depression to start with, but also extended it with policies that did the opposite of what he claimed they did. If you think this is wrong, then explain how the policies I mentioned would help the economy. Otherwise, you have no ground to stand on.

What prolonged the great depression was FDR's reverting back to the fiscally conservative policy of balancing the budget in 1937 which set back the economic gains which had been made.

He did absolutely nothing conservative, his policies were socialist the way he regulated businesses and vastly expanded the government. Something tells me you didn't even go check his policies, you just wanted to find some way to blame Conservatives, even if you had to lie to do so.

FDR was a capitalist with many ties to wall street bankers and his policies were Keynesian which is economic theory rooted in capitalism. In 1937 FDR shifted his policy away from Keynesian economic theory, which was working, toward a conservative fiscal policy of neo-liberal austerity, which was proven a failure.

You couldn't be more wrong.

You could try....but you wouldn't be successful.

 

[Camp]

FDR was a socialist jackass and this nation would have been better off if his brain had bled out 10 years before it did

When all else fails, throw in some name calling.

You'll get over it...and if you don't I really don't give a damn. You and your little feller friend are clueless on what FDR was all about. That is obvious....by the way a 14 y/o schooled ya

At least he seems to read history and doesn't create it to fit his thesis.

This thread follows the regular PoliticalChic pattern or promoting misinformation via cherry picking and lies through omission. Declaring the four years leading up to FDR's first inauguration were a recession and not a full-fledged depression based on unemployment numbers is of course, ridiculous and goes against accepted history. So the cherry picked "fact" is that a single factor used to determine recessions and depressions is used to promote her "documented, sourced fact" to claim she is always right, is this cherry picked "fact". What gets omitted is another little fact. When FDR was inaugurated five thousand (5,000) banks had already been forced into closure. Imagine if today we were faced with thousands of banks going bankrupt and out of business. Would we call it a "recession"? Of course not. We would call that period a depression the way historians have recognized it as being for over 80 years. Look up 1929 recession. Good luck. You will end up seeing pages of links to the Great Depression with the same timeline and analysis that the Great Depression began with the stock market crash in 1929.

As usual, the OP makes ridiculous claims, such as FDR being responsible for abandoning American servicemen to Stalin after WWII. This is based on a couple of letters made a month before FDR died and BEFORE the war had ended. When this was challenged and refuted, PoliticalChic reverted to another of her disinformation methods. She simply ignored the challenged and answered with some name calling and insults and reposted the same post that had been challenged. In other words, she evaded answering the challenge that her post had relied on discussions and events that occurred after FDR had died.


Anti New DEAL sentiments come from those who are opposed to government funding to boost the economy. It supports a trickle down economic theory that concentrates on corporate welfare, but more specifially, support for the MIT, the military industral complex. You think the government is not funding the economy? FDR sent the funds straight to projects that built infrastructure and lower or middle income workers. The MIT funnels funds to corportate and industry and benifits mostly upper income workers and those with stocks and owership of the MIT. FDR's concept of funding the economy via government work projects is still being used. It is just coming from a back door conduit called the MIT.

 

[HenryBHough]

Had FDR lived World War II would still be a work in progress.

 

[PoliticalChic]

FDR was a socialist jackass and this nation would have been better off if his brain had bled out 10 years before it did

When all else fails, throw in some name calling.

You'll get over it...and if you don't I really don't give a damn. You and your little feller friend are clueless on what FDR was all about. That is obvious....by the way a 14 y/o schooled ya

At least he seems to read history and doesn't create it to fit his thesis.

This thread follows the regular PoliticalChic pattern or promoting misinformation via cherry picking and lies through omission. Declaring the four years leading up to FDR's first inauguration were a recession and not a full-fledged depression based on unemployment numbers is of course, ridiculous and goes against accepted history. So the cherry picked "fact" is that a single factor used to determine recessions and depressions is used to promote her "documented, sourced fact" to claim she is always right is this cherry picked "fact". What gets omitted is another little fact. When FDR was inaugurated five thousand (5,000) had already been forced into closure. Imagine if today we were faced with thousands of banks going bankrupt and out of business. Would we call it a "recession"? Of course not. We would call that period a depression the way historians have recognized it as being. Look up 1929 recession. Good luck. You will end up seeing pages of links to the Great Depression with the same timeline and analysis that the Great Depression began with the stock market crash in 1929.

As usual, the OP makes ridiculous claims, such as FDR being responsible for abandoning American servicemen to Stalin after WWII. This is based on a couple of letters made a month before FDR died and BEFORE the war had ended. When this was challenged and refuted, PoliticalChic reverted to another of her disinformation methods. She simply ignored the challenged and answered with some name calling and insults and reposted the same post that had been challenged. In other words, she evaded answering the challenge that her post had relied on discussions and events that occurred after FDR had died.


Anti New DEAL sentiments come from those who are opposed to government funding to boost the economy. It supports a trickle down economic theory that concentrates on corporate welfare, but more specifially, support for the MIT, the military industral complex. You think the government is not funding the economy? FDR sent the funds straight to projects that built infrastructure and lower or middle income workers. The MIT funnels funds to corportate and industry and benifits mostly upper income workers and those with stocks and owership of the MIT. FDR's concept of funding the economy via government work projects is still being used. It is just coming from a back door conduit called the MIT.

