The damaging case against James Comey

[danielpalos]

Comey is a weasel. ......

It does appear that the entire scenario for Comey the last few days was, in essence revenge. It may got the best of him, making him look unethical and unable to see what he was doing was not in his best interests.

The conversations with Trump appears to be privileged, an FBI work product, "
The standard FBI employment agreement bars the unauthorized disclosure of information “contained in the files, electronic or paper, of the FBI” that impact the bureau and specifically pledges that “I will not reveal, by any means, any information or material from or related to FBI files or any other information acquired by virtue of my official employment to any unauthorized recipient without prior official written authorization by the FBI.”"

The fact that he leaked this via a third person doesn't bode well, either. He was clearly presenting this a day early so the Democrats could alter their questions from the original topic, The "Russian Investigation" to private conversations he had with the president.

seems, political.

 

[danielpalos]

So, when are those charges going to be filed?

Answer: Never.

The Trump team won't file any actual charges, because, being Comey did nothing wrong or illegal, they know filing fake charges would leave them wide open to Abuse of Power complaints, which might get them disbarred.

That is, you Trumptards fell hard for a scam, like you always do. Everyone else but you sees it, which is why we're all laughing.

LOL..

The Probable Cause Statement was just served on the FBI, DOJ and the Special Counsel. Enjoy the rectal exam..

.

Link?

 

[danielpalos]

So, when are those charges going to be filed?

Answer: Never.

The Trump team won't file any actual charges, because, being Comey did nothing wrong or illegal, they know filing fake charges would leave them wide open to Abuse of Power complaints, which might get them disbarred.

That is, you Trumptards fell hard for a scam, like you always do. Everyone else but you sees it, which is why we're all laughing.

They are already preparing a legal case.

just right wing propaganda and rhetoric. link?

 

[danielpalos]

Comey was a substandard employee and a leaker who was terminated for this.

link or it didn't happen, right wingers.

 

[candycorn]

It (Comey’s notes/memos etc….) were never classified at all; ever. Period.

Go to the FBI website. Click on employee hand book. You will see they did not need to be classified. They were taken on government time on government devices. It's right there from the FBI's mouth.

So if the FBI Cafeteria prints out a sign and tapes it in the window saying “no soup today” it’s classified? Hilarious. At any rate, Do you have any proof that the documents that Comey gave to his friend at Columbia were written on a government laptop?

Hokey shit. I'm blown away. You are doing that thing that children do when they put their fingers in there ears and go "lalala I cant hear you lalala." But going to your point about the soup signs. Far as I can tell it wouldn't be classified, it wouldn't matter if I saw said sign and decided I could sell that as an official FBI cafeteria "no soup sign " and I removed it and sold it, or I took out my FBI issued smart phone , took a picture and sold that. Your scenario is way off the mark, but again, here is the law that covers it,


18 U.S. Code § 641 - Public money, property or records


Whoever embezzles, steals, purloins, or knowingly converts to his use or the use of another, or without authority, sells, conveys or disposes of any record, voucher, money, or thing of value of the United States or of any department or agency thereof, or any property made or being made under contract for the United States or any department or agency thereof; or

Whoever receives, conceals, or retains the same with intent to convert it to his use or gain, knowing it to have been embezzled, stolen, purloined or converted—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; but if the value of such property in the aggregate, combining amounts from all the counts for which the defendant is convicted in a single case, does not exceed the sum of $1,000, he shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

The word “value” means face, par, or market value, or cost price, either wholesale or retail, whichever is greater.

And?

Balls in your court toots.

Not sure why, you cut and paste a bunch of stuff from a manual without applying it to current events….

 

[radical right]

18 U.S. Code § 641 - Public money, property or records


Whoever embezzles, steals, purloins, or knowingly converts to his use or the use of another, or without authority, sells, conveys or disposes of any record, voucher, money, or thing of value of the United States or of any department or agency thereof, or any property made or being made under contract for the United States or any department or agency thereof; or

Not sure why, you cut and paste a bunch of stuff from a manual without applying it to current events….

He also neglects the first part "converts to his use" means taking something someone else did, and now makes use of it. Which in Comeys case there was no conversion. Comey used his own creation, not that of someone else.

And the second part, without authority. The director of the FBI is the authority for all thngs FBI. Comey needed permission from himself to use the memos. And he received that permission.

 

[Jackson]

Comey is a weasel. ......

It does appear that the entire scenario for Comey the last few days was, in essence revenge. It may got the best of him, making him look unethical and unable to see what he was doing was not in his best interests.

