Stop looking down on us, please.

[theDoctorisIn]

I tend to see no real issue with being called arrogant.

There's your problem. It's that kind of elitism that pisses people off.

Elitism may piss people off, but Populism gets people killed.

And how many people have died due to Trump's candidacy thus far?

None, so far. But I think you're missing my point.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Don't watch too much Fox News kid. You may suffer from too much brain rot inbetween that and your Saturday morning cartoons.

See, you put on a good face in the beginning, but as time went by, and the more we conversed, you began to sound just like the rest of the liberal trolls on this board.

 

[Never3ndr]

if you were to respond to rational arguments you really wouldn't even think of supporting him.

And what place is it of yours to lecture me about who I support?

Why shouldn't I? You made the OP crying about how you, as a Trump supporter, are unfairly treated. You realize if you had never made that post, you would have gotten zero responses right? You felt like saying something, I feel like retorting. I enjoy pointing out that you cry when I use Trump tactics, yet you support Trump. You cry that I have an arrogant attitude, yet you support Trump. You made the OP, yet you go out of your way to speak in generalities and actually say nothing about your, personal, position. I guess in that respect, it does make sense you support Trump.

 

[Pogo]

Yo, I voted for him because he was on T.V.? "The Apprentice" Love that show, especially when he says? TemplarKormac, you`re FIRED!

Yo, I never even watched "The Apprentice." I didn't vote for him because of his popularity. I voted for him for reasons I stated in post #1. And for the record, the person I associate the "You're fired" with more, is this guy. See, WWF/E wrestling was my thing back in the day:

Acutally --- that speaks volumes about the vote you admitted to in post 1.
Volumes.

Are you interested in me Pogo? Because that sounded like you trying to hit off me.

That makes no sense whatsoever.

What the hell is a "hit off me"? Are we playing baseball?

 

[Never3ndr]

Don't watch too much Fox News kid. You may suffer from too much brain rot inbetween that and your Saturday morning cartoons.

See, you put on a good face in the beginning, but as time went by, and the more we conversed, you began to sound just like the rest of the liberal trolls on this board.

Actually I initially made some attempts at reason. Yet, this was silly of me. You are a kid that plays video games, watches anime, and supports Trump. The most juvenile of tactics would be the most effective on you...idiot.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I tend to see no real issue with being called arrogant.

There's your problem. It's that kind of elitism that pisses people off.

Elitism may piss people off, but Populism gets people killed.

And how many people have died due to Trump's candidacy thus far?

None, so far. But I think you're missing my point.

I'm not. I'm just annoyed right now, and I didn't mean to snap at you.

However. We wouldn't need this populism, or Trump, if the Republicans had done their job and kept their promises to their constituents. Many other things led to Trump's candidacy. Had America gotten to tending her wounds beforehand, we wouldn't need the tourniquet that is Trump.

 

[Never3ndr]

None, so far. But I think you're missing my point.

I just wanted to make an aside and say that I love that pic of Hunter S Thompson.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Actually I initially made some attempts at reason. Yet, this was silly of me. You are a kid that plays video games, watches anime, and supports Trump. The most juvenile of tactics would be the most effective on you...idiot.

I'm an idiot now? How charming.

Yes, yes, you are all the same. You try to act intelligent, but when someone doesn't succumb to your reasoning or logic, you throw a tantrum, like a spoiled brat. No truly intelligent person would try to force their mindsets onto other people. You are the typical forum troll, Never. I exposed you for what you are.

 

[Pogo]

None, so far. But I think you're missing my point.

I just wanted to make an aside and say that I love that pic of Hunter S Thompson.

I liked him better as Bertrand Russell.

 

[Pogo]

Actually I initially made some attempts at reason. Yet, this was silly of me. You are a kid that plays video games, watches anime, and supports Trump. The most juvenile of tactics would be the most effective on you...idiot.

Yes, yes, you are all the same. You try to act intelligent, your supposed intellectual superiority was just a facade. No truly intelligent person would try to force their mindsets onto other people. You are the typical forum troll, Never.

You know you just posted that on the internet, right?

 

[Never3ndr]

Actually I initially made some attempts at reason. Yet, this was silly of me. You are a kid that plays video games, watches anime, and supports Trump. The most juvenile of tactics would be the most effective on you...idiot.

Yes, yes, you are all the same. You try to act intelligent, your supposed intellectual superiority was just a facade. No truly intelligent person would try to force their mindsets onto other people. You are the typical forum troll, Never.

No truly intelligent person would try to force their mindsets onto other people...LOL.