"....promoting misinformation via cherry picking and lies through omission..."

What is this....the dozenth time I've given you the opportunity to find any thing I've posted that isn't true, accurate and correct....


...and the best you've ever been able to do is cry "is not, isssss noooottttttt!!!! Waaaa waaaa....."

It becomes tiresome.


Roosevelt chose the pathological murderer Joseph Stalin as his dance partner....then...when it was revealed that thousands of American soldiers were being held prisoner in the gulags.....

...Roosevelt 'requested' that they be returned.

Stalin laughed in his face, revealing how he had used Roosevelt....

Hence the title of the thread.


Thanks so much for your ineptitude....which helped prove everything I've posted.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If any would like to see a quote of Roosevelt's that both proves what a fool he was....

....and that will bring tears to the eyes of those who love this country.....

....here it is:

“I know you will not mind my being brutally frank,” wrote Roosevelt to Churchill early in their alliance, “when I tell you that I can personally handle Stalin better than either your Foreign Office or my State Department. Stalin hates the guts of all your people. He thinks he likes me better, and I hope he will continue to.”

Roosevelt was being boastful, of course, but in the very act of boasting being also fatuous and credulous, to say the least. He knew nothing really about European, much less Soviet, affairs."
http://www.mmisi.org/ma/30_02/nisbet.pdf



Seems to be the very same megalomania exhibited by the current Democrat President:
"The White House takes pride in the fact that Obama’s PDB is “not briefed to him” – because, they say, he is “among the most sophisticated consumers of intelligence on the planet.” That hubris brings to mind this revealing quote from a September 2008 New York Times profile of Obama:

“I think that I’m a better speechwriter than my speechwriters,” Mr. Obama told Patrick Gaspard, his political director, at the start of the 2008 campaign, according to The New Yorker. “I know more about policies on any particular issue than my policy directors. And I’ll tell you right now that I’m going to think I’m a better political director than my political director.”

So it should come as no surprise that apparently Barack Obama thinks he’s a better intelligence briefer than his intelligence briefers."
Obama: I’m a better intelligence briefer than my intelligence briefers - AEI



Imagine, there are still half-heads who support both of these individuals.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Had FDR lived World War II would still be a work in progress.

But, in Paris, they'd be speaking Russian rather than Arabic.

 

[Tehon]

What a waste if time trying to convince a few USMB members to hate FDR. First the American people rated the candidates with the election process, the people elected FDR four times, a record that may stand as long as the nation.
After the president leaves office the historians then rate the ex-presidents. They recently rated FDR number one, the best. He may not remain the best as we continually elect new presidents. How come liberals don't attack Lincoln?

He's not the best, the vast majority of any civilization is ignorant, and most people today only know what the government education system told them. People think that FDR lead the nation out of the great depression, and we just showed you that he not only turned the recession into a depression to start with, but also extended it with policies that did the opposite of what he claimed they did. If you think this is wrong, then explain how the policies I mentioned would help the economy. Otherwise, you have no ground to stand on.

What prolonged the great depression was FDR's reverting back to the fiscally conservative policy of balancing the budget in 1937 which set back the economic gains which had been made.

He did absolutely nothing conservative, his policies were socialist the way he regulated businesses and vastly expanded the government. Something tells me you didn't even go check his policies, you just wanted to find some way to blame Conservatives, even if you had to lie to do so.

FDR was a capitalist with many ties to wall street bankers and his policies were Keynesian which is economic theory rooted in capitalism. In 1937 FDR shifted his policy away from Keynesian economic theory, which was working, toward a conservative fiscal policy of neo-liberal austerity, which was proven a failure.

You couldn't be more wrong.

You could try....but you wouldn't be successful.

This is your work of fiction promoted earlier in this thread to advance your partisan agenda.

a. FDR hated successful entrepreneurs, because he could not find any way to be successful in business. And.....future capitalists had rejected him in college.

But you couldn't be more wrong. This is the reality of FDR's business dealings that you attempt to distort. He is a capitalist of some success.

Franklin D. Roosevelt was, at one time or another during the 1920s, a vice president of the Fidelity & Deposit Company (120 Broadway); the president of an industry trade association, the American Construction Council (28 West 44th Street); a partner in Roosevelt & O'Connor (120 Broadway); a partner in Marvin, Hooker & Roosevelt (52 Wall Street); the president of United European Investors, Ltd. (7 Pine Street); a director of International Germanic Trust, Inc. (in the Standard Oil Building at 26 Broadway); a director of Consolidated Automatic Merchandising Corporation, a paper organization; a trustee of Georgia Warm Springs Foundation (120 Broadway); a director of American Investigation Corporation (37-39 Pine Street); a director of Sanitary Postage Service Corporation (285 Madison Avenue); the chairman of the General Trust Company (15 Broad Street); a director of Photomaton (551 Fifth Avenue); a director of Mantacal Oil Corporation (Rock Springs, Wyoming); and an incorporator of the Federal International Investment Trust. That's a pretty fair list of directorships. It surely earns FDR the title of Wall Streeter par excellence. Most who work on "the Street" never achieve, and probably never even dream about achieving, a record of 11 corporate directorships, two law partnerships, and the presidency of a major trade association.
CHAPTER 1

 

[PoliticalChic]

He's not the best, the vast majority of any civilization is ignorant, and most people today only know what the government education system told them. People think that FDR lead the nation out of the great depression, and we just showed you that he not only turned the recession into a depression to start with, but also extended it with policies that did the opposite of what he claimed they did. If you think this is wrong, then explain how the policies I mentioned would help the economy. Otherwise, you have no ground to stand on.