The conversations with Trump appears to be privileged, an FBI work product, "
The standard FBI employment agreement bars the unauthorized disclosure of information “contained in the files, electronic or paper, of the FBI” that impact the bureau and specifically pledges that “I will not reveal, by any means, any information or material from or related to FBI files or any other information acquired by virtue of my official employment to any unauthorized recipient without prior official written authorization by the FBI.”"

The fact that he leaked this via a third person doesn't bode well, either. He was clearly presenting this a day early so the Democrats could alter their questions from the original topic, The "Russian Investigation" to private conversations he had with the president.

seems, political.

yes, it does. and it's interesting you bring that up. By virtue of his position, he is supposed to be apolitical.

 

[skews13]

So, when are those charges going to be filed?

Answer: Never.

The Trump team won't file any actual charges, because, being Comey did nothing wrong or illegal, they know filing fake charges would leave them wide open to Abuse of Power complaints, which might get them disbarred.

That is, you Trumptards fell hard for a scam, like you always do. Everyone else but you sees it, which is why we're all laughing.

An old martial arts instructor of mine refers to them as the easily awed, and uninitiated.

 

[Crixus]

18 U.S. Code § 641 - Public money, property or records


Whoever embezzles, steals, purloins, or knowingly converts to his use or the use of another, or without authority, sells, conveys or disposes of any record, voucher, money, or thing of value of the United States or of any department or agency thereof, or any property made or being made under contract for the United States or any department or agency thereof; or

Not sure why, you cut and paste a bunch of stuff from a manual without applying it to current events….

He also neglects the first part "converts to his use" means taking something someone else did, and now makes use of it. Which in Comeys case there was no conversion. Comey used his own creation, not that of someone else.

And the second part, without authority. The director of the FBI is the authority for all thngs FBI. Comey needed permission from himself to use the memos. And he received that permission.

Na, not really. He is still an employee of the FBI subjects to ALL the same rules as anyone else. If he did what you are saying, then he will be in the exact same spot trump is.

 

[candycorn]

18 U.S. Code § 641 - Public money, property or records


Whoever embezzles, steals, purloins, or knowingly converts to his use or the use of another, or without authority, sells, conveys or disposes of any record, voucher, money, or thing of value of the United States or of any department or agency thereof, or any property made or being made under contract for the United States or any department or agency thereof; or

Not sure why, you cut and paste a bunch of stuff from a manual without applying it to current events….

He also neglects the first part "converts to his use" means taking something someone else did, and now makes use of it. Which in Comeys case there was no conversion. Comey used his own creation, not that of someone else.

And the second part, without authority. The director of the FBI is the authority for all thngs FBI. Comey needed permission from himself to use the memos. And he received that permission.

Na, not really. He is still an employee of the FBI subjects to ALL the same rules as anyone else. If he did what you are saying, then he will be in the exact same spot trump is.

Well Comey was fired so none of it would apply. Or do you still wear your McDonalds hat to work when you are delivering pizza for Dominos

 

[radical right]

And the second part, without authority. The director of the FBI is the authority for all thngs FBI. Comey needed permission from himself to use the memos. And he received that permission.

Na, not really. He is still an employee of the FBI subjects to ALL the same rules as anyone else. If he did what you are saying, then he will be in the exact same spot trump is.

This is why agency heads often require senate confirmation, because of the enormous autonomous power they hold. As director of the FBI Comey decides what is done with all things FBI, including memo policy.

 

[Never3ndr]

The damaging case against James Comey


1. After calling Comey a “showboat” and poor director, Comey proceeded to commit an unethical and unprofessional act in leaking damaging memos against Trump.

2. Comey described a series of ethical challenges during his term as FBI director. Yet, he almost uniformly avoided taking a firm stand in support of the professional standards of the FBI.

3, Trump allegedly asked for Comey to drop the investigation of Michael Flynn or pledge loyalty, Comey did not tell the president that he was engaging in wildly inappropriate conduct. He instead wrote a memo to file and told close aides. He now says that he wishes he had the courage or foresight to have taken a stand with the president.


4.However, the clearest violation came in the days following his termination. Comey admits that he gave the damaging memos to a friend at Columbia Law School with the full knowledge that the information would be given to the media. It was a particularly curious moment for a former director who was asked by the president to fight the leakers in the government. He proceeded in becoming one of the most consequential leakers against Trump.

. 5.He did not confer with the FBI or the Justice Department. He did not ask for any classification review despite one of the parties described being the president of the United States. He simply sent the memos to a law professor to serve as a conduit to the media.

6. Comey asked why Trump would ask everyone to leave the Oval Office to speak with Comey unless he was doing something improper. Yet, Trump could ask why Comey would use a third party to leak these memos if they were his property and there was nothing improper in their public release.

