This is why I am pissed about how many people are on food stamps

Fox News Follows California Beach Bum Living Off Food Stamps For Years - YouTube

Why cant this man WORK. He looks healthy to me , if he can surf he can dig a ditch

you may not like this guys chosen field in how he makes his money ... that's fine ... but the facts are that he is working he's is bringing in a income that allow him to use the food stamp system ... your raggin about 13% of the people in the united states who are on food stamps well its just amazes me when 45 % of the money being spent goes to war machines and building up other governments ... I say you need to take a chill pill ...
 
Fox News Follows California Beach Bum Living Off Food Stamps For Years - YouTube

Why cant this man WORK. He looks healthy to me , if he can surf he can dig a ditch

you may not like this guys chosen field in how he makes his money ... that's fine ... but the facts are that he is working he's is bringing in a income that allow him to use the food stamp system ... your raggin about 13% of the people in the united states who are on food stamps well its just amazes me when 45 % of the money being spent goes to war machines and building up other governments ... I say you need to take a chill pill ...

The largest expense in our fed is entitlement... and yes, the government wastes money in the dept of def and it should be audited.. but food stamps, welfare, etc should be eliminated for any able bodied person able to work..

This guy or anyone else needs to work 2 or 3 jobs to get by, too bad too sad... personal upkeep is a personal responsibility... if you are to a point where you cannot take care of yourself and truly cannot work at all, then it is ok to become a ward of the state.. being taken care of
 
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On the Price of Corn, and Management of the Poor » The History Carper

On the Price of Corn, and Management of the Poor
For the LONDON CHRONICLE.

To Messieurs the PUBLIC and CO. I am one of that class of people that feeds you all, and at present is abus'd by you all; -- in short I am a Farmer.

By your News-papers we are told, that God had sent a very short harvest to some other countries of Europe. I thought this might be in favour to Old England; and that now we should get a good price for our grain, which would bring in millions among us, and make us flow in money, that to be sure is scarce enough.

But the wisdom of Government forbad the exportation.
Well, says I, then we must be content with the market price at home.
No, says my Lords the mob, you sha'n't have that. Bring your corn to market if you dare; -- we'll sell it for you, for less money, or take it for nothing.

Being thus attack'd by both ends of the Constitution, the head and the tail of Government, what am I to do?

Must I keep my corn in barn to feed and increase the breed of rats? -- be it so; -- they cannot be less thankful than those I have been used to feed.

Are we Farmers the only people to be grudged the profits of honest labour? -- And why? -- One of the late scribblers against us gives a bill of fare of the provisions at my daughter's wedding, and proclaims to all the world that we had the insolence to eat beef and pudding! -- Has he never read that precept in the good book, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn; or does he think us less worthy of good living than our oxen?

O, but the Manufacturers! the Manufacturers! they are to be favour'd, and they must have bread at a cheap rate!

Hark-ye, Mr. Oaf; -- The Farmers live splendidly, you say. And pray, would you have them hoard the money they get? -- Their fine cloaths and furniture, do they make them themselves, or for one another, and so keep the money among them? Or do they employ these your darling Manufacturers, and so scatter it again all over the nation?

My wool would produce me a better price if it were suffer'd to go to foreign markets. But that, Messieurs the Public, your laws will not permit. It must be kept all at home, that our dear Manufacturers may have it the cheaper. And then, having yourselves thus lessened our encouragement for raising sheep, you curse us for the scarcity of mutton!

I have heard my grandfather say, that the Farmers submitted to the prohibition on the exportation of wool, being made to expect and believe, that when the Manufacturer bought his wool cheaper, they should have their cloth cheaper. But the deuce a bit. It has been growing dearer and dearer from that day to this. How so? why truly the cloth is exported; and that keeps up the price.

Now if it be a good principle, that the exportation of a commodity is to be restrain'd, that so our own people at home may have it the cheaper, stick to that principle, and go thorough stitch with it. Prohibit the exportation of your cloth, your leather and shoes, your iron ware, and your manufactures of all sorts, to make them all cheaper at home. And cheap enough they will be, I'll warrant you -- till people leave off making them.

Some folks seem to think they ought never to be easy, till England becomes another Lubberland, where 'tis fancied the streets are paved with penny rolls, the houses tiled with pancakes, and chickens ready roasted cry, come eat me.