What prolonged the great depression was FDR's reverting back to the fiscally conservative policy of balancing the budget in 1937 which set back the economic gains which had been made.

He did absolutely nothing conservative, his policies were socialist the way he regulated businesses and vastly expanded the government. Something tells me you didn't even go check his policies, you just wanted to find some way to blame Conservatives, even if you had to lie to do so.

FDR was a capitalist with many ties to wall street bankers and his policies were Keynesian which is economic theory rooted in capitalism. In 1937 FDR shifted his policy away from Keynesian economic theory, which was working, toward a conservative fiscal policy of neo-liberal austerity, which was proven a failure.

You couldn't be more wrong.

You could try....but you wouldn't be successful.

This is your work of fiction promoted earlier in this thread to advance your partisan agenda.

a. FDR hated successful entrepreneurs, because he could not find any way to be successful in business. And.....future capitalists had rejected him in college.

But you couldn't be more wrong. This is the reality of FDR's business dealings that you attempt to distort. He is a capitalist of some success.

Franklin D. Roosevelt was, at one time or another during the 1920s, a vice president of the Fidelity & Deposit Company (120 Broadway); the president of an industry trade association, the American Construction Council (28 West 44th Street); a partner in Roosevelt & O'Connor (120 Broadway); a partner in Marvin, Hooker & Roosevelt (52 Wall Street); the president of United European Investors, Ltd. (7 Pine Street); a director of International Germanic Trust, Inc. (in the Standard Oil Building at 26 Broadway); a director of Consolidated Automatic Merchandising Corporation, a paper organization; a trustee of Georgia Warm Springs Foundation (120 Broadway); a director of American Investigation Corporation (37-39 Pine Street); a director of Sanitary Postage Service Corporation (285 Madison Avenue); the chairman of the General Trust Company (15 Broad Street); a director of Photomaton (551 Fifth Avenue); a director of Mantacal Oil Corporation (Rock Springs, Wyoming); and an incorporator of the Federal International Investment Trust. That's a pretty fair list of directorships. It surely earns FDR the title of Wall Streeter par excellence. Most who work on "the Street" never achieve, and probably never even dream about achieving, a record of 11 corporate directorships, two law partnerships, and the presidency of a major trade association.
CHAPTER 1

You left this out:

a. "....he pursued futile schemes to drill oil in Wyoming, buy ships to cross the Atlantic, and sell stamps that were premoistened....tried to corner the live lobster market...lost $26,000 before bailing out.....he assumed that airplanes were only a passing fad, and he invested in a line of airships, called dirigibles,....tried buying and selling German marks, planting thousands of trees, making cash with vending machines,....lost money in his resort for polio patients in Warm Springs, Georgia- and then, to top that off, he lost more money farming the land nearby."
"A First Class Temperament: The Emergence of Franklin Roosevelt, 1905-1928,"
by Geoffrey C. Ward, p. 658, 756, 768-769, 793; Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal," p.24-25


b. "Roosevelt knows nothing about finance, but he doesn't know he doesn't know." Franklin Lane, Woodrow Wilson's Sec'y of the Interior
The Final Case Against Franklin Delano Obama - The Last Resistance


c. FDR became a failed lawyer (without a degree) in 1907
Two presidents, Theodore Roosevelt (1901-1909), and his cousin, Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945), both attended Columbia law school, both withdrew, and both were posthumously awarded degrees in 2008.https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2015/02/12/which-u-s-presidents-didnt-earn-a-college-degree-two-of-them-are-on-mount-rushmore/

Never learned to respect the Constitution, it seems.
Neither of them did.





Time and again we see Democrat/Liberal politicians who are either failures in business....FDR.....or who know nothing about enterprise, creating a political milieu that results in a poor economy.....

Such as this:
" In a stunning Tuesday report, Gallup CEO and Chairman Jim Clifton revealed that “for the first time in 35 years, American business deaths now outnumber business births.”Clifton says for the past six years since 2008, employer business startups have fallen below the business failure rate, spurring what he calls “an underground earthquake” that only stands to worsen as lagging U.S. Census data becomes available.
“Let’s get one thing clear: This economy is never truly coming back unless we reverse the birth and death trends of American businesses,” writes Clifton."
Economic Death Spiral: More American Businesses Dying Than Starting - Breitbart

 

[Tehon]

What prolonged the great depression was FDR's reverting back to the fiscally conservative policy of balancing the budget in 1937 which set back the economic gains which had been made.

