The Death Throes of Democracy

[kaz]

Wow....looks like Coulter was right again!

"Liberals don't read books – they don't read anything … That's why they're liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."

You don;t need books when you have the internet..

The Internet is like a gun. It can be a great tool if you know how to use it effectively and safely. It can be a dangerous threat to yourself and others if you don't. Unfortunately you don't or you would have used it to realize how wrong liberalism is

Liberalism is not one set of rules to any one person....

Actually, the biggest problem is that it is. You all not only have the same position on every issue, but you justify those idiotic positions with the same talking points.

George Patton: If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking

The problem with liberalism in a nutshell. That's why you can't even engage in lucid discussions about the issues. You would have to question your positions to do that, and you can't, it's against the programming.

Your programmed response will be to say how stupid and ridiculous what I said is, and not provide any counter examples ...

Impossible, since you all is a generalized term to mean all, which is illogical to assume that every single person may claim to be a liberal, but not all can have the same perception of being a liberal...

I called that one!!!!

 

[PoliticalChic]

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So, you are ready to give the land back to the natives?

I'm all for it. After all, I am a full blood Seminole. We never polluted the land.

You have never taken a crap?

And here we have both the brilliance and the level of discourse of Liberals.

 

[PoliticalChic]

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So, you are ready to give the land back to the natives?

Why?

They didn't own it.

Americans don't own the USA, they may think they do, but that can be gone in a blink of an eye..

Well.....since the provenance was the reign of FDR....it hasn't been the blink of an eye....

 

[PoliticalChic]

It isn't to hard to figure that a lot of people really don't trust the masses with their own government. A case to consider is audit the fed bill. The number one argument against that is that if the masses knew what was going on they would act on every stupid impulse and tell their politicians to do those supposedly stupid things. It is better to let ELITES run it in secret so that the people can't ever object to what is going on with the nation's banking system. What if we applied that philosophy to everything our government does. We may pass a healthcare bill in secret and our elites will tell us things like 'we need to pass before you can see what is in it'...wait...that already did happen. You get the point. There was a time when people would never have tolerated this kind of crap. That was about a hundred years ago. Now we are all conditioned to think that our masters know what is best for us and we better not complain about all the wonderful gifts they give us.

"Now we are all conditioned to think that our masters know what is best for us and we better not complain about all the wonderful gifts they give us."


Not all of us.

If it twernt for the Heritage Foundation, you'd still be pushin' David Duke porn..

I already identified you as an inveterate liar.....

...there was no need for you to return and prove it.

You have proven nothing but an usurper of truth, honor and dignity, because of your slanted inversion of history with a political purpose..

"You have proven nothing but an usurper of truth, ..."

A simple challenge for a simple mind: find anything in my posts that is untrue....

...including identifying you as a liar.

 

[kaz]

Wow....looks like Coulter was right again!

"Liberals don't read books – they don't read anything … That's why they're liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."

You don;t need books when you have the internet..

The Internet is like a gun. It can be a great tool if you know how to use it effectively and safely. It can be a dangerous threat to yourself and others if you don't. Unfortunately you don't or you would have used it to realize how wrong liberalism is

it also requires you to actually understand what you read ... you seem to have this problem of understanding what you read ... take for instance the laws about classified documents ... you botched that one big time

Classified documents? I think you're confusing me with someone

did you accuse hillary of violating the classified and top secret laws ??? the law where you claim by having a private server violated that law ??? where not only did you quoted the law but you posted it here on some of the threads ??/ if you didn't then I stand in error

No, I didn't. You may remember me from a discussion on that, but I never said what specific law she violated so you're definitely confusing me with someone. I argued that anyone who works with or for government knows about the extensive requirements on government for record keeping due to laws like the freedom of information act

1) It's not possible the Secretary of State didn't know that

2) Everyone in her office would know that, obviously she kept it secret. Why would she say nothing if she didn't know it was wrong?

