The House has Passed Two Stimulus Bills. The Senate has not acted.

[Desperado]

Shouldn't both houses get together and hammer out a bill and then send it to the President?

One would think that is the way t would work, but with Pelosi that is all but impossible

Pelosi and the Democrats did their job. You and I (to be truthful) may not like it but all the House or Senate can do is pass legislation. They did that. Twice. The Senate is doing nothing. So your post is simply not factual.

The Senate did their job, they outright rejected the bills
What is so hard to understand?

 

[progressive hunter]

This is why we need line item vetoes

this is why we need single item bills,,,

if it has to be hidden in a bill that has nothing in common with it it doesnt deserve to exist,,,

 

[candycorn]

I'm struck by the line in Hamilton. Madison and Jefferson wanted the Capitol in the South. Hamilton wanted to create the national bank. It was two separate issues.

I'm going from memory here so it may not be 100% accurate:


BURR: And Madison responds with Virginian insight
MADISON: Maybe we can solve one problem with another and win a victory for the Southerners, in other words
JEFFERSON: Oh ho
MADISON: A quid pro quo
JEFFERSON: I suppose
MADISON: Wouldn't you like to work a little closer to home
JEFFERSON: Actually, I would
MADISON: Well, I propose the Potomac
JEFFERSON: And you'll provide him his votes
MADISON: Well, we'll see how it goes

If the President is going to be involved and his approval of action is important to the Senate it would seem as though such a thing could be hammered out. Probably not the wall since it's so contentious but there are a plethora of other things I'm sure the House would consider. Remember the infrastructure bill?

Priorities | The White House

President Biden will deliver bold action and immediate relief for American families as the country grapples with converging crises. This will include actions to control the COVID-19 pandemic, provide economic relief, tackle climate change, and advance racial equity and civil rights, as well as...

www.whitehouse.gov

Why not put that into the mix. The House gets it's relief in whatever measure is decided, the infrastructure bill the President couldn't get off the ground gets done...

Unless, the Senate R's are just not that interested in giving this President what he wants.... That looks more and more the case really. Because in the end, it's a dollar amount we're talking about; when there are two amounts, the obvious thing to do is find the midpoint. Easy. But I'm not too sure the Senate R's are completely on board with Trump any longer. It sure seems that way.

 

[candycorn]

Shouldn't both houses get together and hammer out a bill and then send it to the President?

One would think that is the way t would work, but with Pelosi that is all but impossible

Pelosi and the Democrats did their job. You and I (to be truthful) may not like it but all the House or Senate can do is pass legislation. They did that. Twice. The Senate is doing nothing. So your post is simply not factual.

The Senate did their job, they outright rejected the bills
What is so hard to understand?

They did? What was the final vote on the bills?

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm struck by the line in Hamilton. Madison and Jefferson wanted the Capitol in the South. Hamilton wanted to create the national bank. It was two separate issues.

I'm going from memory here so it may not be 100% accurate:


BURR: And Madison responds with Virginian insight
MADISON: Maybe we can solve one problem with another and win a victory for the Southerners, in other words
JEFFERSON: Oh ho
MADISON: A quid pro quo
JEFFERSON: I suppose
MADISON: Wouldn't you like to work a little closer to home
JEFFERSON: Actually, I would
MADISON: Well, I propose the Potomac
JEFFERSON: And you'll provide him his votes
MADISON: Well, we'll see how it goes

If the President is going to be involved and his approval of action is important to the Senate it would seem as though such a thing could be hammered out. Probably not the wall since it's so contentious but there are a plethora of other things I'm sure the House would consider. Remember the infrastructure bill?

Priorities | The White House

President Biden will deliver bold action and immediate relief for American families as the country grapples with converging crises. This will include actions to control the COVID-19 pandemic, provide economic relief, tackle climate change, and advance racial equity and civil rights, as well as...

www.whitehouse.gov

Why not put that into the mix. The House gets it's relief in whatever measure is decided, the infrastructure bill the President couldn't get off the ground gets done...

