Treason At Pearl Harbor.

[goodluck]

Wrong DUMBASS
It is hisgtory written by the naxzis who'se records are cited by the victors.

Which proves you are a liar and fool who cannot cite evidence

What is it you don't get. Telling the other side of the story JUST ISN'T ALLOWED! Do you know why? Because if I were allowed to do so, you and a room full of Nobel Laureates couldn't argue against the facts. Somehow Sunni Man can speak of such things. I don't know how he gets away with it. Maybe because he is a contributor. Or maybe it is because he is a Sunni man. All I know is that I wouldn't be allowed to do so. So, you are too brainwashed to talk to. You have "drank the Kool Aid." Again, do me a favor and stop replying to me.

 

[goodluck]

There was no national intelligence agency at the time. It wasn't treason but it was a complicated plan based on a faulty racist opinion of the Japanese war machine. American congress people were no different from the prevailing opinion of the Japanese that they were incapable of producing a plane or a ship that could carry them. Smart Military experts suggested that FDR move his naval base to the mainland but he refused.

All bullshit from beginning to end. Believe all the lies you want. But please don't repeat them in a thread of mine. Start one of your own on the topic.

 

[westwall]

There is a big differnce between range and radius. Radius is fuel to get there, back, have useful search time and an emergency reserve of at least thirty minutes of fuel. At best combat radius was about one third of listed range, usually it was limited to one quarter. ASW patrols were rarely, if ever, escorted.

No, combat radius was based on current intel. If you had good intel you could go further afield. Also navigational skills were important. If you had a great navigator you could go further afield. At Midway the scout aircraft flew over 700 miles on their standing patrols.

 

[goodluck]

FDR desperately needed the USA to join WWII because unemployment averaged 25% until Hitler conquered France.

Wilson and FDR would both be down in Dante's 9th Circle

That's one reason. And though I have only heard about it, another thing tells the real story is something called "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion." I also have a video that tells the real story. Though I don't agree with everything in it, I mostly do. It is a video called, "How a Jew became a Nazi." Watch it and enjoy.


how-a-jew-became-a-nazi - 100FREE Best Video Sharing

 

[Unkotare]

What is it you don't get. Telling the other side of the story JUST ISN'T ALLOWED! Do you know why? Because if I were allowed to do so, you and a room full of Nobel Laureates couldn't argue against the facts. ....

Oh, you're so important! You're secretly smarter than everyone else!

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Oh, you're so important! You're secretly smarter than everyone else!

bug off you lying piece of garbage, disagreeing with published documented facts is all you got. You and that poster you are attacking are the same.

 

[otto105]

FDR desperately needed the USA to join WWII because unemployment averaged 25% until Hitler conquered France.

Wilson and FDR would both be down in Dante's 9th Circle

FDR wanted to defend our allies against fascism.

 

[AZrailwhale]

No, combat radius was based on current intel. If you had good intel you could go further afield. Also navigational skills were important. If you had a great navigator you could go further afield. At Midway the scout aircraft flew over 700 miles on their standing patrols.

Yeah, PBYs and B-17s. No single engine aircraft at Midway had that radius. The Aichi E-13A Jake had a 1200 mile ONE WAY range, at Midway they spotted the Americans at 175 miles nearly at the end of its outbound search leg.

 

[westwall]

Yeah, PBYs and B-17s. No single engine aircraft at Midway had that radius. The Aichi E-13A Jake had a 1200 mile ONE WAY range, at Midway they spotted the Americans at 175 miles nearly at the end of its outbound search leg.

Yeah, they searched in a triangle to cover as much water as possible. 200 out, 200 across, and 200 back.

But that was based on pilot endurance. They could have gone 300-300-300 and still had 300 miles in reserve.

 

[Soupnazi630]

What is it you don't get. Telling the other side of the story JUST ISN'T ALLOWED! Do you know why? Because if I were allowed to do so, you and a room full of Nobel Laureates couldn't argue against the facts. Somehow Sunni Man can speak of such things. I don't know how he gets away with it. Maybe because he is a contributor. Or maybe it is because he is a Sunni man. All I know is that I wouldn't be allowed to do so. So, you are too brainwashed to talk to. You have "drank the Kool Aid." Again, do me a favor and stop replying to me.

You are not telling the other side of THE story you are telling an imaginary story.

You are allowed to psot conspiracy theories and lies all day long but you are not allowed to demand that others fall in line and belive the BULLSHIT you post.

You need to learn the difference between facts and lies you little fool . You are Not posting facts or evidence.


I will do no such ting I willl be in your facve and correcting you endlessly

I know you hate it but that is how it it you get no relief

 

[Soupnazi630]

All bullshit from beginning to end. Believe all the lies you want. But please don't repeat them in a thread of mine. Start one of your own on the topic.

He stated no lies.

YOU DO

This is not your thread BITCH

 

[Soupnazi630]

See post #199.

Still no fucking evidence and YOU ARE A LIAR

 

[Soupnazi630]

Yeah, no evidence. Except for the names, dates, places, documents, a conclusion reached by a Navy Court of Inquiry and the Army Pearl Harbor Board in 1944, a statement by one cryptographer and the recollection of the widow of another, etc. How about you quit wasting my time and stop replying to me.

No evidence

There was no such court which proves FDR had specific knowledge and none was referenced in that link

You are a childish lia BOY there is no document proving it either

 

[Stryder50]

Should be noted that six of the eight battleships sunk or heavy damaged in the attack would be raised, repaired, and back in service long before the war's end. In fact they would be rebuilt in better and more modern form, especially with more and improved anti-aircraft guns and radar.

