Should Darrell Issa face consequences for Benghazi BS?

[PaintMyHouse]

Wait for Trey Gowdy's committee...

Wait for what, there is no there there. Mistake were made, including by Stevens himself, and people died. For the love of God grow up and move on.

 

[Stephanie]

I'm not sure how much all of his tomfoolery cost the American taxpayers, or how many lies he told, but surely these are substantial in number.

Should Issa face fraud charges? Should he help chip in on paying back the millions wasted?

Republicans are always talking up personal responsibility. Will they follow through on the rhetoric in Issa's case?

Not much you can do.

They won't even pay for it in the 2016 election.

The same reason nobody cares about the "scandal", besides Fox News viewers, is the same reason it won't count against the GOP.

right it's just fox new viewers. we see none of you care how much Obama and his party lies, cover ups and just STEAMROLLS over ALL the people in the country not just Fox news viewers. that is why this government now feels it can do anything it want to us

 

[2aguy]

Yeah, why was he there.....was he selling weapons to the rebels in Syria...seems to me the libs hated when the Reaganites did that....

 

[Oldstyle]

My budget will cut the deficit by $4 Trillion over 10 years.

Here is a perfect example of the crap that you are throwing up against the wall - we cannot know if this were true or not yet - IT HASN'T EVEN BEEN TEN YEARS!!!

Then that's a perfect example of someone telling a lie, you idiot! Obama is claiming something to be a fact when it isn't factual at all. Duh?

 

[2aguy]

here is a look at the report...

20 Ways Media Completely Misread Congress Weak-Sauce Benghazi Report

 

[Impenitent]

I'm not sure how much all of his tomfoolery cost the American taxpayers, or how many lies he told, but surely these are substantial in number.

Should Issa face fraud charges? Should he help chip in on paying back the millions wasted?

Republicans are always talking up personal responsibility. Will they follow through on the rhetoric in Issa's case?

That's rich. Issa was the investigator, not the perpetrator.

In Congressional investigations, as it was in the Massachusetts and Connecticut witch trials, there is a great advantage in being the accuser, as opposed to being the accused. Over 30 of the accused were executed, and many more died in prison, but there is no record of any of the judges or prosecutors being punished.

But the early witch trials had mass hysteria on their side, which we know could never happen again.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

My budget will cut the deficit by $4 Trillion over 10 years.

Here is a perfect example of the crap that you are throwing up against the wall - we cannot know if this were true or not yet - IT HASN'T EVEN BEEN TEN YEARS!!!

Then that's a perfect example of someone telling a lie, you idiot! Obama is claiming something to be a fact when it isn't factual at all. Duh?

How was it a lie? It has NOT been ten years, yet. You cannot know that he "lied."

Even if it fell short and we did not reach or even approach this number, how is that a lie? It isn't - It's called being wrong.

"If you think policymakers haven’t done much about budget deficits since President Obama’s deficit commission co-chairs Erskine Bowles and Alan Simpson issued their "Moment of Truth" report in late 2010, consider this: Projected ten-year budget deficits over the 2015-2024 decade have shrunk by nearly $5 trillion, mostly because policymakers have changed spending and tax policies.

It hasn’t been pretty, it hasn’t always been smart and there’s more to do. But the budget outlook is substantially improved, as documented in this new analysis by my Center on Budget and Policy Priorities colleagues Richard Kogan and William Chen (see this interactive graphic). The 2011 Budget Control Act is the most significant of four major pieces of deficit-reduction legislation that together produced $4.1 trillion of budget savings. Policymakers enacted the Budget Control Act in August 2011 following the risky showdown between President Obama and Congressional Republicans over raising the debt ceiling. It put “caps” on discretionary (non-entitlement) spending. It also created a special congressional committee to find more budget savings under threat of automatic across-the-board spending cuts, known as sequestration, if the committee failed to do so. The committee failed, triggering sequestration beginning in 2013.