You can tell that you have never worked with higher level academia. Beautiful, just beautiful. Please tell me more about how scientists don't try to argue for their point of view. LOL

Real genius this one.

As an FYI if you go to a conference and somebody says something pretty controversial or comes up with research that flies in the face of our current understanding...it is a real shitshow.

 

[Muhammed]

I'm probably going to be insulted, chastised, accused of hypocrisy in some sort of way, inciting double standards or whatnot for this post. For those of you not inclined to reading at least a minute or two, please, pass this post by.

But whatever you do, stop looking down on us, please.

Yes, I/we voted for Trump. Not all of us as Trump supporters voted for him because he "tells it like it is" or because we want to stick it to the "establishment." But does that warrant every other person who didn't looking down on us like we're a collective of brainless zombies? We're more often than not referred to in many sorts of derogatory ways, like "stupid", "un-American", "unintelligent", "Nazis", "Drumpfs", "Trumpettes", "racists" "pigs" or what have you. We're not idiots. We're smart people. We have the ability to think, to deduce, to reason. We don't deserve to be labeled. We're not monsters or automatons.

We don't deserve to be blamed for every Tom, Dick, or Harry who decides it would be cute to throw a left hook at or threaten to kill someone during a Trump rally. Violence is wrong, and yes, Trump is wrong for using inciteful rhetoric, though what happened in Chicago a couple nights back was not his fault, like it or not. He had just as much right to speak as the protesters did. But I digress.

Most of us value civility, but to hear the media and everyone else, were out there looking for a fight. We're not members of the Schutzstaffel (The Nazi SS) looking to round up Muslims, Hispanics, or African Americans from their homes in the night, just so we can slit their throats in a perverted sense of superiority. We don't play the knockout game.

It's as simple as this. If the Republican party had done the job we had elected them to do, there would be no Donald Trump. If the Republican party fought twice as hard against Obama as they do Trump. There would be no Donald Trump. There would be no need for violent rhetoric and protests, or name calling. Yes, we recognize Trump is not for everyone, and that people have their own standards to adhere to, and we respect that. But the rest of us, in voting for a man that many of us don't think shares our values, we vote for him in hopes he can help us uphold them.

We voted for Trump for various reasons, and not because we're simply angry. This is a cliche saying, but it rings true today: "you don't know a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes." I myself don't think some of you understand us, or are unable to sympathize with us because we simply voted for Trump. Some of us are desperate. Some of us are afraid. Some of us don't see any way out other than Trump. Some of us are indeed angry; some of us are sick and tired, most of us have gone cycle after cycle voting for person after the other, hoping that he or she would be the one. And quite frankly, if you're like me, some of us have simply just given up. We are not acting in a fit of pique, this is a movement. We have tried playing by the rules and our reward was naught.

We are American citizens from all walks of life, from business owners, entrepreneurs, to soldiers and veterans, police, and firefighters, we're moms and dads with children scraping to get by, we're employed or unemployed, rich and poor, young and old, we consist of a diverse collection of races and ethnic backgrounds. We're college graduates, professors and teachers, highly educated or under educated. We're Christians, Muslims, and Jews. We are all human beings. As Shakespeare put it in his play, The Merchant of Venice, Act 3, Scene 1:

"If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that."

Another good example of Trump brained rationale. These people have no idea what they believe or why, they just know that they do.

Oh, be quiet. Just how much of this did you read before you launched your attack?

Well I'm not a Trump follower, so I read a little faster and comprehend a lot better too.

Then why don't you demonstrate it here?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I tend to see no real issue with being called arrogant.

There's your problem. It's that kind of elitism that pisses people off.

Elitism may piss people off, but Populism gets people killed.

And how many people have died due to Trump's candidacy thus far?

None, so far. But I think you're missing my point.

I'm not. I'm just annoyed right now, and I didn't mean to snap at you.

However. We wouldn't need this populism, or Trump, if the Republicans had done their job and kept their promises to their constituents. Many other things led to Trump's candidacy. Had America gotten to tending her wounds beforehand, we wouldn't need the tourniquet that is Trump.

Can you clarify a few things for me?

What "promises" are you referring to? What "wounds" should have been tended? What "wounds" is Trump a "tourniquet" for?

 

[BluesLegend]

I tend to see no real issue with being called arrogant.

There's your problem. It's that kind of elitism that pisses people off.

Elitism may piss people off, but Populism gets people killed.

You know what gets American citizens killed? Allowing illegals to pour across our border and murder them.

 

[Never3ndr]

I tend to see no real issue with being called arrogant.

There's your problem. It's that kind of elitism that pisses people off.

