The Irony of Whites Talking About Fatherless Black Families...

[irosie91]

As much as black racists like I'm2 stupid would like you to believe...it will never be white people, or the government's fault that black people are not raising their children properly, and instead are setting them up for failure.

At some point in your life no matter if you are black, white, brown, yellow, red...you have to stop blaming everyone and everything else for the problems you are facing (racism or no racism), and take personal responsibility for the changes you need to make to better yourself and your family.

They were on track after the civil right's were achieved, and this after a grand struggle was orchastrated by some great icon's like King, Douglas, and the like, but over time the culture kept changing, looking, and carving out new identities.

This they did while adjusting, and trying to fit in, and trying to be relevant, interesting, culturally in tune etc, but then thug culture somehow began to get stronger and stronger amongst the ranks, and it got stronger in and amongst the many of the youth who were still looking for a landing pad, a purpose, acceptance, a home, but sadly Hollyweird played them right into it's claws. The glorification of gang or thug culture by hollyweird, began setting the black's or any race that dealt in it in my opinion, back years and years as if it was being done on purpose.

Black's should be adamant on finding out who started thug/gang culture, and they should be rebuking it along with white families who are trying to keep their young from falling prey to it as well.

HOLLYWOOD invented black culture?

LOL.... Noooooooooo.... Hollywood created the glorification of thug/gang culture, and many of the youth needing a place to land, landed right in the palm of Hollywood's hand where they were to be exploited and used due their vulnerabilities. It worked like a fine watch is expected to keep perfect time for them. What I wonder though, is who are these people in Hollyweird that did these things ? Were they leftist, white, what ???

white gangs decorating hollywood films created
black crimminality? ------and hollywood did that
as a white supremacist agenda ?

 

[Blues Man]

I have not stated my conclusions and I don't plan to I am giving you the information

There are only two conclusions that would make this report important to you

either black people are being treated fairly or they arent

you dont have to tell us what you think but its pretty obvious

don't assume you know my mind. You don't

I am giving you what the Commission found now you say it's all wrong so why don't you prove your claims.

 

[Blues Man]

It's a fact that a black person is more likely to get arrested and serve time for a crime than whites who commit the same crime.

you are just parroting the idea promoted by obama and his street thugs at Black Lies Matter which claim that cops are racists who just pick on black people

but the rest of America knows thats nonsense

blacks get arrested more because they commit more crimes

its as simple as that

no I am actually stating facts from actual research.

FactCheck: do black criminals get harsher sentences for the same crimes?

Analysis that shows ethnic minority criminals are 240% more likely to be jailed for drug offences cannot exclude the possibility that the BAME offenders were simply convicted of more serious crimes.

www.channel4.com

FactCheck: do black criminals get harsher sentences for the same crimes?

Analysis that shows ethnic minority criminals are 240% more likely to be jailed for drug offences cannot exclude the possibility that the BAME offenders were simply convicted of more serious crimes.

www.channel4.com

Black men get longer prison sentences than white men for the same crime: Study

Black men are 19.1 percent more likely to serve longer sentences.

abcnews.go.com

Sentencing Commission Finds Black Men Receive Longer Sentences Than White Men For Same Crime

eji.org

The original study mentioned in these articles accounts for 1 year 2016, that is it and also from the ABC study link I got this,

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[Blues Man]

Therr are no more

Whites control the lawmaking and policymaking bodies in this country.

There are no anti black laws anywhere in America

no there are just laws that are applied more to blacks than to whites.

It's a fact that a black person is more likely to get arrested and serve time for a crime than whites who commit the same crime.

Very true. It's because of the behavior of black defendants. They are far more likely to act out in the courtroom. A white will stand respectfully, apologize and take responsibility. Blacks blame racism. A white cooperates with the attorney. A black treats the attorney as the enemy. They are amused at the lengths attorneys try to go with no client representation at all.

An innocent black can railroad themselves into prison.

not true.

It's the court system and the stats prove it.

The question was not do blacks commit more crimes. The specific question was why do blacks get prison when a white in the same circumstance will walk or get probation? That was the question I answered. It is unfortunately quite true. I have seen it hundreds if not thousands of times.

An innocent black man putting on a street cred show for the jury will go to prison while a quite guilty white man sitting quietly will get enough sympathy to be acquitted. Not because the jury believes in black guilt. Because the jury has been treated so such an exhibition that they just want this black person off the streets I am sorry that this is the case. It is.

