This warm winter we're having

It's hardly just the right in the US, it's the right in a lot of places.

AGW is much more widely accepted in Europe, Asia and Africa (at least among those who are aware of the question), even among the right wing. The political split is predominantly an American development.

Of course. The worst two countries are China and the US, hardly surprising to have read this, two of the most selfish people's the world has given us. I'm sure there are others, perhaps in Africa, but they're not rich enough to care.

However UKIP in the UK are big on being anti- and the BNP (kind of disintegrated and now takes shape in many competing far right parties who hate each other more than they hate blacks, Muslims, liberals, conservatives, and anyone else who thinks they're Nazis) were also very much so.
 
I've been hearing this nonsense about how "global warming" is causing this abnormally warm winter we're having all across the Eastern US right now. So, I'm about to drop some basic climatology on the the unsuspecting. Don't blame me if your political biases get in the way of understanding what I'm about to lay down. Google is your friend. From this point forward, I will not be accommodating the closely held religious beliefs of The Church of Sanders, who believe climate change is linked to global terrorism.

So, let's just put it like this. Two events are playing critical roles (one lesser, the other greater) in the record winter warmth in the Eastern United States right now. None of which have to do with "climate change."

The lesser factor is the monster El Nino event happening currently, the greater factor is what's known as the AO, or the Arctic Oscillation. Namely the AO at the North Pole. The Arctic Oscillation determines basically how far south the polar air from the North Pole will go in the Northern Hemisphere. To see what an AO looks like, see below:

Screen_Shot_2015-12-13_at_9.59.30_AM.png


Now, there's a positive AO phase (or low pressure that circulates counter-clockwise at the North Pole, which as it does so, pulls in and contains most of the Arctic air near and around the pole), and a negative AO phase (where there is high pressure that circulates clockwise at the North Pole, which as it does so, tends to push out and evacuate the cold polar air further south). In short, the AO is what we call a "polar vortex."

Simply put, an abnormally positive phase of the Arctic Oscillation is pulling more cold air northward towards the pole, which does not allow any cold air to amass in the east US and travel south. This is only amplified by the El Nino effect shunting the polar jet stream far to the north, hence no cold air in the eastern portion of the US. These two events are synergizing with one another to intensify the warmth we're feeling now.

Keep in mind that the abnormally intense winter in January 2014 was due to a very strong negative AO phase which pushed the polar vortex even further south than normal and nuked most of the US with snow and abnormally cold temperatures.

I've taken a crash course in Climatology a la Google for the past two and a half hours, and I can't help but chuckle at all the people blaming this on "climate change" or "global warming" when in fact all it is is the simple machinations of weather patterns.

Global Warming Isn’t Really to Blame for This Crazy Warm Weather. So Enjoy It!

Climate Change Plays 'Fairly Insignificant' Role In Current Warm Weather

Global warming? I think not. Merry Christmas!


It's a shame that you weren't there to correct the nearly 200 countries who just decided, as a group that what you say is wrong. I'm sure they would have discounted all the experts that they consulted in favor of the thoughts of some anonymous right wing kid in his mothers basement with no real education other than what he heard from crazy politicians paid for by oil companies.


Oh and where are the commercials, where is the billboards might be?

Only in your mental masturbation mind...


What do commercials or billboards have to do with anything?

Everything, you all want to claim the fossil fuels are pumping gazillions of dollars into a misinformation campaign and insinuating like it was like the tobacco industry so where is the information?

And like I pointed out they sure are not trying to confuse the public in ads or print.

So where do the average Joe get this idea and smell bullshit from?

The AGW cult does it to themselfs.


1947:

International Agency Needed To Stop The Arctic Meltdown

1947 : International Agency Needed To Stop The Arctic Meltdown

and…

Alarming Rise In Arctic Temperatures To Melt Greenland And Flood The Coasts

Alarming Rise In Arctic Temperatures To Melt Greenland And Flood The Coasts

and…

1947 Shock News : “Enormous” “Alarming” “Serious” “Catastrophic” Polar Melt To Drown The Planet. International Agency Needed To Study The Problem

1947 Shock News : "Enormous" "Alarming" "Serious" "Catastrophic" Polar Melt To Drown The Planet. International Agency Needed To Study The Problem

——————–

2007

Over 4.5 Billion people could die from Global Warming-related causes by 2012

http://wattsupwiththat.com/climate-...e-from-global-warming-related-causes-by-2012/

——————–

“Top NASA experts predicted an ice-free Arctic for 2012, and it has happened.”

Ice Free Arctic Update

and…

Gore’s “ice free Arctic” prediction from five years ago, falsified by nature itself

Nature proves Al Gore wrong again

——————–

No Global Warming For Almost Sixteen Years

No Global Warming For Almost Sixteen Years

——————–

Major change in UK Meteorology Office global warming forecast

Major change in UK Met Office global warming forecast

——————–

The Official Forecast of the U.S. Government Never Saw This [2013-14] Winter Coming

The Official Forecast of the U.S. Government Never Saw This Winter Coming - Businessweek

——————–

Top 5 failed ‘snow free’ and ‘ice free’ predictions

Top 5 failed 'snow free' and 'ice free' predictions | The Daily Caller

——————–

1970s Global Cooling Scare

1970s Global Cooling Scare

and…

1974 : Flooding, Drought, Crop Loss And Mild Winters Blamed On Global Cooling

1974 : Flooding, Drought, Crop Loss And Mild Winters Blamed On Global Cooling

and…

Der Spiegel 1974: “Temperatures Over Last 20 Years Have Dropped Faster Than At Anytime In The Last 1000 Years”

Spiegel 1974: “Temperatures Over Last 20 Years Have Dropped Faster Than At Anytime In The Last 1000 Years”

and…

1974 : CIA Enumerated The Devastation Of Global Cooling

1974 : CIA Enumerated The Devastation Of Global Cooling

and…

1975 : Newsweek Explained How Global Cooling Causes Extreme Droughts, Floods, Dry Spells And Heatwaves

http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/...ses-droughts-floods-dry-spells-and-heatwaves/

and…

Factsheet on 1970s Coming ‘Ice Age’ Claims

http://www.climatedepot.com/a/3213/...pots-Factsheet-on-1970s-Coming-Ice-Age-Claims
 
It's hardly just the right in the US, it's the right in a lot of places.