3) The people who set it up knew it was wrong or they would have asked her to connect them with the State Department IT as that would be a lot easier to work with them to set something like that up

But I didn't argue the specific laws or any specific laws. If you knew what you were talking about you would just look at the list above and say yeah, clearly

 

[PoliticalChic]

Any Liberals care to argue that the Founders presented us with a Fascist nation?
No?
As I said....when FDR looked around for economic policies to follow, where did Roosevelt turn? Mussolini. Fascism.

See where I'm going with the title " The Death Throes of Democracy"?



A bit more proof? Sure.

5. Roosevelt and his New Deal bureaucrats studied Mussolini’s corporatism closely. From “Fortune” magazine: ‘The Corporate state is to Mussolini what the New Deal is to Roosevelt.’(July 1934)

"Rex Tugwell, FDR's economic adviser, was opposed to any private business not controlled by the government. General Hugh Johnson was working with Tugwell on a bill to create the NRA, and gave Perkins (Sec'y of Labor) the book by Rafaello Viglione, "The Corporate State," in which the neat Italian system of dictatorship for the benefit of the people was glowingly described."
Francis Perkins, "The Roosevelt I Knew."
(Better look up who Francis Perkins was, Libs....)


The NRA was copied from Mussolini's corporative system."


a. Perkins questioned whether Johnson 'really understood the democratic process..." New Dealers had no problem with the fascist nature of their plans.


b. "Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p.48




6. People were beginning to recognize the fascist nature of the National Recovery Administration(NRA), code when they saw "... the jailing of a New Jersey tailor named Jack Magid, whose crime was pressing a suit for thirty-five cents when the code fixed the price at forty cents."

The Supreme Court, May 27, 1935, declared the NRA unconstitutional. (The court ruled that Congress had delegated the law-making authority to the President and the NRA.


The Supreme Court gave up its independenence shortly thereafter.

 

[kaz]

Wow....looks like Coulter was right again!

"Liberals don't read books – they don't read anything … That's why they're liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."

You don;t need books when you have the internet..

The Internet is like a gun. It can be a great tool if you know how to use it effectively and safely. It can be a dangerous threat to yourself and others if you don't. Unfortunately you don't or you would have used it to realize how wrong liberalism is

Liberalism is not one set of rules to any one person....

Liberalism, socialism, Fascism, Communism, Nazism, or Progressivism....all have the same central view:

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’

The dichotomy that is today’s political reality is based on this retreat, as the American left simply flipped from the brown-shirt utopians to the red-flag utopians, parroting Stalin’s rhetoric: anything objectionable is fascist."
Goldberg

There have been more despots of republics than ever of democracies...

Examples? You really hate providing examples, don't you?

 

[NYcarbineer]

You don;t need books when you have the internet..

The Internet is like a gun. It can be a great tool if you know how to use it effectively and safely. It can be a dangerous threat to yourself and others if you don't. Unfortunately you don't or you would have used it to realize how wrong liberalism is

Liberalism is not one set of rules to any one person....

Liberalism, socialism, Fascism, Communism, Nazism, or Progressivism....all have the same central view:

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’

The dichotomy that is today’s political reality is based on this retreat, as the American left simply flipped from the brown-shirt utopians to the red-flag utopians, parroting Stalin’s rhetoric: anything objectionable is fascist."
Goldberg

There have been more despots of republics than ever of democracies...

Examples? You really hate providing examples, don't you?

Name a despotic democracy.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It isn't to hard to figure that a lot of people really don't trust the masses with their own government. A case to consider is audit the fed bill. The number one argument against that is that if the masses knew what was going on they would act on every stupid impulse and tell their politicians to do those supposedly stupid things. It is better to let ELITES run it in secret so that the people can't ever object to what is going on with the nation's banking system. What if we applied that philosophy to everything our government does. We may pass a healthcare bill in secret and our elites will tell us things like 'we need to pass before you can see what is in it'...wait...that already did happen. You get the point. There was a time when people would never have tolerated this kind of crap. That was about a hundred years ago. Now we are all conditioned to think that our masters know what is best for us and we better not complain about all the wonderful gifts they give us.

"Now we are all conditioned to think that our masters know what is best for us and we better not complain about all the wonderful gifts they give us."


Not all of us.

