Sandra Fluke Officially Working With Obama

[ConservaDerrps]

And the sanctimonious bitch should mention that she was not woman enough to accept Rush's apology. But she won't!

It wasn't an apology. Why should she accept something that was forced from him after he started losing sponsors.

He called her a slut, wanted to see videos, and said her parents must be ashamed.

C'mon. I would tell him to go jump off the nearest cliff.

Another fool who doesn't know what he/she is talking about. And, check the link if you dare.

Limbaugh — who has a long history of making incendiary remarks, and is not known to take them back — issued the rare apology on Saturday afternoon, saying he was "sincerely" sorry about his "insulting" characterization of Fluke.

Rush Limbaugh Apologizes To Sandra Fluke For Calling Her A 'Slut'

Welp. That settles it. Rush Limbaugh is a great guy.

 

[Too Tall]

Again, why birth control and not any of the other things i pay for but will never use?

I have singled out birth control because of religious views. Millions of people have religious views that they hold deeply, and that does not comport with participating in a plan that covers birth control. And prior to obama's arrival they were free to exercise those beliefs, as was every American.

I don't think there should be a restriction on what an individual includes in his policy.

Off the top of my head

Check ups, shots for children, screenings for diffrent types of cancer, counseling for domestic violence...

As you said, individuals who have religious issues are free to not purchase the employer insurance. However we have a separation of church and state, which means in part that we don't allow someone's religion to dictate national medical issues. A panel of medical experts decided birth control should be added to the list of "preventable medicine", and preventable medicine is what is mandated.

Insurance companies should be able to offer policies that eliminate the cost of shots for children coverage for single people and those couples that don't have children.

And, you got it backwards on who gets to mandate coverage. A panel of medical experts working for the government are, in effect establishing a religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof since at least one church does not approve of providing birth control.

Would you approve of a government panel of nutritional experts mandating that all Muslim churches require all of their members add pork to their diets, or be fined or penalized? I wouldn't.

 

[ConservaDerrps]

I have singled out birth control because of religious views. Millions of people have religious views that they hold deeply, and that does not comport with participating in a plan that covers birth control. And prior to obama's arrival they were free to exercise those beliefs, as was every American.

I don't think there should be a restriction on what an individual includes in his policy.

Off the top of my head

Check ups, shots for children, screenings for diffrent types of cancer, counseling for domestic violence...

As you said, individuals who have religious issues are free to not purchase the employeer insurance. However we have a separation of church and state, which means in part that we don't allow someone's religion to dictate national medical issues. A panel of medical experts decided birth control should be added to the list of "preventable medicine", and preventable medicine is what is mandated.

There is no separation of church and state....that is a myth invented by the left......especially when you see what's going on in black churches.

lawlz.

 

[Too Tall]

It wasn't an apology. Why should she accept something that was forced from him after he started losing sponsors.

He called her a slut, wanted to see videos, and said her parents must be ashamed.

C'mon. I would tell him to go jump off the nearest cliff.

Another fool who doesn't know what he/she is talking about. And, check the link if you dare.

Limbaugh — who has a long history of making incendiary remarks, and is not known to take them back — issued the rare apology on Saturday afternoon, saying he was "sincerely" sorry about his "insulting" characterization of Fluke.

Rush Limbaugh Apologizes To Sandra Fluke For Calling Her A 'Slut'

Welp. That settles it. Rush Limbaugh is a great guy.

I didn't say that, and he was way over the line with his comments, but Sandra Fluke is a low class bitch for not accepting his sincere apology.

 

[AmyNation]

I have singled out birth control because of religious views. Millions of people have religious views that they hold deeply, and that does not comport with participating in a plan that covers birth control. And prior to obama's arrival they were free to exercise those beliefs, as was every American.

I don't think there should be a restriction on what an individual includes in his policy.

Off the top of my head

Check ups, shots for children, screenings for diffrent types of cancer, counseling for domestic violence...

As you said, individuals who have religious issues are free to not purchase the employeer insurance. However we have a separation of church and state, which means in part that we don't allow someone's religion to dictate national medical issues. A panel of medical experts decided birth control should be added to the list of "preventable medicine", and preventable medicine is what is mandated.

Insurance companies should be able to offer policies that eliminate the cost of shots for children coverage for single people and those that don't have children.

