The Irony of Whites Talking About Fatherless Black Families...

[Meathead]

Either Blacks get longer sentences for the same crimes as whites or they don't which is it?

Given that blacks are more likely to be repeat offenders, does that surprise you, if true.

 

[MizMolly]

The descendants of the same people who would break up black families by selling them are today the loudest talking people trying to diss the black community about single parent families.

When people start talking about race, there are just some simple realities that cannot be denied. If you are white and don't like how you are portrayed, start thinking about how unpleasant it really is for us who are not white to be portrayed as weak inferior people who got conquered by a supposedly superior race and culture. It is not a pleasant subject. For this to end we all must face the unpleasantness.

The doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem comes from European civil law. It means; “That which is brought forth follows the belly.” This principle determined the legal status of children born by slave women in the America as well as other English or European colonies In colonial law, the partus doctrine justified enslavement, the indigenous people of the Americas and of the Africans imported to various European colonies personal property of those who imported them.

During the time American was a colony, this doctrine established de facto and de jure slavery for all children born to female slaves. Partus sequitur ventrem exempted the father from his obligations to children he fathered by slaves thereby creating the ability for slaveowners to have their way with enslaved women. Under this doctrine the biological father had no paternal responsibility to any child born to a slave woman. Because of this the slaver was provided the right to profit from exploiting the labor of children born to slaves. It gave the slaver the ability to sell children by taking them away from their biological parents. Partus sequitur ventrem was the doctrine that created the first family separation policy in what is now America.

Despite the claims of Africans selling each other, the doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem does not appear to be a part of the system of African slavery.

Partus Sequitur Ventrem — The Rule That Perpetrated Slavery And Legalized Rape

This was the legal doctrine that made any child of an American female slave a slave as well. It meant any white fathers had no financial responsibility for their progeny. They were free to rape their slaves at will as there were no laws against that either. With no concern for any children that might come from the forced union. In fact, there was a market for mulatto and octaroon children who would be purchased to work as domestics. Some owners (Thomas Jefferson) used their half-white slaves as their concubines, finding them more attractive the closer they were to white. Sally Hemings was Jefferson’s wife’s half-sister, the product of her father raping a slave. Then again the master might sell their offspring to keep the peace with their wives who might be annoyed at little slave children running around who favor their husbands.

Not talked about in proper society were the children of free white women and black slaves. White women who weren’t sure what color the child might be could get a legal abortion those days. “Cottonwood” was a remedy known to slaves who sometimes refused to have children after being raped or as often as the masters would like. Some women would be forced to have over a dozen children if they survived as death during childbirth was relatively common. The rare slave would be offered their freedom if they produced enough children. Sometimes the dark child of a white woman was abandoned or given away. Usually just sold off although technically they were legally free.

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Why are you complaining about how whites treated blacks back in the day. This is 2021. Racism is not gone but whites today are not the same. Today a lot of what claim to be racism is false. There are exceptions but if your behavior puts you in a negative light, i don't treat you by the color if your. skin. I treat you by your behavior.

 

[MizMolly]

The vast majority of white Americans had no ancestor buying/selling slaves, so stop with mass blanket generalizations. Black nuclear families were every bit intact as white families until about 1970.

No but they did have ancestors telling blacks to get in the back of the bus and dont even think about eating at the same table they do. Many still think that way.

You ASSume that. I don't eat at the same table with strangers. You give off a hostile attitude, you will be rejected, black or white.

 

[Blues Man]

so you are still saying the data from years worth of convictions and sentencing is wrong but you have yet to prove it is wrong

I think the data is just numbers

what is your reaction to the data?

you keep tapdancing around that

I believe that black men get longer sentences than white men fro the same crime.

Now are you going to show how that sentencing data is wrong as you claim?

 

[Blues Man]

Either Blacks get longer sentences for the same crimes as whites or they don't which is it?

Given that blacks are more likely to be repeat offenders, does that surprise you, if true.

not necessarily true and the Sentencing Commission report accounts for that anyway

 

[beagle9]

The descendants of the same people who would break up black families by selling them are today the loudest talking people trying to diss the black community about single parent families.

When people start talking about race, there are just some simple realities that cannot be denied. If you are white and don't like how you are portrayed, start thinking about how unpleasant it really is for us who are not white to be portrayed as weak inferior people who got conquered by a supposedly superior race and culture. It is not a pleasant subject. For this to end we all must face the unpleasantness.

The doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem comes from European civil law. It means; “That which is brought forth follows the belly.” This principle determined the legal status of children born by slave women in the America as well as other English or European colonies In colonial law, the partus doctrine justified enslavement, the indigenous people of the Americas and of the Africans imported to various European colonies personal property of those who imported them.

During the time American was a colony, this doctrine established de facto and de jure slavery for all children born to female slaves. Partus sequitur ventrem exempted the father from his obligations to children he fathered by slaves thereby creating the ability for slaveowners to have their way with enslaved women. Under this doctrine the biological father had no paternal responsibility to any child born to a slave woman. Because of this the slaver was provided the right to profit from exploiting the labor of children born to slaves. It gave the slaver the ability to sell children by taking them away from their biological parents. Partus sequitur ventrem was the doctrine that created the first family separation policy in what is now America.

Despite the claims of Africans selling each other, the doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem does not appear to be a part of the system of African slavery.

Partus Sequitur Ventrem — The Rule That Perpetrated Slavery And Legalized Rape

This was the legal doctrine that made any child of an American female slave a slave as well. It meant any white fathers had no financial responsibility for their progeny. They were free to rape their slaves at will as there were no laws against that either. With no concern for any children that might come from the forced union. In fact, there was a market for mulatto and octaroon children who would be purchased to work as domestics. Some owners (Thomas Jefferson) used their half-white slaves as their concubines, finding them more attractive the closer they were to white. Sally Hemings was Jefferson’s wife’s half-sister, the product of her father raping a slave. Then again the master might sell their offspring to keep the peace with their wives who might be annoyed at little slave children running around who favor their husbands.

Not talked about in proper society were the children of free white women and black slaves. White women who weren’t sure what color the child might be could get a legal abortion those days. “Cottonwood” was a remedy known to slaves who sometimes refused to have children after being raped or as often as the masters would like. Some women would be forced to have over a dozen children if they survived as death during childbirth was relatively common. The rare slave would be offered their freedom if they produced enough children. Sometimes the dark child of a white woman was abandoned or given away. Usually just sold off although technically they were legally free.

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Why are you complaining about how whites treated blacks back in the day. This is 2021. Racism is not gone but whites today are not the same. Today a lot of what claim to be racism is false. There are exceptions but if your behavior puts you in a negative light, i don't treat you by the color if your. skin. I treat you by your behavior.

Good post, because King stressed that point in his famous speech (Character).

Of course you can't use Character over skin color, because that breaks the ties that bind, and that's the way that those like IM2 figure it.

IM2 thinking - Judge not upon a man's character in life, but keep judging him on the color of his skin dumb ace white man, because then we can claim racism and you will lose everytime white man.

 

[beagle9]

The vast majority of white Americans had no ancestor buying/selling slaves, so stop with mass blanket generalizations. Black nuclear families were every bit intact as white families until about 1970.

No but they did have ancestors telling blacks to get in the back of the bus and dont even think about eating at the same table they do. Many still think that way.

You ASSume that. I don't eat at the same table with strangers. You give off a hostile attitude, you will be rejected, black or white.

Not only that, but if a black or white patron comes to sit at the table with a hoodie on in 90° weather, and their pants sagging down below their aces showing their underwear, then you damn straight me and my family are going to reject them sitting at the table with us to eat.

 

[AveryJarhman]

The descendants of the same people who would break up black families by selling them are today the loudest talking people trying to diss the black community about single parent families.


When people start talking about race, there are just some simple realities that cannot be denied. If you are white and don't like how you are portrayed, start thinking about how unpleasant it really is for us who are not white to be portrayed as weak inferior people who got conquered by a supposedly superior race and culture. It is not a pleasant subject. For this to end we all must face the unpleasantness.


The doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem comes from European civil law. It means; “That which is brought forth follows the belly.” This principle determined the legal status of children born by slave women in the America as well as other English or European colonies In colonial law, the partus doctrine justified enslavement, the indigenous people of the Americas and of the Africans imported to various European colonies personal property of those who imported them.


