Sandy Hook A Hoax?...

[Huskyfan68]

OK I'm new here but just have one question....... if Sandy Hook is somehow a hoax (in whatever way- )- What happened to these kids? Did these children not get murdered? if they did not- where are they?

 

[Capstone]

OK I'm new here but just have one question....... if Sandy Hook is somehow a hoax (in whatever way- )- What happened to these kids? Did these children not get murdered? if they did not- where are they?

I think the general consensus among advocates of this conspiracy theory has evolved away from the notion that the reported victims weren't actually killed.

 

[paulitician]

There's no real proof either way. All we have to go on, is Big Brother & Idiot Box disinformation. No one here on this Board can prove anything either way. And that's the way it's supposed to be.

 

[Capstone]

There's no real proof either way. All we have to go on, is Big Brother & Idiot Box disinformation. No one here on this Board can prove anything either way. And that's the way it's supposed to be.

Proof is an elusive animal in any case; but the fewer the aspects in need of evidential support, the better.

Ever heard of Occam's Razor?

The less 'elaborate' the hypothesis, the more plausible it is at base level.

In order to believe that the deaths of any or all of the victims didn't really happen, one would have to buy into the planners' capacity and desire to subvert the knowledge of MANY more people related to (or any way acquainted with) the victims in question, when simply carrying out the killings and framing a kid with a history of psychosocial issues would not only be easier, it would also lend an air of reality/credibility to the operation, all while calling for much less damage control in the aftermath.

 

[LibertyLemming]

The Government would never lie to the people in order to achieve something they couldn't get done via the ballot.

 

[paulitician]

The Government would never lie to the people in order to achieve something they couldn't get done via the ballot.

 

[paulitician]

Uh oh, looks like their Reichstag Fire moment is being extinguished. The People are fighting back. The Dictator is losing. Score one for the People...


Govt Insider: Obama Livid; 2nd Amendment, Liberty & the American People Have Won Today

The government insider from the Ulsterman Report is sharing some heartwarming information this evening, the American people have spoken and Barack Obama has been forced to listen. Due to the immense heat put upon the gun ban initiative, Barack Obama was forced to change his speech and presentation, a clear victory for the 2nd Amendment and America. From The Ulsterman Report.:

Like me you were probably watching the president’s gun control speech today. Was told this morning the presentation today was a revised version that was completed just last night after a bunch of back and forth between the White House and Senate leaders. Guessing that would be Harry Reid mostly. Last week the president was ready to go all in on the executive order scenario. Confiscation was going to be in play. Then the backlash came and it forced Obama to back off. He didn’t want to but after Reid said it was a no go, and the NRA was preparing to go to war with the White House, the president was given a revised script and that is what we heard this morning. You could tell too. Obama stumbled over the words more than usual. He didn’t have the time to prep the script like he normally does. Probably fuming he was forced to read the new version also.

This time WE WON and OBAMA LOST.

If people want to know how to go at the administration, this is how you do it. Be informed, and make your voices heard. This is an example of how the new media I have been telling you about can work against the globalists. It can be a huge weapon against them. And a big thank you to the NRA. It took on Obama and didn’t back off. A big part of the plan coming from the White House was to cripple the NRA and make it a liability for 2014 and beyond. That didn’t work and it will be a liability, but one that is going to hurt Democrats, not conservatives...

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[LibertyLemming]

You are awfully hopeful based on some speculation. I'm pretty sure we are fucked and have been fucked for well over 100 years

 

[paulitician]

You are awfully hopeful based on some speculation. I'm pretty sure we are fucked and have been fucked for well over 100 years

I always try to stay hopeful. But i hear ya.

 

[SFC Ollie]

The Government would never lie to the people in order to achieve something they couldn't get done via the ballot.

 

[LibertyLemming]

The Government would never lie to the people in order to achieve something they couldn't get done via the ballot.

Well there was 2 Gulf of Tonkin incidents. The second one being completely fabricated. Yes, the Maddox was attacked, but it fired the first shots so what do you expect?