That'snot what the Sentencing Commission found.

There was no mention of court roon behavior and there is no way you can say that it was unless you can show proof of that behavior

 

[Blues Man]

Some of thise things

The descendants of the same people who would break up black families by selling them are today the loudest talking people trying to diss the black community about single parent families.

When people start talking about race, there are just some simple realities that cannot be denied. If you are white and don't like how you are portrayed, start thinking about how unpleasant it really is for us who are not white to be portrayed as weak inferior people who got conquered by a supposedly superior race and culture. It is not a pleasant subject. For this to end we all must face the unpleasantness.

The doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem comes from European civil law. It means; “That which is brought forth follows the belly.” This principle determined the legal status of children born by slave women in the America as well as other English or European colonies In colonial law, the partus doctrine justified enslavement, the indigenous people of the Americas and of the Africans imported to various European colonies personal property of those who imported them.

During the time American was a colony, this doctrine established de facto and de jure slavery for all children born to female slaves. Partus sequitur ventrem exempted the father from his obligations to children he fathered by slaves thereby creating the ability for slaveowners to have their way with enslaved women. Under this doctrine the biological father had no paternal responsibility to any child born to a slave woman. Because of this the slaver was provided the right to profit from exploiting the labor of children born to slaves. It gave the slaver the ability to sell children by taking them away from their biological parents. Partus sequitur ventrem was the doctrine that created the first family separation policy in what is now America.

Despite the claims of Africans selling each other, the doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem does not appear to be a part of the system of African slavery.

Partus Sequitur Ventrem — The Rule That Perpetrated Slavery And Legalized Rape

This was the legal doctrine that made any child of an American female slave a slave as well. It meant any white fathers had no financial responsibility for their progeny. They were free to rape their slaves at will as there were no laws against that either. With no concern for any children that might come from the forced union. In fact, there was a market for mulatto and octaroon children who would be purchased to work as domestics. Some owners (Thomas Jefferson) used their half-white slaves as their concubines, finding them more attractive the closer they were to white. Sally Hemings was Jefferson’s wife’s half-sister, the product of her father raping a slave. Then again the master might sell their offspring to keep the peace with their wives who might be annoyed at little slave children running around who favor their husbands.

Not talked about in proper society were the children of free white women and black slaves. White women who weren’t sure what color the child might be could get a legal abortion those days. “Cottonwood” was a remedy known to slaves who sometimes refused to have children after being raped or as often as the masters would like. Some women would be forced to have over a dozen children if they survived as death during childbirth was relatively common. The rare slave would be offered their freedom if they produced enough children. Sometimes the dark child of a white woman was abandoned or given away. Usually just sold off although technically they were legally free.

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Partus sequitur ventrem legal definition of Partus sequitur ventrem (thefreedictionary.com)

Breaking News!!!!!!


Slavery ended in America ended 157 years ago. So hey.....whew.....you can relax now.....okay.

And yet it took until the late 1960's for the Civil rights act to be passed.

What do you think it was like for Blacks between the end of slavery and the time the Civil Rights Act became law?

And even after the Civil Rights act there was not this instant end to racism and discrimination

You people need to study a little sociology.

Slavery was abolished in the 1860's

The right to vote was established in the 1860's

Citizenship for blacks was established in the 1860's

It was the Democrats who tried hard for the next 100 years to control the blacks into a second class existence.

The laws were long in place but Democrats century long disrespect for Constitutional law was the main reason for blacks rights being denied.

You need to do more reading of history.

I know my history quite well

you don't seen to understand how that history still affects society today.

and really does it matter if slavery ended in 1860 if it was still legal to marginalize Blacks? Still legal to lynch Blacks? Still legal to deny Blacks housing or education?

Some of those things were legal in a handful of states. They were illegal in most states.

link

 

[pknopp]

The descendants of the same people who would break up black families by selling them are today the loudest talking people trying to diss the black community about single parent families.

When people start talking about race, there are just some simple realities that cannot be denied. If you are white and don't like how you are portrayed, start thinking about how unpleasant it really is for us who are not white to be portrayed as weak inferior people who got conquered by a supposedly superior race and culture. It is not a pleasant subject. For this to end we all must face the unpleasantness.

The doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem comes from European civil law. It means; “That which is brought forth follows the belly.” This principle determined the legal status of children born by slave women in the America as well as other English or European colonies In colonial law, the partus doctrine justified enslavement, the indigenous people of the Americas and of the Africans imported to various European colonies personal property of those who imported them.