During the time American was a colony, this doctrine established de facto and de jure slavery for all children born to female slaves. Partus sequitur ventrem exempted the father from his obligations to children he fathered by slaves thereby creating the ability for slaveowners to have their way with enslaved women. Under this doctrine the biological father had no paternal responsibility to any child born to a slave woman. Because of this the slaver was provided the right to profit from exploiting the labor of children born to slaves. It gave the slaver the ability to sell children by taking them away from their biological parents. Partus sequitur ventrem was the doctrine that created the first family separation policy in what is now America.


Despite the claims of Africans selling each other, the doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem does not appear to be a part of the system of African slavery.


Partus Sequitur Ventrem — The Rule That Perpetrated Slavery And Legalized Rape


This was the legal doctrine that made any child of an American female slave a slave as well. It meant any white fathers had no financial responsibility for their progeny. They were free to rape their slaves at will as there were no laws against that either. With no concern for any children that might come from the forced union. In fact, there was a market for mulatto and octaroon children who would be purchased to work as domestics. Some owners (Thomas Jefferson) used their half-white slaves as their concubines, finding them more attractive the closer they were to white. Sally Hemings was Jefferson’s wife’s half-sister, the product of her father raping a slave. Then again the master might sell their offspring to keep the peace with their wives who might be annoyed at little slave children running around who favor their husbands.


Not talked about in proper society were the children of free white women and black slaves. White women who weren’t sure what color the child might be could get a legal abortion those days. “Cottonwood” was a remedy known to slaves who sometimes refused to have children after being raped or as often as the masters would like. Some women would be forced to have over a dozen children if they survived as death during childbirth was relatively common. The rare slave would be offered their freedom if they produced enough children. Sometimes the dark child of a white woman was abandoned or given away. Usually just sold off although technically they were legally free.


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Partus Sequitur Ventrem — The Rule That Perpetrated Slavery And Legalized Rape | by William Spivey | Dialogue & Discourse | Medium


Partus sequitur ventrem legal definition of Partus sequitur ventrem (thefreedictionary.com)

Greetings. In 21st Century America who or what is primarily responsible for American children and teens of African descent SUFFERING, THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, America's highest rates of potential life scarring Child Neglect, Abuse, Abandonment and Maltreatment?

"Black Children Have The Highest Abuse Rates," by BlackVoiceNews

https://www.firststar.org/black-children-have-highest-abuse-rates

"The HATE U Give Little Infants Fvvks Everyone" ~Tupac Shakur, Childhood Trauma (ACEs) Victim

"We need more people who care; you know what I'm saying? We need more women, mothers, fathers, we need more of that..." ~Tupac Shakur

Rise in Suicide by Black Children Surprises Researchers (Published 2015)

The rate nearly doubled from 1993 to 2012, surpassing the rate for white children. It was the first time a national study found a higher suicide rate for blacks than for whites of any age group.

www.nytimes.com

☮♥ EndHate2021

 

[AveryJarhman]

Finally, the appearance of Barack Obama on the world stage allows me to say once and for all that a single parent family is not the cause of the problem.

"Mother Issues" [Barack Obama] by Your World



Hello. Keeping it REAL, Factual and Respectful. No Hate.

After being emotionally neglected and abandoned by his SELFISH, immature, apathetic, apparent emotionally troubled mother whose birth name was Stanley, one might think Childhood Trauma (ACEs) victim Barack Obama would be able to empathize with many of the recording artists he and Mrs. Michelle "Girl Power" Obama wife invited to their Nation's home.

Unfortunately, it appears President Obama chose to support, and continues to support the *NO SNITCHING* rule or Community Code of Silence policy embraced by his wife and America's large, divisive, female dominated, *Intra Racial Discrimination and Hate practicing ProBlack community.*

A community harming NO SNITCHING rule declaring, *"You don't talk about my poor behavior, and I won't talk about your poor behavior."*

Sadly, America's ProBlack community *NO SNITCHING* rule includes willfully ignoring dysfunctional maternal behaviors responsible for Childhood Trauma (ACEs) victims Kendrick Lamar, Nasir Jones, Shawn Carter, as well as several other Obama White House guests, composing popular music informing our ENTIRE WORLD that American girls and women of African descent should be viewed as inhuman creatures and hoes or thots unworthy of being treated with basic human respect.

Back in the day Mr. Stevie Wonder, as well as virtually all his musically gifted peers were making music adoring, adulating, praising, honoring, wooing, loving and respecting women. I'm talking about original, classic, family friendly American music art that in my opinion all Americans can and should be proud of.

Yet, in less than one generation all that love evaporated, apparently turning into hate and disdain for women. Why?