And, you got it backwards on who gets to mandate coverage. A panel of medical experts working for the government are, in effect establishing a religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof since at least one church does not approve of providing birth control.

Would you approve of a government panel of nutritional experts mandating that all Muslim churches require all of their members add pork to their diets, or be fined or penalized? I wouldn't.

Churches are exempt from the mandate.

Also, no one is forcing you to use birth control, and no one is forcing you to buy birth control.

I think the argument of tailoring insurance to the person sounds reasonable, why am I paying for prostrate screens? However it's not practical in an employeer setting.

 

[DiamondDave]

Off the top of my head

Check ups, shots for children, screenings for diffrent types of cancer, counseling for domestic violence...

As you said, individuals who have religious issues are free to not purchase the employeer insurance. However we have a separation of church and state, which means in part that we don't allow someone's religion to dictate national medical issues. A panel of medical experts decided birth control should be added to the list of "preventable medicine", and preventable medicine is what is mandated.

Insurance companies should be able to offer policies that eliminate the cost of shots for children coverage for single people and those that don't have children.

And, you got it backwards on who gets to mandate coverage. A panel of medical experts working for the government are, in effect establishing a religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof since at least one church does not approve of providing birth control.

Would you approve of a government panel of nutritional experts mandating that all Muslim churches require all of their members add pork to their diets, or be fined or penalized? I wouldn't.

Churches are exempt from the mandate.

Also, no one is forcing you to use birth control, and no one is forcing you to buy birth control.

I think the argument of tailoring insurance to the person sounds reasonable, why am I paying for prostrate screens? However it's not practical in an employeer setting.

And therein lies one of the problems that has to be fixed.. But no, Obamalama and the uber lefties want to go for mandated coverage, forcing an employer to provide payment towards something that it would be against, etc...

Open up the trade and loosen the regulations so that individuals would have more choices... get in on a group policy with your HOA, with your local Moose club, with a grouping of people who belong to Costco, with whatever group you can think of... more competition drives down the prices and opens up the options

 

[Wolfsister77]

That is because you are a liberal.

Ed Schultz called radio talk show host Laura Ingraham a "right wing slut" on his MSNBC program and she was woman enough to accept his apology.

There are women with class, and there are women who are assholes.

Same goes to men too and Rush is a major asshole. He didn't apologize. Ed Schultz was right to apologize and Laura Ingraham was right to accept. Rush's apology was no apology. He wasn't sorry.

You are not very bright are you!

Limbaugh — who has a long history of making incendiary remarks, and is not known to take them back — issued the rare apology on Saturday afternoon, saying he was "sincerely" sorry about his "insulting" characterization of Fluke.

Rush Limbaugh Apologizes To Sandra Fluke For Calling Her A 'Slut'

It wasn't an apology. It was crap he said because his sponsors were leaving. There is a difference.

 

[Wolfsister77]

And the sanctimonious bitch should mention that she was not woman enough to accept Rush's apology. But she won't!

It wasn't an apology. Why should she accept something that was forced from him after he started losing sponsors.

He called her a slut, wanted to see videos, and said her parents must be ashamed.

C'mon. I would tell him to go jump off the nearest cliff.

Another fool who doesn't know what he/she is talking about. And, check the link if you dare.

Limbaugh — who has a long history of making incendiary remarks, and is not known to take them back — issued the rare apology on Saturday afternoon, saying he was "sincerely" sorry about his "insulting" characterization of Fluke.

Rush Limbaugh Apologizes To Sandra Fluke For Calling Her A 'Slut'

I've read all the information on this and there is a difference between a sincere apology and just saying crap because you have to because you are losing business-it was why she didn't accept it.

Not that difficult.

 

[DiamondDave]

It wasn't an apology. Why should she accept something that was forced from him after he started losing sponsors.

He called her a slut, wanted to see videos, and said her parents must be ashamed.

C'mon. I would tell him to go jump off the nearest cliff.

Another fool who doesn't know what he/she is talking about. And, check the link if you dare.

Limbaugh — who has a long history of making incendiary remarks, and is not known to take them back — issued the rare apology on Saturday afternoon, saying he was "sincerely" sorry about his "insulting" characterization of Fluke.