7. (Comey) is suggesting that any federal employee effectively owns documents created during federal employment in relation to an ongoing investigation so long as they address the information to themselves. FBI agents routinely write such memos in investigations. They are called 302s to memorialize field interviews or fact acquisitions. They are treated as FBI information.

8.The Justice Department routinely claims such memos as privileged and covered by the deliberative process privilege and other privileges.

He just woke up in the middle of night upset about Trump’s name calling and released the damaging information. In doing so, he used these memos not as a shield but a sword.

9. Besides being subject to nondisclosure agreements, Comey falls under federal laws governing the disclosure of classified and unclassified information. Assuming that the memos were not classified (though it seems odd that it would not be classified even on the confidential level), there is 18 U.S.C. § 641

10. When Comey released the information, he knew that he was going to be called to Congress where he could disclose this information properly after giving the White House a chance to claim privilege. Instead, he decided to release the information early. Why?


11. The fact is that the leaking of the memos worked to the advantage of James Comey, not Robert Mueller. Comey was able to take over the narrative and news cycle after Trump had publicly belittled him and his record.


12. (Trump) was able to bait Comey with his tweets and cause Comey to diminish his own credibility. If the comments of Trump were grossly inappropriate, Comey’s response to those comments were equally
inappropriate.

OPINION: The damaging case against James Comey

This puts the entire narrative in the proper perspective. When trying to attack Trump in a "he said - he said situation," Comey has put himself in a dubious position which actually makes you wonder about his integrity and ability to overcome the fight for revenge when following the rules and laws put before him as an agent of the government.
He may very well put himself in jeopardy more that he put Trump.

Oh noes the Trumper has been triggered! Time to resort to character attacks!

Who gives a shit about Comey...there is a current investigation into Russian involvement with the Trump campaign that he isn't in charge of. Once the results of that investigation come out we will know better what is true or not rather than simply jumping on one side or the other based off of nothing but hopes and dreams.

 

[radical right]

Well Comey was fired so none of it would apply. Or do you still wear your McDonalds hat to work when you are delivering pizza for Dominos

They are very narrow minded, thinking everything done while at work makes it the employers property. While true of some things, like inventions, or work produce, they apply it beyond it's scope.

If someone fills out a scholarship form while working at McDonalds, they think the scholarship belongs to McDonalds.

 

[mamooth]

A few of my FBI friends

Billy also claims to have famous scientist friends whenever the mood strikes him. He has all kinds of imaginary friends.

4 hours ago, Billy said charges were being filed. Billy, can you give us an update? What do your imaginary friends tell you?

Remember, no matter what the topic is, if Billy says it, it's likely the exact opposite is true.

 

[danielpalos]

Comey is a weasel. ......

It does appear that the entire scenario for Comey the last few days was, in essence revenge. It may got the best of him, making him look unethical and unable to see what he was doing was not in his best interests.

The conversations with Trump appears to be privileged, an FBI work product, "
The standard FBI employment agreement bars the unauthorized disclosure of information “contained in the files, electronic or paper, of the FBI” that impact the bureau and specifically pledges that “I will not reveal, by any means, any information or material from or related to FBI files or any other information acquired by virtue of my official employment to any unauthorized recipient without prior official written authorization by the FBI.”"

The fact that he leaked this via a third person doesn't bode well, either. He was clearly presenting this a day early so the Democrats could alter their questions from the original topic, The "Russian Investigation" to private conversations he had with the president.

seems, political.

yes, it does. and it's interesting you bring that up. By virtue of his position, he is supposed to be apolitical.

yes, so is our Commander in Chief.

Yet, we have "tax cuts for the rich" and foodstamp cuts for the poor.

 

[Jackson]

Comey is a weasel. ......

It does appear that the entire scenario for Comey the last few days was, in essence revenge. It may got the best of him, making him look unethical and unable to see what he was doing was not in his best interests.

The conversations with Trump appears to be privileged, an FBI work product, "
The standard FBI employment agreement bars the unauthorized disclosure of information “contained in the files, electronic or paper, of the FBI” that impact the bureau and specifically pledges that “I will not reveal, by any means, any information or material from or related to FBI files or any other information acquired by virtue of my official employment to any unauthorized recipient without prior official written authorization by the FBI.”"

The fact that he leaked this via a third person doesn't bode well, either. He was clearly presenting this a day early so the Democrats could alter their questions from the original topic, The "Russian Investigation" to private conversations he had with the president.

seems, political.

yes, it does. and it's interesting you bring that up. By virtue of his position, he is supposed to be apolitical.

yes, so is our Commander in Chief.