AGW is much more widely accepted in Europe, Asia and Africa (at least among those who are aware of the question), even among the right wing. The political split is predominantly an American development.


Have a link or is it another one from your ass?



Climate change opinion by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


70% of the folks in Afghanistan don't believe in the AGW cult

66% of the folks in Cambodia don't believe in the AGW cult

69% of the folks in Chad don't believe in the AGW cult

51% of the folks in Denmark don't believe in the AGW cult

46% of the folks in Egypt don't believe in the AGW cult

41% of the folks in Germany don't believe in the AGW cult

62% of the folks in Iceland don't believe in the AGW cult

62% of the folks in Iraq don't believe in the AGW cult

53% of the folks in Norway don't believe in the AGW cult

61% of the folks in Saudi Arabia don't believe in the AGW cult

71% of the folks in South Africa don't believe in the AGW cult

82% of the folks in Tanzania don't believe in the AGW cult

52% of the folks in the United Kingdom don't believe in the AGW cult
 
Do you have a source for that information Mr Bear? Something like:
Climate change opinion by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm not going to attempt to reconstruct this table here.
Awareness
Knowing "something" or a "great deal" about global warming when asked "How much do you know about global warming or climate change?"
Caused by human activity
Responding yes when asked, "Temperature rise is part of global warming or climate change. Do you think rising temperatures are [...] a result of human activities?" Note: the other answer option was "a result of natural causes," but respondents were also allowed to indicate "both" (or "no opinion"). People voting "both" are not included in the numbers.
Perceived as threat

Responding that global warming is a serious personal threat.

Country // Awareness // Caused by human activity // Perceived as threat
Afghanistan 25 29 18
Algeria 56 54 46
Angola 43 70 38
Argentina 76 81 71
Armenia 78 28 65
Australia 97 46 75
Austria 95 51 54
Azerbaijan 58 42 43
Bangladesh 33 62 32
Belarus 80 48 30
Belgium 89 50 68
Belize 53 59 45
Benin 21 46 15
Bolivia 55 73 51
Botswana 38 26 30
Brazil 79 80 76
Burkina Faso 36 52 34
Burundi 22 38 20
Cambodia 58 34 51
Cameroon 49 52 32
Canada 95 61 74
Central African Republic 56 58 37
Chad 45 31 38
Chile 73 78 69
China 62 58 21
Colombia 68 77 65
Costa Rica 75 87 72
Czech Republic 87 52 39
Democratic Republic of the Congo 53 52 41
Denmark 90 49 40
Djibouti 43 62 35
Dominican Republic 50 52 46
Ecuador 70 81 69
Egypt 25 60 21
El Salvador 55 75 51
Estonia 88 46 32
Ethiopia 80 56 73
Finland 98 53 39
France 93 63 75
Georgia 62 37 47
Germany 96 59 60
Ghana 26 51 19
Greece 87 84 82
Guatemala 57 72 51
Guinea 55 40 43
Guyana 67 36 56
Haiti 46 38 35
Honduras 62 58 57
Hong Kong 93 78 54
Hungary 93 65 75
Iceland 95 38 33
India 35 53 29
Indonesia 39 55 33
Iran 55 62 43
Iraq 55 38 28
Ireland 94 66 60
Israel 86 63 62
Italy 84 65 76
Japan 99 91 80
Jordan 62 53 51
Kazakhstan 60 54 35
Kenya 56 59 49
Kyrgyzstan 52 42 39
Laos 80 65 49
Latvia 91 54 37
Lebanon 64 64 54
Liberia 15 41 13
Lithuania 91 50 47
Luxembourg 95 60 75
Madagascar 49 67 46
Malaysia 71 63 50
Mali 53 72 48
Malta 75 68 64
Mauritania 44 48 35
Mexico 67 71 63
Moldova 83 48 73
Mongolia 75 54 30
Morocco 30 68 29
Mozambique 54 53 48
Namibia 46 49 35
Nepal 37 48 32
Netherlands 96 44 57
Nicaragua 53 66 49
Niger 24 35 21
Nigeria 28 27 18
Norway 97 47 43
Pakistan 34 25 24
Palestine 67 50 55
Panama 65 73 61
Paraguay 58 79 54
Peru 62 72 58
Philippines 47 72 42
Poland 84 58 54
Portugal 90 79 85
Qatar 64 39 43
Republic of the Congo 41 58 31
Romania 81 60 66
Russia 85 52 39
Rwanda 30 44 22
Saudi Arabia 49 39 40
Senegal 36 27 33
Sierra Leone 36 31 24
Singapore 84 44 59
South Africa 31 29 21
South Korea 93 92 80
Spain 85 71 69
Sri Lanka 73 63 65
Sudan 47 69 42
Sweden 96 64 56
Syria 56 54 41
Taiwan 91 70 70
Tajikistan 43 81 19
Tanzania 53 15 48
Thailand 88 55 61
Togo 29 43 23
Trinidad and Tobago 72 76 71
Tunisia 60 50 46
Turkey 74 70 66
Uganda 35 66 30
Ukraine 79 51 52
United Kingdom 97 48 69
United States 97 49 63
Uruguay 73 75 68
Uzbekistan 53 18 38
Venezuela 63 65 62
Vietnam 73 49 53
Zambia 27 43 18
Zimbabwe 52 41 36

These numbers indicate that you or your source has classified everyone who did not state ONLY caused by human activity as REJECTING human causation. That is obviously incorrect. The IPCC's position is not that warming is ONLY cause by human activity but that human activity is the dominant cause.
 