As for the USN aircraft carriers; out of the seven in the Navy at the time, three were with the Pacific fleet, two near Hawaii and a third in San Diego. This article isn't very long, but informative.

How the Navy's most important ships avoided destruction at Pearl Harbor​

How the Navy's most important ships avoided destruction at Pearl Harbor

The attack on Pearl Harbor was a massive blow to the US Navy, destroying planes, sinking ships, and killing sailors. But not all was lost.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Stryder50]

You know nothing if you believe that. Yes, because CVEs traveled with the convoys, air cover was possible over the entire ocean. You agree with me.

I think you mean "air cover was possible where the CVEs were. There were never enough to cover the "ENTIRE OCEAN". Look closely at a map or globe.

 

[Stryder50]

FDR moved the Pacific Fleet from San Diego to Pearl to intimidate the Japanese. All it did was to move the Pacific Fleet into a place that the Japanese could just barely reach. It still took nearly every modern tanker that Japan had to carry enough fuel to get the KidobButai into range of Pearl and back to Japan.

Purpose of moving the Fleet to Pearl Harbor wasn't to help the Japanese attack it, rather it was to have it closer to where the war was expected to start and be able to move there sooner.
Expectations was the war would start in the Philippines and Western Pacific

 

[AZrailwhale]

Yeah, they searched in a triangle to cover as much water as possible. 200 out, 200 across, and 200 back.

But that was based on pilot endurance. They could have gone 300-300-300 and still had 300 miles in reserve.

No they didn't they searched a slice of a pie. The Japanese search arc was less than ninety degrees. Nagumo launched SEVEN search aircraft, 2 B5Ns (range 608 miles) 4 E-13As (range 1200 miles) and one E-8N (range 558 miles). Here is the actual Japanese search plan:
"the attack on the 5th. There will be seven search lines: #1, 181 degrees, Akagi; #2, 158 degrees, Kaga; #3, 123 degrees; #4, 100 degrees; #5, 77 degrees; #6, 54 degrees; all four to be carried out by planes of CruDiv 8. Search distance, 300 miles and 60 miles to the left. #7, to bear 31 degrees, distance 150 miles and 40 miles to left. " The individual slices of the pie were between 40 and sixty miles wide. Doing the math that meant the entire search arc OF ALL SIX AIRCRAFT was only three hundred miles wide at most, NOT the 1200 miles your post states.

 

[westwall]

No they didn't they searched a slice of a pie. The Japanese search arc was less than ninety degrees. Nagumo launched SEVEN search aircraft, 2 B5Ns (range 608 miles) 4 E-13As (range 1200 miles) and one E-8N (range 558 miles). Here is the actual Japanese search plan:
"the attack on the 5th. There will be seven search lines: #1, 181 degrees, Akagi; #2, 158 degrees, Kaga; #3, 123 degrees; #4, 100 degrees; #5, 77 degrees; #6, 54 degrees; all four to be carried out by planes of CruDiv 8. Search distance, 300 miles and 60 miles to the left. #7, to bear 31 degrees, distance 150 miles and 40 miles to left. "

What shape do you think a slice of pie is?

Did you even bother to think about your post?

 

[San Souci]

The big problem with history written by the victors is that everything else, such as the truth, becomes a "conspiracy theory." But the truth of the matter is that FDR knew well in advance when the Japanese were going to attack Pearl Harbor. Making all of the servicemen who died in the attack suckers. If I were a ghost of any of those killed there, I wouldn't have the least interest in any "honor" you may pay me and the others who died. I would be more interested in JUSTICE! Such as by having the real story come out. I will show you a number of websites that show that FDR knew well in advance what the Japanese were planning on doing and when. The first two bring up what cryptographers themselves had to say. This first one is from a letter written by somebody named Lietwiler to Parke. The really telling part of it is it speaking of the Japanese naval code. It says, "By November 16, 1941 (Manila time) Lietweiler informed Parke that he was "reading enough current traffic to keep two translators very busy." Here is the website.

Pearl Harbor Document: Letter from Leitweiler to Parke | Robert B. Stinnett

Pearl Harbor Document: Letter from Leitweiler to Parke: The...​

Obviously, it was in FDR's best interest to keep this information as secret as possible. And it is still being kept secret. For any cryptographers back then, it was in their best interest to shut up about the matter. In this next website it speaks of another cryptographer named William Friedman. Though what he had to say came from what his wife had to say on the matter. Probably after his death. I would assume it is what happened when they both heard about the 'surprise" attack on Pearl Harbor. He paced back and forth in their home and muttered to himself repeatedly, "But they knew, they knew, they knew." Here is the website that speaks of it and other matters.


https://covertactionmagazine.com/20...dence-demonstrating-government-foreknowledge/

Eighty Years of Lies: President... - CovertAction Magazine​

This next website posts a quote that was stated by an army board of inquiry in 1944. It says, "...everything that the Japanese were planning to do was known to the United States..." Here is the website.

Pearl Harbor - Mother of All Conspiracies

Pearl Harbor - Mother of All Conspiracies​

Here is another website for you on the matter.

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/the-state/pearl-harbor-81st-anniversary

81 Years After Pearl Harbor, We... - The Free Thought Project​

Pearl Harbor Document: Letter from Leitweiler to Parke | Robert B. Stinnett​

FDR was a goddam Commie.

 

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