During the time American was a colony, this doctrine established de facto and de jure slavery for all children born to female slaves. Partus sequitur ventrem exempted the father from his obligations to children he fathered by slaves thereby creating the ability for slaveowners to have their way with enslaved women. Under this doctrine the biological father had no paternal responsibility to any child born to a slave woman. Because of this the slaver was provided the right to profit from exploiting the labor of children born to slaves. It gave the slaver the ability to sell children by taking them away from their biological parents. Partus sequitur ventrem was the doctrine that created the first family separation policy in what is now America.

Despite the claims of Africans selling each other, the doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem does not appear to be a part of the system of African slavery.

Partus Sequitur Ventrem — The Rule That Perpetrated Slavery And Legalized Rape

This was the legal doctrine that made any child of an American female slave a slave as well. It meant any white fathers had no financial responsibility for their progeny. They were free to rape their slaves at will as there were no laws against that either. With no concern for any children that might come from the forced union. In fact, there was a market for mulatto and octaroon children who would be purchased to work as domestics. Some owners (Thomas Jefferson) used their half-white slaves as their concubines, finding them more attractive the closer they were to white. Sally Hemings was Jefferson’s wife’s half-sister, the product of her father raping a slave. Then again the master might sell their offspring to keep the peace with their wives who might be annoyed at little slave children running around who favor their husbands.

Not talked about in proper society were the children of free white women and black slaves. White women who weren’t sure what color the child might be could get a legal abortion those days. “Cottonwood” was a remedy known to slaves who sometimes refused to have children after being raped or as often as the masters would like. Some women would be forced to have over a dozen children if they survived as death during childbirth was relatively common. The rare slave would be offered their freedom if they produced enough children. Sometimes the dark child of a white woman was abandoned or given away. Usually just sold off although technically they were legally free.

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Partus Sequitur Ventrem — The Rule That Perpetrated Slavery And Legalized Rape | by William Spivey | Dialogue & Discourse | Medium

Partus sequitur ventrem legal definition of Partus sequitur ventrem (thefreedictionary.com)

Black families without fathers over the past sixty years wasn't caused by slavery, IM2...it's something that took place because of a short sighted welfare system that made it financially beneficial to NOT have a father in the house incentivized that to take place!

I am not entirely sure that it is the faulty welfare
system that did it to blacks ENTIRELY. It seems
to have had such an effect on the entire population.
The root of black peoples' approach to "family" and
children, IMHO----in at least a significant degree
lies in Africa

Wrong. Another old ignorant white person trying to make claims about blacks.

An

The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism.

Nonsense

blacks create their own problems

Black welfare moms for instance lead to fatherless hoodlums who create fatherless children of their own when they arent in jail

The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism. I say that having lived nearhly 60 years as a black man. You have not lived one second black, you are a racist and yet you think you can argue. So when you turn black and live a few ywars come talk to me.

And as a White who has lived over sixty years I can say you are full of crap. For every racist white I've met, I've met ten racist blacks or Latinos. All you want to do is to blame your failures on other people.

I knew this elderly black man. He admitted he was racist. I told him I found that counter productive and doesn't help anything.

He then told me the story about how it was his daughter that integrated the local schools. She was in elementary school and he would go everyday to eat lunch with her because no one else would. He would hear the names the other kids would call her (you can imagine). He said that was something he would never get over. I told him I understood.

He was made to hate white people because of of what white people had done to him. Calling hikm a racist when he was angry by the way whites treated him and his daughter is disingenuous. And it is this disingenuous stuff is what allows whites today to try claimjing blackgs are just as racist. I know that's not what your point is pknopp and so don't be offended. I am targeting my words for AZrailwhale whose comments are prime example of the disingenuousness I am talkking about. There is a difference in being taught that people are dumb, lazy, violent and criminal then consistently being mistreated and having to face the attitudes of whites who believe those teachings. AZrailwhale doesn't seem to see the difference because he's a racist and thinks he gets to be one and that blacks or Latinos are just going to take it.

AZrailwhale,

My failings are such that I helped build 3 organizations and retired from such work in my 50's. Now I work on personal projects on my time. Hopefully you have failed as badly as I have. So you can stop repeating that dumb ass line and face the truth. The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism.

He said he was racist. I simply relayed his story.