Unless, the Senate R's are just not that interested in giving this President what he wants.... That looks more and more the case really. Because in the end, it's a dollar amount we're talking about; when there are two amounts, the obvious thing to do is find the midpoint. Easy. But I'm not too sure the Senate R's are completely on board with Trump any longer. It sure seems that way.

why not just send a clean single item bill???

sounds so easy even a caveman can do it,,,

 

[Desperado]

Shouldn't both houses get together and hammer out a bill and then send it to the President?

One would think that is the way t would work, but with Pelosi that is all but impossible

Pelosi and the Democrats did their job. You and I (to be truthful) may not like it but all the House or Senate can do is pass legislation. They did that. Twice. The Senate is doing nothing. So your post is simply not factual.

The Senate did their job, they outright rejected the bills
What is so hard to understand?

They did? What was the final vote on the bills?

Rejected no need to vote

 

[Meister]

I'm struck by the line in Hamilton. Madison and Jefferson wanted the Capitol in the South. Hamilton wanted to create the national bank. It was two separate issues.

I'm going from memory here so it may not be 100% accurate:


BURR: And Madison responds with Virginian insight
MADISON: Maybe we can solve one problem with another and win a victory for the Southerners, in other words
JEFFERSON: Oh ho
MADISON: A quid pro quo
JEFFERSON: I suppose
MADISON: Wouldn't you like to work a little closer to home
JEFFERSON: Actually, I would
MADISON: Well, I propose the Potomac
JEFFERSON: And you'll provide him his votes
MADISON: Well, we'll see how it goes

If the President is going to be involved and his approval of action is important to the Senate it would seem as though such a thing could be hammered out. Probably not the wall since it's so contentious but there are a plethora of other things I'm sure the House would consider. Remember the infrastructure bill?

Priorities | The White House

President Biden will deliver bold action and immediate relief for American families as the country grapples with converging crises. This will include actions to control the COVID-19 pandemic, provide economic relief, tackle climate change, and advance racial equity and civil rights, as well as...

www.whitehouse.gov

Why not put that into the mix. The House gets it's relief in whatever measure is decided, the infrastructure bill the President couldn't get off the ground gets done...

Unless, the Senate R's are just not that interested in giving this President what he wants.... That looks more and more the case really. Because in the end, it's a dollar amount we're talking about; when there are two amounts, the obvious thing to do is find the midpoint. Easy. But I'm not too sure the Senate R's are completely on board with Trump any longer. It sure seems that way.

WTF??????
We're in the middle of a pandemic, not a time to be playing games, Candy.
Don't let common sense bitch slap you in the face.

 

[Meathead]

Shouldn't both houses get together and hammer out a bill and then send it to the President?

One would think that is the way t would work, but with Pelosi that is all but impossible

Pelosi and the Democrats did their job. You and I (to be truthful) may not like it but all the House or Senate can do is pass legislation. They did that. Twice. The Senate is doing nothing. So your post is simply not factual.

The Senate did their job, they outright rejected the bills
What is so hard to understand?

They did? What was the final vote on the bills?

Look, there's a reason you don't take a fat chick out for dinner ... several actually.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Shouldn't both houses get together and hammer out a bill and then send it to the President?

The House was getting together with the President's team to hammer out a bill.
The Dems kept loading it with crap, so the President walked away.

Correct. Which is why I'm asking about the Congress. Where is the Senate?

The Senate won't waste their time discussing a non-serious bill.
They have a new justice to confirm.

 

[candycorn]

I'm struck by the line in Hamilton. Madison and Jefferson wanted the Capitol in the South. Hamilton wanted to create the national bank. It was two separate issues.