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Do you have a source for that information Mr Bear? Something like:
Climate change opinion by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm not going to attempt to reconstruct this table here.
Awareness
Knowing "something" or a "great deal" about global warming when asked "How much do you know about global warming or climate change?"
Caused by human activity
Responding yes when asked, "Temperature rise is part of global warming or climate change. Do you think rising temperatures are [...] a result of human activities?" Note: the other answer option was "a result of natural causes," but respondents were also allowed to indicate "both" (or "no opinion"). People voting "both" are not included in the numbers.
Perceived as threat

Responding that global warming is a serious personal threat.

Country // Awareness // Caused by human activity // Perceived as threat
Afghanistan 25 29 18
Algeria 56 54 46
Angola 43 70 38
Argentina 76 81 71
Armenia 78 28 65
Australia 97 46 75
Austria 95 51 54
Azerbaijan 58 42 43
Bangladesh 33 62 32
Belarus 80 48 30
Belgium 89 50 68
Belize 53 59 45
Benin 21 46 15
Bolivia 55 73 51
Botswana 38 26 30
Brazil 79 80 76
Burkina Faso 36 52 34
Burundi 22 38 20
Cambodia 58 34 51
Cameroon 49 52 32
Canada 95 61 74
Central African Republic 56 58 37
Chad 45 31 38
Chile 73 78 69
China 62 58 21
Colombia 68 77 65
Costa Rica 75 87 72
Czech Republic 87 52 39
Democratic Republic of the Congo 53 52 41
Denmark 90 49 40
Djibouti 43 62 35
Dominican Republic 50 52 46
Ecuador 70 81 69
Egypt 25 60 21
El Salvador 55 75 51
Estonia 88 46 32
Ethiopia 80 56 73
Finland 98 53 39
France 93 63 75
Georgia 62 37 47
Germany 96 59 60
Ghana 26 51 19
Greece 87 84 82
Guatemala 57 72 51
Guinea 55 40 43
Guyana 67 36 56
Haiti 46 38 35
Honduras 62 58 57
Hong Kong 93 78 54
Hungary 93 65 75
Iceland 95 38 33
India 35 53 29
Indonesia 39 55 33
Iran 55 62 43
Iraq 55 38 28
Ireland 94 66 60
Israel 86 63 62
Italy 84 65 76
Japan 99 91 80
Jordan 62 53 51
Kazakhstan 60 54 35
Kenya 56 59 49
Kyrgyzstan 52 42 39
Laos 80 65 49
Latvia 91 54 37
Lebanon 64 64 54
Liberia 15 41 13
Lithuania 91 50 47
Luxembourg 95 60 75
Madagascar 49 67 46
Malaysia 71 63 50
Mali 53 72 48
Malta 75 68 64
Mauritania 44 48 35
Mexico 67 71 63
Moldova 83 48 73
Mongolia 75 54 30
Morocco 30 68 29
Mozambique 54 53 48
Namibia 46 49 35
Nepal 37 48 32
Netherlands 96 44 57
Nicaragua 53 66 49
Niger 24 35 21
Nigeria 28 27 18
Norway 97 47 43
Pakistan 34 25 24
Palestine 67 50 55
Panama 65 73 61
Paraguay 58 79 54
Peru 62 72 58
Philippines 47 72 42
Poland 84 58 54
Portugal 90 79 85
Qatar 64 39 43
Republic of the Congo 41 58 31
Romania 81 60 66
Russia 85 52 39
Rwanda 30 44 22
Saudi Arabia 49 39 40
Senegal 36 27 33
Sierra Leone 36 31 24
Singapore 84 44 59
South Africa 31 29 21
South Korea 93 92 80
Spain 85 71 69
Sri Lanka 73 63 65
Sudan 47 69 42
Sweden 96 64 56
Syria 56 54 41
Taiwan 91 70 70
Tajikistan 43 81 19
Tanzania 53 15 48
Thailand 88 55 61
Togo 29 43 23
Trinidad and Tobago 72 76 71
Tunisia 60 50 46
Turkey 74 70 66
Uganda 35 66 30
Ukraine 79 51 52
United Kingdom 97 48 69
United States 97 49 63
Uruguay 73 75 68
Uzbekistan 53 18 38
Venezuela 63 65 62
Vietnam 73 49 53
Zambia 27 43 18
Zimbabwe 52 41 36

These numbers indicate that you or your source has classified everyone who did not state ONLY caused by human activity as REJECTING human causation. That is obviously incorrect. The IPCC's position is not that warming is ONLY cause by human activity but that human activity is the dominant cause.


My source is the same as yours numb nuts ..you do know how to do math correct and not just copy and paste?
 
Do you have a source for that information Mr Bear? Something like:
Climate change opinion by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm not going to attempt to reconstruct this table here.
Awareness
Knowing "something" or a "great deal" about global warming when asked "How much do you know about global warming or climate change?"
Caused by human activity
Responding yes when asked, "Temperature rise is part of global warming or climate change. Do you think rising temperatures are [...] a result of human activities?" Note: the other answer option was "a result of natural causes," but respondents were also allowed to indicate "both" (or "no opinion"). People voting "both" are not included in the numbers.
Perceived as threat

Responding that global warming is a serious personal threat.