If it twernt for the Heritage Foundation, you'd still be pushin' David Duke porn..

I already identified you as an inveterate liar.....

...there was no need for you to return and prove it.

You have proven nothing but an usurper of truth, honor and dignity, because of your slanted inversion of history with a political purpose..

"You have proven nothing but an usurper of truth, ..."

A simple challenge for a simple mind: find anything in my posts that is untrue....

...including identifying you as a liar.

Your OP was proven untrue the last 10 times you posted it. Go back and look.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You don;t need books when you have the internet..

The Internet is like a gun. It can be a great tool if you know how to use it effectively and safely. It can be a dangerous threat to yourself and others if you don't. Unfortunately you don't or you would have used it to realize how wrong liberalism is

Liberalism is not one set of rules to any one person....

Liberalism, socialism, Fascism, Communism, Nazism, or Progressivism....all have the same central view:

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’

The dichotomy that is today’s political reality is based on this retreat, as the American left simply flipped from the brown-shirt utopians to the red-flag utopians, parroting Stalin’s rhetoric: anything objectionable is fascist."
Goldberg

There have been more despots of republics than ever of democracies...

Examples? You really hate providing examples, don't you?

Know why?

"We don' need no stinkin' books"

 

[billyerock1991]

You don;t need books when you have the internet..

The Internet is like a gun. It can be a great tool if you know how to use it effectively and safely. It can be a dangerous threat to yourself and others if you don't. Unfortunately you don't or you would have used it to realize how wrong liberalism is

it also requires you to actually understand what you read ... you seem to have this problem of understanding what you read ... take for instance the laws about classified documents ... you botched that one big time

Classified documents? I think you're confusing me with someone

did you accuse hillary of violating the classified and top secret laws ??? the law where you claim by having a private server violated that law ??? where not only did you quoted the law but you posted it here on some of the threads ??/ if you didn't then I stand in error

No, I didn't. You may remember me from a discussion on that, but I never said what specific law she violated so you're definitely confusing me with someone. I argued that anyone who works with or for government knows about the extensive requirements on government for record keeping due to laws like the freedom of information act

1) It's not possible the Secretary of State didn't know that

2) Everyone in her office would know that, obviously she kept it secret. Why would she say nothing if she didn't know it was wrong?

3) The people who set it up knew it was wrong or they would have asked her to connect them with the State Department IT as that would be a lot easier to work with them to set something like that up

But I didn't argue the specific laws or any specific laws. If you knew what you were talking about you would just look at the list above and say yeah, clearly

I have debate this so many times some time one gets confused on who said what and when ... but i do remember you saying this very same thing ...I said to you that the freedom and information act only affects government documents, not private documents ... according to Hillary at that time her emails on her private server were considered private and not government documents ... then I also pointed out that there wasn't any firm law that said you can't have a private server... that law was changed in 2014 ... but you kept holding to this notion that some of her emails were classified ... I pointed out to you, at the time, accordimng to the FBI and not FOX news, that they haven't found any classified or top secret emails on her server at that time .... and they still haven't ... but you still insisted she was a criminal that she violated a law ... at that time I ask for this law you speak of and I believe you posted it... then I pointed out where you were wrong


P.S.
plus the way the laws are written at that time, they all the law stated if you have a classified document and a foreign government gets a hold of that document you can be held responsible ... but there wasn't any law at that time saying you couldn't put any classified or top secret document on your private server ... the law only said if a foreign government got it you were held responsible ... no foreign government has any of her emails

 

[kaz]

The Internet is like a gun. It can be a great tool if you know how to use it effectively and safely. It can be a dangerous threat to yourself and others if you don't. Unfortunately you don't or you would have used it to realize how wrong liberalism is

it also requires you to actually understand what you read ... you seem to have this problem of understanding what you read ... take for instance the laws about classified documents ... you botched that one big time

Classified documents? I think you're confusing me with someone

did you accuse hillary of violating the classified and top secret laws ??? the law where you claim by having a private server violated that law ??? where not only did you quoted the law but you posted it here on some of the threads ??/ if you didn't then I stand in error

No, I didn't. You may remember me from a discussion on that, but I never said what specific law she violated so you're definitely confusing me with someone. I argued that anyone who works with or for government knows about the extensive requirements on government for record keeping due to laws like the freedom of information act

1) It's not possible the Secretary of State didn't know that

2) Everyone in her office would know that, obviously she kept it secret. Why would she say nothing if she didn't know it was wrong?