Sequestration was scheduled to take effect at the same time as a number of tax cuts and emergency spending measures were scheduled to expire, creating the “fiscal cliff” at the end of 2012. Given policymakers’ past behavior, budget analysts crafted “realistic” budget baseline projections which assumed that policymakers would continue most of the expiring measures. Policymakers, they assumed, certainly wouldn’t allow the sizable blow to the economy from allowing all fiscal cliff provisions to expire at once, notwithstanding the substantial long-run deficit reduction it would achieve.


At the last minute, President Obama and Congress reached an agreement that postponed sequestration for two months and extended most expiring provisions but allowed about 18 percent of the Bush-era tax cuts — for those at the top — to expire. That agreement produced 10-year budget savings (2015 to 2024) of over $900 billion...."

Budget Deficits Are Dropping By Trillions of Dollars - US News

 

[Oldstyle]

My budget will cut the deficit by $4 Trillion over 10 years.

Here is a perfect example of the crap that you are throwing up against the wall - we cannot know if this were true or not yet - IT HASN'T EVEN BEEN TEN YEARS!!!

Then that's a perfect example of someone telling a lie, you idiot! Obama is claiming something to be a fact when it isn't factual at all. Duh?

How was it a lie? It has NOT been ten years, yet? You cannot know that he lied.

Even if it fell short and we did not reach or even approach this number, how is that a lie? It isn't - It's called being wrong.

When you claim something as a fact that you have no idea if it is indeed a fact...then you are lying.
The fact that ten years hasn't passed yet doesn't change that fact.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Stop And Smell The Roses: Final 2014 Federal Deficit Fell...Big Time


The final numbers for 2014 announced yesterday by the U.S. Treasury show the federal deficit for the fiscal year that just ended did indeed fall as precipitously as I previously reported. As the reportshows, the actual 2014 deficit was $483 billion, $3 billion less than what the Congressional Budget Office estimated a week ago.



For the record, $483 billion is $197 billion below the almost $680 billion deficit recorded in 2013. It’s also $930 billion, that is, close to $1 trillion, less than the largely recession-caused $1.4 trillion deficit in 2009. (Attention trolls: the Congressional Budget Office projected in early 2009, that is, before the start of the Obama administration, that, because of the recession, the deficit that year would be $1.2 trillion.)

In dollar terms, 2014 was the lowest federal deficit since 2008. And in the category most important to economists – the deficit as a percent of Gross Domestic Product – the 2014 deficit was 2.8 percent of GDP, the smallest since 2007.

There are several ways to look at this.

If you’re a troll, you refuse to celebrate the extraordinary reduction in the federal deficit that has happened in such a short time. The only comparable period in U.S. history was immediately after World War II when the budget went from a 29 percent of GDP deficit in 1943 to small surpluses in 1947-49.

Stop And Smell The Roses Final 2014 Federal Deficit Fell...Big Time - Forbes

 

[Oldstyle]

Those are just the blatant lies that Obama told...it's not even going into all of the misleading statements to the American people that he's made. He'll back load some of the major costs of the ACA years down the road so that he can point to "savings" that the plan will supposedly provide in the next few. It was always a shell game with him...something that Jonathon Gruber's videos illustrate so well.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

 

[The Rabbi]

Note the deficit is still higher than pre-recession levels.
Thanks, Obama!

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Those are just the blatant lies that Obama told...it's not even going into all of the misleading statements to the American people that he's made. He'll back load some of the major costs of the ACA years down the road so that he can point to "savings" that the plan will supposedly provide in the next few. It was always a shell game with him...something that Jonathon Gruber's videos illustrate so well.

That would be your opinion along with an out and out guess.

 

[Oldstyle]

Stop And Smell The Roses: Final 2014 Federal Deficit Fell...Big Time


The final numbers for 2014 announced yesterday by the U.S. Treasury show the federal deficit for the fiscal year that just ended did indeed fall as precipitously as I previously reported. As the reportshows, the actual 2014 deficit was $483 billion, $3 billion less than what the Congressional Budget Office estimated a week ago.