Country // Awareness // Caused by human activity // Perceived as threat
Afghanistan 25 29 18
Algeria 56 54 46
Angola 43 70 38
Argentina 76 81 71
Armenia 78 28 65
Australia 97 46 75
Austria 95 51 54
Azerbaijan 58 42 43
Bangladesh 33 62 32
Belarus 80 48 30
Belgium 89 50 68
Belize 53 59 45
Benin 21 46 15
Bolivia 55 73 51
Botswana 38 26 30
Brazil 79 80 76
Burkina Faso 36 52 34
Burundi 22 38 20
Cambodia 58 34 51
Cameroon 49 52 32
Canada 95 61 74
Central African Republic 56 58 37
Chad 45 31 38
Chile 73 78 69
China 62 58 21
Colombia 68 77 65
Costa Rica 75 87 72
Czech Republic 87 52 39
Democratic Republic of the Congo 53 52 41
Denmark 90 49 40
Djibouti 43 62 35
Dominican Republic 50 52 46
Ecuador 70 81 69
Egypt 25 60 21
El Salvador 55 75 51
Estonia 88 46 32
Ethiopia 80 56 73
Finland 98 53 39
France 93 63 75
Georgia 62 37 47
Germany 96 59 60
Ghana 26 51 19
Greece 87 84 82
Guatemala 57 72 51
Guinea 55 40 43
Guyana 67 36 56
Haiti 46 38 35
Honduras 62 58 57
Hong Kong 93 78 54
Hungary 93 65 75
Iceland 95 38 33
India 35 53 29
Indonesia 39 55 33
Iran 55 62 43
Iraq 55 38 28
Ireland 94 66 60
Israel 86 63 62
Italy 84 65 76
Japan 99 91 80
Jordan 62 53 51
Kazakhstan 60 54 35
Kenya 56 59 49
Kyrgyzstan 52 42 39
Laos 80 65 49
Latvia 91 54 37
Lebanon 64 64 54
Liberia 15 41 13
Lithuania 91 50 47
Luxembourg 95 60 75
Madagascar 49 67 46
Malaysia 71 63 50
Mali 53 72 48
Malta 75 68 64
Mauritania 44 48 35
Mexico 67 71 63
Moldova 83 48 73
Mongolia 75 54 30
Morocco 30 68 29
Mozambique 54 53 48
Namibia 46 49 35
Nepal 37 48 32
Netherlands 96 44 57
Nicaragua 53 66 49
Niger 24 35 21
Nigeria 28 27 18
Norway 97 47 43
Pakistan 34 25 24
Palestine 67 50 55
Panama 65 73 61
Paraguay 58 79 54
Peru 62 72 58
Philippines 47 72 42
Poland 84 58 54
Portugal 90 79 85
Qatar 64 39 43
Republic of the Congo 41 58 31
Romania 81 60 66
Russia 85 52 39
Rwanda 30 44 22
Saudi Arabia 49 39 40
Senegal 36 27 33
Sierra Leone 36 31 24
Singapore 84 44 59
South Africa 31 29 21
South Korea 93 92 80
Spain 85 71 69
Sri Lanka 73 63 65
Sudan 47 69 42
Sweden 96 64 56
Syria 56 54 41
Taiwan 91 70 70
Tajikistan 43 81 19
Tanzania 53 15 48
Thailand 88 55 61
Togo 29 43 23
Trinidad and Tobago 72 76 71
Tunisia 60 50 46
Turkey 74 70 66
Uganda 35 66 30
Ukraine 79 51 52
United Kingdom 97 48 69
United States 97 49 63
Uruguay 73 75 68
Uzbekistan 53 18 38
Venezuela 63 65 62
Vietnam 73 49 53
Zambia 27 43 18
Zimbabwe 52 41 36

These numbers indicate that you or your source has classified everyone who did not state ONLY caused by human activity as REJECTING human causation. That is obviously incorrect. The IPCC's position is not that warming is ONLY cause by human activity but that human activity is the dominant cause.

My source is the same as yours numb nuts ..you do know how to do math correct and not just copy and paste?

Then you apparently DON'T understand these data. The people surveyed were asked if they believed the cause of global warming were humans, natural or both. The number reported here is ONLY those who answer humans. It does NOT include those who answered BOTH. Therefore you cannot take the complement of the given number (ie 100-n) as the number of people rejecting AGW. Do you understand?
 
I've been hearing this nonsense about how "global warming" is causing this abnormally warm winter we're having all across the Eastern US right now. So, I'm about to drop some basic climatology on the the unsuspecting. Don't blame me if your political biases get in the way of understanding what I'm about to lay down. Google is your friend. From this point forward, I will not be accommodating the closely held religious beliefs of The Church of Sanders, who believe climate change is linked to global terrorism.

So, let's just put it like this. Two events are playing critical roles (one lesser, the other greater) in the record winter warmth in the Eastern United States right now. None of which have to do with "climate change."

The lesser factor is the monster El Nino event happening currently, the greater factor is what's known as the AO, or the Arctic Oscillation. Namely the AO at the North Pole. The Arctic Oscillation determines basically how far south the polar air from the North Pole will go in the Northern Hemisphere. To see what an AO looks like, see below:

Screen_Shot_2015-12-13_at_9.59.30_AM.png


Now, there's a positive AO phase (or low pressure that circulates counter-clockwise at the North Pole, which as it does so, pulls in and contains most of the Arctic air near and around the pole), and a negative AO phase (where there is high pressure that circulates clockwise at the North Pole, which as it does so, tends to push out and evacuate the cold polar air further south). In short, the AO is what we call a "polar vortex."