3) The people who set it up knew it was wrong or they would have asked her to connect them with the State Department IT as that would be a lot easier to work with them to set something like that up

But I didn't argue the specific laws or any specific laws. If you knew what you were talking about you would just look at the list above and say yeah, clearly

I have debate this so many times some time one gets confused on who said what and when ... but i do remember you saying this very same thing ...I said to you that the freedom and information act only affects government documents, not private documents ... according to Hillary at that time her emails on her private server were considered private and not government documents ... then I also pointed out that there wasn't any firm law that said you can't have a private server... that law was changed in 2014 ... but you kept holding to this notion that some of her emails were classified ... I pointed out to you, at the time, accordimng to the FBI and not FOX news, that they haven't found any classified or top secret emails on her server at that time .... and they still haven't ... but you still insisted she was a criminal that she violated a law ... at that time I ask for this law you speak of and I believe you posted it... then I pointed out where you were wrong

I never argued the point about the "classified" documents, I said you can't do what she did, period. That documents conducting any business (classified or not) for her job are "private" is categorically ridiculous. That is the point I argued.

All your arguments over "classified documents" were with other people. That point is irrelevant, she can't do it, period. She knows that, the people in her office know that, and her IT people setting it up knew that. If she really had been innocent, she wouldn't have hidden it. Apparently the FBI knows that too. It's just you who don't.

I spent my career in commercial consulting, but I did do two government projects. One was for DARPA. The actual inventor of the Internet, sorry Al Gore. One of the projects I led for them was setting up procedures for keeping documents for the freedom of information act. As a research organization, those processes were to be rolled out across the government. They were setting up to keep freaking everything. That was in the mid 90s in the middle of Slick's Presidency.

 

[billyerock1991]

Any Liberals care to argue that the Founders presented us with a Fascist nation?
No?
As I said....when FDR looked around for economic policies to follow, where did Roosevelt turn? Mussolini. Fascism.

See where I'm going with the title " The Death Throes of Democracy"?



A bit more proof? Sure.

5. Roosevelt and his New Deal bureaucrats studied Mussolini’s corporatism closely. From “Fortune” magazine: ‘The Corporate state is to Mussolini what the New Deal is to Roosevelt.’(July 1934)

"Rex Tugwell, FDR's economic adviser, was opposed to any private business not controlled by the government. General Hugh Johnson was working with Tugwell on a bill to create the NRA, and gave Perkins (Sec'y of Labor) the book by Rafaello Viglione, "The Corporate State," in which the neat Italian system of dictatorship for the benefit of the people was glowingly described."
Francis Perkins, "The Roosevelt I Knew."
(Better look up who Francis Perkins was, Libs....)


The NRA was copied from Mussolini's corporative system."


a. Perkins questioned whether Johnson 'really understood the democratic process..." New Dealers had no problem with the fascist nature of their plans.


b. "Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p.48




6. People were beginning to recognize the fascist nature of the National Recovery Administration(NRA), code when they saw "... the jailing of a New Jersey tailor named Jack Magid, whose crime was pressing a suit for thirty-five cents when the code fixed the price at forty cents."

The Supreme Court, May 27, 1935, declared the NRA unconstitutional. (The court ruled that Congress had delegated the law-making authority to the President and the NRA.


The Supreme Court gave up its independenence shortly thereafter.

nothing like a far right wing writer telling us about FDR

 

[billyerock1991]

it also requires you to actually understand what you read ... you seem to have this problem of understanding what you read ... take for instance the laws about classified documents ... you botched that one big time

Classified documents? I think you're confusing me with someone

did you accuse hillary of violating the classified and top secret laws ??? the law where you claim by having a private server violated that law ??? where not only did you quoted the law but you posted it here on some of the threads ??/ if you didn't then I stand in error

No, I didn't. You may remember me from a discussion on that, but I never said what specific law she violated so you're definitely confusing me with someone. I argued that anyone who works with or for government knows about the extensive requirements on government for record keeping due to laws like the freedom of information act

1) It's not possible the Secretary of State didn't know that

2) Everyone in her office would know that, obviously she kept it secret. Why would she say nothing if she didn't know it was wrong?