Rush Limbaugh Apologizes To Sandra Fluke For Calling Her A 'Slut'

I've read all the information on this and there is a difference between a sincere apology and just saying crap because you have to because you are losing business-it was why she didn't accept it.

Not that difficult.

Well.. there it is.. the sincerity judge has spoken

 

[AmyNation]

I do not think the ACA is the cure for all our issues, however I'm willing to give it a shot and hope its a step in the right direction.


Also, just to clarify mandated coverage is not an "Obama thing". There was a list of mandates that the government insists be covered long before Obama came around. All he did was follow the advice of medical experts and add to that list, one of the things he added was birth control.

Insurance companies should be able to offer policies that eliminate the cost of shots for children coverage for single people and those that don't have children.

And, you got it backwards on who gets to mandate coverage. A panel of medical experts working for the government are, in effect establishing a religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof since at least one church does not approve of providing birth control.

Would you approve of a government panel of nutritional experts mandating that all Muslim churches require all of their members add pork to their diets, or be fined or penalized? I wouldn't.

Churches are exempt from the mandate.

Also, no one is forcing you to use birth control, and no one is forcing you to buy birth control.

I think the argument of tailoring insurance to the person sounds reasonable, why am I paying for prostrate screens? However it's not practical in an employeer setting.

And therein lies one of the problems that has to be fixed.. But no, Obamalama and the uber lefties want to go for mandated coverage, forcing an employer to provide payment towards something that it would be against, etc...

Open up the trade and loosen the regulations so that individuals would have more choices... get in on a group policy with your HOA, with your local Moose club, with a grouping of people who belong to Costco, with whatever group you can think of... more competition drives down the prices and opens up the options

 

[Too Tall]

Off the top of my head

Check ups, shots for children, screenings for diffrent types of cancer, counseling for domestic violence...

As you said, individuals who have religious issues are free to not purchase the employeer insurance. However we have a separation of church and state, which means in part that we don't allow someone's religion to dictate national medical issues. A panel of medical experts decided birth control should be added to the list of "preventable medicine", and preventable medicine is what is mandated.

Insurance companies should be able to offer policies that eliminate the cost of shots for children coverage for single people and those that don't have children.

And, you got it backwards on who gets to mandate coverage. A panel of medical experts working for the government are, in effect establishing a religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof since at least one church does not approve of providing birth control.

Would you approve of a government panel of nutritional experts mandating that all Muslim churches require all of their members add pork to their diets, or be fined or penalized? I wouldn't.

Churches are exempt from the mandate.

Also, no one is forcing you to use birth control, and no one is forcing you to buy birth control.

I think the argument of tailoring insurance to the person sounds reasonable, why am I paying for prostrate screens? However it's not practical in an employer setting.

Catholic Hospitals and charities aren't exempt, and that is the point. I am not Catholic and don't have a dog in this fight, but government unfunded mandates piss me off.

I also agree, as I previously stated, that exceptions for items that no one will ever need should be available in a health insurance policy. I disagree that it is not practical in an employer setting. This is the 21st century and the present technology is available to exempt EVERY woman from having to pay for prostate screenings.

That would be a start.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Being part of society means I have to pay for your personal responsibilities and not just mine??

No... sorry...

I'll chose freedom over force

Being part of society SHOULD make you able to see that we all benefit when population controls are in place.

Then again, you're not that bright.

We would all benefit from lots of thing.. but we PERSONALLY benefit... hell, why not free mandated sex? Why not computers for all? Why not free Tylenol for all?

God, you are dense

I actually agree with his contention that population control should be used to control the chronically out-of-control. I'd start with mandatory implantation of all girls living in households receiving any kind of public assistance as soon as each girl reaches puberty. Mandatory application of implanted birth control could be curtailed once said child proves that she can support any children she might bear without further public assistance. Should a girl enrolled in this mandatory program produce offspring despite birth control, or should she demand an abortion, then permanent sterilization (birth control) will be mandated and enforced.
I'm not sure what would work with boys, unless there is some version of implanted birth control for them. Maybe if we cut a small slit in their ballsack and tuck that little dick into it and sew it shut until they can prove responsible enough to raise a child.
If nothing else, the race of welfare queens and their babies' daddies will die off in a generation, or two.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Another fool who doesn't know what he/she is talking about. And, check the link if you dare.



