The sources of Trump's wiretap claim are revealed today by the Washington Post

[Hutch Starskey]

meanwhile, Jeff Sessions intentionally lied and mislead Congress, under oath...

LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!

He answered the question in the context in which it was asked, which was specifically regarding the campaign staff and surrogates. He answered truthfully. The fact that he didn't expand his answer to include contacts connected to his senate duties doesn't mean he lied in relation to what he was doing with the campaign.

He answered the question in the context in which it was asked, which was specifically regarding the campaign staff and surrogates.

Except of course, he didn't. Not even close.
Sessions answered a question he was never asked. Franken never asked him if he had met with Russian officials.

You claim that you're interested in details but ignore the most important ones in favor of BS.

I see you're up on the latest talking points.

You're straight up full of shit.

Please provide the video of Franken asking Sessions if he had ever met with Russian officials.

See post # 170

Nothing to see here folks.

 

[Markle]

Bush Administration Asks Congress for Expansion of Surveillance Law

Obama signs Patriot Act extension into law
BY PETE KASPEROWICZ - 02/25/11 07:42 PM EST

President Obama on Friday signed into law a bill that extends three Patriot Act surveillance authorities until late May.

Obama signed the "FISA Sunsets Extension Act of 2011," which refers to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Surveillance authorities under that act were extended in part by amending the USA Patriot Improvement and Reauthorization Act.

With Obama's signature, the ability of the United States to access business records, conduct roving wiretaps and monitor individual terrorists is maintained until May 27. The administration has said it supports a longer extension, and the Senate next week will begin working on a three-year extension.

Obama signs Patriot Act extension into law

 

[Coyote]

The Phone call occurred in Trump Tower.
The Washington Post was given a Transcript of it.
That Act was a Felony because the only way anyone was able to gain a transcript of such a call was through a Wire Tap. This was classified information, and FISA and wire taps of any sort are not supposed to be used against American Citizens, and since Flynn committed no crimes, exactly what was "The Probable Cause" for such a wire tap?

So is Clapper lying when he said there was no Wire Tapping at Trump Tower?
He already lied to congress once: Eric Snowden Proved that.

Or was he lying when he said there is no Collusion between the Trump team and Russia?

Please answer the questions.

And then answer this: Where is Waldo?

Obama Bin Lying is an opinionated ahole. So why hasn't he come out of his bunker with Valerie Vagina Jarret and denied the wire tapping story?

And Where is Big Mouth Hillary Rotten Clinton to throw her two cents in?
Clinton: ‘Why aren’t I 50 points ahead?’ of Trump - The Washington Post

How about Jill "Doesn't Shave Her Armpits" Stein? She loves the spotlight, so why is she in hiding? She doesn't have an opinion on this?

Trump Tower was not wire tapped. The Russian ambassador was. When he talked with contacts in Trump Tower those conversations were naturally recorded. Just like the ambassador's conversations with other people in other places (and no, those places weren't wiretapped either)

Yeah.....I hear that's the latest excuse the Obama people are giving.
It wasn't Trump they were spying on....it was the Russians.
I guess if you're a lib that shit makes sense to you.

The facts make sense. If it was Trump being spied on...well...all he has to do is offer up his "proof" but he's walking it back isn't he?

 

[Dr Grump]

The Phone call occurred in Trump Tower.
The Washington Post was given a Transcript of it.
That Act was a Felony because the only way anyone was able to gain a transcript of such a call was through a Wire Tap. This was classified information, and FISA and wire taps of any sort are not supposed to be used against American Citizens, and since Flynn committed no crimes, exactly what was "The Probable Cause" for such a wire tap?

So is Clapper lying when he said there was no Wire Tapping at Trump Tower?
He already lied to congress once: Eric Snowden Proved that.

Or was he lying when he said there is no Collusion between the Trump team and Russia?

Please answer the questions.

And then answer this: Where is Waldo?

Obama Bin Lying is an opinionated ahole. So why hasn't he come out of his bunker with Valerie Vagina Jarret and denied the wire tapping story?