I say, when you are sure you have got a good principle, stick to it, and carry it thorough. -- I hear 'tis said, that though it was necessary and right for the M ------ y to advise a prohibition of the exportation of corn, yet it was contrary to law: And also, that though it was contrary to law for the mob to obstruct the waggons, yet it was necessary and right. -- Just the same thing, to a tittle. Now they tell me, an act of indemnity ought to pass in favour of the M ------ y, to secure them from the consequences of having acted illegally. -- If so, pass another in favour of the mob. Others say, some of the mob ought to be hanged, by way of example. -- If so, ------ but I say no more than I have said before, when you are sure that you have got a good principle, go thorough with it.

You say, poor labourers cannot afford to buy bread at a high price, unless they had higher wages. -- Possibly. -- But how shall we Farmers be able to afford our labourers higher wages, if you will not allow us to get, when we might have it, a higher price for our corn?

By all I can learn, we should at least have had a guinea a quarter more if the exportation had been allowed. And this money England would have got from foreigners.

But, it seems, we Farmers must take so much less, that the poor may have it so much cheaper.
This operates then as a tax for the maintenance of the poor. -- A very good thing, you will say. But I ask, Why a partial tax? Why laid on us Farmers only? -- If it be a good thing, pray, Messrs. the Public, take your share of it, by indemnifying us a little out of your public treasury. In doing a good thing there is both honour and pleasure; -- you are welcome to your part of both.

For my own part, I am not so well satisfied of the goodness of this thing. I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. -- I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. There is no country in the world where so many provisions are established for them; so many hospitals to receive them when they are sick or lame, founded and maintained by voluntary charities; so many alms-houses for the aged of both sexes, together with a solemn general law made by the rich to subject their estates to a heavy tax for the support of the poor. Under all these obligations, are our poor modest, humble, and thankful; and do they use their best endeavours to maintain themselves, and lighten our shoulders of this burthen? -- On the contrary, I affirm that there is no country in the world in which the poor are more idle, dissolute, drunken, and insolent. The day you passed that act, you took away from before their eyes the greatest of all inducements to industry, frugality, and sobriety, by giving them a dependance on somewhat else than a careful accumulation during youth and health, for support in age or sickness. In short, you offered a premium for the encouragement of idleness, and you should not now wonder that it has had its effect in the increase of poverty. Repeal that law, and you will soon see a change in their manners. St. Monday, and St. Tuesday, will cease to be holidays. SIX days shalt thou labour, though one of the old commandments long treated as out of date, will again be looked upon as a respectable precept; industry will increase, and with it plenty among the lower people; their circumstances will mend, and more will be done for their happiness by inuring them to provide for themselves, than could be done by dividing all your estates among them.

Excuse me, Messrs. the Public, if upon this interesting subject, I put you to the trouble of reading a little of my nonsense. I am sure I have lately read a great deal of yours; and therefore from you (at least from those of you who are writers) I deserve a little indulgence. I am, your's, &c. ARATOR.

The London Chronicle, November 29, 1766
 
One way to get liberals to do something about welfare. Just say if your on welfare you cannot vote. When democrats lose that vote they will turn on them. Just look how they treat black conservatives.
 
Fox News Follows California Beach Bum Living Off Food Stamps For Years - YouTube

Why cant this man WORK. He looks healthy to me , if he can surf he can dig a ditch

This is what we get when our youth being taught by idiot parents and idiot school teachers that you are "owed" whatever it is your desire without sacrifice.

The same entitlement junkies that consider it greed to want to keep as much as you can of what you make, while not considering it greed to demand a piece of what others make.:cuckoo:
 
Fox News Follows California Beach Bum Living Off Food Stamps For Years - YouTube

Why cant this man WORK. He looks healthy to me , if he can surf he can dig a ditch

you may not like this guys chosen field in how he makes his money ... that's fine ... but the facts are that he is working he's is bringing in a income that allow him to use the food stamp system ... your raggin about 13% of the people in the united states who are on food stamps well its just amazes me when 45 % of the money being spent goes to war machines and building up other governments ... I say you need to take a chill pill ...

What is his job again?
 
My Canadian Father in-law sent me this, but it's applicable here too.