Simply put, an abnormally positive phase of the Arctic Oscillation is pulling more cold air northward towards the pole, which does not allow any cold air to amass in the east US and travel south. This is only amplified by the El Nino effect shunting the polar jet stream far to the north, hence no cold air in the eastern portion of the US. These two events are synergizing with one another to intensify the warmth we're feeling now.

Keep in mind that the abnormally intense winter in January 2014 was due to a very strong negative AO phase which pushed the polar vortex even further south than normal and nuked most of the US with snow and abnormally cold temperatures.

I've taken a crash course in Climatology a la Google for the past two and a half hours, and I can't help but chuckle at all the people blaming this on "climate change" or "global warming" when in fact all it is is the simple machinations of weather patterns.

Global Warming Isn’t Really to Blame for This Crazy Warm Weather. So Enjoy It!

Climate Change Plays 'Fairly Insignificant' Role In Current Warm Weather

Global warming? I think not. Merry Christmas!


It's a shame that you weren't there to correct the nearly 200 countries who just decided, as a group that what you say is wrong. I'm sure they would have discounted all the experts that they consulted in favor of the thoughts of some anonymous right wing kid in his mothers basement with no real education other than what he heard from crazy politicians paid for by oil companies.


Oh and where are the commercials, where is the billboards might be?

Only in your mental masturbation mind...


What do commercials or billboards have to do with anything?

Everything, you all want to claim the fossil fuels are pumping gazillions of dollars into a misinformation campaign and insinuating like it was like the tobacco industry so where is the information?

And like I pointed out they sure are not trying to confuse the public in ads or print.

So where do the average Joe get this idea and smell bullshit from?

The AGW cult does it to themselfs.


1947:

International Agency Needed To Stop The Arctic Meltdown

1947 : International Agency Needed To Stop The Arctic Meltdown

and…

Alarming Rise In Arctic Temperatures To Melt Greenland And Flood The Coasts

Alarming Rise In Arctic Temperatures To Melt Greenland And Flood The Coasts

and…

1947 Shock News : “Enormous” “Alarming” “Serious” “Catastrophic” Polar Melt To Drown The Planet. International Agency Needed To Study The Problem

1947 Shock News : "Enormous" "Alarming" "Serious" "Catastrophic" Polar Melt To Drown The Planet. International Agency Needed To Study The Problem

——————–

2007

Over 4.5 Billion people could die from Global Warming-related causes by 2012

http://wattsupwiththat.com/climate-...e-from-global-warming-related-causes-by-2012/

——————–

“Top NASA experts predicted an ice-free Arctic for 2012, and it has happened.”

Ice Free Arctic Update

and…

Gore’s “ice free Arctic” prediction from five years ago, falsified by nature itself

Nature proves Al Gore wrong again

——————–

No Global Warming For Almost Sixteen Years

No Global Warming For Almost Sixteen Years

——————–

Major change in UK Meteorology Office global warming forecast

Major change in UK Met Office global warming forecast

——————–

The Official Forecast of the U.S. Government Never Saw This [2013-14] Winter Coming

The Official Forecast of the U.S. Government Never Saw This Winter Coming - Businessweek

——————–

Top 5 failed ‘snow free’ and ‘ice free’ predictions

Top 5 failed 'snow free' and 'ice free' predictions | The Daily Caller

——————–

1970s Global Cooling Scare

1970s Global Cooling Scare

and…

1974 : Flooding, Drought, Crop Loss And Mild Winters Blamed On Global Cooling

1974 : Flooding, Drought, Crop Loss And Mild Winters Blamed On Global Cooling

and…

Der Spiegel 1974: “Temperatures Over Last 20 Years Have Dropped Faster Than At Anytime In The Last 1000 Years”

Spiegel 1974: “Temperatures Over Last 20 Years Have Dropped Faster Than At Anytime In The Last 1000 Years”

and…

1974 : CIA Enumerated The Devastation Of Global Cooling

1974 : CIA Enumerated The Devastation Of Global Cooling

and…

1975 : Newsweek Explained How Global Cooling Causes Extreme Droughts, Floods, Dry Spells And Heatwaves

1975 : Newsweek Explained How Global Cooling Causes Extreme Droughts, Floods, Dry Spells And Heatwaves

and…

Factsheet on 1970s Coming ‘Ice Age’ Claims

Don't Miss it! Climate Depot's Factsheet on 1970s Coming 'Ice Age' Claims

They are getting all that crap from right wing politicians who are doing the bidding of the oil companies.
 
I've been hearing this nonsense about how "global warming" is causing this abnormally warm winter we're having all across the Eastern US right now. So, I'm about to drop some basic climatology on the the unsuspecting. Don't blame me if your political biases get in the way of understanding what I'm about to lay down. Google is your friend. From this point forward, I will not be accommodating the closely held religious beliefs of The Church of Sanders, who believe climate change is linked to global terrorism.

So, let's just put it like this. Two events are playing critical roles (one lesser, the other greater) in the record winter warmth in the Eastern United States right now. None of which have to do with "climate change."

The lesser factor is the monster El Nino event happening currently, the greater factor is what's known as the AO, or the Arctic Oscillation. Namely the AO at the North Pole. The Arctic Oscillation determines basically how far south the polar air from the North Pole will go in the Northern Hemisphere. To see what an AO looks like, see below:

Screen_Shot_2015-12-13_at_9.59.30_AM.png


Now, there's a positive AO phase (or low pressure that circulates counter-clockwise at the North Pole, which as it does so, pulls in and contains most of the Arctic air near and around the pole), and a negative AO phase (where there is high pressure that circulates clockwise at the North Pole, which as it does so, tends to push out and evacuate the cold polar air further south). In short, the AO is what we call a "polar vortex."