And Where is Big Mouth Hillary Rotten Clinton to throw her two cents in?
Clinton: ‘Why aren’t I 50 points ahead?’ of Trump - The Washington Post

How about Jill "Doesn't Shave Her Armpits" Stein? She loves the spotlight, so why is she in hiding? She doesn't have an opinion on this?

Trump Tower was not wire tapped. The Russian ambassador was. When he talked with contacts in Trump Tower those conversations were naturally recorded. Just like the ambassador's conversations with other people in other places (and no, those places weren't wiretapped either)

Yeah.....I hear that's the latest excuse the Obama people are giving.
It wasn't Trump they were spying on....it was the Russians.
I guess if you're a lib that shit makes sense to you.

The facts make sense. If it was Trump being spied on...well...all he has to do is offer up his "proof" but he's walking it back isn't he?

The Phone call occurred in Trump Tower.
The Washington Post was given a Transcript of it.
That Act was a Felony because the only way anyone was able to gain a transcript of such a call was through a Wire Tap. This was classified information, and FISA and wire taps of any sort are not supposed to be used against American Citizens, and since Flynn committed no crimes, exactly what was "The Probable Cause" for such a wire tap?

So is Clapper lying when he said there was no Wire Tapping at Trump Tower?
He already lied to congress once: Eric Snowden Proved that.

Or was he lying when he said there is no Collusion between the Trump team and Russia?

Please answer the questions.

And then answer this: Where is Waldo?

Obama Bin Lying is an opinionated ahole. So why hasn't he come out of his bunker with Valerie Vagina Jarret and denied the wire tapping story?

And Where is Big Mouth Hillary Rotten Clinton to throw her two cents in?
Clinton: ‘Why aren’t I 50 points ahead?’ of Trump - The Washington Post

How about Jill "Doesn't Shave Her Armpits" Stein? She loves the spotlight, so why is she in hiding? She doesn't have an opinion on this?

Trump Tower was not wire tapped. The Russian ambassador was. When he talked with contacts in Trump Tower those conversations were naturally recorded. Just like the ambassador's conversations with other people in other places (and no, those places weren't wiretapped either)

Yeah.....I hear that's the latest excuse the Obama people are giving.
It wasn't Trump they were spying on....it was the Russians.
I guess if you're a lib that shit makes sense to you.

The facts make sense. If it was Trump being spied on...well...all he has to do is offer up his "proof" but he's walking it back isn't he?

Don't neocon loons realise that when The Orange Buffoon opens his big, fat gob the chances of him lying are quite high? They haven't figured that out yet? Hhhmmm....

 

[Coyote]

The Phone call occurred in Trump Tower.
The Washington Post was given a Transcript of it.
That Act was a Felony because the only way anyone was able to gain a transcript of such a call was through a Wire Tap. This was classified information, and FISA and wire taps of any sort are not supposed to be used against American Citizens, and since Flynn committed no crimes, exactly what was "The Probable Cause" for such a wire tap?

So is Clapper lying when he said there was no Wire Tapping at Trump Tower?
He already lied to congress once: Eric Snowden Proved that.

Or was he lying when he said there is no Collusion between the Trump team and Russia?

Please answer the questions.

And then answer this: Where is Waldo?

Obama Bin Lying is an opinionated ahole. So why hasn't he come out of his bunker with Valerie Vagina Jarret and denied the wire tapping story?

And Where is Big Mouth Hillary Rotten Clinton to throw her two cents in?
Clinton: ‘Why aren’t I 50 points ahead?’ of Trump - The Washington Post

How about Jill "Doesn't Shave Her Armpits" Stein? She loves the spotlight, so why is she in hiding? She doesn't have an opinion on this?

Trump Tower was not wire tapped. The Russian ambassador was. When he talked with contacts in Trump Tower those conversations were naturally recorded. Just like the ambassador's conversations with other people in other places (and no, those places weren't wiretapped either)

Prove that.

You're asking me to prove a negative.

