"Spy-gate" Mr. Trump???.......Really that desperate???

Or..to condense your post to its cogent whole:

But..but...but...Obama!


Actually, (and I am not a big Obama fan)......back in 2012 Obama was correct in that A-Q and NOT Russia presented the much more pronounced global threat.

Monday-morning quarterbacking by the Trump cult membership in ALWAYS bring up Obama in a thread about what is happening NOW.
 
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Trump needs all the intel he can get to hold an advantage in case he sits down with Meuller.

Rudi spilled the beans


Giuliani told HuffPost that Trump needed the information about the informant before deciding whether to agree to an interview with special counsel Robert Mueller. “We can’t let our guy go in and be questioned without knowing this,” he said.

In other words, according to Giuliani, Trump convened the meeting to gain a strategic advantage in his personal negotiations with the special counsel.

Doesn't every criminal wish they could have a copy of all the evidence against them, before they decide what story to tell.
 
...but yet Liberal Extremists and snowflakes would have us believe that...what...the Russians did all of this in an attempt to influence the election FOR DONALD TRUMP?!

Is that you Ms Nielsen? :lol:

Donald Trump’s homeland security secretary, Kirstjen Nielsen, told reporters on Tuesday she was unaware of intelligence assessments that Russia favored Trump over Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

“I do not believe I’ve seen that conclusion that the specific intent was to help President Trump win,” she said. “I’m not aware of that.”

Nielsen’s comments stand at odds with the US intelligence community, which concluded in 2017 that Russia tried to influence the 2016 election to benefit Trump. Last week, the Senate intelligence committee said it agreed with that assessment.
Homeland security chief: I haven't seen intel that showed Russia favored Trump
 
Or..to condense your post to its cogent whole: But..but...but...Obama!
Negative, Barry Jock-sniffer. My point was:

ALL THE EXISTING EVIDENCE IN THE WORLD SHOWS OBAMA AND HIS CRIMINAL ILLEGALLY-COLLUDING ADMINISTRATION AIDED, ABETTED, ASSISTED, AND PROTECTED RUSSIA AND PUTIN WHILE THEY PILLAGED AND PLUNDERED THE UNITED STATES....

...AND SNOWFLAKES LIKE YOU CONTINUE TO YAWN AT THE EVIDENCE WHILE CONTINUING TO PROMOTE THE FALSE NARRATIVE CREATED AND PUSHED BY PROVEN TREASONOUS OBAMA ADMINISTRATION / CABINET / AGENCY DIRECTORS.
 
Doesn't every criminal wish they could have a copy of all the evidence against them, before they decide what story to tell.

Not a real headline - but appropriate to your comment nonetheless ;-)

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...but yet Liberal Extremists and snowflakes would have us believe that...what...the Russians did all of this in an attempt to influence the election FOR DONALD TRUMP?!

Is that you Ms Nielsen? :lol:

Donald Trump’s homeland security secretary, Kirstjen Nielsen, told reporters on Tuesday she was unaware of intelligence assessments that Russia favored Trump over Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

“I do not believe I’ve seen that conclusion that the specific intent was to help President Trump win,” she said. “I’m not aware of that.”

Nielsen’s comments stand at odds with the US intelligence community, which concluded in 2017 that Russia tried to influence the 2016 election to benefit Trump. Last week, the Senate intelligence committee said it agreed with that assessment.
Homeland security chief: I haven't seen intel that showed Russia favored Trump
Nielsen? You left out Feinstein, Reid, Schumer, and other prominent Democrats, who when pushed to answer if they had seen any evidence to support the Witch Hunt all said 'NO!'

Feinstein: No Evidence Of Russian Collusion With Trump Campaign, But There Are Rumors

Feinstein: No evidence Trump campaign received 'dirt' on Clinton - CNN Video
 
Doesn't every criminal wish they could have a copy of all the evidence against them, before they decide what story to tell.
The problem is there is no crime, never was a crime, never was any evidence of a crime...involving Trump. When you loo at all the evidence against Obama and his administration, you have a completely different story....
 