I'm going from memory here so it may not be 100% accurate:


BURR: And Madison responds with Virginian insight
MADISON: Maybe we can solve one problem with another and win a victory for the Southerners, in other words
JEFFERSON: Oh ho
MADISON: A quid pro quo
JEFFERSON: I suppose
MADISON: Wouldn't you like to work a little closer to home
JEFFERSON: Actually, I would
MADISON: Well, I propose the Potomac
JEFFERSON: And you'll provide him his votes
MADISON: Well, we'll see how it goes

If the President is going to be involved and his approval of action is important to the Senate it would seem as though such a thing could be hammered out. Probably not the wall since it's so contentious but there are a plethora of other things I'm sure the House would consider. Remember the infrastructure bill?

Priorities | The White House

President Biden will deliver bold action and immediate relief for American families as the country grapples with converging crises. This will include actions to control the COVID-19 pandemic, provide economic relief, tackle climate change, and advance racial equity and civil rights, as well as...

www.whitehouse.gov

Why not put that into the mix. The House gets it's relief in whatever measure is decided, the infrastructure bill the President couldn't get off the ground gets done...

Unless, the Senate R's are just not that interested in giving this President what he wants.... That looks more and more the case really. Because in the end, it's a dollar amount we're talking about; when there are two amounts, the obvious thing to do is find the midpoint. Easy. But I'm not too sure the Senate R's are completely on board with Trump any longer. It sure seems that way.

why not just send a clean single item bill???

sounds so easy even a caveman can do it,,,

Well, for one thing, that would require another vote. There is no guarantee that Speaker Pelosi could get the looney left to go along with it to make it happen.

What the Senate does have right now are two bills the Looney Left agreed on and passed. The Senate could take it up today, strip it down to the single item and pass it. The R's have the majority.

And then then the conference committees are formed and they hammer out the differences. Pelosi can appoint anyone she wants to the committees--we haven't had one in so long, I may be wrong about that--but it will be democratic party controlled and she can appoint whatever DEMS she wants at least. The looney left need not apply! If it passes the CC, then the looney left AOC faction will have to vote against aid. Something that they probably would have trouble doing.

What it comes down to is calling the House's bluff..."you passed a bill, here is our version"

IF, and this isn't a small thing, it does in the CC, that's great. But at least the Senate showed up. Right now...they're not showing up.

 

[candycorn]

Shouldn't both houses get together and hammer out a bill and then send it to the President?

One would think that is the way t would work, but with Pelosi that is all but impossible

Pelosi and the Democrats did their job. You and I (to be truthful) may not like it but all the House or Senate can do is pass legislation. They did that. Twice. The Senate is doing nothing. So your post is simply not factual.

The Senate did their job, they outright rejected the bills
What is so hard to understand?

They did? What was the final vote on the bills?

Look, there's a reason you don't take a fat chick out for dinner ... several actually.

So you can't reference these phantom votes either.

 

[candycorn]

Shouldn't both houses get together and hammer out a bill and then send it to the President?

The House was getting together with the President's team to hammer out a bill.
The Dems kept loading it with crap, so the President walked away.

Correct. Which is why I'm asking about the Congress. Where is the Senate?

The Senate won't waste their time discussing a non-serious bill.
They have a new justice to confirm.

They've had it since May....5 months before the justice vacancy was there.

 

[candycorn]

I'm struck by the line in Hamilton. Madison and Jefferson wanted the Capitol in the South. Hamilton wanted to create the national bank. It was two separate issues.

I'm going from memory here so it may not be 100% accurate:


BURR: And Madison responds with Virginian insight
MADISON: Maybe we can solve one problem with another and win a victory for the Southerners, in other words
JEFFERSON: Oh ho
MADISON: A quid pro quo
JEFFERSON: I suppose
MADISON: Wouldn't you like to work a little closer to home
JEFFERSON: Actually, I would
MADISON: Well, I propose the Potomac
JEFFERSON: And you'll provide him his votes
MADISON: Well, we'll see how it goes

If the President is going to be involved and his approval of action is important to the Senate it would seem as though such a thing could be hammered out. Probably not the wall since it's so contentious but there are a plethora of other things I'm sure the House would consider. Remember the infrastructure bill?

