Supreme Court upholds Obamacare subsidies

[jknowgood]

Another freedom taken by the Obama administration.

which freedom is that?

Forcing someone to buy something isn't freedom.

But you think denying healthcare to the poor is freedom?

You think forcing the poor to pay for something and if they cannot afford it. Make them pay a fine, because they couldn't afford it. Is okay? Why do you hate the poor?

But forcing a poor woman to have a child she can't afford, is con freedom. Why do cons hate the poor and women?

Did I force her to have sex? I didn't demand her to have sex, but you want to demand me buy health insurance. Nice try, you fail again.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Well, I see that the Right is not idle. Now that are back to talking about privatizing SS.

I do think, however, that they have given up on terminating Medicare.....

How long before the Republicans show their butthurt and pass another "Repeal Obamacare" bill?

Probably as soon as the majority of Americans elect a Republican POTUS in 2016, since most Americans think the ACA is a piece of crap, and the number will grow when premiums go up next year!!!!

Do you think that they will go up as fast as they did in 1982? The reason that I ask is because my career was underwriting health insurance, and during the Carter years, i was rating in an annual health insurance premium inflation charge of 22%.....

If you check online, some plans are projecting up to a 30% increase, and you can still have a deductible that can have you paying thousands before the insurance even kicks in....

Look at it like a McSwaggart... You get to pay for it, and watch while somebody else eats it!!!!

Ok, I get it. having no health care at all is better than having health care with a 30% premium increase. Sounds like you could give economic lessons to Brownback!

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Another freedom taken by the Obama administration.

which freedom is that?

Forcing someone to buy something isn't freedom.

Nobody is being forced to buy something, if you chose to oppose Obama by not buying insurance, and causing people like me to pay for your unexpected ER visit after a car accident, you can pay at tax time.

Put your money where your ideology du jour is

Right if you cannot afford the insurance, fine the poor. Tax them poor people even more.

Last I checked, the poor were getting health care before Obamacare.

No, they were not.

Ronnie Ray-Gun's Socialist EMTALA gives ONLY emergency care, No hospital/clinic/doctor has to care for the poor.

And its paid for by the taxpayers.

 

[Obiwan]

Yes, I am suspecting that it will be a majority decision for SSM.

And then the Right will be seeing black helicopters everywhere.

I can't see Scalia and Thomas backing SSM. And Alito is questionable, imo.

But I can see Kennedy supporting it.

It will be at least a 5-4 decision, if not a 6-3 decision.

I doubt it will be a 7-2 decision.

On CNN it is being argued that Robert's decision is actually a very Conservative decision.

I think Roberts understands the inevitability of SSM in this country. It is his court and he will want to go down in history as supporting it

Scalia, Thomas and Alito are lost causes

I think Roberts opinion reflects the feelings of most Americans regardless of whether they supported the passage of the ACA or not.

"Congress passed the Affordable Care Act to improve health insurance markets, not to destroy them," Roberts wrote in the majority opinion. "If at all possible, we must interpret the Act in a way that is consistent with the former, and avoids the latter."

I'm just thankful for the ruling. If the court had gone the other way, many Americans would have lost their insurance including a member of my family.

A member of my family as well.

I just saw a poll reported that said only 25% want ObamaCare gone.

No way the Rs can take health insurance away from Americans now.

Actually, even the Democrats admit the problem exists.... Didn't you get the memo????

Dilemma over deductibles Costs crippling middle class - Democratic Underground

Dilemma over deductibles: Costs crippling middle class

 

[kwc57]

Another freedom taken by the Obama administration.

which freedom is that?

Forcing someone to buy something isn't freedom.

Nobody is being forced to buy something, if you chose to oppose Obama by not buying insurance, and causing people like me to pay for your unexpected ER visit after a car accident, you can pay at tax time.

Put your money where your ideology du jour is

Right if you cannot afford the insurance, fine the poor. Tax them poor people even more.

Actually, of course, its the other way around.

No excuse for poor and working class Americans to go without health care just because the R in the hip pocket of the Big Insurance and Big Pharma.

You of course know that insurance and pharma wrote this piece of liberal crap. Whose pocket were they in again?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

As I said previously, if you chose to not have healthcare insurance, those of us who do, will be stuck with the added cost of your unexpected ER visit after a car crash.

So those who oppose Obamacare on political grounds...are actually targeted for that, or the risk they pose.

Futhermore...when you are brought to the ER unconscious, without insurance, you better have $50,000-$300,000 lying around, to keep yourself out of the bad credit world.