3) The people who set it up knew it was wrong or they would have asked her to connect them with the State Department IT as that would be a lot easier to work with them to set something like that up

But I didn't argue the specific laws or any specific laws. If you knew what you were talking about you would just look at the list above and say yeah, clearly

I have debate this so many times some time one gets confused on who said what and when ... but i do remember you saying this very same thing ...I said to you that the freedom and information act only affects government documents, not private documents ... according to Hillary at that time her emails on her private server were considered private and not government documents ... then I also pointed out that there wasn't any firm law that said you can't have a private server... that law was changed in 2014 ... but you kept holding to this notion that some of her emails were classified ... I pointed out to you, at the time, accordimng to the FBI and not FOX news, that they haven't found any classified or top secret emails on her server at that time .... and they still haven't ... but you still insisted she was a criminal that she violated a law ... at that time I ask for this law you speak of and I believe you posted it... then I pointed out where you were wrong

I never argued the point about the "classified" documents, I said you can't do what she did, period. That documents conducting any business (classified or not) for her job are "private" is categorically ridiculous. That is the point I argued.

All your arguments over "classified documents" were with other people. That point is irrelevant, she can't do it, period. She knows that, the people in her office know that, and her IT people setting it up knew that. If she really had been innocent, she wouldn't have hidden it. Apparently the FBI knows that too. It's just you who don't.

I spent my career in commercial consulting, but I did do two government projects. One was for DARPA. The actual inventor of the Internet, sorry Al Gore. One of the projects I led for them was setting up procedures for keeping documents for the freedom of information act. As a research organization, those processes were to be rolled out across the government. They were setting up to keep freaking everything. That was in the mid 90s in the middle of Slick's Presidency.

there isn't any law that says she can't ... thats the whole point here ... you missed it then and you keep missing it now ... thats why she took the rout she did ... you keep saying she can't have a private server for her private emails and thats not true ... there isn't any government laws at that time that says she can't .. you told me about your so-called job then and at that time I stated to you, where dose it says in the law that you can't have a private server for your private emails ... you couldn't come up with any law that said that ... you trying to buffalo us with your so-caled knowledge of a law that does't exist at that time ... so stop your bull shit there was a law against it then an because it became a issue with republicans it got changed ...

 

[NYcarbineer]

You don;t need books when you have the internet..

The Internet is like a gun. It can be a great tool if you know how to use it effectively and safely. It can be a dangerous threat to yourself and others if you don't. Unfortunately you don't or you would have used it to realize how wrong liberalism is

Liberalism is not one set of rules to any one person....

Liberalism, socialism, Fascism, Communism, Nazism, or Progressivism....all have the same central view:

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’

The dichotomy that is today’s political reality is based on this retreat, as the American left simply flipped from the brown-shirt utopians to the red-flag utopians, parroting Stalin’s rhetoric: anything objectionable is fascist."
Goldberg

There have been more despots of republics than ever of democracies...

Examples? You really hate providing examples, don't you?

The Weimar Republic.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Any Liberals care to argue that the Founders presented us with a Fascist nation?
No?
As I said....when FDR looked around for economic policies to follow, where did Roosevelt turn? Mussolini. Fascism.

See where I'm going with the title " The Death Throes of Democracy"?



A bit more proof? Sure.

5. Roosevelt and his New Deal bureaucrats studied Mussolini’s corporatism closely. From “Fortune” magazine: ‘The Corporate state is to Mussolini what the New Deal is to Roosevelt.’(July 1934)

"Rex Tugwell, FDR's economic adviser, was opposed to any private business not controlled by the government. General Hugh Johnson was working with Tugwell on a bill to create the NRA, and gave Perkins (Sec'y of Labor) the book by Rafaello Viglione, "The Corporate State," in which the neat Italian system of dictatorship for the benefit of the people was glowingly described."
Francis Perkins, "The Roosevelt I Knew."
(Better look up who Francis Perkins was, Libs....)