Priorities | The White House

President Biden will deliver bold action and immediate relief for American families as the country grapples with converging crises. This will include actions to control the COVID-19 pandemic, provide economic relief, tackle climate change, and advance racial equity and civil rights, as well as...

www.whitehouse.gov

Why not put that into the mix. The House gets it's relief in whatever measure is decided, the infrastructure bill the President couldn't get off the ground gets done...

Unless, the Senate R's are just not that interested in giving this President what he wants.... That looks more and more the case really. Because in the end, it's a dollar amount we're talking about; when there are two amounts, the obvious thing to do is find the midpoint. Easy. But I'm not too sure the Senate R's are completely on board with Trump any longer. It sure seems that way.

WTF??????
We're in the middle of a pandemic, not a time to be playing games, Candy.
Don't let common sense bitch slap you in the face.

Playing what games? Doing their job?

 

[Claudette]

I'm struck by the line in Hamilton. Madison and Jefferson wanted the Capitol in the South. Hamilton wanted to create the national bank. It was two separate issues.

I'm going from memory here so it may not be 100% accurate:


BURR: And Madison responds with Virginian insight
MADISON: Maybe we can solve one problem with another and win a victory for the Southerners, in other words
JEFFERSON: Oh ho
MADISON: A quid pro quo
JEFFERSON: I suppose
MADISON: Wouldn't you like to work a little closer to home
JEFFERSON: Actually, I would
MADISON: Well, I propose the Potomac
JEFFERSON: And you'll provide him his votes
MADISON: Well, we'll see how it goes

If the President is going to be involved and his approval of action is important to the Senate it would seem as though such a thing could be hammered out. Probably not the wall since it's so contentious but there are a plethora of other things I'm sure the House would consider. Remember the infrastructure bill?

Priorities | The White House

President Biden will deliver bold action and immediate relief for American families as the country grapples with converging crises. This will include actions to control the COVID-19 pandemic, provide economic relief, tackle climate change, and advance racial equity and civil rights, as well as...

www.whitehouse.gov

Why not put that into the mix. The House gets it's relief in whatever measure is decided, the infrastructure bill the President couldn't get off the ground gets done...

Unless, the Senate R's are just not that interested in giving this President what he wants.... That looks more and more the case really. Because in the end, it's a dollar amount we're talking about; when there are two amounts, the obvious thing to do is find the midpoint. Easy. But I'm not too sure the Senate R's are completely on board with Trump any longer. It sure seems that way.

why not just send a clean single item bill???

sounds so easy even a caveman can do it,,,

Well, for one thing, that would require another vote. There is no guarantee that Speaker Pelosi could get the looney left to go along with it to make it happen.

What the Senate does have right now are two bills the Looney Left agreed on and passed. The Senate could take it up today, strip it down to the single item and pass it. The R's have the majority.

And then then the conference committees are formed and they hammer out the differences. Pelosi can appoint anyone she wants to the committees--we haven't had one in so long, I may be wrong about that--but it will be democratic party controlled and she can appoint whatever DEMS she wants at least. The looney left need not apply! If it passes the CC, then the looney left AOC faction will have to vote against aid. Something that they probably would have trouble doing.

What it comes down to is calling the House's bluff..."you passed a bill, here is our version"

IF, and this isn't a small thing, it does in the CC, that's great. But at least the Senate showed up. Right now...they're not showing up.

The Senate can strip the bill but they would have to send it back to the House for approval. Wonder if the House would approve a stand alone Covid Relief bill or try to stuff some of the pork back in and Send it back.

 

[Meister]

I'm struck by the line in Hamilton. Madison and Jefferson wanted the Capitol in the South. Hamilton wanted to create the national bank. It was two separate issues.