No other modern nation treats healthcare as something only for those who can afford it
Our founders once wrote about "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" now it only seems to apply to those who can afford it

True. And, only two countries do not have substantial maternity leave - the US and Papua New Guinea.

Shameful that R's care so little about the American family.

Shameful that so many D's care so little about their own family that they refuse to provide for them.

I not only provide for my family but I am willing to provide for those who are not in as good a position for healthcare as I am

Republicans have a position of....I got mine, fuck everyone else

Maybe there should be a place to donate so lazy POS can get more free stuff.
personally, I work to better my family, F the lazy bastard that does nothing to help himself.

So you disagree with EMTALA?

 

[kwc57]

I can't see Scalia and Thomas backing SSM. And Alito is questionable, imo.

But I can see Kennedy supporting it.

It will be at least a 5-4 decision, if not a 6-3 decision.

I doubt it will be a 7-2 decision.

On CNN it is being argued that Robert's decision is actually a very Conservative decision.

I think Roberts understands the inevitability of SSM in this country. It is his court and he will want to go down in history as supporting it

Scalia, Thomas and Alito are lost causes

I think Roberts opinion reflects the feelings of most Americans regardless of whether they supported the passage of the ACA or not.

"Congress passed the Affordable Care Act to improve health insurance markets, not to destroy them," Roberts wrote in the majority opinion. "If at all possible, we must interpret the Act in a way that is consistent with the former, and avoids the latter."

I'm just thankful for the ruling. If the court had gone the other way, many Americans would have lost their insurance including a member of my family.

A member of my family as well.

I just saw a poll reported that said only 25% want ObamaCare gone.

No way the Rs can take health insurance away from Americans now.

Actually, even the Democrats admit the problem exists.... Didn't you get the memo????

Dilemma over deductibles Costs crippling middle class - Democratic Underground

Dilemma over deductibles: Costs crippling middle class

Nothing that throwing a little more taxpayer money at won't fix. Part of the plan.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Well, I see that the Right is not idle. Now that are back to talking about privatizing SS.

I do think, however, that they have given up on terminating Medicare.....

How long before the Republicans show their butthurt and pass another "Repeal Obamacare" bill?

Probably as soon as the majority of Americans elect a Republican POTUS in 2016, since most Americans think the ACA is a piece of crap, and the number will grow when premiums go up next year!!!!

Do you think that they will go up as fast as they did in 1982? The reason that I ask is because my career was underwriting health insurance, and during the Carter years, i was rating in an annual health insurance premium inflation charge of 22%.....

Naw, that can't be true.

The cost of health insurance, health care, drugs has only gone up since Obama has been in office.

And we never had racism either ...

 

[hangover]

which freedom is that?

Forcing someone to buy something isn't freedom.

But you think denying healthcare to the poor is freedom?

You think forcing the poor to pay for something and if they cannot afford it. Make them pay a fine, because they couldn't afford it. Is okay? Why do you hate the poor?

But forcing a poor woman to have a child she can't afford, is con freedom. Why do cons hate the poor and women?

Did I force her to have sex? I didn't demand her to have sex, but you want to demand me buy health insurance. Nice try, you fail again.

Now THAT'S deflection. You're still trying to force a poor woman to have a child she can't afford. You don't even know the meaning of the word fail...look in the mirror.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Are you old or terminally ill?

If so, nice know'in ya!!

Speaking of. They are voting on death panels too pretty soon at the state level.

Don't worry! Sarah will save you!

I pay for my own healthcare. I'm not worried.

Then you support death panals, because people who were uninsura

Then you must not need health care. As a health insurance underwriter, it was my job to decline application from anyone for health care who was ill, or pregnant.

I agree with denying for pre existing. I cant wait till I have an accident before I buy car insurance. Why should someone else get to do it with health insurance.

Then you support death panels, because people who were uninsurable under pre-existing condition rules died. That was my job.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

No other modern nation treats healthcare as something only for those who can afford it
Our founders once wrote about "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" now it only seems to apply to those who can afford it

True. And, only two countries do not have substantial maternity leave - the US and Papua New Guinea.

Shameful that R's care so little about the American family.

Shameful that so many D's care so little about their own family that they refuse to provide for them.

I not only provide for my family but I am willing to provide for those who are not in as good a position for healthcare as I am

Republicans have a position of....I got mine, fuck everyone else

Maybe there should be a place to donate so lazy POS can get more free stuff.
personally, I work to better my family, F the lazy bastard that does nothing to help himself.

So you disagree with EMTALA?

yes I do. A the most if someone gets care they should be billed for it and have it treated like any other bad debt if they dont pay. Including the destruction of their credit and wage garnishment ( or income since most are on welfare anyway )

 

[Luddly Neddite]

It is now certain that CORRUPTION has permeated all branches of our government.