Yet, we have "tax cuts for the rich" and foodstamp cuts for the poor.

Spoken like a true liberal. BTW, The Commander In Chief also is head of his party, so it's hard for him to be apolitical.

 

[Clementine]

The damaging case against James Comey


1. After calling Comey a “showboat” and poor director, Comey proceeded to commit an unethical and unprofessional act in leaking damaging memos against Trump.

2. Comey described a series of ethical challenges during his term as FBI director. Yet, he almost uniformly avoided taking a firm stand in support of the professional standards of the FBI.

3, Trump allegedly asked for Comey to drop the investigation of Michael Flynn or pledge loyalty, Comey did not tell the president that he was engaging in wildly inappropriate conduct. He instead wrote a memo to file and told close aides. He now says that he wishes he had the courage or foresight to have taken a stand with the president.


4.However, the clearest violation came in the days following his termination. Comey admits that he gave the damaging memos to a friend at Columbia Law School with the full knowledge that the information would be given to the media. It was a particularly curious moment for a former director who was asked by the president to fight the leakers in the government. He proceeded in becoming one of the most consequential leakers against Trump.

. 5.He did not confer with the FBI or the Justice Department. He did not ask for any classification review despite one of the parties described being the president of the United States. He simply sent the memos to a law professor to serve as a conduit to the media.

6. Comey asked why Trump would ask everyone to leave the Oval Office to speak with Comey unless he was doing something improper. Yet, Trump could ask why Comey would use a third party to leak these memos if they were his property and there was nothing improper in their public release.

7. (Comey) is suggesting that any federal employee effectively owns documents created during federal employment in relation to an ongoing investigation so long as they address the information to themselves. FBI agents routinely write such memos in investigations. They are called 302s to memorialize field interviews or fact acquisitions. They are treated as FBI information.

8.The Justice Department routinely claims such memos as privileged and covered by the deliberative process privilege and other privileges.

He just woke up in the middle of night upset about Trump’s name calling and released the damaging information. In doing so, he used these memos not as a shield but a sword.

9. Besides being subject to nondisclosure agreements, Comey falls under federal laws governing the disclosure of classified and unclassified information. Assuming that the memos were not classified (though it seems odd that it would not be classified even on the confidential level), there is 18 U.S.C. § 641

10. When Comey released the information, he knew that he was going to be called to Congress where he could disclose this information properly after giving the White House a chance to claim privilege. Instead, he decided to release the information early. Why?


11. The fact is that the leaking of the memos worked to the advantage of James Comey, not Robert Mueller. Comey was able to take over the narrative and news cycle after Trump had publicly belittled him and his record.


12. (Trump) was able to bait Comey with his tweets and cause Comey to diminish his own credibility. If the comments of Trump were grossly inappropriate, Comey’s response to those comments were equally
inappropriate.

OPINION: The damaging case against James Comey

This puts the entire narrative in the proper perspective. When trying to attack Trump in a "he said - he said situation," Comey has put himself in a dubious position which actually makes you wonder about his integrity and ability to overcome the fight for revenge when following the rules and laws put before him as an agent of the government.
He may very well put himself in jeopardy more that he put Trump.

Comey now claims that he deleted the memo. And it looks like he told a friend about it who relayed info to the NYT. This was done way earlier than originally thought, as in before Trump went after Comey. Now there is no proof that a memo ever existed so it could have been entirely a lie. Comey has seemed to flip flop many times, starting with the Hillary investigation. Makes me think the Clintons have something on him. And he never turned over any notes regarding Hillary, which is also strange.

Also, Comey said that Trump was never under investigation. That being said, how it is possible for Trump to attempt to sway an investigation that doesn't exist? Unlike the way Bill Clinton clearly attempted to derail the investigation into his wife's emails, there is no smoking gun with Trump.

 

[danielpalos]

Comey is a weasel. ......

It does appear that the entire scenario for Comey the last few days was, in essence revenge. It may got the best of him, making him look unethical and unable to see what he was doing was not in his best interests.

The conversations with Trump appears to be privileged, an FBI work product, "
The standard FBI employment agreement bars the unauthorized disclosure of information “contained in the files, electronic or paper, of the FBI” that impact the bureau and specifically pledges that “I will not reveal, by any means, any information or material from or related to FBI files or any other information acquired by virtue of my official employment to any unauthorized recipient without prior official written authorization by the FBI.”"

The fact that he leaked this via a third person doesn't bode well, either. He was clearly presenting this a day early so the Democrats could alter their questions from the original topic, The "Russian Investigation" to private conversations he had with the president.

seems, political.

yes, it does. and it's interesting you bring that up. By virtue of his position, he is supposed to be apolitical.

yes, so is our Commander in Chief.

