Single payer healthcare. Another lie by left wing POLITICIANS and their sheep.

[Theowl32]

You can tell the ones that did not watch the video.

 

[progressive hunter]

Once again, those who advocate for a government take over completely ignore or fail to understand basic economics.

Having one source of payment for medical services (otherwise known as a monopoly) will allow government to artificially control prices.

For one to be considered a "doctor" that person must have at least 20 years of formal education. Only the best and brightest qualify to be medical students.

If government has its hands on price controls, tell me who is going to be a doctor? Who is going to sacrifice in that much of their life to make chicken feed?

What did we end up with?

Why is it so hard for some to foresee consequences?

Why is the government controlling prices, making it as cheap as they can a bad thing? For your information, and this is purely applicable to Belgium. Since I don't have those specifics on other countries. There are only 2 directions in my country that requires an entrance exam in order to be allowed to take that route. Doctor and dentist. Those exams have a failure rate of EIGHTY percent. Not joking only one in five who has the aspiration actually is even allowed to become a doctor. Only the top half is allowed to specialize. We still have more doctors per capita then the US. So,it seems to me the facts don't match reality.

the government has never made prices cheaper,,,in fact its well proven that 100% of the time prices increase when government gets involved,,,that being is because you add in the salarys of the gov employees to the over all price as just a starter and then you got the regs that increase it also


so your premise is lacking in reality

I just posted the stats that said otherwise. Find me ONE, only one single statistic that doesn't say that the American healthcare system is more expensive then those in countries with socialized healthcare. I dare you.

for me its more about personal choice than money

You are welcome to your personal choices. But the fact that you are saying that, does mean you admit that the government funding healthcare DOES drive the cost down. Something that you claimed wasn't the case.

I never said that,,,

I just wonder,,,when it comes time to push your system will you be holding the gun to my head or are you one of those chicken shit commies that has someone else do it while you hide at home???

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Why is the government controlling prices, making it as cheap as they can a bad thing? For your information, and this is purely applicable to Belgium. Since I don't have those specifics on other countries. There are only 2 directions in my country that requires an entrance exam in order to be allowed to take that route in college. Doctor and dentist. Those exams have a failure rate of EIGHTY percent. Not joking only one in five who has the aspiration actually is even allowed to become a doctor. Only the top half is allowed to specialize. We still have more doctors per capita then the US. So,it seems to me the facts don't match reality.

I think you have missed the point.

Prices are directly tied to the income of doctors.

A single payer can dictate to doctors what and how much will be paid for services.

How much do your doctors earn on average?

 

[Rustic]

The GOP told us for eight years that they had a better plan. Trump promised us we'd love it.

They were lying. Or ignorant. Or both.

If we end up with Single Payer, the GOP should look in the mirror.

They won't do that, of course.
.

Millions of Americans want nothing to do with any form of socialized medicine...

Yet the majority is for it.

The GOP had better come up with a way to talk them out of it. So far, they're done a miserable job.
.

Lol
The federal government fucks everything up they touch, why the fuck would anyone want anything to do with socialize medicine? Because it’s not about Medicine, is it’s all about control...

As I said, right now the majority is fine with it.

So platitudes and talking points and screaming SOCIALISM won't be enough.

The GOP blew its chance, so here we are.
.

Socialism is a living hell for millions of Americans, Socialism has and always will be an failure... Made obvious because it always has to be forced on people that want nothing to do with it. We are not all in this together.

 

[Rustic]

The GOP told us for eight years that they had a better plan. Trump promised us we'd love it.

They were lying. Or ignorant. Or both.

If we end up with Single Payer, the GOP should look in the mirror.

They won't do that, of course.
.

Millions of Americans want nothing to do with any form of socialized medicine...

Yet the majority is for it.

The GOP had better come up with a way to talk them out of it. So far, they're done a miserable job.
.

Lol
The federal government fucks everything up they touch, why the fuck would anyone want anything to do with socialize medicine? Because it’s not about Medicine, is it’s all about control...

As I said, right now the majority is fine with it.

So platitudes and talking points and screaming SOCIALISM won't be enough.

The GOP blew its chance, so here we are.
.

Socialism is a living hell for millions of Americans, Socialism has and always will be an failure... Made obvious because it always has to be forced on people that want nothing to do with it. We are not all in this together.

 

[Mac1958]

Millions of Americans want nothing to do with any form of socialized medicine...

Yet the majority is for it.

The GOP had better come up with a way to talk them out of it. So far, they're done a miserable job.
.

Lol
The federal government fucks everything up they touch, why the fuck would anyone want anything to do with socialize medicine? Because it’s not about Medicine, is it’s all about control...