The NRA was copied from Mussolini's corporative system."


a. Perkins questioned whether Johnson 'really understood the democratic process..." New Dealers had no problem with the fascist nature of their plans.


b. "Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p.48




6. People were beginning to recognize the fascist nature of the National Recovery Administration(NRA), code when they saw "... the jailing of a New Jersey tailor named Jack Magid, whose crime was pressing a suit for thirty-five cents when the code fixed the price at forty cents."

The Supreme Court, May 27, 1935, declared the NRA unconstitutional. (The court ruled that Congress had delegated the law-making authority to the President and the NRA.


The Supreme Court gave up its independenence shortly thereafter.

nothing like a far right wing writer telling us about FDR

1. There is no "far right" in this country....only a 'Far Left.'

2. I'm not 'telling you about FDR'....I'm teaching you.
The proof of same is that none of you brain-dead drones has found even one thing I've posted about him that is untrue nor inaccurate.

Hence....'teaching.'

 

[billyerock1991]

Any Liberals care to argue that the Founders presented us with a Fascist nation?
No?
As I said....when FDR looked around for economic policies to follow, where did Roosevelt turn? Mussolini. Fascism.

See where I'm going with the title " The Death Throes of Democracy"?



A bit more proof? Sure.

5. Roosevelt and his New Deal bureaucrats studied Mussolini’s corporatism closely. From “Fortune” magazine: ‘The Corporate state is to Mussolini what the New Deal is to Roosevelt.’(July 1934)

"Rex Tugwell, FDR's economic adviser, was opposed to any private business not controlled by the government. General Hugh Johnson was working with Tugwell on a bill to create the NRA, and gave Perkins (Sec'y of Labor) the book by Rafaello Viglione, "The Corporate State," in which the neat Italian system of dictatorship for the benefit of the people was glowingly described."
Francis Perkins, "The Roosevelt I Knew."
(Better look up who Francis Perkins was, Libs....)


The NRA was copied from Mussolini's corporative system."


a. Perkins questioned whether Johnson 'really understood the democratic process..." New Dealers had no problem with the fascist nature of their plans.


b. "Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p.48




6. People were beginning to recognize the fascist nature of the National Recovery Administration(NRA), code when they saw "... the jailing of a New Jersey tailor named Jack Magid, whose crime was pressing a suit for thirty-five cents when the code fixed the price at forty cents."

The Supreme Court, May 27, 1935, declared the NRA unconstitutional. (The court ruled that Congress had delegated the law-making authority to the President and the NRA.


The Supreme Court gave up its independenence shortly thereafter.

nothing like a far right wing writer telling us about FDR

1. There is no "far right" in this country....only a 'Far Left.'

2. I'm not 'telling you about FDR'....I'm teaching you.
The proof of same is that none of you brain-dead drones has found even one thing I've posted about him that is untrue nor inaccurate.

Hence....'teaching.'

BWA HAHAHAHJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!
you teaching
BWA HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!
how about writing your own version of history by the use of some right wing nut job like you ..

teaching ??? YOU ???

TOOOOOOOOOOO FUNNY

 

[Dot Com]

1. Funny how ironic the Liberal/Progressive motto 'from cradle to grave' turned out to be.

American democracy survived from it's birth.....the cradle.....until the primacy of the Liberals/Progressive: the regime of the 32nd President.
FDR dug its grave.

....American democracy, as defined by the United States Constitution, ended up in the grave.




2. As imagined by our Founders, the nation was balanced by checks imposed by conflicting motives and views.
The operating manual, the Constitution, set specific functions for the federal government, and reserved the rest for the states and for the individual citizens.


a. "Our Founders envisioned the states as laboratories of democracy and enshrined into our Constitution the principle of federalism. Under federalist principles, the American people endowed the national government with a defined set of limited, enumerated powers in the Constitution. Any powers beyond those specifically given to the federal government fall entirely within the province of the states. Federalism protects liberty by protecting against the overreaching of any one branch of our federal government, and is part of the uniquely American system of checks and balances."
Paloma Zepeda, "Reinventing the Right."


b. The idea that the reach of the federal government would be restricted to a few enumerated powers is articulated by Madison in Federalist No. 45:

"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite."