He did absolutely nothing conservative, his policies were socialist the way he regulated businesses and vastly expanded the government. Something tells me you didn't even go check his policies, you just wanted to find some way to blame Conservatives, even if you had to lie to do so.

FDR was a capitalist with many ties to wall street bankers and his policies were Keynesian which is economic theory rooted in capitalism. In 1937 FDR shifted his policy away from Keynesian economic theory, which was working, toward a conservative fiscal policy of neo-liberal austerity, which was proven a failure.

You couldn't be more wrong.

You could try....but you wouldn't be successful.

This is your work of fiction promoted earlier in this thread to advance your partisan agenda.

a. FDR hated successful entrepreneurs, because he could not find any way to be successful in business. And.....future capitalists had rejected him in college.

But you couldn't be more wrong. This is the reality of FDR's business dealings that you attempt to distort. He is a capitalist of some success.

Franklin D. Roosevelt was, at one time or another during the 1920s, a vice president of the Fidelity & Deposit Company (120 Broadway); the president of an industry trade association, the American Construction Council (28 West 44th Street); a partner in Roosevelt & O'Connor (120 Broadway); a partner in Marvin, Hooker & Roosevelt (52 Wall Street); the president of United European Investors, Ltd. (7 Pine Street); a director of International Germanic Trust, Inc. (in the Standard Oil Building at 26 Broadway); a director of Consolidated Automatic Merchandising Corporation, a paper organization; a trustee of Georgia Warm Springs Foundation (120 Broadway); a director of American Investigation Corporation (37-39 Pine Street); a director of Sanitary Postage Service Corporation (285 Madison Avenue); the chairman of the General Trust Company (15 Broad Street); a director of Photomaton (551 Fifth Avenue); a director of Mantacal Oil Corporation (Rock Springs, Wyoming); and an incorporator of the Federal International Investment Trust. That's a pretty fair list of directorships. It surely earns FDR the title of Wall Streeter par excellence. Most who work on "the Street" never achieve, and probably never even dream about achieving, a record of 11 corporate directorships, two law partnerships, and the presidency of a major trade association.
CHAPTER 1

You left this out:

a. "....he pursued futile schemes to drill oil in Wyoming, buy ships to cross the Atlantic, and sell stamps that were premoistened....tried to corner the live lobster market...lost $26,000 before bailing out.....he assumed that airplanes were only a passing fad, and he invested in a line of airships, called dirigibles,....tried buying and selling German marks, planting thousands of trees, making cash with vending machines,....lost money in his resort for polio patients in Warm Springs, Georgia- and then, to top that off, he lost more money farming the land nearby."
"A First Class Temperament: The Emergence of Franklin Roosevelt, 1905-1928,"
by Geoffrey C. Ward, p. 658, 756, 768-769, 793; Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal," p.24-25


b. "Roosevelt knows nothing about finance, but he doesn't know he doesn't know." Franklin Lane, Woodrow Wilson's Sec'y of the Interior
The Final Case Against Franklin Delano Obama - The Last Resistance


c. FDR became a failed lawyer (without a degree) in 1907
Two presidents, Theodore Roosevelt (1901-1909), and his cousin, Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945), both attended Columbia law school, both withdrew, and both were posthumously awarded degrees in 2008.https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2015/02/12/which-u-s-presidents-didnt-earn-a-college-degree-two-of-them-are-on-mount-rushmore/

Never learned to respect the Constitution, it seems.
Neither of them did.





Time and again we see Democrat/Liberal politicians who are either failures in business....FDR.....or who know nothing about enterprise, creating a political milieu that results in a poor economy.....

Such as this:
" In a stunning Tuesday report, Gallup CEO and Chairman Jim Clifton revealed that “for the first time in 35 years, American business deaths now outnumber business births.”Clifton says for the past six years since 2008, employer business startups have fallen below the business failure rate, spurring what he calls “an underground earthquake” that only stands to worsen as lagging U.S. Census data becomes available.
“Let’s get one thing clear: This economy is never truly coming back unless we reverse the birth and death trends of American businesses,” writes Clifton."
Economic Death Spiral: More American Businesses Dying Than Starting - Breitbart

You left this out:

What I left out was all of your spin, the names of the companies are all there in my post, presented in a factual manner.

FDR was a capitalist who represented wall street interests.His NRA was adapted from the Swope Plan. Gererad Swope was the president of General Electric Company. Glass-Steagall was proposed by Winthrop Aldrich (Chase Bank) and James Perkins (National City Bank), who wanted to weaken Morgan Bank.

This was his modus operandi. He wrote this shortly after becoming the VP Fidelity and Deposit Company of Maryland in 1921.

I am going to take advantage of our old friendship and ask you if you can help me out any [sic] in an effort to get fidelity and contract bonds from the powers that be in Brooklyn.
Franklin D. Roosevelt to Congressman J. A. Maher, March 2, 1922.

These are not the acts of someone who hates successful entrepreneurs, these are the acts of a full fledged capitalist.

 

[PoliticalChic]

He did absolutely nothing conservative, his policies were socialist the way he regulated businesses and vastly expanded the government. Something tells me you didn't even go check his policies, you just wanted to find some way to blame Conservatives, even if you had to lie to do so.