For the record, $483 billion is $197 billion below the almost $680 billion deficit recorded in 2013. It’s also $930 billion, that is, close to $1 trillion, less than the largely recession-caused $1.4 trillion deficit in 2009. (Attention trolls: the Congressional Budget Office projected in early 2009, that is, before the start of the Obama administration, that, because of the recession, the deficit that year would be $1.2 trillion.)

In dollar terms, 2014 was the lowest federal deficit since 2008. And in the category most important to economists – the deficit as a percent of Gross Domestic Product – the 2014 deficit was 2.8 percent of GDP, the smallest since 2007.

There are several ways to look at this.

If you’re a troll, you refuse to celebrate the extraordinary reduction in the federal deficit that has happened in such a short time. The only comparable period in U.S. history was immediately after World War II when the budget went from a 29 percent of GDP deficit in 1943 to small surpluses in 1947-49.

Stop And Smell The Roses Final 2014 Federal Deficit Fell...Big Time - Forbes

What's laughable about that claim, Cabbie is that it wasn't Obama's budget that created that reduction...it was the sequester that he blamed the GOP for! So you're going to blame your political opponents for something and then take credit for it in the same breath?

 

[Oldstyle]

Those are just the blatant lies that Obama told...it's not even going into all of the misleading statements to the American people that he's made. He'll back load some of the major costs of the ACA years down the road so that he can point to "savings" that the plan will supposedly provide in the next few. It was always a shell game with him...something that Jonathon Gruber's videos illustrate so well.

That would be your opinion along with an out and out guess.

It's also Jonathon Gruber's opinion, Cabbie.

 

[Two Thumbs]

I'm not sure how much all of his tomfoolery cost the American taxpayers, or how many lies he told, but surely these are substantial in number.

Should Issa face fraud charges? Should he help chip in on paying back the millions wasted?

Republicans are always talking up personal responsibility. Will they follow through on the rhetoric in Issa's case?

since when do you care?

you're if fucking china with your fellow commies

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Note the deficit is still higher than pre-recession levels.
Thanks, Obama!

I'm confused - Obama's budget did not begin until 2009. I realize that you blame everything under the sun on Obama, but do you honestly put 08 squarely upon Obama, when that was still Bush's budget year?

 

[The Rabbi]

Note the deficit is still higher than pre-recession levels.
Thanks, Obama!

I'm confused - Obama's budget did not begin until 2009. I realize that you blame everything under the sun on Obama, but do you honestly put 08 squarely upon Obama, when that was still Bush's budget year?

What does that have to do with anything?
It is a fact that the deficit today is larger than the deficit prior to the recession. That shouldnt happen. Especially since the government has been taking in record high revenue.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Those are just the blatant lies that Obama told...it's not even going into all of the misleading statements to the American people that he's made. He'll back load some of the major costs of the ACA years down the road so that he can point to "savings" that the plan will supposedly provide in the next few. It was always a shell game with him...something that Jonathon Gruber's videos illustrate so well.

That would be your opinion along with an out and out guess.

It's also Jonathon Gruber's opinion, Cabbie.

I could not care less about what Gubber has to say - he's a joke.

I'm asking how this projection ... which has not yet reached the ten year mark ... could be construed as a lie?

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Note the deficit is still higher than pre-recession levels.
Thanks, Obama!

I'm confused - Obama's budget did not begin until 2009. I realize that you blame everything under the sun on Obama, but do you honestly put 08 squarely upon Obama, when that was still Bush's budget year?

What does that have to do with anything?
It is a fact that the deficit today is larger than the deficit prior to the recession. That shouldnt happen. Especially since the government has been taking in record high revenue.

Even though we clearly are making the kind of progress that Obama spoke of?