I'm going from memory here so it may not be 100% accurate:


BURR: And Madison responds with Virginian insight
MADISON: Maybe we can solve one problem with another and win a victory for the Southerners, in other words
JEFFERSON: Oh ho
MADISON: A quid pro quo
JEFFERSON: I suppose
MADISON: Wouldn't you like to work a little closer to home
JEFFERSON: Actually, I would
MADISON: Well, I propose the Potomac
JEFFERSON: And you'll provide him his votes
MADISON: Well, we'll see how it goes

If the President is going to be involved and his approval of action is important to the Senate it would seem as though such a thing could be hammered out. Probably not the wall since it's so contentious but there are a plethora of other things I'm sure the House would consider. Remember the infrastructure bill?

Priorities | The White House

President Biden will deliver bold action and immediate relief for American families as the country grapples with converging crises. This will include actions to control the COVID-19 pandemic, provide economic relief, tackle climate change, and advance racial equity and civil rights, as well as...

www.whitehouse.gov

Why not put that into the mix. The House gets it's relief in whatever measure is decided, the infrastructure bill the President couldn't get off the ground gets done...

Unless, the Senate R's are just not that interested in giving this President what he wants.... That looks more and more the case really. Because in the end, it's a dollar amount we're talking about; when there are two amounts, the obvious thing to do is find the midpoint. Easy. But I'm not too sure the Senate R's are completely on board with Trump any longer. It sure seems that way.

why not just send a clean single item bill???

sounds so easy even a caveman can do it,,,

Well, for one thing, that would require another vote. There is no guarantee that Speaker Pelosi could get the looney left to go along with it to make it happen.

What the Senate does have right now are two bills the Looney Left agreed on and passed. The Senate could take it up today, strip it down to the single item and pass it. The R's have the majority.

And then then the conference committees are formed and they hammer out the differences. Pelosi can appoint anyone she wants to the committees--we haven't had one in so long, I may be wrong about that--but it will be democratic party controlled and she can appoint whatever DEMS she wants at least. The looney left need not apply! If it passes the CC, then the looney left AOC faction will have to vote against aid. Something that they probably would have trouble doing.

What it comes down to is calling the House's bluff..."you passed a bill, here is our version"

IF, and this isn't a small thing, it does in the CC, that's great. But at least the Senate showed up. Right now...they're not showing up.

What's your time frame for getting this done? Seems you're just as much of the problem as your (how did you put it?) "Looney Left."

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm struck by the line in Hamilton. Madison and Jefferson wanted the Capitol in the South. Hamilton wanted to create the national bank. It was two separate issues.

I'm going from memory here so it may not be 100% accurate:


BURR: And Madison responds with Virginian insight
MADISON: Maybe we can solve one problem with another and win a victory for the Southerners, in other words
JEFFERSON: Oh ho
MADISON: A quid pro quo
JEFFERSON: I suppose
MADISON: Wouldn't you like to work a little closer to home
JEFFERSON: Actually, I would
MADISON: Well, I propose the Potomac
JEFFERSON: And you'll provide him his votes
MADISON: Well, we'll see how it goes

If the President is going to be involved and his approval of action is important to the Senate it would seem as though such a thing could be hammered out. Probably not the wall since it's so contentious but there are a plethora of other things I'm sure the House would consider. Remember the infrastructure bill?

Priorities | The White House

President Biden will deliver bold action and immediate relief for American families as the country grapples with converging crises. This will include actions to control the COVID-19 pandemic, provide economic relief, tackle climate change, and advance racial equity and civil rights, as well as...

www.whitehouse.gov

Why not put that into the mix. The House gets it's relief in whatever measure is decided, the infrastructure bill the President couldn't get off the ground gets done...

Unless, the Senate R's are just not that interested in giving this President what he wants.... That looks more and more the case really. Because in the end, it's a dollar amount we're talking about; when there are two amounts, the obvious thing to do is find the midpoint. Easy. But I'm not too sure the Senate R's are completely on board with Trump any longer. It sure seems that way.

why not just send a clean single item bill???

sounds so easy even a caveman can do it,,,

Well, for one thing, that would require another vote. There is no guarantee that Speaker Pelosi could get the looney left to go along with it to make it happen.