FDR was a capitalist with many ties to wall street bankers and his policies were Keynesian which is economic theory rooted in capitalism. In 1937 FDR shifted his policy away from Keynesian economic theory, which was working, toward a conservative fiscal policy of neo-liberal austerity, which was proven a failure.

You couldn't be more wrong.

You could try....but you wouldn't be successful.

This is your work of fiction promoted earlier in this thread to advance your partisan agenda.

a. FDR hated successful entrepreneurs, because he could not find any way to be successful in business. And.....future capitalists had rejected him in college.

But you couldn't be more wrong. This is the reality of FDR's business dealings that you attempt to distort. He is a capitalist of some success.

Franklin D. Roosevelt was, at one time or another during the 1920s, a vice president of the Fidelity & Deposit Company (120 Broadway); the president of an industry trade association, the American Construction Council (28 West 44th Street); a partner in Roosevelt & O'Connor (120 Broadway); a partner in Marvin, Hooker & Roosevelt (52 Wall Street); the president of United European Investors, Ltd. (7 Pine Street); a director of International Germanic Trust, Inc. (in the Standard Oil Building at 26 Broadway); a director of Consolidated Automatic Merchandising Corporation, a paper organization; a trustee of Georgia Warm Springs Foundation (120 Broadway); a director of American Investigation Corporation (37-39 Pine Street); a director of Sanitary Postage Service Corporation (285 Madison Avenue); the chairman of the General Trust Company (15 Broad Street); a director of Photomaton (551 Fifth Avenue); a director of Mantacal Oil Corporation (Rock Springs, Wyoming); and an incorporator of the Federal International Investment Trust. That's a pretty fair list of directorships. It surely earns FDR the title of Wall Streeter par excellence. Most who work on "the Street" never achieve, and probably never even dream about achieving, a record of 11 corporate directorships, two law partnerships, and the presidency of a major trade association.
CHAPTER 1

You left this out:

a. "....he pursued futile schemes to drill oil in Wyoming, buy ships to cross the Atlantic, and sell stamps that were premoistened....tried to corner the live lobster market...lost $26,000 before bailing out.....he assumed that airplanes were only a passing fad, and he invested in a line of airships, called dirigibles,....tried buying and selling German marks, planting thousands of trees, making cash with vending machines,....lost money in his resort for polio patients in Warm Springs, Georgia- and then, to top that off, he lost more money farming the land nearby."
"A First Class Temperament: The Emergence of Franklin Roosevelt, 1905-1928,"
by Geoffrey C. Ward, p. 658, 756, 768-769, 793; Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal," p.24-25


b. "Roosevelt knows nothing about finance, but he doesn't know he doesn't know." Franklin Lane, Woodrow Wilson's Sec'y of the Interior
The Final Case Against Franklin Delano Obama - The Last Resistance


c. FDR became a failed lawyer (without a degree) in 1907
Two presidents, Theodore Roosevelt (1901-1909), and his cousin, Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945), both attended Columbia law school, both withdrew, and both were posthumously awarded degrees in 2008.https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2015/02/12/which-u-s-presidents-didnt-earn-a-college-degree-two-of-them-are-on-mount-rushmore/

Never learned to respect the Constitution, it seems.
Neither of them did.





Time and again we see Democrat/Liberal politicians who are either failures in business....FDR.....or who know nothing about enterprise, creating a political milieu that results in a poor economy.....

Such as this:
" In a stunning Tuesday report, Gallup CEO and Chairman Jim Clifton revealed that “for the first time in 35 years, American business deaths now outnumber business births.”Clifton says for the past six years since 2008, employer business startups have fallen below the business failure rate, spurring what he calls “an underground earthquake” that only stands to worsen as lagging U.S. Census data becomes available.
“Let’s get one thing clear: This economy is never truly coming back unless we reverse the birth and death trends of American businesses,” writes Clifton."
Economic Death Spiral: More American Businesses Dying Than Starting - Breitbart

You left this out:

What I left out was all of your spin, the names of the companies are all there in my post, presented in a factual manner.

FDR was a capitalist who represented wall street interests.His NRA was adapted from the Swope Plan. Gererad Swope was the president of General Electric Company. Glass-Steagall was proposed by Winthrop Aldrich (Chase Bank) and James Perkins (National City Bank), who wanted to weaken Morgan Bank.

This was his modus operandi. He wrote this shortly after becoming the VP Fidelity and Deposit Company of Maryland in 1921.

I am going to take advantage of our old friendship and ask you if you can help me out any [sic] in an effort to get fidelity and contract bonds from the powers that be in Brooklyn.
Franklin D. Roosevelt to Congressman J. A. Maher, March 2, 1922.

These are not the acts of someone who hates successful entrepreneurs, these are the acts of a full fledged capitalist.

Your list was a total fabrication.

It was provided by the congenital liar, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, in a puff piece book edited by his son.