It's up to the person who claimed it was to prove the assertion. Where's Trump's proof?

On the other hand, there IS plenty of proof that the Russian ambassador was wiretapped.

 

[edthecynic]

Really? I thought it was this:

Trump claimed that Trump tower was wiretapped, while the NSA wiretaped the Russian embassy.

That isn't what the article says. We know that the Obama administration at the very least tried to get FISA warrants to spy on the opposition candidate by bugging Trump Tower. Obama ran by FAR the most corrupt administration in American history, more of an organized crime mob than a legitimate administration. Sorry, the evidence points to Obama doing precisely what Trump claimed.

That is exactly what the article said, and you know it!

From the NY Times article:

The counterintelligence investigation centers at least in part on the business dealings that some of the president-elect’s past and present advisers have had with Russia. Mr. Manafort has done business in Ukraine and Russia. Some of his contacts there were under surveillance by the National Security Agency for suspected links to Russia’s Federal Security Service, one of the officials said.

 

[edthecynic]

And that explains why a FISA warrant was refused originally,

Prove there WAS a FISA warrant first!

 

[Coyote]

To Boost Trump Wiretap Claims, White House Leans On Unlikely Source

President Trump's repeated and unsubstantiated claims over the weekend that then-President Barack Obama had him wiretapped at Trump Tower at the height of last year's election season set off alarms in the corridors of power and also a constant refrain from lawmakers, former spymasters and journalists:


Where's your proof?


Aides soon pointed to news reports for support, including a most unlikely source: an article by a former British politician who dryly notes that her reporting doesn't back up Trump's allegations.

That would be Louise Mensch, founder of the center-right libertarian political site Heat Street. Her post back in November went largely unmentioned by major American news outlets. But since the White House sent out links to her story, among others, to reporters for PolitiFact, The Washington Post and other outlets, Heat Street's Mensch has been in the hot seat.


"My phone's been blowing up and my emails have been blowing up, and my direct messages on Twitter have been blowing up," Mensch tells NPR. "I'm just not answering any of them, because who knows what's in them. But I did wonder why the White House was wasting an entire day on trying to make it seem like I — or even The New York Times — had reported a wiretap on Trump Tower."


Trump's accusatory tweets had packed in a series of separate claims with these two being the most explosive: that a wiretap was ordered and that Obama had been personally involved in ordering it. Mensch did not cite Obama's involvement or any wiretap.​

Rut roh....

There are two ironies in the White House's efforts to cite Mensch's reporting to bolster the boss's case.


First, as Mensch says, her report doesn't say what they claim. Second, while Rupert Murdoch warmed to Trump and strongly supports him, Mensch openly opposes him. She called herself a "Never Trumper" and earlier declared herself a Republican for Hillary Clinton.


Indeed, Trump's aides are relying on the reporting of a writer who thinks the man in the Oval Office should be impeached.​

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

We don't need proof of obvious truthhoods. Did we know the earth was round before the space exploration? Of course we did.

Because we already had proof before space exploration, prior to that it was believed to be flat.

Not really the idea of a spherical earth dates back to 6th Century BC.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

HaShev, post: 16738315

I don't understand how the liberal media can keep lying and claiming there is no proof, because this contradicts their whole stink about Flynn based on wire taps "that occured at Trump towers", in fact the no proof argument backfires on the whole trying to claim Russians colluded with the new administration, as all the agencies claim there is not one single evidence of such.

You seem to forget that Flynn lied to the FBI and supposedly to Pence. Then he was disgracefully fired. He should have know Russians can be legally bugged. Flynn not only lied he was stupid to think he could get away with it.

Obama has denied authorizing or requesting a wire tap be put on Trump's phone. No one can prove that Obama is lying. Flynn confessed to lying. Flynn lied. Obama is not lying.

Trump is lying about Obama as we speak. Trump is not fit to stay in office for abusing his power and tweeting that Obama committed a crime worse than watergate based on a right wing radio nut job's rant.

Trump authorized Carter Page who worked on Trump's campaign to make a trip to Moscow last summer.