Rush Limbaugh Apologizes To Sandra Fluke For Calling Her A 'Slut'

Welp. That settles it. Rush Limbaugh is a great guy.

I didn't say that, and he was way over the line with his comments, but Sandra Fluke is a low class bitch for not accepting his sincere apology.

Even if she'd accepted his apology, she would still be a self-centered, selfish, low-class bitch.

 

[jillian]

Welp. That settles it. Rush Limbaugh is a great guy.

I didn't say that, and he was way over the line with his comments, but Sandra Fluke is a low class bitch for not accepting his sincere apology.

Even if she'd accepted his apology, she would still be a self-centered, selfish, low-class bitch.

based on what? other than your obvious misogyny?

 

[Valerie]

I didn't say that, and he was way over the line with his comments, but Sandra Fluke is a low class bitch for not accepting his sincere apology.

Even if she'd accepted his apology, she would still be a self-centered, selfish, low-class bitch.

based on what? other than your obvious misogyny?

Oh come on now, he is clearly such a GALLANT warrior!

 

[daveman]

How stupid can you get....

Who here does not pay a dime towards their own health insurance? If I hel;p pay for my health insurance then I should get a say in what coverage I get, and women should have health care coverage for reproductive services....

Why should us women have to pay for vasectomies for men? It's not my vasectomy....but I still have to help pay for it....

Why should women have to pay for Viagra for men....? I don't get to take it, I don't get the hardon, I don't get the pleasure for some other guy's viagra?

Why should I have to pay for someone else's Diabetics medicine? I don't have the disease.....? Why should I pay for another woman's baby....I've never had a baby, why should my insurance costs include these?

I don't have heart trouble, why should I have to pay for someone elses heart attack?


blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and blah....


What a bunch of bunk

Do you object to, say, dog fighting?

Should you be forced to underwrite that?

I'm going to assume you said "no".

Okay -- so why should a company be forced to underwrite actions it views as morally objectionable?

Most women on birth control are married...why would it be morally objectionable?

You'll have to ask a Catholic about that.

btw....this isn't about one school, who DOES offer it on their health care policies for their workers btw....how can they provide it on the one hand for their workers and then claim religious reasons for not providing it on the other? and if the school IS NOT paying for the group health care plan for the students, and the students are paying for it....why should the school be able to dictate this? that's my main problem with it, the students are paying for their own health care and the workers in the school have their own policy that does include reproductive services/birth control. Seems to me the employer has no religious grounds to stand on....in addition to this Catholic charities which includes the schools, receives 50% of their money from the tax payers of this Nation, so even if the school had claimed to be paying for it, they truly are not paying for it in full, the tax payer would have been paying 50% of it and the tax payer includes these students and their parents income as well... I don't think the Catholic charities has the right to dictate their beliefs in a secular school....this is a school that accepts all students from any faith or non faith, a school that receives tax payer's money, atheist, christian, jew, hindu, wiccans, agnostics....that is money from every one and every faith....they should not be able to ask for a religious exemption under those circumstances.

If this were the Catholic Church and we were talking about their employees who actually work for the Parish, in the church, paid for with the Catholic churches money from their own parishioners of the church itself, then I would support their reason of it being for religious reasons that they are asking for the exemption and the ACA already allows them the exemption.

but that is not what we are talking about, we are talking about Catholic charities, not the catholic church, and we are talking about a secular school who accepts all faiths or non faiths in to the school....which is also receiving tax monies and is not some private seminary.

Fluke has been less than honest.

Georgetown University will not offer student contraception coverage :: Catholic News Agency (CNA)

In an April 16 letter, more than 100 students and alumni had called on President DeGioia to clarify the Jesuit university’s position on the controversial issue.

The letter came in the wake of a campus event at which Fluke promoted free contraception access. Its signers objected to the fact that the event did not also include a speaker presenting the Church’s teaching on the subject, an omission that they said may lead students to draw inaccurate conclusions.

DeGioia did not reference this letter in his email but did explain that he wanted to clarify the university’s position on the subject and clear up misconceptions about its current coverage.

He explained that while the student plan “does not cover prescription contraceptives for birth control,” it does cover them “for health reasons unrelated to birth control, as determined by a physician.”