Now....for truth....which is my stock in trade:

1. "A few months before his marriage, Franklin began law school at Columbia University. He attended for two years, never graduated, and displayed neither an aptitude nor a passion for the law. He did pass the bar, though, and worked for a few years at the New York City law firm of Carter, Ledyard, and Milburn. In 1910, however, fellow Democrats from upstate asked Roosevelt to run for political office. He quickly agreed. Although historians are unsure of FDR's precise motives for entering politics, a few reasons seem central. First, FDR truly disliked being a lawyer. Second, he enjoyed meeting new challenges and new people, both of which were integral to political life. Third, politics offered him the opportunity to be a leader, which appealed to his sense of self and conformed to his understanding of his role in the world. Finally, FDR's immense admiration for former President Theodore Roosevelt spurred him to try his hand at politics." Franklin D. Roosevelt: Life Before the Presidency—Miller Center


2. "Franklin studied law at Columbia University Law School and passed the bar exam in 1907, though he didn't receive a degree. For the next three years, he practiced corporate law in New York, living the typical upper-class life. But he found law practice boring and restrictive. He set his sights on greater accomplishments". http://www.biography.com/people/franklin-d-roosevelt-9463381#early-life


3. "FDR resumed his studies at Columbia University Law School, which he had begun in the fall of 1904. He never completed the courses needed to receive an LL.B. degree, but passed the bar examination at the end of three years and began a law practice in New York City. In 1910, FDR won a seat in the New York State Senate."
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1882-1945)


4. "Roosevelt attended law school at Columbia University and worked for several years as a clerk in a Wall Street law firm. In 1910, he entered politics, ...."
Franklin D. Roosevelt - U.S. Presidents - HISTORY.com



Now....where do you see references to a sparking career in business...marked with successful endeavors?????

Where????


No where...."worked for several years as a clerk"....then became, excuse the expression, a politician.
His talent....his only talent....was smiling and shaking hands.


Roosevelt was a poor student, a failure in business, and a mistake as a politician.

God help America, when there are so many easily fooled like you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

He did absolutely nothing conservative, his policies were socialist the way he regulated businesses and vastly expanded the government. Something tells me you didn't even go check his policies, you just wanted to find some way to blame Conservatives, even if you had to lie to do so.

FDR was a capitalist with many ties to wall street bankers and his policies were Keynesian which is economic theory rooted in capitalism. In 1937 FDR shifted his policy away from Keynesian economic theory, which was working, toward a conservative fiscal policy of neo-liberal austerity, which was proven a failure.

You couldn't be more wrong.

You could try....but you wouldn't be successful.

This is your work of fiction promoted earlier in this thread to advance your partisan agenda.

a. FDR hated successful entrepreneurs, because he could not find any way to be successful in business. And.....future capitalists had rejected him in college.

But you couldn't be more wrong. This is the reality of FDR's business dealings that you attempt to distort. He is a capitalist of some success.

Franklin D. Roosevelt was, at one time or another during the 1920s, a vice president of the Fidelity & Deposit Company (120 Broadway); the president of an industry trade association, the American Construction Council (28 West 44th Street); a partner in Roosevelt & O'Connor (120 Broadway); a partner in Marvin, Hooker & Roosevelt (52 Wall Street); the president of United European Investors, Ltd. (7 Pine Street); a director of International Germanic Trust, Inc. (in the Standard Oil Building at 26 Broadway); a director of Consolidated Automatic Merchandising Corporation, a paper organization; a trustee of Georgia Warm Springs Foundation (120 Broadway); a director of American Investigation Corporation (37-39 Pine Street); a director of Sanitary Postage Service Corporation (285 Madison Avenue); the chairman of the General Trust Company (15 Broad Street); a director of Photomaton (551 Fifth Avenue); a director of Mantacal Oil Corporation (Rock Springs, Wyoming); and an incorporator of the Federal International Investment Trust. That's a pretty fair list of directorships. It surely earns FDR the title of Wall Streeter par excellence. Most who work on "the Street" never achieve, and probably never even dream about achieving, a record of 11 corporate directorships, two law partnerships, and the presidency of a major trade association.
CHAPTER 1

You left this out:

a. "....he pursued futile schemes to drill oil in Wyoming, buy ships to cross the Atlantic, and sell stamps that were premoistened....tried to corner the live lobster market...lost $26,000 before bailing out.....he assumed that airplanes were only a passing fad, and he invested in a line of airships, called dirigibles,....tried buying and selling German marks, planting thousands of trees, making cash with vending machines,....lost money in his resort for polio patients in Warm Springs, Georgia- and then, to top that off, he lost more money farming the land nearby."
"A First Class Temperament: The Emergence of Franklin Roosevelt, 1905-1928,"
by Geoffrey C. Ward, p. 658, 756, 768-769, 793; Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal," p.24-25


b. "Roosevelt knows nothing about finance, but he doesn't know he doesn't know." Franklin Lane, Woodrow Wilson's Sec'y of the Interior
The Final Case Against Franklin Delano Obama - The Last Resistance


c. FDR became a failed lawyer (without a degree) in 1907
Two presidents, Theodore Roosevelt (1901-1909), and his cousin, Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945), both attended Columbia law school, both withdrew, and both were posthumously awarded degrees in 2008.https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2015/02/12/which-u-s-presidents-didnt-earn-a-college-degree-two-of-them-are-on-mount-rushmore/

Never learned to respect the Constitution, it seems.
Neither of them did.