What really irks me, instead of choosing to promote a *POSITIVE HEALTHY IMAGE* for American citizens of African descent, President Barack "My Brother's Keeper" Obama decided to promote family, people and Community harming anti-social behaviors vividly described in the popular music composed by emotionally troubled citizens who *THRU NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN,* were deprived of enjoying a *SAFE,* fairly or wonderfully happy childhood upbringing that MEDICAL SCIENCE declares all children have an *ABSOLUTE NEED* to experience during a critical period of childhood development.

Back in the day, Tupac shared a teachable moment when revealing his definition for THUGLIFE, as well as his belief that it impacts EVERYONE of all ages and backgrounds >>>

*"The HATE U Give Little Infants Fvvks Everyone"* ~Tupac Shakur, Childhood Trauma (ACEs) Victim

According to SCIENTIFIC Medical Research it appears Tupac was correct!

Early Brain Child Development SCIENTIST, Dr. Bruce D. Perry MD, PhD, spills the beans to Childhood Trauma (ACEs) victim Oprah Winfrey, offering SCIENTIFIC medical research explaining why children who grow up witnessing or experiencing violence, chaos, uncertainty, inconsistency or neglect are more vulnerable, having much HIGHER RATES of risk for mental health problems, much higher rates of risk for doing poorly in school or just functioning in the world:



Cali Surgeon General Dr. Nadine Burke Harris, MD, MPH, FAAP, explains Childhood Trauma, Neglect, Maltreatment and *ADULT MENTAL HEALTH:*



Dr. Harris offers 'SOULutions' for ending HATE & Violence:



https://www.firststar.org/black-children-have-highest-abuse-rates/ by BlackVoiceNews

*We need more people who care; you know what I'm saying? We need more women, mothers, fathers, we need more of that..."* ~Tupac Shakur

I look forward to reading thoughtful, intelligent replies, as well as solutions for *PREVENTING* perfectly healthy newborns, from maturing into emotionally troubled teen and adult citizens largely lacking respect for women, as well as empathy and compassion for their peaceful or less fortunate neighbors.




Peace EndHate2021

 

[Mac-7]

I believe that black men get longer sentences than white men fro the same crime.

But you are afraid to say why

is it systemic racism or not?

 

[Bobob]

The descendants of the same people who would break up black families by selling them are today the loudest talking people trying to diss the black community about single parent families.

When people start talking about race, there are just some simple realities that cannot be denied. If you are white and don't like how you are portrayed, start thinking about how unpleasant it really is for us who are not white to be portrayed as weak inferior people who got conquered by a supposedly superior race and culture. It is not a pleasant subject. For this to end we all must face the unpleasantness.

The doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem comes from European civil law. It means; “That which is brought forth follows the belly.” This principle determined the legal status of children born by slave women in the America as well as other English or European colonies In colonial law, the partus doctrine justified enslavement, the indigenous people of the Americas and of the Africans imported to various European colonies personal property of those who imported them.

During the time American was a colony, this doctrine established de facto and de jure slavery for all children born to female slaves. Partus sequitur ventrem exempted the father from his obligations to children he fathered by slaves thereby creating the ability for slaveowners to have their way with enslaved women. Under this doctrine the biological father had no paternal responsibility to any child born to a slave woman. Because of this the slaver was provided the right to profit from exploiting the labor of children born to slaves. It gave the slaver the ability to sell children by taking them away from their biological parents. Partus sequitur ventrem was the doctrine that created the first family separation policy in what is now America.

Despite the claims of Africans selling each other, the doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem does not appear to be a part of the system of African slavery.

Partus Sequitur Ventrem — The Rule That Perpetrated Slavery And Legalized Rape

This was the legal doctrine that made any child of an American female slave a slave as well. It meant any white fathers had no financial responsibility for their progeny. They were free to rape their slaves at will as there were no laws against that either. With no concern for any children that might come from the forced union. In fact, there was a market for mulatto and octaroon children who would be purchased to work as domestics. Some owners (Thomas Jefferson) used their half-white slaves as their concubines, finding them more attractive the closer they were to white. Sally Hemings was Jefferson’s wife’s half-sister, the product of her father raping a slave. Then again the master might sell their offspring to keep the peace with their wives who might be annoyed at little slave children running around who favor their husbands.