Trump denied having anything to do softening the hardline plank against Russia over Ukraine in the RNC platform. Now Trump campaign officials confessed that Trump ordered it.

Now payback to Russia is coming in the form of putting Putin true friend to lead the State Department and then Putin's US Sec of State is standing quietly by while Trump proposes cutting State Department budget by 1/3rd.

Putin benefits with a US State Department being gutted by so much under Trump appointed Putin buddy. Rex Tillerson.

 

[12icer]

There is much more proof of the wiretap than of the Trump campaign having any contact related to the election with Russia. In fact there is definitive evidence because of the fact that more information was released about the Flynn conversations than a conversation with anyone in Russia. The content was from more than one conversation and some of it was INCOUNTRY. meaning that it was between two phone lines that were not subject to being tapped unless there was a warrant issued for something. Since there were no existing warrants, there was no way that there could be a real transcript of the parts that were NOT international. Since they inferred the transcripts were TRUE then the violation of The right to be secure in oneself is definitely violated and the felony is VALID, and requires all involved in the sharing of the information to be prosecuted for FELONY CONSPIRACY. So your shithole idea of they didn't do anything!!! is out the door, and IF the Republican congress does not take this chance to file the charges, and try and convict all involved they will lose their only chance to get rid of lying shit liberal FOREVER. WE are going to be rid of this shit by whatever means are needed. You may as well get ready if you try to get over we are going to shove you into a hole you can't climb out of and if the shit in office doesn't do it we will. Americans are tired of liberal thieving lying intimidation, and their smug idea that they are smarter when they are so stupid they are lucky to count their fingers. Liberals especially oshitma-shitbitch supporters are the stupidest most disgustingly vile creatures to ever inhabit the earth, and we should enact retroactive abortion, ask liberal dimshits if they are pro abortion and if they say yes, Give them what they like a retroactive abortion.

 

[RASTAMEN]

meanwhile, Jeff Sessions intentionally lied and mislead Congress, under oath...

LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!

He answered the question in the context in which it was asked, which was specifically regarding the campaign staff and surrogates. He answered truthfully. The fact that he didn't expand his answer to include contacts connected to his senate duties doesn't mean he lied in relation to what he was doing with the campaign.

Sessions answered a question HE WAS NEVER ASKED, by Franken...

Sessions CHOSE to insert this ''answer'' in to his testimony, even though, Sessions was NEVER ASKED to answer such question.

Sessions intentionally LIED....under oath, to DECEIVE and MISLEAD.

listen to the encounter, Franken never asked him if he met with the Russians, and never asked if other Trump people talkd to Russians...

Franken asked, IF these Trump campaigners DID speak with the Russians and are investigated, what will you do, as AG Jeff Sessions? Franken was HOPING to hear Sessions say,

I WILL RECUSE MYSELF.

Fraken stumbled, mumbled and bumbled an extremely long convoluted question, if Sessions had been smart, he wouldn't have given an answer at all. Instead he should have asked Franken to clarify the question. Franken is worse than you dear leader when he gets off script.

The only problem is Sessions isn't smart!

 

[RASTAMEN]

There is much more proof of the wiretap than of the Trump campaign having any contact related to the election with Russia. In fact there is definitive evidence because of the fact that more information was released about the Flynn conversations than a conversation with anyone in Russia. The content was from more than one conversation and some of it was INCOUNTRY. meaning that it was between two phone lines that were not subject to being tapped unless there was a warrant issued for something. Since there were no existing warrants, there was no way that there could be a real transcript of the parts that were NOT international. Since they inferred the transcripts were TRUE then the violation of The right to be secure in oneself is definitely violated and the felony is VALID, and requires all involved in the sharing of the information to be prosecuted for FELONY CONSPIRACY. So your shithole idea of they didn't do anything!!! is out the door, and IF the Republican congress does not take this chance to file the charges, and try and convict all involved they will lose their only chance to get rid of lying shit liberal FOREVER. WE are going to be rid of this shit by whatever means are needed. You may as well get ready if you try to get over we are going to shove you into a hole you can't climb out of and if the shit in office doesn't do it we will. Americans are tired of liberal thieving lying intimidation, and their smug idea that they are smarter when they are so stupid they are lucky to count their fingers. Liberals especially oshitma-shitbitch supporters are the stupidest most disgustingly vile creatures to ever inhabit the earth, and we should enact retroactive abortion, ask liberal dimshits if they are pro abortion and if they say yes, Give them what they like a retroactive abortion.