Or..to condense your post to its cogent whole: But..but...but...Obama!
Negative, Barry Jock-sniffer. My point was:

ALL THE EXISTING EVIDENCE IN THE WORLD SHOWS OBAMA AND HIS CRIMINAL ILLEGALLY-COLLUDING ADMINISTRATION AIDED, ABETTED, ASSISTED, AND PROTECTED RUSSIA AND PUTIN WHILE THEY PILLAGED AND PLUNDERED THE UNITED STATES....

...AND SNOWFLAKES LIKE YOU CONTINUE TO YAWN AT THE EVIDENCE WHILE CONTINUING TO PROMOTE THE FALSE NARRATIVE CREATED AND PUSHED BY PROVEN TREASONOUS OBAMA ADMINISTRATION / CABINET / AGENCY DIRECTORS.
Check it out..dude..this thread is not about Obama..start an anti-Obama thread of your own..I'm sure you'll get plenty of action.

I note with amusement your contention that every event of the day is somehow part of some grand Obama-led conspiracy. I reject the concept utterly. BTW..the use of caps is a bit juvenile, don't you think?

Your use of the word 'proven' seems a bit...odd...as, other than the usual garbage posted on sites such as these..nothing has been, "proven".

To me, posts such as yours--totally off the thread topic..are meant to spin and deflect.
Belief is not fact. Example: the fact is that the intelligence community inserted an informant into the Trump campaign. The fact is that there were at least 4 people who, time and investigation has revealed, were in contact with the Russians. With at least one of them, Carter Page, an acknowledged Russian operative.

Opinion: The FBI made the right call, based on the facts.

Belief: The Trumpista camp are using this as a hook to hang their spin on--because they wish to deflect from Trump's incompetence.

You see..it's not so hard.
 
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Your posts never suggest thinking, nor do they support others in that quest. Some day in the distant future you may grow up, and post something of substance, thoughtful or thought provoking.
I try to post so that you leftists may understand. If that means dumbing down, then I have accomplished my goal.

Thanks so much for sharing, your opinions are very telling, and though there is no substance nor thought behind it.

Now you understand! When you, as a leftist, learn to think and do for yourself, get back to me. I will at that time post something that you can grasp! Good luck!

For the record: This ^^^ is not a rebuttal, nor is it substantive, thoughtful or thought provoking.

The use of the term "leftist" as a pejorative is not substantive and your post is a childish*** response by one whose best work - so to speak - is to echo others who lack substance, thinking and credibility.

*** I know you are, but what am I, and, I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you call me bounces off of me and sticks to you.

As I suggested, grow up!
Those are some pretty impressive words there. So, if you're as smart as those words suggest you are, why on earth are you a leftist - which - by definition - is a dependent state that needs others to think and do for them???!!!

"impressive words"? Which of my words flummoxed you?

The use of "leftist" on this message board is used as a pejorative (an expression of contempt or disapproval) and has never been defined in terms of an ideology or set of political policies; the inference as used suggests to the unsophisticated and mildly educated that a leftist must be a Marxist, Communist, Socialist or Anarchist.

The etymology of the use of Left and Right is no longer recognized in contemporary discourse, and off course these words developed during the French Revolution to describe the Right, supporters of the King (aka: Authoritarians); and the Left (Supporters of the people (aka: Republicans).

Today the BIG LIE is the left is composed of Big government supporters who want the government to control every thing and every person; and the Right is compost of those who support Liberty for All.

Both of these positions ^^^ don't stand up to reality!
 
The extremely nervous charlatan-in-chief has chosen (in his infamous barrage of tweets instead of news conferences) to label the FBI investigation as "spy-gate"......

I don't know if ANY right winger on here still has an ounce of objectivity left, but at the very least consider these facts:

1. the Trump campaign was thoroughly informed that there were ample suspicions that the Russians were trying to infiltrate both campaigns.

2. Trump hired several people within his campaign who either boasted of their ties to Russian information (Papadapolous) OR were actively being recruited by Russian agents (Page).......not to mention the crooked Manafort and Flynn.

3. IF the FBI investigation was POLITICAL and not simply the FBI performing its functions.....THEN information on the Russian influence on the Trump campaign would have been exposed BEFORE the election....and, obviously, that did not happen.........(and conversely, the FBI's Comey did screw over the Clinton campaign.)

