The Iron Law of power density and the myth of solar and wind energy .....

[The Sage of Main Street]

Which oil has urea?

urEPA

 

[Woodznutz]

Isn’t the stuff natural

Not when they get through with it.

 

[Woodznutz]

They Can Always Go Back to Being Cannibals. Problem Solved.

Hmmm, interesting thought.

 

[Woodznutz]

Which part of the oil becomes fertilizer?

The manufacturing process takes lots of energy, which comes from fossil fuels.

Soils rich in organic matter are able to break down ground rock fertilizers (called 'amendments') without being treated with sulfuric acid. Our soils are so poor in humus that these amendments must be treated with acid so they are available to the plants. Of course this takes rainfall for the process to occur. Too much rain and most is washed away or soaks into the subsoil and into the water table. This doesn't happen in humus-rich 'organic' soils.

 

[jc456]

The manufacturing process takes lots of energy, which comes from fossil fuels.

Failing bigly

 

[KissMy]

No one said it can't be done, dummy. What we are saying is solar is inefficient.

For the same acreage that they are covering with those solar panels you could have a fossil fuel plant providing 1000 megawatts of energy.

Which is bigger? 1000 megawatts, or 846,000 watts?

Where will you get the fossil fuel to operate those plants when the Permian Basin peaks in 2 years????

 

[jc456]

Where will you get the fossil fuel to operate those plants when the Permian Basin peaks in 2 years????

how big you think the globe is? holy fk, we will never run out of fossil fuels.

 

[Blues Man]

The point is that 'traditional' agriculture puts all sorts of unnatural stuff into the soil, much with a direct link to fossil fuels.

Nitrogen fertilizer isn;t unnatural in fact even organic fertilizer is mostly nitrogen, potassium and phosphorous

 

[Blues Man]

So every plant is a byproduct of petroleum

No all petroleum is a byproduct of plant decay

 

[jc456]

No all petroleum is a byproduct of plant decay

Soup is natural byproduct of mixing food together

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The manufacturing process takes lots of energy, which comes from fossil fuels.

Soils rich in organic matter are able to break down ground rock fertilizers (called 'amendments') without being treated with sulfuric acid. Our soils are so poor in humus that these amendments must be treated with acid so they are available to the plants. Of course this takes rainfall for the process to occur. Too much rain and most is washed away or soaks into the subsoil and into the water table. This doesn't happen in humus-rich 'organic' soils.

The energy, not the oil. Tell her, I already knew.

 

[westwall]

Where will you get the fossil fuel to operate those plants when the Permian Basin peaks in 2 years????

From other places. You clods have been bleating about peak oil for over 100 years.

Still no sign of it running out.

 

[AZrailwhale]

What sacrifices? Just upgrade building insulation, heating and water heating systems, convert from oil to natural gas, make more hybrid vehicles, plant more trees, more organic agriculture, take care of your health, and conserve where possible. These are horizontal and upward lifestyle changes, not downward.

Organic agriculture is horribly inefficient. Crop yields are far below normal agriculture.

 

[Woodznutz]

Organic agriculture is horribly inefficient. Crop yields are far below normal agriculture.

As stated earlier, we eat waaaay too much and waste too much for that to be a concern.

 

[jc456]

As stated earlier, we eat waaaay too much and waste too much for that to be a concern.

prove it! Obesity isn't from eating too much!!! Many factors fall into the reasons. You're a punk.

Obesity and Your Health | Truth About Weight®

Learn what obesity is, and how losing weight can improve weight-related health conditions. Calculate your BMI and start your weight management here.

www.truthaboutweight.com

Note a fking link!!!! educate your dummass.

 

[surada]

Fertilizer - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Nitrogen fixation is a chemical process by which molecular nitrogen (N
2), which has a strong triple covalent bond, is converted into ammonia (NH
3) or related nitrogenous compounds, typically in soil or aquatic systems[1] but also in industry.

Don’t see petroleum anywhere In this

Urea, phosphorus and sulfur are also separated in the refinery.

 

[jc456]

Urea, phosphorus and sulfur are also separated in the refinery.

fine, post a link!

 

[surada]

fine, post a link!

Example - sulfur from refineries - Consequential LCA

An example on sulfur as a by-product that is not fully utilised.

consequential-lca.org

 

[surada]

Petroleum and Real Life | CAPP

Oil and natural gas are important parts of daily life.

context.capp.ca

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Urea, phosphorus and sulfur are also separated in the refinery.

How much urea is produced in oil refineries? Link?