Not talked about in proper society were the children of free white women and black slaves. White women who weren’t sure what color the child might be could get a legal abortion those days. “Cottonwood” was a remedy known to slaves who sometimes refused to have children after being raped or as often as the masters would like. Some women would be forced to have over a dozen children if they survived as death during childbirth was relatively common. The rare slave would be offered their freedom if they produced enough children. Sometimes the dark child of a white woman was abandoned or given away. Usually just sold off although technically they were legally free.

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Partus sequitur ventrem legal definition of Partus sequitur ventrem (thefreedictionary.com)

Black families without fathers over the past sixty years wasn't caused by slavery, IM2...it's something that took place because of a short sighted welfare system that made it financially beneficial to NOT have a father in the house incentivized that to take place!

Of course sending jobs overseas that once made it possible for people to survive had nothing to do with it. It all goes back to the same thing. Slavery, the dismantling of our manufacturing. Greed.

The dismantling of manufacturing in our country was the result of high costs, which resulted in manufacturing losing its competitive edge. The alternative was to move or close. They don't move to make more money (with exceptions) but move to remain profitable. The cost of moving is very high and is done out of desperation
as companies see the writing on the wall.

 

[pknopp]

The descendants of the same people who would break up black families by selling them are today the loudest talking people trying to diss the black community about single parent families.

When people start talking about race, there are just some simple realities that cannot be denied. If you are white and don't like how you are portrayed, start thinking about how unpleasant it really is for us who are not white to be portrayed as weak inferior people who got conquered by a supposedly superior race and culture. It is not a pleasant subject. For this to end we all must face the unpleasantness.

The doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem comes from European civil law. It means; “That which is brought forth follows the belly.” This principle determined the legal status of children born by slave women in the America as well as other English or European colonies In colonial law, the partus doctrine justified enslavement, the indigenous people of the Americas and of the Africans imported to various European colonies personal property of those who imported them.

During the time American was a colony, this doctrine established de facto and de jure slavery for all children born to female slaves. Partus sequitur ventrem exempted the father from his obligations to children he fathered by slaves thereby creating the ability for slaveowners to have their way with enslaved women. Under this doctrine the biological father had no paternal responsibility to any child born to a slave woman. Because of this the slaver was provided the right to profit from exploiting the labor of children born to slaves. It gave the slaver the ability to sell children by taking them away from their biological parents. Partus sequitur ventrem was the doctrine that created the first family separation policy in what is now America.

Despite the claims of Africans selling each other, the doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem does not appear to be a part of the system of African slavery.

Partus Sequitur Ventrem — The Rule That Perpetrated Slavery And Legalized Rape

This was the legal doctrine that made any child of an American female slave a slave as well. It meant any white fathers had no financial responsibility for their progeny. They were free to rape their slaves at will as there were no laws against that either. With no concern for any children that might come from the forced union. In fact, there was a market for mulatto and octaroon children who would be purchased to work as domestics. Some owners (Thomas Jefferson) used their half-white slaves as their concubines, finding them more attractive the closer they were to white. Sally Hemings was Jefferson’s wife’s half-sister, the product of her father raping a slave. Then again the master might sell their offspring to keep the peace with their wives who might be annoyed at little slave children running around who favor their husbands.

Not talked about in proper society were the children of free white women and black slaves. White women who weren’t sure what color the child might be could get a legal abortion those days. “Cottonwood” was a remedy known to slaves who sometimes refused to have children after being raped or as often as the masters would like. Some women would be forced to have over a dozen children if they survived as death during childbirth was relatively common. The rare slave would be offered their freedom if they produced enough children. Sometimes the dark child of a white woman was abandoned or given away. Usually just sold off although technically they were legally free.

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Partus sequitur ventrem legal definition of Partus sequitur ventrem (thefreedictionary.com)

Black families without fathers over the past sixty years wasn't caused by slavery, IM2...it's something that took place because of a short sighted welfare system that made it financially beneficial to NOT have a father in the house incentivized that to take place!

Of course sending jobs overseas that once made it possible for people to survive had nothing to do with it. It all goes back to the same thing. Slavery, the dismantling of our manufacturing. Greed.

The dismantling of manufacturing in our country was the result of high costs, which resulted in manufacturing losing its competitive edge. The alternative was to move or close. They don't move to make more money (with exceptions) but move to remain profitable. The cost of moving is very high and is done out of desperation
as companies see the writing on the wall.