Simply put, an abnormally positive phase of the Arctic Oscillation is pulling more cold air northward towards the pole, which does not allow any cold air to amass in the east US and travel south. This is only amplified by the El Nino effect shunting the polar jet stream far to the north, hence no cold air in the eastern portion of the US. These two events are synergizing with one another to intensify the warmth we're feeling now.

Keep in mind that the abnormally intense winter in January 2014 was due to a very strong negative AO phase which pushed the polar vortex even further south than normal and nuked most of the US with snow and abnormally cold temperatures.

I've taken a crash course in Climatology a la Google for the past two and a half hours, and I can't help but chuckle at all the people blaming this on "climate change" or "global warming" when in fact all it is is the simple machinations of weather patterns.

Global Warming Isn’t Really to Blame for This Crazy Warm Weather. So Enjoy It!

Climate Change Plays 'Fairly Insignificant' Role In Current Warm Weather

Global warming? I think not. Merry Christmas!


It's a shame that you weren't there to correct the nearly 200 countries who just decided, as a group that what you say is wrong. I'm sure they would have discounted all the experts that they consulted in favor of the thoughts of some anonymous right wing kid in his mothers basement with no real education other than what he heard from crazy politicians paid for by oil companies.


Oh and where are the commercials, where is the billboards might be?

Only in your mental masturbation mind...


What do commercials or billboards have to do with anything?

Everything, you all want to claim the fossil fuels are pumping gazillions of dollars into a misinformation campaign and insinuating like it was like the tobacco industry so where is the information?

And like I pointed out they sure are not trying to confuse the public in ads or print.

So where do the average Joe get this idea and smell bullshit from?

The AGW cult does it to themselfs.


1947:

International Agency Needed To Stop The Arctic Meltdown

1947 : International Agency Needed To Stop The Arctic Meltdown

and…

Alarming Rise In Arctic Temperatures To Melt Greenland And Flood The Coasts

Alarming Rise In Arctic Temperatures To Melt Greenland And Flood The Coasts

and…

1947 Shock News : “Enormous” “Alarming” “Serious” “Catastrophic” Polar Melt To Drown The Planet. International Agency Needed To Study The Problem

1947 Shock News : "Enormous" "Alarming" "Serious" "Catastrophic" Polar Melt To Drown The Planet. International Agency Needed To Study The Problem

——————–

2007

Over 4.5 Billion people could die from Global Warming-related causes by 2012

http://wattsupwiththat.com/climate-...e-from-global-warming-related-causes-by-2012/

——————–

“Top NASA experts predicted an ice-free Arctic for 2012, and it has happened.”

Ice Free Arctic Update

and…

Gore’s “ice free Arctic” prediction from five years ago, falsified by nature itself

Nature proves Al Gore wrong again

——————–

No Global Warming For Almost Sixteen Years

No Global Warming For Almost Sixteen Years

——————–

Major change in UK Meteorology Office global warming forecast

Major change in UK Met Office global warming forecast

——————–

The Official Forecast of the U.S. Government Never Saw This [2013-14] Winter Coming

The Official Forecast of the U.S. Government Never Saw This Winter Coming - Businessweek

——————–

Top 5 failed ‘snow free’ and ‘ice free’ predictions

Top 5 failed 'snow free' and 'ice free' predictions | The Daily Caller

——————–

1970s Global Cooling Scare

1970s Global Cooling Scare

and…

1974 : Flooding, Drought, Crop Loss And Mild Winters Blamed On Global Cooling

1974 : Flooding, Drought, Crop Loss And Mild Winters Blamed On Global Cooling

and…

Der Spiegel 1974: “Temperatures Over Last 20 Years Have Dropped Faster Than At Anytime In The Last 1000 Years”

Spiegel 1974: “Temperatures Over Last 20 Years Have Dropped Faster Than At Anytime In The Last 1000 Years”

and…

1974 : CIA Enumerated The Devastation Of Global Cooling

1974 : CIA Enumerated The Devastation Of Global Cooling

and…

1975 : Newsweek Explained How Global Cooling Causes Extreme Droughts, Floods, Dry Spells And Heatwaves

1975 : Newsweek Explained How Global Cooling Causes Extreme Droughts, Floods, Dry Spells And Heatwaves

and…

Factsheet on 1970s Coming ‘Ice Age’ Claims

Don't Miss it! Climate Depot's Factsheet on 1970s Coming 'Ice Age' Claims

They are getting all that crap from right wing politicians who are doing the bidding of the oil companies.


So how are they getting it by mental telepathy?
 
It's a shame that you weren't there to correct the nearly 200 countries who just decided, as a group that what you say is wrong. I'm sure they would have discounted all the experts that they consulted in favor of the thoughts of some anonymous right wing kid in his mothers basement with no real education other than what he heard from crazy politicians paid for by oil companies.


Oh and where are the commercials, where is the billboards might be?

Only in your mental masturbation mind...


What do commercials or billboards have to do with anything?

Everything, you all want to claim the fossil fuels are pumping gazillions of dollars into a misinformation campaign and insinuating like it was like the tobacco industry so where is the information?

And like I pointed out they sure are not trying to confuse the public in ads or print.

So where do the average Joe get this idea and smell bullshit from?

The AGW cult does it to themselfs.