What the Senate does have right now are two bills the Looney Left agreed on and passed. The Senate could take it up today, strip it down to the single item and pass it. The R's have the majority.

And then then the conference committees are formed and they hammer out the differences. Pelosi can appoint anyone she wants to the committees--we haven't had one in so long, I may be wrong about that--but it will be democratic party controlled and she can appoint whatever DEMS she wants at least. The looney left need not apply! If it passes the CC, then the looney left AOC faction will have to vote against aid. Something that they probably would have trouble doing.

What it comes down to is calling the House's bluff..."you passed a bill, here is our version"

IF, and this isn't a small thing, it does in the CC, that's great. But at least the Senate showed up. Right now...they're not showing up.

they showed up,,, you just dont like how they did it,,,

seems the problem is with you and those you support not the senate,,,,

 

[candycorn]

Shouldn't both houses get together and hammer out a bill and then send it to the President?

One would think that is the way t would work, but with Pelosi that is all but impossible

Pelosi and the Democrats did their job. You and I (to be truthful) may not like it but all the House or Senate can do is pass legislation. They did that. Twice. The Senate is doing nothing. So your post is simply not factual.

The Senate did their job, they outright rejected the bills
What is so hard to understand?

They did? What was the final vote on the bills?

Rejected no need to vote

So they didn't vote on it...

But somehow the body rejected it.

Just so we know...

How do you think a bill becomes law?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Shouldn't both houses get together and hammer out a bill and then send it to the President?

One would think that is the way t would work, but with Pelosi that is all but impossible

Pelosi and the Democrats did their job. You and I (to be truthful) may not like it but all the House or Senate can do is pass legislation. They did that. Twice. The Senate is doing nothing. So your post is simply not factual.

The Senate did their job, they outright rejected the bills
What is so hard to understand?

They did? What was the final vote on the bills?

They did? What was the final vote on the bills?

The bills received zero votes.

 

[Claudette]

I'm struck by the line in Hamilton. Madison and Jefferson wanted the Capitol in the South. Hamilton wanted to create the national bank. It was two separate issues.

I'm going from memory here so it may not be 100% accurate:


BURR: And Madison responds with Virginian insight
MADISON: Maybe we can solve one problem with another and win a victory for the Southerners, in other words
JEFFERSON: Oh ho
MADISON: A quid pro quo
JEFFERSON: I suppose
MADISON: Wouldn't you like to work a little closer to home
JEFFERSON: Actually, I would
MADISON: Well, I propose the Potomac
JEFFERSON: And you'll provide him his votes
MADISON: Well, we'll see how it goes

If the President is going to be involved and his approval of action is important to the Senate it would seem as though such a thing could be hammered out. Probably not the wall since it's so contentious but there are a plethora of other things I'm sure the House would consider. Remember the infrastructure bill?

Priorities | The White House

President Biden will deliver bold action and immediate relief for American families as the country grapples with converging crises. This will include actions to control the COVID-19 pandemic, provide economic relief, tackle climate change, and advance racial equity and civil rights, as well as...

www.whitehouse.gov

Why not put that into the mix. The House gets it's relief in whatever measure is decided, the infrastructure bill the President couldn't get off the ground gets done...

Unless, the Senate R's are just not that interested in giving this President what he wants.... That looks more and more the case really. Because in the end, it's a dollar amount we're talking about; when there are two amounts, the obvious thing to do is find the midpoint. Easy. But I'm not too sure the Senate R's are completely on board with Trump any longer. It sure seems that way.

WTF??????
We're in the middle of a pandemic, not a time to be playing games, Candy.
Don't let common sense bitch slap you in the face.

Playing what games? Doing their job?

The did their job. They sent it back with NO approval as in NO vote.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Meanwhile average americans(real ones who work until collapsing) are taking it on the chin. Send out some $$$

How many times does it have to be said?
Trump offered up $1200 bucks immediately and dems said no.