So, Mr. Trump.......where the hell do you find the basis to be "irate"???.............Unless, of course, you're trying to rally your moronic base to reject the upcoming storm (pardon the expression) of Mueller's investigation???
It was Russians who infiltrated the Trump campaign, not the FBI.

Funny how the President doesn't make so much as a single tweet to complain about a foreign government infiltrating his campaign, isn't it?
Show us on the doll where Putin touched you to make you flip your vote
 
Not too complicated folks...

Corrupt Chicago Thuggery (Hussein Obama) + the Clintons = Treason

Nuff said.
 
TO-DATE THERE'S NO SMOKE, AND I'M LAUGHING MY ASS OFF @ TREATED TRUMP FAIRLY BUT CHEATED CLINTON OUT OF A WIN YOU WILL NEVER GET OVER.

So, Mr. Trump.......where the hell do you find the basis to be "irate"???.............Unless, of course, you're trying to rally your moronic base to reject the upcoming storm (pardon the expression) of Mueller's investigation??? WITCH HUNT

"To date there's NO smoke"?????..............Really, nitwit?

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......and, regarding the "Witch Hunt"....(hannity would be proud of you.) How did that mantra worked out for that other guy?

..View attachment 195028.

You stupid fuck. The indictments are unrelated and primarily the result of misinformation aka "lying to the FBI".
Do you honestly believe that? It's a particularly amusing allegation..given the indictment FOR lying to the FBI! The indictment for money laundering? Most of the indictments have nothing at all to do with anyone's statements..but are the results of evidence..yup, evidence..uncovered via patient investigation. AKA..the paper trail.

Has it ever occurred to you to post facts garnered by learning...about both sides of the issues of the day--rather than just knee-jerking along with all the other partisan hacks?

Just askin...

ILMAO. The indictment for money laundering has NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUMP.. It's you who has a party up your butt and can't tell which end is up.
 
Spy gate? a little over the top? problems Israel, problems Iraq, problems Iran, problems China, problems North Korea, problems with our allies. its all heating up again. nerve racking the new daily drama. how about giving us a days rest.
 
The governments first duty is to protect its citizens, which includes voting rights. It would be a dereliction of duty to not have SOME investigation by the FBI. To call this SPYGATE is the most desperate overreach I have ever seen in politics. This response reveals the level of panic within the administration, which is so high, they are willing to grasp at any straw placed in front of them. Problem is that straw is a NoOSE! See ya in prison!
 
The extremely nervous charlatan-in-chief has chosen (in his infamous barrage of tweets instead of news conferences) to label the FBI investigation as "spy-gate"......

I don't know if ANY right winger on here still has an ounce of objectivity left, but at the very least consider these facts:

1. the Trump campaign was thoroughly informed that there were ample suspicions that the Russians were trying to infiltrate both campaigns.

2. Trump hired several people within his campaign who either boasted of their ties to Russian information (Papadapolous) OR were actively being recruited by Russian agents (Page).......not to mention the crooked Manafort and Flynn.

3. IF the FBI investigation was POLITICAL and not simply the FBI performing its functions.....THEN information on the Russian influence on the Trump campaign would have been exposed BEFORE the election....and, obviously, that did not happen.........(and conversely, the FBI's Comey did screw over the Clinton campaign.)

So, Mr. Trump.......where the hell do you find the basis to be "irate"???.............Unless, of course, you're trying to rally your moronic base to reject the upcoming storm (pardon the expression) of Mueller's investigation???

A concern that every citizen should have, is Trump may really believe these delusions, and such paranoia puts all of us at risk.
ROFL. Brennan has admitted the government spied on the Trump campaign, so how are they delusions? The conspiritors are going to delude themselves straight into an orange jump suit.
 
The governments first duty is to protect its citizens, which includes voting rights. It would be a dereliction of duty to not have SOME investigation by the FBI. To call this SPYGATE is the most desperate overreach I have ever seen in politics. This response reveals the level of panic within the administration, which is so high, they are willing to grasp at any straw placed in front of them. Problem is that straw is a NoOSE! See ya in prison!
When the government spies on the opposition party, it's going down the same road as Russia and Venzeula. The FBI and CIA broke numerous laws to do this. About a dozen people need to go to prison.
 

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