During her testimony, Fluke had complained of consequences suffered by women who were denied the contraception they needed for medical purposes.​

 

[daveman]

You have to pay for my choices, because I have to pay for yours. It's how insurance works. It's how paying taxes works. We don't get handed a menu of services. We pay the bill. If you're okay with getting preferential treatment over women, that's fine, Lameman. Just admit it and be proud.

Since my insurance provider covers contraception, I'm really not seeing how I get preferential treatment.

But even when we were struggling the hardest financially, we could have sprung for 9 bucks a month.

Glad that "you" now means "everyone."

You were talking to me and used the word "you".

So, naturally, you NOW claim to have been speaking generally.

 

[daveman]

Sure, I can answer that.

Because you're asking the question based on a false presumption that all "bedroom intrusion" is equal. It's not. When progressives say we want the government out of our bedrooms, we're asking that they not legislate what can or can't be done between two consenting adults. You know, like not passing laws making blowjobs illegal, or two dudes fucking illegal, etc.

The birth control policy isn't about sexual activity. It's about health. It's about not having unlimited resources to take care of every baby ever born. It's kind of sad that in 2012 we're still having to convince old, white people that birth control is a good thing. Unwanted pregnancies lead to overpopulation and more welfare babies. Also, more babies in orphanages, etc.

It's both silly and impractical to say "just stop fucking" as a means of controlling population. Population control is a very real and very necessary means to keep your country from things like massive famine, and outbreaks of disease.

In short, making sure that women have no reason to not at least have birth control as an option makes sense for EVRYONE. Making sure two dudes who like to fuck each other can't get married only makes sense for the people who believe in fairy tale mythologies about invisible forces guiding their destiny.

Does that answer your question, fuck nut? Of course it does, but you'll sputter some bullshit response. And I will know I won.

Uh huh. So you don't mind the government in your bedroom, as long as they're paying for the activities.

Interesting way of attempting to explain they hypocrisy.

Who said anything about them paying for people fucking? We'd be paying, through our insurance companies, for each other's fucking if anything.

Logic fail, Davey. Logic Fail.

As Care explained, Georgetown receives government money. Therefore, its insurance coverage is partially funded by the government.

Now THAT'S logic.

 

[DiamondDave]

I do not think the ACA is the cure for all our issues, however I'm willing to give it a shot and hope its a step in the right direction.


Also, just to clarify mandated coverage is not an "Obama thing". There was a list of mandates that the government insists be covered long before Obama came around. All he did was follow the advice of medical experts and add to that list, one of the things he added was birth control.

Churches are exempt from the mandate.

Also, no one is forcing you to use birth control, and no one is forcing you to buy birth control.

I think the argument of tailoring insurance to the person sounds reasonable, why am I paying for prostrate screens? However it's not practical in an employeer setting.

And therein lies one of the problems that has to be fixed.. But no, Obamalama and the uber lefties want to go for mandated coverage, forcing an employer to provide payment towards something that it would be against, etc...

Open up the trade and loosen the regulations so that individuals would have more choices... get in on a group policy with your HOA, with your local Moose club, with a grouping of people who belong to Costco, with whatever group you can think of... more competition drives down the prices and opens up the options

Experts forgot one thing... it is not government's job... and it is indeed Obama that did this.. this step and program did not exist until him..

 

[Pho_King]

I do not think the ACA is the cure for all our issues, however I'm willing to give it a shot and hope its a step in the right direction.


Also, just to clarify mandated coverage is not an "Obama thing". There was a list of mandates that the government insists be covered long before Obama came around. All he did was follow the advice of medical experts and add to that list, one of the things he added was birth control.

Churches are exempt from the mandate.

Also, no one is forcing you to use birth control, and no one is forcing you to buy birth control.

I think the argument of tailoring insurance to the person sounds reasonable, why am I paying for prostrate screens? However it's not practical in an employeer setting.

And therein lies one of the problems that has to be fixed.. But no, Obamalama and the uber lefties want to go for mandated coverage, forcing an employer to provide payment towards something that it would be against, etc...

Open up the trade and loosen the regulations so that individuals would have more choices... get in on a group policy with your HOA, with your local Moose club, with a grouping of people who belong to Costco, with whatever group you can think of... more competition drives down the prices and opens up the options

Yes. Before Obama one could be a devout catholic, exercise those beliefs while hurting no one, and purchase insurance that does not cover birth control.