All trump has to do as president is to go to the DOJ and find out if "He" wired tapped! What is he waiting for???

 

[HaShev]

The Phone call occurred in Trump Tower.
The Washington Post was given a Transcript of it.
That Act was a Felony because the only way anyone was able to gain a transcript of such a call was through a Wire Tap. This was classified information, and FISA and wire taps of any sort are not supposed to be used against American Citizens, and since Flynn committed no crimes, exactly what was "The Probable Cause" for such a wire tap?

So is Clapper lying when he said there was no Wire Tapping at Trump Tower?
He already lied to congress once: Eric Snowden Proved that.

Or was he lying when he said there is no Collusion between the Trump team and Russia?

Please answer the questions.

And then answer this: Where is Waldo?

Obama Bin Lying is an opinionated ahole. So why hasn't he come out of his bunker with Valerie Vagina Jarret and denied the wire tapping story?

And Where is Big Mouth Hillary Rotten Clinton to throw her two cents in?
Clinton: ‘Why aren’t I 50 points ahead?’ of Trump - The Washington Post

How about Jill "Doesn't Shave Her Armpits" Stein? She loves the spotlight, so why is she in hiding? She doesn't have an opinion on this?

Trump Tower was not wire tapped. The Russian ambassador was. When he talked with contacts in Trump Tower those conversations were naturally recorded. Just like the ambassador's conversations with other people in other places (and no, those places weren't wiretapped either)

Yeah.....I hear that's the latest excuse the Obama people are giving.
It wasn't Trump they were spying on....it was the Russians.
I guess if you're a lib that shit makes sense to you.

The facts make sense. If it was Trump being spied on...well...all he has to do is offer up his "proof" but he's walking it back isn't he?

The Phone call occurred in Trump Tower.
The Washington Post was given a Transcript of it.
That Act was a Felony because the only way anyone was able to gain a transcript of such a call was through a Wire Tap. This was classified information, and FISA and wire taps of any sort are not supposed to be used against American Citizens, and since Flynn committed no crimes, exactly what was "The Probable Cause" for such a wire tap?

So is Clapper lying when he said there was no Wire Tapping at Trump Tower?
He already lied to congress once: Eric Snowden Proved that.

Or was he lying when he said there is no Collusion between the Trump team and Russia?

Please answer the questions.

And then answer this: Where is Waldo?

Obama Bin Lying is an opinionated ahole. So why hasn't he come out of his bunker with Valerie Vagina Jarret and denied the wire tapping story?

And Where is Big Mouth Hillary Rotten Clinton to throw her two cents in?
Clinton: ‘Why aren’t I 50 points ahead?’ of Trump - The Washington Post

How about Jill "Doesn't Shave Her Armpits" Stein? She loves the spotlight, so why is she in hiding? She doesn't have an opinion on this?

Trump Tower was not wire tapped. The Russian ambassador was. When he talked with contacts in Trump Tower those conversations were naturally recorded. Just like the ambassador's conversations with other people in other places (and no, those places weren't wiretapped either)

Yeah.....I hear that's the latest excuse the Obama people are giving.
It wasn't Trump they were spying on....it was the Russians.
I guess if you're a lib that shit makes sense to you.

The facts make sense. If it was Trump being spied on...well...all he has to do is offer up his "proof" but he's walking it back isn't he?

Don't neocon loons realise that when The Orange Buffoon opens his big, fat gob the chances of him lying are quite high? They haven't figured that out yet? Hhhmmm....