A lesson how we handle our affairs about helping others.



The Food Bank Program, administered by Social Welfare Canada, is

actually proud of the fact that "It is distributing the greatest amount of

free meals and food vouchers ever!"



Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by Canada Parks

and Natural Resources, asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the Animals."

Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals will grow

dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.



This ends today's lesson.
 
Fox News Follows California Beach Bum Living Off Food Stamps For Years - YouTube

Why cant this man WORK. He looks healthy to me , if he can surf he can dig a ditch

you may not like this guys chosen field in how he makes his money ... that's fine ... but the facts are that he is working he's is bringing in a income that allow him to use the food stamp system ... your raggin about 13% of the people in the united states who are on food stamps well its just amazes me when 45 % of the money being spent goes to war machines and building up other governments ... I say you need to take a chill pill ...

The largest expense in our fed is entitlement... and yes, the government wastes money in the dept of def and it should be audited.. but food stamps, welfare, etc should be eliminated for any able bodied person able to work..

This guy or anyone else needs to work 2 or 3 jobs to get by, too bad too sad... personal upkeep is a personal responsibility... if you are to a point where you cannot take care of yourself and truly cannot work at all, then it is ok to become a ward of the state.. being taken care of

No, no it shouldnt be removed for people that work. It should be overhauled and looked over for abuse and fraud though. But then the whole government needs this.

Next time you toss a rep comment, know my stance first twat.
 
Does that matter?

What matters is that even at just 10%, personally I think it is higher, almost double that, that's $10.6 Billion dollars a year of fraud.

That's a bunch of money.
All that matters is what wing-nuts feel emotionally. They never even think of checking the facts.

What is SNAP Fraud

The Bush Administration reports, "Due to increased oversight and improvements to program management by USDA, the trafficking rate has fallen significantly over the last two decades, from about 4 cents on the dollar in 1993 to about 1 cent in 2006-08 (most recent data available)."

Just because the Government doesn't consider it Fraud, doesn't mean that it isn't.

Remember, Under President Bush, this guy would have only been eligible for SNAP for 3 months every couple of years. Obama changed that to where he can stay on it as long as he doesn't have a job.
Are you talking about the wavers that Obama approved due to the Bush Depression that have EXPIRED? Wavers like Bush approved in 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006?
 
All that matters is what wing-nuts feel emotionally. They never even think of checking the facts.

What is SNAP Fraud

The Bush Administration reports, "Due to increased oversight and improvements to program management by USDA, the trafficking rate has fallen significantly over the last two decades, from about 4 cents on the dollar in 1993 to about 1 cent in 2006-08 (most recent data available)."

Just because the Government doesn't consider it Fraud, doesn't mean that it isn't.

Remember, Under President Bush, this guy would have only been eligible for SNAP for 3 months every couple of years. Obama changed that to where he can stay on it as long as he doesn't have a job.
Are you talking about the wavers that Obama approved due to the Bush Depression that have EXPIRED? Wavers like Bush approved in 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006?
And you see nothing wrong with what he's doing?
 
Just because the Government doesn't consider it Fraud, doesn't mean that it isn't.

Remember, Under President Bush, this guy would have only been eligible for SNAP for 3 months every couple of years. Obama changed that to where he can stay on it as long as he doesn't have a job.
Are you talking about the wavers that Obama approved due to the Bush Depression that have EXPIRED? Wavers like Bush approved in 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006?
And you see nothing wrong with what he's doing?
The FOX Gossip Channel never gave the reason for his eligibility for the program. For all you know he is in a work program, or mentally unfit for work. If he was defrauding the program, did FOX report him or are they aiding and abetting him?

Able-Bodied Adults Without Dependents (ABAWDs)

The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 (PRWORA) limits the receipt of SNAP benefits to 3 months in a 3-year period for able-bodied adults without dependents (ABAWDs) who are not working, participating in, and complying with the requirements of a work program for 20 hours or more each week, or a workfare program.

Individuals are exempt from this provision if they are:
under 18 or 50 years of age or older, responsible for the care of a child or incapacitated household member, medically certified as physically or mentally unfit for employment, pregnant, or already exempt from the work requirements of the Food Stamp Act.