1947:

International Agency Needed To Stop The Arctic Meltdown

1947 : International Agency Needed To Stop The Arctic Meltdown

and…

Alarming Rise In Arctic Temperatures To Melt Greenland And Flood The Coasts

Alarming Rise In Arctic Temperatures To Melt Greenland And Flood The Coasts

and…

1947 Shock News : “Enormous” “Alarming” “Serious” “Catastrophic” Polar Melt To Drown The Planet. International Agency Needed To Study The Problem

1947 Shock News : "Enormous" "Alarming" "Serious" "Catastrophic" Polar Melt To Drown The Planet. International Agency Needed To Study The Problem

——————–

2007

Over 4.5 Billion people could die from Global Warming-related causes by 2012

http://wattsupwiththat.com/climate-...e-from-global-warming-related-causes-by-2012/

——————–

“Top NASA experts predicted an ice-free Arctic for 2012, and it has happened.”

Ice Free Arctic Update

and…

Gore’s “ice free Arctic” prediction from five years ago, falsified by nature itself

Nature proves Al Gore wrong again

——————–

No Global Warming For Almost Sixteen Years

No Global Warming For Almost Sixteen Years

——————–

Major change in UK Meteorology Office global warming forecast

Major change in UK Met Office global warming forecast

——————–

The Official Forecast of the U.S. Government Never Saw This [2013-14] Winter Coming

The Official Forecast of the U.S. Government Never Saw This Winter Coming - Businessweek

——————–

Top 5 failed ‘snow free’ and ‘ice free’ predictions

Top 5 failed 'snow free' and 'ice free' predictions | The Daily Caller

——————–

1970s Global Cooling Scare

1970s Global Cooling Scare

and…

1974 : Flooding, Drought, Crop Loss And Mild Winters Blamed On Global Cooling

1974 : Flooding, Drought, Crop Loss And Mild Winters Blamed On Global Cooling

and…

Der Spiegel 1974: “Temperatures Over Last 20 Years Have Dropped Faster Than At Anytime In The Last 1000 Years”

Spiegel 1974: “Temperatures Over Last 20 Years Have Dropped Faster Than At Anytime In The Last 1000 Years”

and…

1974 : CIA Enumerated The Devastation Of Global Cooling

1974 : CIA Enumerated The Devastation Of Global Cooling

and…

1975 : Newsweek Explained How Global Cooling Causes Extreme Droughts, Floods, Dry Spells And Heatwaves

1975 : Newsweek Explained How Global Cooling Causes Extreme Droughts, Floods, Dry Spells And Heatwaves

and…

Factsheet on 1970s Coming ‘Ice Age’ Claims

Don't Miss it! Climate Depot's Factsheet on 1970s Coming 'Ice Age' Claims

They are getting all that crap from right wing politicians who are doing the bidding of the oil companies.


So how are they getting it by mental telepathy?


Nope.Mostly from right wing radio and idiots like you.
 
Oh and where are the commercials, where is the billboards might be?

Only in your mental masturbation mind...


What do commercials or billboards have to do with anything?

Everything, you all want to claim the fossil fuels are pumping gazillions of dollars into a misinformation campaign and insinuating like it was like the tobacco industry so where is the information?

And like I pointed out they sure are not trying to confuse the public in ads or print.

So where do the average Joe get this idea and smell bullshit from?

The AGW cult does it to themselfs.


1947:

International Agency Needed To Stop The Arctic Meltdown

1947 : International Agency Needed To Stop The Arctic Meltdown

and…

Alarming Rise In Arctic Temperatures To Melt Greenland And Flood The Coasts

Alarming Rise In Arctic Temperatures To Melt Greenland And Flood The Coasts

and…

1947 Shock News : “Enormous” “Alarming” “Serious” “Catastrophic” Polar Melt To Drown The Planet. International Agency Needed To Study The Problem

1947 Shock News : "Enormous" "Alarming" "Serious" "Catastrophic" Polar Melt To Drown The Planet. International Agency Needed To Study The Problem

——————–

2007

Over 4.5 Billion people could die from Global Warming-related causes by 2012

http://wattsupwiththat.com/climate-...e-from-global-warming-related-causes-by-2012/

——————–

“Top NASA experts predicted an ice-free Arctic for 2012, and it has happened.”

Ice Free Arctic Update

and…

Gore’s “ice free Arctic” prediction from five years ago, falsified by nature itself

Nature proves Al Gore wrong again

——————–

No Global Warming For Almost Sixteen Years

No Global Warming For Almost Sixteen Years

——————–

Major change in UK Meteorology Office global warming forecast

Major change in UK Met Office global warming forecast

——————–

The Official Forecast of the U.S. Government Never Saw This [2013-14] Winter Coming

The Official Forecast of the U.S. Government Never Saw This Winter Coming - Businessweek

——————–

Top 5 failed ‘snow free’ and ‘ice free’ predictions

Top 5 failed 'snow free' and 'ice free' predictions | The Daily Caller

——————–

1970s Global Cooling Scare

1970s Global Cooling Scare

and…

1974 : Flooding, Drought, Crop Loss And Mild Winters Blamed On Global Cooling

1974 : Flooding, Drought, Crop Loss And Mild Winters Blamed On Global Cooling

and…

Der Spiegel 1974: “Temperatures Over Last 20 Years Have Dropped Faster Than At Anytime In The Last 1000 Years”

Spiegel 1974: “Temperatures Over Last 20 Years Have Dropped Faster Than At Anytime In The Last 1000 Years”

and…

1974 : CIA Enumerated The Devastation Of Global Cooling

1974 : CIA Enumerated The Devastation Of Global Cooling

and…

1975 : Newsweek Explained How Global Cooling Causes Extreme Droughts, Floods, Dry Spells And Heatwaves

1975 : Newsweek Explained How Global Cooling Causes Extreme Droughts, Floods, Dry Spells And Heatwaves

and…

Factsheet on 1970s Coming ‘Ice Age’ Claims

Don't Miss it! Climate Depot's Factsheet on 1970s Coming 'Ice Age' Claims

They are getting all that crap from right wing politicians who are doing the bidding of the oil companies.


