The Iron Law of power density and the myth of solar and wind energy .....

[Woodznutz]

A by product of petroleum is NOT petroleum.


Natural gas is burned in the process to isolate nitrogen for nitrogen based fertilizer there is no methane in the fertilizer end product

Phosphorous and potassium based fertilizers don't use any petroleum products in their manufacturing process.

The point is that 'traditional' agriculture puts all sorts of unnatural stuff into the soil, much with a direct link to fossil fuels.

 

[jc456]

A by product of petroleum is NOT petroleum.


Natural gas is burned in the process to isolate nitrogen for nitrogen based fertilizer there is no methane in the fertilizer end product

Phosphorous and potassium based fertilizers don't use any petroleum products in their manufacturing process.

So every plant is a byproduct of petroleum

 

[Woodznutz]

So every plant is a byproduct of petroleum

Good point.

 

[jc456]

The point is that 'traditional' agriculture puts all sorts of unnatural stuff into the soil, much with a direct link to fossil fuels.

Isn’t the stuff natural

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Petroleum/chemical-based agriculture is not only silly, it's insane.

Feeding hungry people.....it's crazy!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Commercial fertilizers are a by product of cracking and refining petroleum.

Which part of the oil becomes fertilizer?

 

[surada]

Which part of the oil becomes fertilizer?

The stuff left over when oil is distilled. That includes huge piles of sulphur.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I'm thinking urea, phosphorus and sulfur... See Agrifert.. they are in KSA and sell to SE Asia.

Which oil has urea?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The stuff left over when oil is distilled. That includes huge piles of sulphur.

Be more specific.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The poor on SNAP can easily afford some organic foods. They just have to buy less junk foods.

SNAP, Kraken, and Corn Pop: Biden Krispies

 

[jc456]

I'm thinking urea, phosphorus and sulfur... See Agrifert.. they are in KSA and sell to SE Asia.

Animal piss?

 

[surada]

Be more specific.

I'm not a petroleum engineer.. I just listen. As I understand it different crude oils have different properties depending where they're from, whether they're light sweet or heavy sour and what other chemicals are present.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Just stating the obvious.

Africa: 45 Million People 'Teetering On the Edge of Famine' Globally - WFP

"The latest data shows there are now more than 45 million people marching towards the brink of starvation," said WFP Executive Director David Beasley.

allafrica.com

They Can Always Go Back to Being Cannibals. Problem Solved.

 

[jc456]

The point is that 'traditional' agriculture puts all sorts of unnatural stuff into the soil, much with a direct link to fossil fuels.

Where does petroleum come from?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

How many terawatts does the US use annually?

And let's not forget that we are not a desert country with 360 days of sun annually

Disparity Austerity

The Greenies will have us switch to sundials. Clocks use too much electricity.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I'm not a petroleum engineer.. I just listen. As I understand it different crude oils have different properties depending where they're from, whether they're light sweet or heavy sour and what other chemicals are present.

I'm not a petroleum engineer..

Obviously.

As I understand it different crude oils have different properties

Yup. Mostly hydrocarbons. Nothing you'd use as fertilizer.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Where does petroleum come from?

A Peek at the Peak-Oil Hoax

Titan, a moon of Saturn, has huge deposits of natural gas (methane and ethane). So a biomass is not the only source of such hydrocarbons, even here on Earth. Besides, there's plenty of petroleum left to be discovered on Earth, which the hoarding oil oligopoly doesn't want us to know about.

More proof that Liberals are agents of the Right Wing they were born in. If a lake of diamonds was discovered, the diamond merchants would bribe a scientist to claim that the glitter from millions of cheap diamonds would cause global warming.

 

[jc456]

I'm not a petroleum engineer.. I just listen. As I understand it different crude oils have different properties depending where they're from, whether they're light sweet or heavy sour and what other chemicals are present.

Fertilizer - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Nitrogen fixation is a chemical process by which molecular nitrogen (N
2), which has a strong triple covalent bond, is converted into ammonia (NH
3) or related nitrogenous compounds, typically in soil or aquatic systems[1] but also in industry.

Don’t see petroleum anywhere In this

 

[jc456]

A Peek at the Peak-Oil Hoax

Titan, a moon of Saturn, has huge deposits of natural gas (methane and ethane). So a biomass is not the only source of such hydrocarbons, even here on Earth. Besides, there's plenty of petroleum left to be discovered on Earth, which the hoarding oil oligopoly doesn't want us to know about.

More proof that Liberals are agents of the Right Wing they were born in. If a lake of diamonds was discovered, the diamond merchants would bribe a scientist to claim that the glitter from millions of cheap diamonds would cause global warming.

I’ve said it many times, oil will never get depleted! Ever

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

A by product of petroleum is NOT petroleum.


Natural gas is burned in the process to isolate nitrogen for nitrogen based fertilizer there is no methane in the fertilizer end product

Phosphorous and potassium based fertilizers don't use any petroleum products in their manufacturing process.

Corporate Patents Are the Well-Hidden Crime of the Century

Far more important is the fact that the two geniuses who invented petrochemical fertilizer didn't become billionaires. The homo erectus parasites who own the oil companies did. Science is for suckers.