States may request a waiver of this provision for people in areas with an unemployment rate above 10 percent or for those in an area with insufficient jobs. States also have authority to exempt individuals using the 15% exemption authorized by the Balanced Budget Act.

States frequently assign persons subject to the ABAWD restrictions to their Employment and Training (E&T) Program. While participating in this program, ABAWDs are exempt from the ABAWD restrictions. For information on the E&T program, go to the Employment & Training page.
 
My Canadian Father in-law sent me this, but it's applicable here too.


A lesson how we handle our affairs about helping others.



The Food Bank Program, administered by Social Welfare Canada, is

actually proud of the fact that "It is distributing the greatest amount of

free meals and food vouchers ever!"



Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by Canada Parks

and Natural Resources, asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the Animals."

Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals will grow

dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.



This ends today's lesson.

That means, according to you, that churches do a great disservice to the world by spending billions on charity for the poor,

because the churches are to blame for making millions of people dependent on handouts and rendering them incapable of taking care of themselves.

Good point!!!!!

lol
 
Are you talking about the wavers that Obama approved due to the Bush Depression that have EXPIRED? Wavers like Bush approved in 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006?
And you see nothing wrong with what he's doing?
The FOX Gossip Channel never gave the reason for his eligibility for the program. For all you know he is in a work program, or mentally unfit for work. If he was defrauding the program, did FOX report him or are they aiding and abetting him?

[B Able-Bodied Adults Without Dependents (ABAWDs)[/B]

The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 (PRWORA) limits the receipt of SNAP benefits to 3 months in a 3-year period for able-bodied adults without dependents (ABAWDs) who are not working, participating in, and[B complying with the requirements of a work program for 20 hours or more each week,[/B] or a workfare program.

Individuals are exempt from this provision if they are:
under 18 or 50 years of age or older, responsible for the care of a child or incapacitated household member, medically certified as physically or mentally unfit for employment, pregnant, or already exempt from the work requirements of the Food Stamp Act.

States may request a waiver of this provision for people in areas with an unemployment rate above 10 percent or for those in an area with insufficient jobs. States also have authority to exempt individuals using the 15% exemption authorized by the Balanced Budget Act.

States frequently assign persons subject to the ABAWD restrictions to their[B Employment and Training (E&T) Program. While participating in this program, ABAWDs are exempt from the ABAWD restrictions.[/B] For information on the E&T program, go to the Employment & Training page.

And you see nothing wrong with what he's doing?
 
Are you talking about the wavers that Obama approved due to the Bush Depression that have EXPIRED? Wavers like Bush approved in 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006?
And you see nothing wrong with what he's doing?
The FOX Gossip Channel never gave the reason for his eligibility for the program. For all you know he is in a work program, or mentally unfit for work. If he was defrauding the program, did FOX report him or are they aiding and abetting him?

Able-Bodied Adults Without Dependents (ABAWDs)

The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 (PRWORA) limits the receipt of SNAP benefits to 3 months in a 3-year period for able-bodied adults without dependents (ABAWDs) who are not working, participating in, and complying with the requirements of a work program for 20 hours or more each week, or a workfare program.

Individuals are exempt from this provision if they are:
under 18 or 50 years of age or older, responsible for the care of a child or incapacitated household member, medically certified as physically or mentally unfit for employment, pregnant, or already exempt from the work requirements of the Food Stamp Act.

States may request a waiver of this provision for people in areas with an unemployment rate above 10 percent or for those in an area with insufficient jobs. States also have authority to exempt individuals using the 15% exemption authorized by the Balanced Budget Act.

States frequently assign persons subject to the ABAWD restrictions to their Employment and Training (E&T) Program. While participating in this program, ABAWDs are exempt from the ABAWD restrictions. For information on the E&T program, go to the Employment & Training page.

You really should do some more research..

Examiner Editorial: Food stamp rolls explode after Obama loosens rules | WashingtonExaminer.com

The original 1996 welfare reform law -- signed into law by that noted hater of the poor Bill Clinton -- had included a separate rule encouraging able-bodied adults without dependents to work by limiting the amount of time they could receive food stamps. President Obama suspended that rule when he signed his economic stimulus legislation into law. In some cases, this meant "waiving any policy that restricted the assets a family could obtain," the Journal noted.
 

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