Yet, we have "tax cuts for the rich" and foodstamp cuts for the poor.

Spoken like a true liberal. BTW, The Commander In Chief also is head of his party, so it's hard for him to be apolitical.

Comity, gentlemen.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Comey committed no crime, not one of commission nor one of omission. His testimony under oath was credible, clear, concise and not once did he emphasis a statement with, "believe me". A comment which has come to be the biggest lie of this century, passing "the check is in the mail".

Comey did not receive a severance check nor did he sign a non disclosure agreement - he is a citizen whose right to speak is protected by the 1st A. of the Constitution. Of course this does not protect Mr. Comey, not in a nation where a person who laughed was arrested for laughing:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/03/us/code-pink-sessions-laughter-trial.html

 

[Seawytch]

The damaging case against James Comey


1. After calling Comey a “showboat” and poor director, Comey proceeded to commit an unethical and unprofessional act in leaking damaging memos against Trump.

2. Comey described a series of ethical challenges during his term as FBI director. Yet, he almost uniformly avoided taking a firm stand in support of the professional standards of the FBI.

3, Trump allegedly asked for Comey to drop the investigation of Michael Flynn or pledge loyalty, Comey did not tell the president that he was engaging in wildly inappropriate conduct. He instead wrote a memo to file and told close aides. He now says that he wishes he had the courage or foresight to have taken a stand with the president.


4.However, the clearest violation came in the days following his termination. Comey admits that he gave the damaging memos to a friend at Columbia Law School with the full knowledge that the information would be given to the media. It was a particularly curious moment for a former director who was asked by the president to fight the leakers in the government. He proceeded in becoming one of the most consequential leakers against Trump.

. 5.He did not confer with the FBI or the Justice Department. He did not ask for any classification review despite one of the parties described being the president of the United States. He simply sent the memos to a law professor to serve as a conduit to the media.

6. Comey asked why Trump would ask everyone to leave the Oval Office to speak with Comey unless he was doing something improper. Yet, Trump could ask why Comey would use a third party to leak these memos if they were his property and there was nothing improper in their public release.

7. (Comey) is suggesting that any federal employee effectively owns documents created during federal employment in relation to an ongoing investigation so long as they address the information to themselves. FBI agents routinely write such memos in investigations. They are called 302s to memorialize field interviews or fact acquisitions. They are treated as FBI information.

8.The Justice Department routinely claims such memos as privileged and covered by the deliberative process privilege and other privileges.

He just woke up in the middle of night upset about Trump’s name calling and released the damaging information. In doing so, he used these memos not as a shield but a sword.

9. Besides being subject to nondisclosure agreements, Comey falls under federal laws governing the disclosure of classified and unclassified information. Assuming that the memos were not classified (though it seems odd that it would not be classified even on the confidential level), there is 18 U.S.C. § 641

10. When Comey released the information, he knew that he was going to be called to Congress where he could disclose this information properly after giving the White House a chance to claim privilege. Instead, he decided to release the information early. Why?


11. The fact is that the leaking of the memos worked to the advantage of James Comey, not Robert Mueller. Comey was able to take over the narrative and news cycle after Trump had publicly belittled him and his record.


12. (Trump) was able to bait Comey with his tweets and cause Comey to diminish his own credibility. If the comments of Trump were grossly inappropriate, Comey’s response to those comments were equally
inappropriate.

OPINION: The damaging case against James Comey

This puts the entire narrative in the proper perspective. When trying to attack Trump in a "he said - he said situation," Comey has put himself in a dubious position which actually makes you wonder about his integrity and ability to overcome the fight for revenge when following the rules and laws put before him as an agent of the government.
He may very well put himself in jeopardy more that he put Trump.

Comey now claims that he deleted the memo. And it looks like he told a friend about it who relayed info to the NYT. This was done way earlier than originally thought, as in before Trump went after Comey. Now there is no proof that a memo ever existed so it could have been entirely a lie. Comey has seemed to flip flop many times, starting with the Hillary investigation. Makes me think the Clintons have something on him. And he never turned over any notes regarding Hillary, which is also strange.

You're parroting Crooked Donnie Small Hands lawyer. He got it wrong.

Fact-checking Trump's attorney on Comey's testimony

Also, Comey said that Trump was never under investigation. That being said, how it is possible for Trump to attempt to sway an investigation that doesn't exist? Unlike the way Bill Clinton clearly attempted to derail the investigation into his wife's emails, there is no smoking gun with Trump.

Interference in ANY investigation is obstruction. Flynn is under criminal investigation.