As I said, right now the majority is fine with it.

So platitudes and talking points and screaming SOCIALISM won't be enough.

The GOP blew its chance, so here we are.
.

Socialism is a living hell for millions of Americans, Socialism has and always will be an failure... Made obvious because it always has to be forced on people that want nothing to do with it. We are not all in this together.

Okay, well, I'm sure that meme will change the majority's mind.
.

 

[progressive hunter]

Yet the majority is for it.

The GOP had better come up with a way to talk them out of it. So far, they're done a miserable job.
.

Lol
The federal government fucks everything up they touch, why the fuck would anyone want anything to do with socialize medicine? Because it’s not about Medicine, is it’s all about control...

As I said, right now the majority is fine with it.

So platitudes and talking points and screaming SOCIALISM won't be enough.

The GOP blew its chance, so here we are.
.

Socialism is a living hell for millions of Americans, Socialism has and always will be an failure... Made obvious because it always has to be forced on people that want nothing to do with it. We are not all in this together.

Okay, well, I'm sure that meme will change the majority's mind.
.

the majority already know,,,thats why we havent already fallen into that system

 

[g5000]

we dont want a replacement,,,

This idiotic response is exactly why we are going to end up with single payer healthcare.

For DECADES, health care costs have been rising faster than inflation and GDP. And during that entire time, the Republicans offered...NOTHING to fix it.

In the meantime, the Democrats have been telegraphing loud and clear their intention to socialize our medical system.

Still, when they have all the power, the GOP invariably does NOTHING.

And that is why we are going to end up with single payer health care. Because of dumbasses who say, "We don't want a replacement" for Obamacare.

we will get single payer because thats what democrats and republicans have been planning all along

Yes, I have been saying for years that Republicans sold us down the river to single payer healthcare.

But your attitude is complicit as well.

 

[Mac1958]

Lol
The federal government fucks everything up they touch, why the fuck would anyone want anything to do with socialize medicine? Because it’s not about Medicine, is it’s all about control...

As I said, right now the majority is fine with it.

So platitudes and talking points and screaming SOCIALISM won't be enough.

The GOP blew its chance, so here we are.
.

Socialism is a living hell for millions of Americans, Socialism has and always will be an failure... Made obvious because it always has to be forced on people that want nothing to do with it. We are not all in this together.

Okay, well, I'm sure that meme will change the majority's mind.
.

the majority already know,,,thats why we havent already fallen into that system

Okay, then I'm sure you have nothing to worry about.
.

 

[progressive hunter]

As I said, right now the majority is fine with it.

So platitudes and talking points and screaming SOCIALISM won't be enough.

The GOP blew its chance, so here we are.
.

Socialism is a living hell for millions of Americans, Socialism has and always will be an failure... Made obvious because it always has to be forced on people that want nothing to do with it. We are not all in this together.

Okay, well, I'm sure that meme will change the majority's mind.
.

the majority already know,,,thats why we havent already fallen into that system

Okay, then I'm sure you have nothing to worry about.
.

but they are still trying, so we must be vigilant

 

[g5000]

Millions of Americans want nothing to do with any form of socialized medicine...

Millions more do.

PLAN A: Nothing. (GOP Plan)

PLAN B: Socialized medicine, a.k.a. single payer health care, a.k.a. Medicare For All. (Democratic Plan)


Take a look at this chart and guess which plan the American voter is going to choose:

 

[g5000]

Republican talking point: "SOSHULYSM! MOAR TAXES!"

Democratic talking point: "No more medical bills."


Take a look at this chart and guess which talking point the American voter will listen to:

 

[g5000]

If only the right wing voters had held their leaders' feet to the fire and demanded something other than "Nothing".

If only the right wing had come up with a better mousetrap by way of a superior health care reform.

Instead, they decided, "Nah. We don't need no reform. We're good!"


Take a look at this chart and guess how much longer the American voter will tolerate that horseshit:

 

[bendog]

Republican talking point: "SOSHULYSM! MOAR TAXES!"

Democratic talking point: "No more medical bills."


Take a look at this chart and guess which talking point the American voter will listen to:

We may have no option but to go single payor and put a quasi-politically independent body in charge .... sort of like the fed. And yes, that would socialize medicine.

 

[22lcidw]

Millions of Americans want nothing to do with any form of socialized medicine...

Millions more do.