 

[Capstone]

From here:

15. Gulf of Tonkin Never Happened:

The Gulf of Tonkin Incident is the name given to two separate incidents involving the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the United States in the waters of the Gulf of Tonkin. On August 2, 1964 two American destroyers engaged three North Vietnamese torpedo boats, resulting in the sinking of one of the torpedo boats. This was also the single most important reason for the escalation of the Vietnam War.

After Kennedy was assassinated, the Gulf of Tonkin gave the country the sweeping support for aggressive military action against the North Vietnamese. The outcome of the incident was the passage by Congress of the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which granted President Lyndon B. Johnson the authority to assist any Southeast Asian country whose government was considered to be jeopardized by “communist aggression”.

In 2005, an internal National Security Agency historical study was declassified; it concluded that USS Maddox had engaged the North Vietnamese on August 2, but that there may not have been any North Vietnamese vessels present during the engagement of August 4. The report stated “It is not simply that there is a different story as to what happened; it is that no attack happened that night…” In truth, Hanoi’s navy was engaged in nothing that night but the salvage of two of the boats damaged on August 2.

In 1965, President Johnson commented privately: “For all I know, our Navy was shooting at whales out there.” In 1981, Captain Herrick and journalist Robert Scheer re-examined Herrick’s ship’s log and determined that the first torpedo report from August 4, which Herrick had maintained had occurred—the “apparent ambush”—was in fact unfounded.

In 1995, retired Vietnamese Defense Minister Vo Nguyen Giap, meeting with former Secretary of Defense McNamara, categorically denied that Vietnamese gunboats had attacked American destroyers on August 4, while admitting to the attack on August 2.

In the Fall of 1999, retired senior CIA engineering executive S. Eugene Poteat wrote that he was asked in early August 1964 to determine if the radar operator’s report showed a real torpedo boat attack or an imagined one. In October, 2005 the New York Times reported that Robert J. Hanyok, a historian for the U.S. National Security Agency, had concluded that the NSA deliberately distorted the intelligence reports that it had passed on to policy-makers regarding the August 4, 1964 incident. He concluded that the motive was not political but was probably to cover up honest intelligence errors.

Look at 1:26 on the following video:

 

[LibertyLemming]

Basically waht I said

 

[daws101]

OK I'm new here but just have one question....... if Sandy Hook is somehow a hoax (in whatever way- )- What happened to these kids? Did these children not get murdered? if they did not- where are they?

I think the general consensus among advocates of this conspiracy theory has evolved away from the notion that the reported victims weren't actually killed.

evolved away?
CYA IS MORE LIKE IT!

 

[SFC Ollie]

Reading the actual messages that were sent in that time period which were recently declassified, Or released as cleansed, It is possible that some of the messages that many take as a 2nd attack on the 4th were actually follow up reports of the incident on the 2nd... Regardless it has nothing to do with Sandy Hook 50 years later.........

 

[LibertyLemming]

Reading the actual messages that were sent in that time period which were recently declassified, Or released as cleansed, It is possible that some of the messages that many take as a 2nd attack on the 4th were actually follow up reports of the incident on the 2nd... Regardless it has nothing to do with Sandy Hook 50 years later.........

Well, it just shows, and this is hardly the first time the government made something up to achieve a goal, that the government is willing to kill its own people/lie to its own people, in order to achieve a goal. Kind of fitting on a thread that is claiming Sandy Hook is a hoax.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Embellishing an actual incident vs murdering 20 children? Really? Go back to your dream world....

 

[LibertyLemming]

Embellishing an actual incident vs murdering 20 children? Really? Go back to your dream world....

as opposed to embellishing WMDs in Iraq and killing, some human rights groups say, over a million people? Go back to YOUR dream world.

 

[daws101]

Embellishing an actual incident vs murdering 20 children? Really? Go back to your dream world....

as opposed to embellishing WMDs in Iraq and killing, some human rights groups say, over a million people? Go back to YOUR dream world.

how twisted do you have to be?

 

[LibertyLemming]

Embellishing an actual incident vs murdering 20 children? Really? Go back to your dream world....

as opposed to embellishing WMDs in Iraq and killing, some human rights groups say, over a million people? Go back to YOUR dream world.

how twisted do you have to be?

what does that mean?