Elitism may piss people off, but Populism gets people killed.

You know what gets American citizens killed? Allowing illegals to pour across our border and murder them.

I don't think anybody "allows" illegals across the border...hence, the term, "illegal".

 

[TemplarKormac]

You can tell that you have never worked with higher level academia.

Oh, you're one of those Ivy League brats then? I want no part of this "higher level academia" if means having to deal with your type. Makes me glad I chose not to go to college.

And who is "You"? Don't you mean "I"? For someone so highly educated as yourself, you would think to use proper grammar.

Please tell me more about how scientists don't try to argue for their point of view

There's a difference between arguing for your theory or hypothesis and trying to assert it as fact without it being proven. Sort of like the McCarthyist shenanigans that go on in the Global Warming arena.

You can argue for your point of view all you want. But when you try to force that point of view on to someone, it becomes a problem, see, what you're doing is trying to force your point of view on me. You see your point of view as the only rational one, and that if I would "only listen to reason" that I somehow would magically not support Trump. That's not how this life or any other works. You made a demand, not an argument. What you see as reasonable and what I see as reasonable are two different things, with that in mind, not once have I tried to force my ideas on to you.

I don't care what you believe. I don't care how you think or act. You are free to do as you wish, but one thing you will not do is force your ways on to me.

You made colossal mistake in pre-judging me.

 

[BluesLegend]

I tend to see no real issue with being called arrogant.

There's your problem. It's that kind of elitism that pisses people off.

Elitism may piss people off, but Populism gets people killed.

You know what gets American citizens killed? Allowing illegals to pour across our border and murder them.

I don't think anybody "allows" illegals across the border...hence, the term, "illegal".

Thinking, not your strong suit. Go watch the National Geographic documentary on Mexico's Meth trafficking into the United States then once you have a sliver of knowledge perhaps we can discuss further.

 

[Never3ndr]

You can tell that you have never worked with higher level academia.

Oh, you're one of those Ivy League brats then? I want no part of this "higher level academia" if means having to deal with your type. Makes me glad I chose not to go to college.

And who is "You"? Don't you mean "I"? For someone so highly educated as yourself, you would think to use proper grammar.

Please tell me more about how scientists don't try to argue for their point of view

There's a difference between arguing for your theory or hypothesis and trying to assert it as fact without it being proven. Sort of like the McCarthyist shenanigans that go on in the Global Warming arena.

You can argue for your point of view all you want. But what you're doing is trying to force your point of view on me. You see your point of view as the only rational one, and that if I would "only listen to reason" that I somehow would magically not support Trump.

You made a mistake in pre-judging me.

I never attended an Ivy League college (maybe a better public university, but the GI Bill does not pay the full tuition of private universities). Also, higher academia means your level of degree, not what school(s) you attended. You can go to Blumpkin university and get your master's or Ph.D. and start doing research work, while you may have to work pretty hard since you don't have the credentials, you are still in the higher academic arena.

FYI I didn't get my degree in English, and haven't studied it in about a decade. Feel free to correct my grammar, I'd be the first to admit that it is horrid.

That is the issue that I originally brought up, that there aren't enough reasons to support Trump given his negatives. You also keep crying about not specifically constructing an argument YET YOU HAVE NEVER GIVEN US YOUR PERSONAL REASONS FOR SUPPORTING HIM...hello?

Idiot.

 

[Never3ndr]

I tend to see no real issue with being called arrogant.

There's your problem. It's that kind of elitism that pisses people off.

Elitism may piss people off, but Populism gets people killed.

You know what gets American citizens killed? Allowing illegals to pour across our border and murder them.

I don't think anybody "allows" illegals across the border...hence, the term, "illegal".

Thinking, not your strong suit. Go watch the National Geographic documentary on Mexico's Meth trafficking into the United States then once you have a sliver of knowledge perhaps we can discuss further.

So, your position is that we have corrupt officials that allow illegals across the border due to the drug trade? I'll allow that, the drug war is horrid for both our economy and Mexico's. I'm glad you are on the same side as me and are looking to legalize illicit drugs in the United States.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You also keep crying about not specifically constructing an argument YET YOU HAVE NEVER GIVEN US YOUR PERSONAL REASONS FOR SUPPORTING HIM...hello?

Hello! You're the one lecturing me about constructing arguments, as yours have devolved into ad hominem.

Did you not read the OP? Or is reading comprehension not your forte? All my reasons were stated there. Your biases and preconceived judgements told you to ignore any reasons I gave for supporting Trump.

I'm sorry if you failed to grasp my point. That's not my problem.