PLAN A: Nothing. (GOP Plan)

PLAN B: Socialized medicine, a.k.a. single payer health care, a.k.a. Medicare For All. (Democratic Plan)


Take a look at this chart and guess which plan the American voter is going to choose:

So single payer is going to stop the massive increases in real medical costs. Is that what you are spouting? What happens as that red line goes to 1000 per cent increase and 1200 per cent increase and more? But we all pay a minimum amount which I would like also. Do you understand there is massive corruption in the medical industry? How about the endless lawsuits that costs bookoo dollars every year. I am getting older but the aging are costing the system massive amounts of dollars. And then there are those who never paid a dollar into anything costing the system. You do not think there will be any repercussions with or without single payer as the years go by do you? I know the ilegals collecting checks, benefits, and schooling will pay for it. When the cuts start coming, the ugliness will show up quickly.

 

[forkup]

Why is the government controlling prices, making it as cheap as they can a bad thing? For your information, and this is purely applicable to Belgium. Since I don't have those specifics on other countries. There are only 2 directions in my country that requires an entrance exam in order to be allowed to take that route. Doctor and dentist. Those exams have a failure rate of EIGHTY percent. Not joking only one in five who has the aspiration actually is even allowed to become a doctor. Only the top half is allowed to specialize. We still have more doctors per capita then the US. So,it seems to me the facts don't match reality.

the government has never made prices cheaper,,,in fact its well proven that 100% of the time prices increase when government gets involved,,,that being is because you add in the salarys of the gov employees to the over all price as just a starter and then you got the regs that increase it also


so your premise is lacking in reality

I just posted the stats that said otherwise. Find me ONE, only one single statistic that doesn't say that the American healthcare system is more expensive then those in countries with socialized healthcare. I dare you.

for me its more about personal choice than money

You are welcome to your personal choices. But the fact that you are saying that, does mean you admit that the government funding healthcare DOES drive the cost down. Something that you claimed wasn't the case.

I never said that,,,

I just wonder,,,when it comes time to push your system will you be holding the gun to my head or are you one of those chicken shit commies that has someone else do it while you hide at home???

I never said that,,,

Really, you do realize that it's not hard to look up?

the government has never made prices cheaper,,,in fact its well proven that 100% of the time prices increase when government gets involved

I just wonder, when will you be capable of actually trying to defend your position without using straw mans, deflections,hyperbole, or straight up lies? That's my question?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The GOP had 7 fucking years of promising to do something to fix it, but all they did was use it to get elected, banking on a Hillary win, which would require them to do nothing but continue to bitch about not being in power.

This is why the GOP is fucking useless.

 

[jc456]

Once again, those who advocate for a government take over completely ignore or fail to understand basic economics.

Having one source of payment for medical services (otherwise known as a monopoly) will allow government to artificially control prices.

For one to be considered a "doctor" that person must have at least 20 years of formal education. Only the best and brightest qualify to be medical students.

If government has its hands on price controls, tell me who is going to be a doctor? Who is going to sacrifice in that much of their life to make chicken feed?

What did we end up with?

Why is it so hard for some to foresee consequences?

Why is the government controlling prices, making it as cheap as they can a bad thing? For your information, and this is purely applicable to Belgium. Since I don't have those specifics on other countries. There are only 2 directions in my country that requires an entrance exam in order to be allowed to take that route in college. Doctor and dentist. Those exams have a failure rate of EIGHTY percent. Not joking only one in five who has the aspiration actually is even allowed to become a doctor. Only the top half is allowed to specialize. We still have more doctors per capita then the US. So,it seems to me the facts don't match reality.

Fk our government controlling our lives. They don’t control grocery prices or gas or anything fking else. Don’t bring me into your plantation bigot

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

So single payer is going to stop the massive increases in real medical costs. Is that what you are spouting? What happens as that red line goes to 1000 per cent increase and 1200 per cent increase and more? But we all pay a minimum amount which I would like also. Do you understand there is massive corruption in the medical industry? How about the endless lawsuits that costs bookoo dollars every year. I am getting older but the aging are costing the system massive amounts of dollars. And then there are those who never paid a dollar into anything costing the system. You do not think there will be any repercussions with or without single payer as the years go by do you? I know the ilegals collecting checks, benefits, and schooling will pay for it. When the cuts start coming, the ugliness will show up quickly.

That's not what he is saying at all.

He is saying that the fucking useless GOP had done JACK SHIT about the problem, so we're gonna end up with single payer because they are doing jack shit about the problem after promising to do so for 7 fucking years.

 

[jc456]

The GOP had 7 fucking years of promising to do something to fix it, but all they did was use it to get elected, banking on a Hillary win, which would require them to do nothing but continue to bitch about not being in power.

This is why the GOP is fucking useless.

Dude, all of them, trump is what we wanted. Neither party. Fk these skunks