I know that but it is also important to point out that what he called racist was his anger about how he was treated by whites. This shows no assumption of assuming an inherent trait. To try equating that to the racism you see in here or even trying to compare it is disingenuous. If whites here had faced every day the things he did, they would be right to dislike blacks, but most of these people have no contact with blacks. If blacks had made laws and policies to deprive them, they would have reason to not like blacks but that has not happened .Therefore just saying that a black man said he was racist without understanding what he went through, which you did, to your credit, is ignoring some important things to make a false equivalence.

No, it is not what you see here. What you see here is people who never evolved.

 

[beagle9]

GoidTE="Markle, post: 26258525, member: 57289"]

My failings are such that I helped build 3 organizations and retired from such work in my 50's. Now I work on personal projects on my time. Hopefully you have failed as badly as I have. So you can stop repeating that dumb ass line and face the truth. The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism.

If you can do it why not millions of other black people?

There is a very simple and complete answer.

Since the fifties, these fine folks,

Failed former President Barack Hussein Obama, former First Lady Michelle Obama, Eric Holder, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Rev. Al Sharpton, Minister Louis Farrakhan, Father Pflager, Rev. Jesse Jackson, Sr., Rev. Jesse Jackson, Jr., King Samir Shabazz, Van Jones, Charlie Rangel, Barbara Boxer, Maxine Waters, Al Green, Sheila Jackson Lee, Andre Carson, Shirley Sherrod, Keith Ellison, and the list goes on!

The reason blacks are convinced that they are inferior and need others to help them is that those race-baiters, one and all, have been preaching that to them their entire lives. How else are the vast majority of blacks to feel when "leaders" of their own race have told them for decades that they are inferior?
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My failings are such that I helped build 3 organizations and retired from such work in my 50's. Now I work on personal projects on my time. Hopefully you have failed as badly as I have. So you can stop repeating that dumb ass line and face the truth. The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism.

If you can do it why not millions of other black people?

There is a very simple and complete answer.

Since the fifties, these fine folks,

Failed former President Barack Hussein Obama, former First Lady Michelle Obama, Eric Holder, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Rev. Al Sharpton, Minister Louis Farrakhan, Father Pflager, Rev. Jesse Jackson, Sr., Rev. Jesse Jackson, Jr., King Samir Shabazz, Van Jones, Charlie Rangel, Barbara Boxer, Maxine Waters, Al Green, Sheila Jackson Lee, Andre Carson, Shirley Sherrod, Keith Ellison, and the list goes on!

The reason blacks are convinced that they are inferior and need others to help them is that those race-baiters, one and all, have been preaching that to them their entire lives. How else are the vast majority of blacks to feel when "leaders" of their own race have told them for decades that they are inferior?

Good analogy, and true in many respects, but they had to have something to use right ? They used white racism of course, and they used it as a weapon to extort from these poor folks. That's why they are called race hustlers. Million's of dollars have been made by the race hustlers, and that's why race relations were actually being held back or prolonged way longer than was needed, because it was found that money could be made as well as power secured by these means.

Hillary and Biden picked up on the game, and their blatant outright usage of it should be an outrage to the black community, and it is an outrage to those who have their ears wide open to it.

It's so bad, that if any prominent black speaks out about it, the now collective brainwashed herd proceeds to calling them race traitor's, uncle tom's, Coons, and so on and so forth. This has been a huge injustice for them, and it stalls race relations, and it keeps the sheeple in check.

It's all just extortion and power grabs for the ability to keep it all going.

 

[beagle9]

Or, you could always try being a man by accepting responsibility for your actions instead of always blaming others.

I have two children, and accepted my responsibilities for raising them to the fullest. What an absolute coward and worthless shit I would have been if I had abandoned my responsibilities by whining that the Irish didn't always have it so good in the past.

Yep, as far back as the sand box goes, unfortunately kids threw sand in each other's faces, and some left crying to their mama's, and other's made the one throwing the sand leave crying to his Mama.

 

[beagle9]

As much as black racists like I'm2 stupid would like you to believe...it will never be white people, or the government's fault that black people are not raising their children properly, and instead are setting them up for failure.

At some point in your life no matter if you are black, white, brown, yellow, red...you have to stop blaming everyone and everything else for the problems you are facing (racism or no racism), and take personal responsibility for the changes you need to make to better yourself and your family.