So how are they getting it by mental telepathy?


Nope.Mostly from right wing radio and idiots like you.

Wow right wing radio has 40 million or so listeners?

Nope pal I kind of think George Orwell was correct by dupes like you.
 
:spinner::spinner:1955:spinner::spinner:


It Was a Warm Christmas in 1955, Too


The AGW k00ks want you to think that this warming stuff started a couple of decades ago......they never want you looking at the history!!:2up: That fires and floods are a new phenomenon in the world!!


ghey:gay:

No they don't.

The point people are making is that things are changing, things are getting warmer GLOBALLY, yes, warm winters happened before, but warm winters are becoming for frequent, it's called CHANGE.
 
Here is the problem for you, Mr. Flacaltenn. You stated no more than one degree for a doubling of CO2. That would be 560 ppm. Yet here we are, at just over 400 ppm, and we are going to hit a one degree increase this year. And, likely, next year, also. So, what happened?

Told you that a dozen times my pal. NOT ALL of the warming blip is CO2 driven. That would be preposterous to assume. So if 60% is driven by man's "emissions" including the bogus accounting for cow farts -- then we're right on track --- aren't we?
 
It's hardly just the right in the US, it's the right in a lot of places.

AGW is much more widely accepted in Europe, Asia and Africa (at least among those who are aware of the question), even among the right wing. The political split is predominantly an American development.

Of course. The worst two countries are China and the US, hardly surprising to have read this, two of the most selfish people's the world has given us. I'm sure there are others, perhaps in Africa, but they're not rich enough to care.

However UKIP in the UK are big on being anti- and the BNP (kind of disintegrated and now takes shape in many competing far right parties who hate each other more than they hate blacks, Muslims, liberals, conservatives, and anyone else who thinks they're Nazis) were also very much so.


Lots' of fingers being pointed here -- because no one wants to pay up for as you say "being the worst".. But as usual -- "being the worst" is a fractured statistic.. Having the "most CO2 emissions" is maybe not the fairest measure of what's allowed by silly treaties or reimbursement or blame..

Maybe the FAIRER way of looking at it is by PER CAPITA emissions... And that might be a true eye opener for you.. Take a look at the chart on this page and see who the CO2 pigs are...

List of countries by carbon dioxide emissions per capita - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

At any rate -- CO2 emissions don't have much if anything to do with the current weather pattern over the US. It just gives the folks in El Paso a very snowy "Sun Bowl" for the fans..
 
Depends on where you live within the US. Here in the Southwest we are "freezing" our butts off with this frigid 50 degree weather (Waaaaa!) Global warming? We don't even have a consistent pattern across the lower 48.
 
I've been hearing this nonsense about how "global warming" is causing this abnormally warm winter we're having all across the Eastern US right now. So, I'm about to drop some basic climatology on the the unsuspecting. Don't blame me if your political biases get in the way of understanding what I'm about to lay down. Google is your friend. From this point forward, I will not be accommodating the closely held religious beliefs of The Church of Sanders, who believe climate change is linked to global terrorism.

So, let's just put it like this. Two events are playing critical roles (one lesser, the other greater) in the record winter warmth in the Eastern United States right now. None of which have to do with "climate change."

The lesser factor is the monster El Nino event happening currently, the greater factor is what's known as the AO, or the Arctic Oscillation. Namely the AO at the North Pole. The Arctic Oscillation determines basically how far south the polar air from the North Pole will go in the Northern Hemisphere. To see what an AO looks like, see below:

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Now, there's a positive AO phase (or low pressure that circulates counter-clockwise at the North Pole, which as it does so, pulls in and contains most of the Arctic air near and around the pole), and a negative AO phase (where there is high pressure that circulates clockwise at the North Pole, which as it does so, tends to push out and evacuate the cold polar air further south). In short, the AO is what we call a "polar vortex."

Simply put, an abnormally positive phase of the Arctic Oscillation is pulling more cold air northward towards the pole, which does not allow any cold air to amass in the east US and travel south. This is only amplified by the El Nino effect shunting the polar jet stream far to the north, hence no cold air in the eastern portion of the US. These two events are synergizing with one another to intensify the warmth we're feeling now.

Keep in mind that the abnormally intense winter in January 2014 was due to a very strong negative AO phase which pushed the polar vortex even further south than normal and nuked most of the US with snow and abnormally cold temperatures.

I've taken a crash course in Climatology a la Google for the past two and a half hours, and I can't help but chuckle at all the people blaming this on "climate change" or "global warming" when in fact all it is is the simple machinations of weather patterns.

Global Warming Isn’t Really to Blame for This Crazy Warm Weather. So Enjoy It!

Climate Change Plays 'Fairly Insignificant' Role In Current Warm Weather

Global warming? I think not. Merry Christmas!

The lobes you see in the negative phase of the AO are called Rossby Waves. Rossby waves develop when the temperature difference between the equator and the poles is reduced. I'm sure you've heard that the Arctic has warmed more than the rest of the planet. That has reduced the difference and that is what is creating Rossby waves. So, yes, the cold weather dropping into the US midwest and abnormally hot weather driving up into Alaska and the US northwest, is a result of global warming.
 

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