A second revolutionary war is inevitable.

The DRAMA QUEEN weighs in!!

You better go out and buy some more guns and ammo.

 

[jknowgood]

Forcing someone to buy something isn't freedom.

But you think denying healthcare to the poor is freedom?

You think forcing the poor to pay for something and if they cannot afford it. Make them pay a fine, because they couldn't afford it. Is okay? Why do you hate the poor?

But forcing a poor woman to have a child she can't afford, is con freedom. Why do cons hate the poor and women?

Did I force her to have sex? I didn't demand her to have sex, but you want to demand me buy health insurance. Nice try, you fail again.

Now THAT'S deflection. You're still trying to force a poor woman to have a child she can't afford. You don't even know the meaning of the word fail...look in the mirror.

You dumb shit, I raised a son on my own. Couldn't really afford it, but we got by anyway.

 

[007]

It is now certain that CORRUPTION has permeated all branches of our government.

A second revolutionary war is inevitable.

The DRAMA QUEEN weighs in!!

You better go out and buy some more guns and ammo.

If you were smart, shit for brains, you'd take your own advice.

But wormy little piss ants like you are all about do as I say, not as I do.

Fuck off, commie.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The Supremes ruled in the traditional version of the 1950s conservatism, in that such a matter was the issue of the legislature. Let the legislature determine if something needed to be done.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The left loons breath a sigh of relief now that the taxpayers will continue to support them.

 

[mdk]

Scalia's dissent was positively scathing. I haven't got through the whole thing yet but he isn't mincing any words in his opinion.

Whether you like Scalia or not, the man is certainly quotable. lol.

 

[BlueGin]

Well, I see that the Right is not idle. Now that are back to talking about privatizing SS.

I do think, however, that they have given up on terminating Medicare.....

How long before the Republicans show their butthurt and pass another "Repeal Obamacare" bill?

Probably as soon as the majority of Americans elect a Republican POTUS in 2016, since most Americans think the ACA is a piece of crap, and the number will grow when premiums go up next year!!!!

Do you think that they will go up as fast as they did in 1982? The reason that I ask is because my career was underwriting health insurance, and during the Carter years, i was rating in an annual health insurance premium inflation charge of 22%.....

If you check online, some plans are projecting up to a 30% increase, and you can still have a deductible that can have you paying thousands before the insurance even kicks in....

Look at it like a McSwaggart... You get to pay for it, and watch while somebody else eats it!!!!

Ok, I get it. having no health care at all is better than having health care with a 30% premium increase. Sounds like you could give economic lessons to Brownback!

Not if they aren't paying their premiums.

 

[Vandalshandle]

But you think denying healthcare to the poor is freedom?

You think forcing the poor to pay for something and if they cannot afford it. Make them pay a fine, because they couldn't afford it. Is okay? Why do you hate the poor?

But forcing a poor woman to have a child she can't afford, is con freedom. Why do cons hate the poor and women?

Did I force her to have sex? I didn't demand her to have sex, but you want to demand me buy health insurance. Nice try, you fail again.

Now THAT'S deflection. You're still trying to force a poor woman to have a child she can't afford. You don't even know the meaning of the word fail...look in the mirror.

You dumb shit, I raised a son on my own. Couldn't really afford it, but we got by anyway.

Well, presumably, you have about 1 and 1/2 million dollars in spare change, because that was the final bill for my wife's first husbands leukemia before he died at age 54.

 

[Obiwan]

Well, I see that the Right is not idle. Now that are back to talking about privatizing SS.

I do think, however, that they have given up on terminating Medicare.....

How long before the Republicans show their butthurt and pass another "Repeal Obamacare" bill?

Probably as soon as the majority of Americans elect a Republican POTUS in 2016, since most Americans think the ACA is a piece of crap, and the number will grow when premiums go up next year!!!!

Do you think that they will go up as fast as they did in 1982? The reason that I ask is because my career was underwriting health insurance, and during the Carter years, i was rating in an annual health insurance premium inflation charge of 22%.....

If you check online, some plans are projecting up to a 30% increase, and you can still have a deductible that can have you paying thousands before the insurance even kicks in....

Look at it like a McSwaggart... You get to pay for it, and watch while somebody else eats it!!!!

Ok, I get it. having no health care at all is better than having health care with a 30% premium increase. Sounds like you could give economic lessons to Brownback!

Actually, having health insurance with such high deductibles that you can't afford them is like having no insurance at all, since you can't afford to go to the doctor.... And you get to pay the premiums anyway!!!!