This is a good time to consider two points about America:

a. Do you agree with the Founders about checks and balances, or would you rather be governed by a vast government with no restrictions on what it can do?

b. Do you weight how you vote in light of your decision about 'a.' above?



3. That brings me to the 32nd President, and how his reign ended the guidance of the Constitution. Giving Roosevelt the benefit of the doubt, let's assume that he had the best interests of America at heart, he wanted to cure the recession that Hoover's plans produced.....a recession that was turning into a depression....

a. "Unemployment in 1930 averaged a mildly recessionary 8.9 percent, up from 3.2 percent in 1929. It shot up rapidly until peaking out at more than 25 percent in 1933.... . If this crash had been like previous ones, the hard times would have ended in two or three years at the most, and likely sooner than that. But unprecedented political bungling instead prolonged the misery for over 10 years." Great Myths of the Great Depression | Lawrence W. Reed

b. While "The Depression" is probably the only economic downturn ever studied in government schools, few ever speak of any depressions or recessions prior to the "Great Depression."
Know how many there were?
Over thirty. And the average length was a couple of years.
List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

c. "The Great Depression(1929-39) was the deepest andlongest-lasting economic downturn in the history of the Western industrialized world. In the United States, ..." The Great Depression - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com


It sure was a good excuse for overturning the Constitution.

Unemployment peaked in FDR's first year in office, and yet nuts like PoliticalChic blame him for that high unemployment as if he'd been in office since 1930.

thats our PoliticalSpice.

 

[there4eyeM]

Guffaw!!! Far left? There is no far left in America. There is no far right. No one is sophisticated enough for either direction. Would that there were! Then, the real contrasts might be obvious even to the blissfully naîve Americans.

 

[billyerock1991]

Any Liberals care to argue that the Founders presented us with a Fascist nation?
No?
As I said....when FDR looked around for economic policies to follow, where did Roosevelt turn? Mussolini. Fascism.

See where I'm going with the title " The Death Throes of Democracy"?



A bit more proof? Sure.

5. Roosevelt and his New Deal bureaucrats studied Mussolini’s corporatism closely. From “Fortune” magazine: ‘The Corporate state is to Mussolini what the New Deal is to Roosevelt.’(July 1934)

"Rex Tugwell, FDR's economic adviser, was opposed to any private business not controlled by the government. General Hugh Johnson was working with Tugwell on a bill to create the NRA, and gave Perkins (Sec'y of Labor) the book by Rafaello Viglione, "The Corporate State," in which the neat Italian system of dictatorship for the benefit of the people was glowingly described."
Francis Perkins, "The Roosevelt I Knew."
(Better look up who Francis Perkins was, Libs....)


The NRA was copied from Mussolini's corporative system."


a. Perkins questioned whether Johnson 'really understood the democratic process..." New Dealers had no problem with the fascist nature of their plans.


b. "Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p.48




6. People were beginning to recognize the fascist nature of the National Recovery Administration(NRA), code when they saw "... the jailing of a New Jersey tailor named Jack Magid, whose crime was pressing a suit for thirty-five cents when the code fixed the price at forty cents."

The Supreme Court, May 27, 1935, declared the NRA unconstitutional. (The court ruled that Congress had delegated the law-making authority to the President and the NRA.


The Supreme Court gave up its independenence shortly thereafter.

nothing like a far right wing writer telling us about FDR

1. There is no "far right" in this country....only a 'Far Left.'

2. I'm not 'telling you about FDR'....I'm teaching you.
The proof of same is that none of you brain-dead drones has found even one thing I've posted about him that is untrue nor inaccurate.

Hence....'teaching.'

come back when you really know what a liberal/Dem is... not some writes opinion on what a liberal/dem is