Germany addressed that without allowing their manufacturing to leave.

 

[Blues Man]

I believe that black men get longer sentences than white men fro the same crime.

But you are afraid to say why

is it systemic racism or not?

It doesn't matter why it only matters that it is and that we do something to rectify the issue.

 

[Mac-7]

It doesn't matter why it only matters that it is and that we do something to rectify the issue.

How can you “do something” is you dont know the cause of the problem?

are you just going to blindly impose quotas on black convictions?

 

[Blues Man]

It doesn't matter why it only matters that it is and that we do something to rectify the issue.

How can you “do something” is you dont know the cause of the problem?

are you just going to blindly impose quotas on black convictions?

The problem is that Black men get sentenced to longer prison sentences than White men for the same crimes.

The solution is to either give White men the same sentences that Black men get for the same crimes or to give Black men the same sentences as White men for the same crimes.

Why are you so hell bent on what you think is the cause when the solution is so simple?

You want me to say that the system is racist and I really don't care if it is I care about equal treatment for all people no matter the color of their skin. We have concrete proof that all people are not being treated equally. IMO THAT is the problem and the solution is to treat all people equally.

If that means strict sentencing guidelines then so be it. I'm all for sentences for crimes being held to mandatory minimums or maximums as long as that standard applies to every single person who stands trial in a court of law.

We give judges and juries far too much leeway when it comes to sentencing.

 

[hadit]

We have been specific many times.

You mean arguing with or resisting the police.

thats not the way most white people act when they are pulled over

but there are exceptions

As you note, you do not have to simply bend over when your rights are going to be violated. Some reason causes you want blacks to do so.

Standing up for your rights is a noble thing. That aside, however, consider the practicalities of the situation. An armed officer is going to violate your rights and is authorized to use violence to subdue you if you do not comply. And should you fight back enough to become a threat, he/she can kill you. Then, should you manage to get away, the entire police force is looking for you and will arrest you on sight. Now, is it better to "stand up for your rights" and be beaten, a wanted fugitive, maybe dead, or comply and let a lawyer have a field day getting you a big paycheck?

 

[pknopp]

We have been specific many times.

You mean arguing with or resisting the police.

thats not the way most white people act when they are pulled over

but there are exceptions

As you note, you do not have to simply bend over when your rights are going to be violated. Some reason causes you want blacks to do so.

Standing up for your rights is a noble thing. That aside, however, consider the practicalities of the situation. An armed officer is going to violate your rights and is authorized to use violence to subdue you if you do not comply. And should you fight back enough to become a threat, he/she can kill you. Then, should you manage to get away, the entire police force is looking for you and will arrest you on sight. Now, is it better to "stand up for your rights" and be beaten, a wanted fugitive, maybe dead, or comply and let a lawyer have a field day getting you a big paycheck?

That's changing.

 

[Mac-7]

The solution is to either give White men the same sentences that Black men get for the same crimes or to give Black men the same sentences as White men for the same crimes.

The crimes are never exactly the same

Clever hair-splitting lawyers saw to that going back to jolly olde england

if the law were that simple we would not need the services of lawyers

someone pointed out a disparity in the (bad) behavior of black criminals in court.

that makes a difference as does prior convictions and the exact nature of the crime

 

[Mac-7]

Now, is it better to "stand up for your rights" and be beaten, a wanted fugitive, maybe dead, or comply and let a lawyer have a field day getting you a big paycheck?

According to the surgeon general of california black kids are brain damaged by broken homes and violent adults in the hood and something just snaps that they cant control

 

[Blues Man]

The solution is to either give White men the same sentences that Black men get for the same crimes or to give Black men the same sentences as White men for the same crimes.

The crimes are never exactly the same

Clever hair-splitting lawyers saw to that going back to jolly olde england

if the law were that simple we would not need the services of lawyers

someone pointed out a disparity in the (bad) behavior of black criminals in court.

that makes a difference as does prior convictions and the exact nature of the crime

They are similar enough.

Do you really want to split hairs on the crimes?

And the sentencing commission accounted for prior crimes in their results which I have already told you and the disparity is still present.

And you are ignoring the fact that if a Black man was arrested and tried for some crime and a White person was not arrested for that very same crime that your assumption that Blacks commit more crimes is flawed.

And once again we come down to the rules that law enforcement works within.