Time and again we see Democrat/Liberal politicians who are either failures in business....FDR.....or who know nothing about enterprise, creating a political milieu that results in a poor economy.....

Such as this:
" In a stunning Tuesday report, Gallup CEO and Chairman Jim Clifton revealed that “for the first time in 35 years, American business deaths now outnumber business births.”Clifton says for the past six years since 2008, employer business startups have fallen below the business failure rate, spurring what he calls “an underground earthquake” that only stands to worsen as lagging U.S. Census data becomes available.
“Let’s get one thing clear: This economy is never truly coming back unless we reverse the birth and death trends of American businesses,” writes Clifton."
Economic Death Spiral: More American Businesses Dying Than Starting - Breitbart

You left this out:

What I left out was all of your spin, the names of the companies are all there in my post, presented in a factual manner.

FDR was a capitalist who represented wall street interests.His NRA was adapted from the Swope Plan. Gererad Swope was the president of General Electric Company. Glass-Steagall was proposed by Winthrop Aldrich (Chase Bank) and James Perkins (National City Bank), who wanted to weaken Morgan Bank.

This was his modus operandi. He wrote this shortly after becoming the VP Fidelity and Deposit Company of Maryland in 1921.

I am going to take advantage of our old friendship and ask you if you can help me out any [sic] in an effort to get fidelity and contract bonds from the powers that be in Brooklyn.
Franklin D. Roosevelt to Congressman J. A. Maher, March 2, 1922.

These are not the acts of someone who hates successful entrepreneurs, these are the acts of a full fledged capitalist.

"These are not the acts of someone who hates successful entrepreneurs, these are the acts of a full fledged capitalist."

Really?

Let's see what he said before he attempted to destroy them:

.FDR hated capitalists. A personal hatred....petulance....and not based on ideology!

1. Franklin Roosevelt had a visceral animosity toward businessmen, entrepreneurs, successful capitalists. And he had a way with words, in describing them. "unscrupulousmoney changers..." the greed and shortsightedness of bankers and businessmen," "..rulers of the exchange of mankind's goods have failed through their own stubbornness and their own incompetence" "we apply social values more noble than mere monetary profit." "there must be an end to a conduct in banking and in business which too often has given to a sacred trust the likeness of callous and selfish wrongdoing."



2. John Maynard Keynes, in a letter published in the NYTimes, December 31, 1933, warned “ even wise and necessary Reform may, in some respects, impede and complicate Recovery. For it will upset the confidence of the business world and weaken their existing motives to action.” Even Keynes saw the danger in treating the nation’s capitalists as an enemy, as “the unscrupulous money changers,” as FDR called them in his first Inaugural.



Wise up.
His aim was to 'get even' with the successful, just as every communist, socialist, Liberal aims to do....

 

[Tehon]

FDR was a capitalist with many ties to wall street bankers and his policies were Keynesian which is economic theory rooted in capitalism. In 1937 FDR shifted his policy away from Keynesian economic theory, which was working, toward a conservative fiscal policy of neo-liberal austerity, which was proven a failure.

You couldn't be more wrong.

You could try....but you wouldn't be successful.

This is your work of fiction promoted earlier in this thread to advance your partisan agenda.

a. FDR hated successful entrepreneurs, because he could not find any way to be successful in business. And.....future capitalists had rejected him in college.

But you couldn't be more wrong. This is the reality of FDR's business dealings that you attempt to distort. He is a capitalist of some success.

Franklin D. Roosevelt was, at one time or another during the 1920s, a vice president of the Fidelity & Deposit Company (120 Broadway); the president of an industry trade association, the American Construction Council (28 West 44th Street); a partner in Roosevelt & O'Connor (120 Broadway); a partner in Marvin, Hooker & Roosevelt (52 Wall Street); the president of United European Investors, Ltd. (7 Pine Street); a director of International Germanic Trust, Inc. (in the Standard Oil Building at 26 Broadway); a director of Consolidated Automatic Merchandising Corporation, a paper organization; a trustee of Georgia Warm Springs Foundation (120 Broadway); a director of American Investigation Corporation (37-39 Pine Street); a director of Sanitary Postage Service Corporation (285 Madison Avenue); the chairman of the General Trust Company (15 Broad Street); a director of Photomaton (551 Fifth Avenue); a director of Mantacal Oil Corporation (Rock Springs, Wyoming); and an incorporator of the Federal International Investment Trust. That's a pretty fair list of directorships. It surely earns FDR the title of Wall Streeter par excellence. Most who work on "the Street" never achieve, and probably never even dream about achieving, a record of 11 corporate directorships, two law partnerships, and the presidency of a major trade association.
CHAPTER 1