Are you describing Hillary in her Orange suit?
Seriously you are gonna use ad hominem responses demonizing apponents because you have what? Anger, animosity?
SO MUCH FOR the party of tolerance.
Most hostile angry people I've ever seen.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Okay... and?

Not into comprehension are you? What does the second column say? Glad though, that you wanted it posted again.

I'm sorry, what the hell does your response have to do with what I said.

You said something, but you didn't explain what you think it means, you didn't make an argument, you just posted something. How can I respond to nothing.

Hey, you can try. "Oh, look, Trump is saluting".

 

[RASTAMEN]

There is much more proof of the wiretap than of the Trump campaign having any contact related to the election with Russia. In fact there is definitive evidence because of the fact that more information was released about the Flynn conversations than a conversation with anyone in Russia. The content was from more than one conversation and some of it was INCOUNTRY. meaning that it was between two phone lines that were not subject to being tapped unless there was a warrant issued for something. Since there were no existing warrants, there was no way that there could be a real transcript of the parts that were NOT international. Since they inferred the transcripts were TRUE then the violation of The right to be secure in oneself is definitely violated and the felony is VALID, and requires all involved in the sharing of the information to be prosecuted for FELONY CONSPIRACY. So your shithole idea of they didn't do anything!!! is out the door, and IF the Republican congress does not take this chance to file the charges, and try and convict all involved they will lose their only chance to get rid of lying shit liberal FOREVER. WE are going to be rid of this shit by whatever means are needed. You may as well get ready if you try to get over we are going to shove you into a hole you can't climb out of and if the shit in office doesn't do it we will. Americans are tired of liberal thieving lying intimidation, and their smug idea that they are smarter when they are so stupid they are lucky to count their fingers. Liberals especially oshitma-shitbitch supporters are the stupidest most disgustingly vile creatures to ever inhabit the earth, and we should enact retroactive abortion, ask liberal dimshits if they are pro abortion and if they say yes, Give them what they like a retroactive abortion.

 

[radical right]

meanwhile, Jeff Sessions intentionally lied and mislead Congress, under oath...

He answered the question in the context in which it was asked, which was specifically regarding the campaign staff and surrogates. He answered truthfully. The fact that he didn't expand his answer to include contacts connected to his senate duties doesn't mean he lied in relation to what he was doing with the campaign.

The question was 'what would you do if you found out Trump affiliates were communicating with the Russians?" Sessions didn't answer what he would do, but instead went on a side rant saying "I didn't, I did not have any communications with the russians"

 

[radical right]

Bush Administration Asks Congress for Expansion of Surveillance Law

Obama signs Patriot Act extension into law
BY PETE KASPEROWICZ - 02/25/11 07:42 PM EST

President Obama on Friday signed into law a bill that extends three Patriot Act surveillance authorities until late May.

There is a big difference between expanding FISA and extending those existing expansions? Had Bush never expanded the law, Obama could never have extended it.

 

[RASTAMEN]

meanwhile, Jeff Sessions intentionally lied and mislead Congress, under oath...

LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!

He answered the question in the context in which it was asked, which was specifically regarding the campaign staff and surrogates. He answered truthfully. The fact that he didn't expand his answer to include contacts connected to his senate duties doesn't mean he lied in relation to what he was doing with the campaign.

He answered the question in the context in which it was asked, which was specifically regarding the campaign staff and surrogates.

Except of course, he didn't. Not even close.
Sessions answered a question he was never asked. Franken never asked him if he had met with Russian officials.

You claim that you're interested in details but ignore the most important ones in favor of BS.

I see you're up on the latest talking points.

You're straight up full of shit.

Please provide the video of Franken asking Sessions if he had ever met with Russian officials.

See post # 170

Just Keep your eye on "Russian" questions!!! Money and Espionage! Trump and the boys are getting pretty concerned. Right now Putin has a big smirk-smile on his face.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Just chiming in... anyone read this?

Report: A FISA Warrant Was Issued in October to Investigate Russian Hacking