They were on track after the civil right's were achieved, and this after a grand struggle was orchastrated by some great icon's like King, Douglas, and the like, but over time the culture kept changing, looking, and carving out new identities.

This they did while adjusting, and trying to fit in, and trying to be relevant, interesting, culturally in tune etc, but then thug culture somehow began to get stronger and stronger amongst the ranks, and it got stronger in and amongst the many of the youth who were still looking for a landing pad, a purpose, acceptance, a home, but sadly Hollyweird played them right into it's claws. The glorification of gang or thug culture by hollyweird, began setting the black's or any race that dealt in it in my opinion, back years and years as if it was being done on purpose.

Black's should be adamant on finding out who started thug/gang culture, and they should be rebuking it along with white families who are trying to keep their young from falling prey to it as well.

HOLLYWOOD invented black culture?

LOL.... Noooooooooo.... Hollywood created the glorification of thug/gang culture, and many of the youth needing a place to land, landed right in the palm of Hollywood's hand where they were to be exploited and used due their vulnerabilities. It worked like a fine watch is expected to keep perfect time for them. What I wonder though, is who are these people in Hollyweird that did these things ? Were they leftist, white, what ???

white gangs decorating hollywood films created
black crimminality? ------and hollywood did that
as a white supremacist agenda ?

Your interpretation skills have me worried.. lol.

I think you over complicate what is being said or you just misinterpret what is being said or you attempt to add to what is being said in order to try and paint a different picture of what is being said.

No hollyweird did what they did strictly for money, not for a white supremacists agenda.

Hollyweird is just race hustlers or hustlers of anything that moves, otherwise if it's usable to make money with then look for it..... The glorification of thug/gang culture is an attempt to create a money market out of it, and yes hollyweird could care less about what it's powerful platform coupled with it's financing and artistic creativity used, would do to society on whole once lending the powerful platform to a character trait that needed more so to be corrected instead of to be glorified by any means.

 

[Mac-7]

In the USA the condition of all citizens is "treated fairly and unfairly", more or less

What liberals want are scripted results where an equal number of black people are promoted whether they deserve it or not

 

[Mac-7]

Turn black and try living battling white racism, then come ask.

I know the internet is nirvina for liars

but you did claim to have overcome the best efforts of white people to hold you back

are you THAT superior to all the other blacks?

 

[Mac-7]

Your answer is wrong. Furthermore given the huge amount of help whites have received from the government, it's evidence of psychosis.

The government has spent an enormous amount of money trying to bring blacks up to the standards of whites and asians.

apparently that not money well spent

 

[Mac-7]

don't assume you know my mind. You don't

If you can think of a third conclusion I’d lile to hear it

 

[Blues Man]

don't assume you know my mind. You don't

If you can think of a third conclusion I’d lile to hear it

What you think or don't think is irrelevant.

You have said that the report is wrong so why don't you prove that?

 

[Mac-7]

Therr are no more

Whites control the lawmaking and policymaking bodies in this country.

There are no anti black laws anywhere in America

no there are just laws that are applied more to blacks than to whites.

It's a fact that a black person is more likely to get arrested and serve time for a crime than whites who commit the same crime.

Very true. It's because of the behavior of black defendants. They are far more likely to act out in the courtroom. A white will stand respectfully, apologize and take responsibility. Blacks blame racism. A white cooperates with the attorney. A black treats the attorney as the enemy. They are amused at the lengths attorneys try to go with no client representation at all.

An innocent black can railroad themselves into prison.

not true.

It's the court system and the stats prove it.

The question was not do blacks commit more crimes. The specific question was why do blacks get prison when a white in the same circumstance will walk or get probation? That was the question I answered. It is unfortunately quite true. I have seen it hundreds if not thousands of times.

An innocent black man putting on a street cred show for the jury will go to prison while a quite guilty white man sitting quietly will get enough sympathy to be acquitted. Not because the jury believes in black guilt. Because the jury has been treated so such an exhibition that they just want this black person off the streets I am sorry that this is the case. It is.

That'snot what the Sentencing Commission found.

There was no mention of court roon behavior and there is no way you can say that it was unless you can show proof of that behavior

Is the NBA racist against white people who are underrepresented as players?

 

[irosie91]

As much as black racists like I'm2 stupid would like you to believe...it will never be white people, or the government's fault that black people are not raising their children properly, and instead are setting them up for failure.