You left this out:

a. "....he pursued futile schemes to drill oil in Wyoming, buy ships to cross the Atlantic, and sell stamps that were premoistened....tried to corner the live lobster market...lost $26,000 before bailing out.....he assumed that airplanes were only a passing fad, and he invested in a line of airships, called dirigibles,....tried buying and selling German marks, planting thousands of trees, making cash with vending machines,....lost money in his resort for polio patients in Warm Springs, Georgia- and then, to top that off, he lost more money farming the land nearby."
"A First Class Temperament: The Emergence of Franklin Roosevelt, 1905-1928,"
by Geoffrey C. Ward, p. 658, 756, 768-769, 793; Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal," p.24-25


b. "Roosevelt knows nothing about finance, but he doesn't know he doesn't know." Franklin Lane, Woodrow Wilson's Sec'y of the Interior
The Final Case Against Franklin Delano Obama - The Last Resistance


c. FDR became a failed lawyer (without a degree) in 1907
Two presidents, Theodore Roosevelt (1901-1909), and his cousin, Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945), both attended Columbia law school, both withdrew, and both were posthumously awarded degrees in 2008.https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2015/02/12/which-u-s-presidents-didnt-earn-a-college-degree-two-of-them-are-on-mount-rushmore/

Never learned to respect the Constitution, it seems.
Neither of them did.





Time and again we see Democrat/Liberal politicians who are either failures in business....FDR.....or who know nothing about enterprise, creating a political milieu that results in a poor economy.....

Such as this:
" In a stunning Tuesday report, Gallup CEO and Chairman Jim Clifton revealed that “for the first time in 35 years, American business deaths now outnumber business births.”Clifton says for the past six years since 2008, employer business startups have fallen below the business failure rate, spurring what he calls “an underground earthquake” that only stands to worsen as lagging U.S. Census data becomes available.
“Let’s get one thing clear: This economy is never truly coming back unless we reverse the birth and death trends of American businesses,” writes Clifton."
Economic Death Spiral: More American Businesses Dying Than Starting - Breitbart

You left this out:

What I left out was all of your spin, the names of the companies are all there in my post, presented in a factual manner.

FDR was a capitalist who represented wall street interests.His NRA was adapted from the Swope Plan. Gererad Swope was the president of General Electric Company. Glass-Steagall was proposed by Winthrop Aldrich (Chase Bank) and James Perkins (National City Bank), who wanted to weaken Morgan Bank.

This was his modus operandi. He wrote this shortly after becoming the VP Fidelity and Deposit Company of Maryland in 1921.

I am going to take advantage of our old friendship and ask you if you can help me out any [sic] in an effort to get fidelity and contract bonds from the powers that be in Brooklyn.
Franklin D. Roosevelt to Congressman J. A. Maher, March 2, 1922.

These are not the acts of someone who hates successful entrepreneurs, these are the acts of a full fledged capitalist.

Your list was a total fabrication.

It was provided by the congenital liar, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, in a puff piece book edited by his son.


Now....for truth....which is my stock in trade:

1. "A few months before his marriage, Franklin began law school at Columbia University. He attended for two years, never graduated, and displayed neither an aptitude nor a passion for the law. He did pass the bar, though, and worked for a few years at the New York City law firm of Carter, Ledyard, and Milburn. In 1910, however, fellow Democrats from upstate asked Roosevelt to run for political office. He quickly agreed. Although historians are unsure of FDR's precise motives for entering politics, a few reasons seem central. First, FDR truly disliked being a lawyer. Second, he enjoyed meeting new challenges and new people, both of which were integral to political life. Third, politics offered him the opportunity to be a leader, which appealed to his sense of self and conformed to his understanding of his role in the world. Finally, FDR's immense admiration for former President Theodore Roosevelt spurred him to try his hand at politics." Franklin D. Roosevelt: Life Before the Presidency—Miller Center


2. "Franklin studied law at Columbia University Law School and passed the bar exam in 1907, though he didn't receive a degree. For the next three years, he practiced corporate law in New York, living the typical upper-class life. But he found law practice boring and restrictive. He set his sights on greater accomplishments". http://www.biography.com/people/franklin-d-roosevelt-9463381#early-life


3. "FDR resumed his studies at Columbia University Law School, which he had begun in the fall of 1904. He never completed the courses needed to receive an LL.B. degree, but passed the bar examination at the end of three years and began a law practice in New York City. In 1910, FDR won a seat in the New York State Senate."
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1882-1945)


4. "Roosevelt attended law school at Columbia University and worked for several years as a clerk in a Wall Street law firm. In 1910, he entered politics, ...."
Franklin D. Roosevelt - U.S. Presidents - HISTORY.com



Now....where do you see references to a sparking career in business...marked with successful endeavors?????

Where????


No where...."worked for several years as a clerk"....then became, excuse the expression, a politician.
His talent....his only talent....was smiling and shaking hands.


Roosevelt was a poor student, a failure in business, and a mistake as a politician.

God help America, when there are so many easily fooled like you.

Now....where do you see references to a sparking career in business...marked with successful endeavors?????

Where????

My intent is not to portray FDR as a master of business, it is merely to show that he was a capitalist "of some success" who represented wall street interests. Once we can get past your falsely created narrative of FDR as someone who hated business we can then begin to dissect the rest of your bs. You start with a false premise which naturally leads you to false conclusions.