At some point in your life no matter if you are black, white, brown, yellow, red...you have to stop blaming everyone and everything else for the problems you are facing (racism or no racism), and take personal responsibility for the changes you need to make to better yourself and your family.

They were on track after the civil right's were achieved, and this after a grand struggle was orchastrated by some great icon's like King, Douglas, and the like, but over time the culture kept changing, looking, and carving out new identities.

This they did while adjusting, and trying to fit in, and trying to be relevant, interesting, culturally in tune etc, but then thug culture somehow began to get stronger and stronger amongst the ranks, and it got stronger in and amongst the many of the youth who were still looking for a landing pad, a purpose, acceptance, a home, but sadly Hollyweird played them right into it's claws. The glorification of gang or thug culture by hollyweird, began setting the black's or any race that dealt in it in my opinion, back years and years as if it was being done on purpose.

Black's should be adamant on finding out who started thug/gang culture, and they should be rebuking it along with white families who are trying to keep their young from falling prey to it as well.

HOLLYWOOD invented black culture?

LOL.... Noooooooooo.... Hollywood created the glorification of thug/gang culture, and many of the youth needing a place to land, landed right in the palm of Hollywood's hand where they were to be exploited and used due their vulnerabilities. It worked like a fine watch is expected to keep perfect time for them. What I wonder though, is who are these people in Hollyweird that did these things ? Were they leftist, white, what ???

white gangs decorating hollywood films created
black crimminality? ------and hollywood did that
as a white supremacist agenda ?

Your interpretation skills have me worried.. lol.

I think you over complicate what is being said or you just misinterpret what is being said or you attempt to add to what is being said in order to try and paint a different picture of what is being said.

No hollyweird did what they did strictly for money, not for a white supremacists agenda.

Hollyweird is just race hustlers or hustlers of anything that moves, otherwise if it's usable to make money with then look for it..... The glorification of thug/gang culture is an attempt to create a money market out of it, and yes hollyweird could care less about what it's powerful platform coupled with it's financing and artistic creativity used, would do to society on whole once lending the powerful platform to a character trait that needed more so to be corrected instead of to be glorified by any means.

roflmao-------sheeeesh....and you claim that I (little rosie) OVER COMPLICATE THINGS. Films is art.
Even artists have to make a living

 

[Blues Man]

Therr are no more

Whites control the lawmaking and policymaking bodies in this country.

There are no anti black laws anywhere in America

no there are just laws that are applied more to blacks than to whites.

It's a fact that a black person is more likely to get arrested and serve time for a crime than whites who commit the same crime.

Very true. It's because of the behavior of black defendants. They are far more likely to act out in the courtroom. A white will stand respectfully, apologize and take responsibility. Blacks blame racism. A white cooperates with the attorney. A black treats the attorney as the enemy. They are amused at the lengths attorneys try to go with no client representation at all.

An innocent black can railroad themselves into prison.

not true.

It's the court system and the stats prove it.

The question was not do blacks commit more crimes. The specific question was why do blacks get prison when a white in the same circumstance will walk or get probation? That was the question I answered. It is unfortunately quite true. I have seen it hundreds if not thousands of times.

An innocent black man putting on a street cred show for the jury will go to prison while a quite guilty white man sitting quietly will get enough sympathy to be acquitted. Not because the jury believes in black guilt. Because the jury has been treated so such an exhibition that they just want this black person off the streets I am sorry that this is the case. It is.

That'snot what the Sentencing Commission found.

There was no mention of court roon behavior and there is no way you can say that it was unless you can show proof of that behavior

Is the NBA racist against white people who are underrepresented as players?

Once again I never said anything was racist. I gave you facts based on years of sentencing data you said the data was wrong

prove it.

Either Blacks get longer sentences for the same crimes as whites or they don't which is it?

 

[Mac-7]

Once again I never said anything was racist. I gave you facts based on years of sentencing data you said the data was wrong

Your “facts” are useless if you dont know what to do with them

and you seem to have no idea

 

[Blues Man]

Once again I never said anything was racist. I gave you facts based on years of sentencing data you said the data was wrong

Your “facts” are useless if you dont know what to do with them

and you seem to have no idea

so you are still saying the data from years worth of convictions and sentencing is wrong but you have yet to prove it is wrong

 

[Mac-7]

so you are still saying the data from years worth of convictions and sentencing is wrong but you have yet to prove it is wrong

I think the data is just numbers

what is your reaction to the data?

you keep tapdancing around that